Studio Display VS Pro Display XDR VS 24" iMac (WHICH IS THE BEST APPLE DISPLAY?)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Comparison of the new Studio Display vs Pro Display XDR vs 24" iMac. Which brings the best value and which is the best "display" from Apple.
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In honesty, the M1 iMac is still AWESOME value considering you are getting a fully functional display with an actual OS. The Studio display is great if you have an existing MPB, Mac mini etc. Really wish we saw a higher refresh rate but at least you don't have to pay $1000 for the stand like on the Pro Display XDR :) Still remember that in the crowd at WWDC hahaha. Which display are you getting?
1600 usd for a sdr display at 60 hz. no from me
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Will be getting the Studio Display, as soon as it is available in stores without 8-10w wait time… 2200€ here in Austria, hoping for a discount to 2000€ or less.
I dont trust MKBHD
Studio display for me sitting on my desk - so close to worth it for me, should’ve been same price as the LG 5k (and that one discontinued), and webcam really should’ve been better. Of course pro motion / mini led would’ve been great but probably then it’s a 2500 monitor.
Nice comparison. I think the XDR is also part of a sales trick Apple (and everyone else) uses to make their products look reasonably priced called anchoring. If you saw $1599.00 compared to other similar monitors you’d see it as outrageous, but they anchor the notion that a monitor can easily cost $6K then suddenly $1600 starts to seem almost reasonable.
So Apple priced the XDR based on what they planned to price a product that came out years later? Doubt it. The XDR actually isnt outrageously priced, it competes with reference class monitors that are 20-30K and even exceeds them. And there's nothing really out there you can compare the price of the Studio Display to.
@@Slurpy2k8 Didn’t say the XDR was a bad monitor for the money But it’s still crazy expensive. And yup - it’s pretty much the standard playbook to structure pricing in this way. Apple wins both ways - they get to sell some expensive monitors to true professionals but ultimately and more importantly leverage it to make a $1600 60Hz IPS display seem like it’s not overpriced. And that will help them sell a lot of those, probably at much higher margin.
@@Scootir185 Very true. I have the LG Ultrafine 5k and was curious about the Studio display. It wasn't enough of an improvement for me to go out and purchase it. Have to say I was disappointed. The XDR should be seen in person. Aside from its ridiculous price, it has an amazing picture on it.
@@speedzero7478 For the same price you can buy a Eizo Coloredge. Way better than any Apple display.
@@Slurpy2k8 true !
And don't forget that the XDR is the only 32'' 6K monitor on the market. That doesn't explain the price (this you did well) but it's a fact : if you want a 32'' "retina" (220 ppp / smoothing @2x), no other monitor can do that today
Monitor manufacturers (LG, Samsung, etc) could easily propose a 32'' 6K thunderbolt monitor with just an IPS LED panel (but a good one), this would be a far less expensive model while allowing them comfortable benefits, but they prefer to fight on the field of cheap 27'' 4K ... if someone understand why .... ?
The M1 iMac is a no brainer… an amazing display and the M1 chip. I have it and love using it… will be rocking with it for the next few years easily.
I almost went with the iMac studio and studio display but decided to go with a silver iMac 24” which is perfect for my use. I’m just mad I waited so long.
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That is a good value buy considering you also get a keyboard and mouse with the iMac
I don’t understand why Studio Display is more expensive than an iMac… the iMac is a full computer! Because it’s 3” larger? 🤷♂️
Because its overpriced. Oh and you can't use he iMac as an external display, so say you have a MacBook / Mac Studio / Mac Mini and need a display, you cant use it - also you dont get Center Stage? Idk. Also its 5K instead of 4.5K so...
27 5k lg monitor also this price
@@rogersam8554 nop, 27" LG Ultrafine is cheaper than an iMac..
5k lg is a little bit cheaper and much worse build quality and worse panel, iMac is also running on cheap m1 cpu with smaller, cheaper display
I have a feeling this display actually was designed to be the iMac Pro, but they changed tactics last minute, probably because of thermal problems. Still they should have come out with a 27 inch iMac Pro with an M1 Pro chip inside.
Who needs iMac Pro? iMac Pro was released because of bad thermals and design mistakes of trashcan Mac Pro. Now, Mac Studio is perfectly fine and there's no need to integrate it in the display.
It's a reasonable guess, considering that this display has so many bugs. They're just not sure about it.
It's a shame that Apple won't give us an iMac 27" for now.
I agree, Tino. It's the elephant in the room and quite a deliberate omission by Apple to push much more expensive products to customers who just wanted a newer version of the 27" iMac.
@@candleby It's incredible to say it in this day and age but the 24" imac with 16GB RAM is actually still currently an incredible piece of tech. Throw in a £100 usb hub and all in all for £1700 (education store) it's an incredible deal for a desktop. I don't see them updating the 24" until 2024 with M3 and the 27" days seem to be long gone. Shame they couldn't dilute how many options there are for consumers that they seem to be doing with the laptops currently.
