I have a theory, having done an ash Williams cosplay I can say how much of a pain in the ass the sawed off and sheath can be so it could have been made longer to allow for Cambell to reach since he’d be doing a lot more sheathing and unsheathing.
In Illinois it’s 18 inches. I have 2 coach guns, but they have the higher priced nickel coat finish. I met Bruce in 2020, it was the best night of my life.
The Stoeger is also shorter than the shotgun at the start of ED2 so it’s likely that they just figured no causal fan would notice, because it’s still not a long shotgun
Brett’s Groovy chainsaws yeah I mean they change details about things all the time... like how come the cabin is there in Ash Vs Evil Dead if it was destroyed in Evil Dead 2? How come the cellar door hasn’t been sawed in half? How come Linda has like 4 different faces? It’s all very confusing when you pick at it... best to just not worry about it
I recently bought a Stoeger Coach gun because of Army of Darkness. One of my favorite movies of all time. In case nobody knew, they are made by Boito and known as the A680. Parts are more easily available if you search Boito. I took it to the range for the local gun club skeet shoot. I'm in no way an expert marksman at skeet. This was only my second time. Anyways, I ended up being tied for first with 2 other people. The guy next to me gave me a compliment, said he'd never seen anyone shoot skeet, with a coach gun as good as me. I told him I guess I'll be using it for now on. The time before I used a bullpup and I did terrible.
And to go with what you was talking about regarding sawing off shotguns, a buddy of mine did it to a 20 gauge. He got busted for something completely unrelated. Probably would have only got a year for what he originally got in trouble for. But once they found he sawed off the 20 gauge down to the furniture, he got almost 10 years for it. In the feds.
sucks that we dont fight the tyranny physically like the second amendment intends which is all that will actually stop them from enforcing it as if its a real law anyway and like theyve been doing for over a century now because of it
@@judsongaiden9878they for sure arent the "laws" are to control those that will follow them without resistance and it makes it where they cant resist tyranny even if they wanted to because theyll be disarmed and the government and other criminals/bad people wont be because they dont follow those so called "laws" or even real laws like murder and the corrupt government knows this and dont care in fact they want them to have weapons easily as an "excuse" to "ban" all weapons to their stupid followers
Fact. They're also both hammerless boxlocks, but most side-by-sides are. They have completely different forearms. The ED2 gun is a ye olde Stevens 311. You don't see those anymore.
I imagine a movie bank-rolled by Universal with a budget equal to $20Mil in today's money could've gotten through the paperwork and red tape pretty easy, especially when the gun had the practical and reasonable purpose of being a movie prop.
Channel123 well California has very harsh gun laws. So it’s hard to tell what is considered legal. New York for instance is very hard to get a handgun license now. It takes up to a year to get. But the truth, we may never know why the gun became a coach gun
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 Sam Raimi, regardless of what budget he's working with, is a "big picture" thinker who's a guerrilla filmmaker at heart, so he uses whatever resources are available to him. Can't get a Stevens 311? An IGA/Stoeger Coach Gun is close enough. Only genuine-article gun-nutters (like muhself) would notice the difference. They're both hammerless boxlocks. The Stoeger has a beefier forearm. Beavertail forearms are the best on a side-by-side. Splinter forearms suck.
No less than 18 Inch barrel No less than 26 for the whole You measure by inserting a tape measure down the barrel To a closed action. This is the true way to measure a barrel.
Ash uses a different gun in each movie. In TED, it's a generic single-shot 20-gauge, possibly a Harrington & Richardson. In ED2, he uses a Stevens 311 with 28" barrels that he trims down to about 12". In AoD, it's what you pointed out, an IGA/Stoeger Coach Gun with 20" barrels. The Gun Control Act of 1934 is the reason we have to go through red tape to legally own proper short-barrel shotguns, requiring paperwork and a transfer tax, all of which is unconstitutional. Same for guns that have full-auto or burst-fire modes. 2:28 Ackchyually, it's 18". The extra half inch is just to factor out any margin of error to our system being overly litigious and repressive. Aside from an 18" barrel length limit, it also has to be at least 26" in overall length. I always chortle to myself whenever I hear people claim that "laws" are based on morality. "Laws" made by the weak will be abolished by the strong. 3:03 Where are you getting that information? Shotguns can maim, sure, but they're made to kill.
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10 gauge would nock your shoulder out of socket! I own this same coach. Nice! I got the same 20 gauge from ED as well. I didn't modify mine like Don did! The one I got from Joey Bourg is light as a feather 🪶! He used good magnets 🧲 in her. She spins smooth! I noticed the barrel length after a few comparisons. I'm glad i went short and sexy from Joey Bourg. If you need a 💥 boomstick.
Not if you use proper technique. Scott from Kentucky Ballistics has a 10-gauge, but he also has a 4-gauge, and he's able to handle those just fine. Of course, he's built like a Terminator, so that helps. I wonder if he's ever shot a Fat-Mac in .950 JDJ. He can handle a 4-gauge, so he could handle a .950 just fine.
On evil dead two he used a Stevens 311. Different shotgun. In Army of Darkness and Ash Vs the Evil Dead he Used a Stoeger IGA coach. I mean, theres another hole in the story. It shows him taking his sawed off 311 through the portal. It does not make any sense. Its like the continuitey between Evil Dead 1 and 2, just dont think about it too much.
The Ash Vs. Evil Dead one most likely isn't a Stoeger despite what IMFDB says. They just use a Stoeger as a generic example. Stoeger doesn't put "splinter" forearms on any of their side-by-sides (by all means correct me if I'm wrong). All of theirs have the beefier and more favorable "beavertail" style of forearm. All the double-barrel shotguns that Ash uses are side-by-side hammerless boxlocks with double triggers.
@@judsongaiden9878 I'll be damned. Imfdb is crap with break action shotguns. I looked at it more and I'm thinking they went back to the Stevens 311. I also found one of the rubber props that was auctioned and it is definitely not modeled after a Stoeger. So we have the Winchester 37A > Stevens 311 > Stoeger IGA Coach then the Stevens 311 again? That's my bet for now.
Can you fire both barrels at once? I've been buying up guns from the movies lately. So far I got almost all of the Terminator guns with the exception of the Vulcan minigun and grenade launcher. (Obviously).I have m60 rambo had. I also have the four screw 8 3/4 inch barrel 44 magnum from dirty Harry. I plan on getting a double barrel Remington with a walnut stock because I was a fan of the evil Dead franchise
Any double-barrel with double triggers can fire a Do0m 2-style double-shot. Just be careful doing it because it's not pleasant (speaking from experience here). Most side-by-sides are hammerless boxlocks with double triggers and extractors. Fancier models might have ejectors. Believe it or not, a single selective trigger is considered favorable since most shotgun sportspersons try NOT to fire double-shots. Remington hasn't made a side-by-side for generations, but they do make over/unders. Expect to pay through the nose, though. Not sure why, but fancy-pants double-barrels often cost a lot more than pump-actions even if they're the same brand. As simple as pump-action shotguns are, break-open guns are even simpler. Maybe you're paying for both the name and the taste of tradition...or something. Anyway, none of the shotguns Ash uses are made by Remington. Not sure who wrote that line, but the blatant falseness of it resulted in a joke in 'My Name Is Bruce' where he refers to a .45 long-slide as a ".31 longbow." It's the same make and model of .45 long-slide that Arnie used in 'The Terminator', an AMT Hardballer.
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 I think I have to agree with the other guy. Bruce does that spin, but they could’ve modified the gun triggers to get more space for his fingers for the twirl. It’s production they could’ve done so much to make that shotgun more comfortable. I mean it’s a movie production
I’m not 100% sure. Stoeger makes the exact same model that was used, but there is a possibility it may have been a Remington. Even though I’ve never seen a model that matches the one used. So as I know so far it’s most likely a stoeger
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 also, didn't said in the comentary, he could have sawed off the barrel himself so he could have a quicker draw, because mobility wouldn't come into question when you have a chainsaw hand.
@@freezer6682 not sure, maybe easier to conceal. It really makes no sense though considering you can buy a shorter pump action shotgun with a pistol grip in some states
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 if I had to guess, he probably fetched it off a horse off screen. My gf asked the same thing and that's all I could come up with
In Illinois it’s 18 inches. I have 2 coach guns, but they have the higher priced nickel coat finish. I met Bruce in 2020, it was the best night of my life.
Because he shopped Smart, he shopped S-Mart.
*HE GOT THAT!?*
that's S-mart quality. a gun built so well that the barrel grew back
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I have a theory, having done an ash Williams cosplay I can say how much of a pain in the ass the sawed off and sheath can be so it could have been made longer to allow for Cambell to reach since he’d be doing a lot more sheathing and unsheathing.
Casey Jones actually the one he sheaths is a shorter foam or rubber boomstick
Well..............shit.
I'm glad I live in Tennessee, I may get this and go through the hoops to legally cut the barrel.
What if I told you it’s bigger because Sam Raimi didn’t concern himself with continuity in the Evil Dead films?
That's exactly why 🤣😂👏👏👏
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In Illinois it’s 18 inches. I have 2 coach guns, but they have the higher priced nickel coat finish. I met Bruce in 2020, it was the best night of my life.
The Stoeger is also shorter than the shotgun at the start of ED2 so it’s likely that they just figured no causal fan would notice, because it’s still not a long shotgun
Numbskull2602 true. Makes since. Continuity is not best in the trilogy
Brett’s Groovy chainsaws yeah I mean they change details about things all the time... like how come the cabin is there in Ash Vs Evil Dead if it was destroyed in Evil Dead 2? How come the cellar door hasn’t been sawed in half? How come Linda has like 4 different faces? It’s all very confusing when you pick at it... best to just not worry about it
Numbskull2602 and on ed2 Blu-ray edition Linda’s head is on the floor when Ash goes in to make his chainsaw
Brett’s Groovy chainsaws yeah, but 30 years or so later her skull is in the vice still
Numbskull2602 exactly
my theory is that since he went back in time, the boomstick slightly reverted back, but not all the way
It's an entirely different make and model. The ED2 one is a Stevens 311. He trims the barrels down from 28" to about 12".
I recently bought a Stoeger Coach gun because of Army of Darkness. One of my favorite movies of all time. In case nobody knew, they are made by Boito and known as the A680. Parts are more easily available if you search Boito. I took it to the range for the local gun club skeet shoot. I'm in no way an expert marksman at skeet. This was only my second time. Anyways, I ended up being tied for first with 2 other people. The guy next to me gave me a compliment, said he'd never seen anyone shoot skeet, with a coach gun as good as me. I told him I guess I'll be using it for now on. The time before I used a bullpup and I did terrible.
That’s bad ass!
Awesome to man, I’m thinking of taking it out duck hunting/geese
It’s a Stoeger for America and Boito for Brazil
I didn't know that those Stoeger Coach Guns are made by a different company.
And to go with what you was talking about regarding sawing off shotguns, a buddy of mine did it to a 20 gauge. He got busted for something completely unrelated. Probably would have only got a year for what he originally got in trouble for. But once they found he sawed off the 20 gauge down to the furniture, he got almost 10 years for it. In the feds.
Yup. That sucks for your friend
It always makes me physically ill when I hear people claim that "laws" are based on "morality."
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sucks that we dont fight the tyranny physically like the second amendment intends which is all that will actually stop them from enforcing it as if its a real law anyway and like theyve been doing for over a century now because of it
@@judsongaiden9878they for sure arent the "laws" are to control those that will follow them without resistance and it makes it where they cant resist tyranny even if they wanted to because theyll be disarmed and the government and other criminals/bad people wont be because they dont follow those so called "laws" or even real laws like murder and the corrupt government knows this and dont care in fact they want them to have weapons easily as an "excuse" to "ban" all weapons to their stupid followers
Evil Dead II and Ash vs Evil Dead doesn’t use the same gun. They’re both double barrel shotguns but that’s it.
Fact. They're also both hammerless boxlocks, but most side-by-sides are. They have completely different forearms. The ED2 gun is a ye olde Stevens 311. You don't see those anymore.
I imagine a movie bank-rolled by Universal with a budget equal to $20Mil in today's money could've gotten through the paperwork and red tape pretty easy, especially when the gun had the practical and reasonable purpose of being a movie prop.
Channel123 well California has very harsh gun laws. So it’s hard to tell what is considered legal. New York for instance is very hard to get a handgun license now. It takes up to a year to get. But the truth, we may never know why the gun became a coach gun
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 Sam Raimi, regardless of what budget he's working with, is a "big picture" thinker who's a guerrilla filmmaker at heart, so he uses whatever resources are available to him. Can't get a Stevens 311? An IGA/Stoeger Coach Gun is close enough. Only genuine-article gun-nutters (like muhself) would notice the difference. They're both hammerless boxlocks. The Stoeger has a beefier forearm. Beavertail forearms are the best on a side-by-side. Splinter forearms suck.
No less than 18 Inch barrel
No less than 26 for the whole
You measure by inserting a tape measure down the barrel
To a closed action. This is the true way to measure a barrel.
Ash uses a different gun in each movie. In TED, it's a generic single-shot 20-gauge, possibly a Harrington & Richardson. In ED2, he uses a Stevens 311 with 28" barrels that he trims down to about 12". In AoD, it's what you pointed out, an IGA/Stoeger Coach Gun with 20" barrels.
The Gun Control Act of 1934 is the reason we have to go through red tape to legally own proper short-barrel shotguns, requiring paperwork and a transfer tax, all of which is unconstitutional. Same for guns that have full-auto or burst-fire modes.
2:28 Ackchyually, it's 18". The extra half inch is just to factor out any margin of error to our system being overly litigious and repressive. Aside from an 18" barrel length limit, it also has to be at least 26" in overall length. I always chortle to myself whenever I hear people claim that "laws" are based on morality. "Laws" made by the weak will be abolished by the strong.
3:03 Where are you getting that information? Shotguns can maim, sure, but they're made to kill.
Thanks for the information. 👍👍
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 "Any time." (spoken in Mac voice from Predator)
I still love this movie since i was a child
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Finally, a fan theory that makes sense.
When he spins it right after the barrel is short, but I see your point
You are correct. The gun he spins is shorter. It’s a foam stunt shotgun
10 gauge would nock your shoulder out of socket! I own this same coach. Nice! I got the same 20 gauge from ED as well. I didn't modify mine like Don did! The one I got from Joey Bourg is light as a feather 🪶! He used good magnets 🧲 in her. She spins smooth! I noticed the barrel length after a few comparisons. I'm glad i went short and sexy from Joey Bourg. If you need a 💥 boomstick.
Not if you use proper technique. Scott from Kentucky Ballistics has a 10-gauge, but he also has a 4-gauge, and he's able to handle those just fine. Of course, he's built like a Terminator, so that helps. I wonder if he's ever shot a Fat-Mac in .950 JDJ. He can handle a 4-gauge, so he could handle a .950 just fine.
The camera angle when the sword got blasted always gets me hahahah
It was because problems with who owns the rights so Sam ramai had to change the story a bit so he probably just used a different prop
Yeah I just Notice that in the last Film He Sawed off with a Chainsaw to be more shorter to fit in the sack
IRL, that would ruin the barrels AND the chain.
@@judsongaiden9878 Good Point
I am currently looking for one. This thing just looks sooo beautiful it hard to get my eyes off it.
Definitely a cool shotgun
vfx will cover the shotgun by 3 inches long
Turns out it wasnt a remington but a stoeger
Nice for close quarter combat if need be
White Blogger Black Specs you’re exactly right
Awesome video!!! I did I never noticed that the army of darkness one was bigger
On evil dead two he used a Stevens 311. Different shotgun. In Army of Darkness and Ash Vs the Evil Dead he Used a Stoeger IGA coach. I mean, theres another hole in the story. It shows him taking his sawed off 311 through the portal. It does not make any sense. Its like the continuitey between Evil Dead 1 and 2, just dont think about it too much.
The Ash Vs. Evil Dead one most likely isn't a Stoeger despite what IMFDB says. They just use a Stoeger as a generic example. Stoeger doesn't put "splinter" forearms on any of their side-by-sides (by all means correct me if I'm wrong). All of theirs have the beefier and more favorable "beavertail" style of forearm. All the double-barrel shotguns that Ash uses are side-by-side hammerless boxlocks with double triggers.
@@judsongaiden9878 I'll be damned. Imfdb is crap with break action shotguns. I looked at it more and I'm thinking they went back to the Stevens 311. I also found one of the rubber props that was auctioned and it is definitely not modeled after a Stoeger. So we have the Winchester 37A > Stevens 311 > Stoeger IGA Coach then the Stevens 311 again? That's my bet for now.
Can you fire both barrels at once? I've been buying up guns from the movies lately. So far I got almost all of the Terminator guns with the exception of the Vulcan minigun and grenade launcher. (Obviously).I have m60 rambo had. I also have the four screw 8 3/4 inch barrel 44 magnum from dirty Harry. I plan on getting a double barrel Remington with a walnut stock because I was a fan of the evil Dead franchise
Yes both will fire at the same time if both triggers are pulled at the same time
Any double-barrel with double triggers can fire a Do0m 2-style double-shot. Just be careful doing it because it's not pleasant (speaking from experience here). Most side-by-sides are hammerless boxlocks with double triggers and extractors. Fancier models might have ejectors. Believe it or not, a single selective trigger is considered favorable since most shotgun sportspersons try NOT to fire double-shots.
Remington hasn't made a side-by-side for generations, but they do make over/unders. Expect to pay through the nose, though. Not sure why, but fancy-pants double-barrels often cost a lot more than pump-actions even if they're the same brand. As simple as pump-action shotguns are, break-open guns are even simpler. Maybe you're paying for both the name and the taste of tradition...or something.
Anyway, none of the shotguns Ash uses are made by Remington. Not sure who wrote that line, but the blatant falseness of it resulted in a joke in 'My Name Is Bruce' where he refers to a .45 long-slide as a ".31 longbow." It's the same make and model of .45 long-slide that Arnie used in 'The Terminator', an AMT Hardballer.
I slowed down the scene .25 and watched it at max resolution and I can tell you he did swirl that gun and it was the real thing
Spartacus547 nope. Look at the barrel length
Spartacus547 also have you held a real coach gun? That twirl will not happen
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 I think I have to agree with the other guy. Bruce does that spin, but they could’ve modified the gun triggers to get more space for his fingers for the twirl. It’s production they could’ve done so much to make that shotgun more comfortable. I mean it’s a movie production
I have always wondered that
why does this look like it was made in the late 2000s
John Kapusta because it was made on an old crappy phone. Lol
Does Ash's boomstick have one trigger or two? I was planning on buying a stoeger coach gun and I wanna get it as accurate as possible
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Yes this is true but for the rest of the movie that I remember he had the shortened barrel
It's because metal was longer in the 1300s
Didn’t even notice a difference maybe I’ll have to watch this movie again soon??? Lol
Nnow I know all about the Poopstick I can die in peace !
Martin Brown glad I could help with the poopstick 👍
Which gauge is your shotgun and what length are the barrels?
It’s a 12 gauge. The barrel length of that coach gun is 20”
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 thanks for the clarification
Oh and one more question, was it actually like that in the movie?
Sam O'Neill Mullally in Army of Darkness yes, but the shotgun he twirls is a foam shotgun which was much smaller in length
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 I got that part of the video
So nice lookin. Love goin to this video to see this gun
Is it really remington or stoger
I’m not 100% sure. Stoeger makes the exact same model that was used, but there is a possibility it may have been a Remington. Even though I’ve never seen a model that matches the one used. So as I know so far it’s most likely a stoeger
I can twirl my stoeger 12ga. One rotation. And it isn’t easy.
Or, just including the film and not the production, he sawed off the barrel in the evil dead 2
Yes!
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 also, didn't said in the comentary, he could have sawed off the barrel himself so he could have a quicker draw, because mobility wouldn't come into question when you have a chainsaw hand.
@@freezer6682 that’s exactly why👍
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 quick question, why do the US prohibit a shotgun from having a less then 18 to 20 inches??
@@freezer6682 not sure, maybe easier to conceal. It really makes no sense though considering you can buy a shorter pump action shotgun with a pistol grip in some states
Any why was his holster empty then he suddenly had it in his hand
scannaunderscore1 yes it was. They never stated how he got his boomstick back
@@brettsgroovychainsaws5995 if I had to guess, he probably fetched it off a horse off screen. My gf asked the same thing and that's all I could come up with
It’s because the evil dead movies have been retconned.
yo recuerdo que el tipo grito como niña cunado le reventaron su espada
Because it's an alternate reality
Please tell me you all know that gun laws don't apply to prop guns in movies lmao.
bro upgrade your tv
That’s a very old video. Lol
In Illinois it’s 18 inches. I have 2 coach guns, but they have the higher priced nickel coat finish. I met Bruce in 2020, it was the best night of my life.
That’s awesome!