@@daggar98 Got the 16gb model iMac used for around 1100 :D
they want exactly this, that you can't wait to buy one the day he takes out the 27 in.
Apple doesn't respect its customers. What else is new
Yo, let me not say much all the way from Africa... the "Pro Display XDR" is spectacular! Enough said.
Nice, i really want to see a compare video with 3 display of Apple, and i think u are the first person who made this topic.
Thanks! Hope it helps you make up your mind
Hi Karl. Is the XDR less bright (500nits) SDR compared to the studio display at (600nits) ? What’s your take on regular usage and photo editing? Thanks !!
Studio Display is very tempting option. I could use my MBP display for HDR content creation while keeping timeline etc. other stuff on the bigger screen.
Everyone is different. I personally think 32" is the sweet spot.
Fair, sometimes I find it a bit too large for my timeline but 27-32 is about right
@@KarlConrad I use two 32" monitors, a third 32" monitor rotated portrait and a 34". This is productivity and photo editing. Like I said, everyone is different and I don't judge. None of them are the XDR monitors. I Wish! LOL
I would love to see a 49-inch 3:2 8K option from Apple. It would be lovely in a studio setup behind a huge mixer or a DAW controller.
27 inch is very small. It is definitely not “sweet spot for 95% of people”. I use a 40 inch tv for my coding and most coder I know prefer bigger screen.
As far as content consumption goes, you don’t get much visible screen because of the aspect ratio of the Studio Display and the 27 inch size.
Those are the two use cases I use an external display for and they both better with a bigger screen.
salami, you managed to keep us from seeing the three screens on at the same time in 13 minutes of video
I was thinking about getting the studio display. Aand chose the mid range 24inch iMac instead. I was able to get it $300 cheaper, 1200 vs 1600 is a no brainer.
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I have an XDR Display and I love it.
For my own use the 24” iMac is the best value
100p the best value!
@@KarlConrad what do you mean by "100p"?
I dont understand why no 27 or bigger iMac (with Apple Silicon). But, my first 5k iMac was 1600 and an amazing deal. Also, the regular 5k had better performance than the imac pro. That's how much they charge for the studio display. PS The reviewer is right. There should be more ports for the price.
Can you use the iMac as a secondary display for other devices?
It works perfectly with my iPad and Windows laptop with thunderbolt
I know I need a desktop computer because I spend several hours in front of my laptop everyday and it's kind of exhausting. I think the iMac is my best option since I only use it for browsing and writing essays. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the comparison with the iMac too. I was wondering if one type of glass the standard glass is easier to clean without scratching the screen if you use a microfiber cloth. I currently have an old iMac that has a very glossy display but is easy to clean. One thing I don't like about the new iMac is the white frame around the display.
Thanks for the 3 displays in comparison. How does the color/contrast/brightness between the iMAC and Studio Display actually look? Is a the iMAC just a smaller version of the SD? Thanks
Loved your video. Probably the best to compare these 3. But i think you missed keeping 24 & Studio together for us to see the screen size difference :( But great video. Just the one which will help a lot to make that decision here in India where we don't have Studio in the shops to see it in physical form. And I almost got a heart attack when you showed the small nick on the display. I am very confused between 24 + 1Tb SSD + 16GBUM OR 27 + Mac Mini 1TB + 16GBUM I am using 21.5 + 1TB + 8GB late 2013. I definitely want a bigger screen with faster 4k edits.
seriously wait for the wwdc event on 6th of june!!!i'm also confused... .
Wouldn't it be intriguing if enabled the 24 inch iMac to be a hybrid model that can both serve as a local computer ... but ALSO as a external display to another Mac?!?!?!?!?!?! Add a feature to allow switching between modes and a hotkey sequence to switch back and forth and introduce a TB3 port supporting display-port connections.
It’s almost like they did this before…in 2010! Target display mode was the bomb.
Best ever my favourite Display
This was the video i needed
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Got a Studio display, I love it.
Studio display rocks! Be great to have it bigger size
The only thing that bugs me regarding the Pro Display is the fact that it comes without the stand. 5000$ for the display and stand would have been a bit more digestible. What I love about it is the fact it can be turned into portrait mode, this is a must have feature for photographers. I love this display.
What they should have done was sell the display with the stand included for $6000 but allow customers to knock the price down to $5000 by not getting the stand. 😉
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As an owner of the M1 iMac,I’d love to have a monitor for maybe 1k that is the same screen as the 24” iMac but black bezels and center stage and speaker. I already think 24” is huge lol. But a cheaper monitor I could plug into my MacBook Air as well would be great while still offering the one cord simplicity of the studio display and iMac.
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I use a 32 inch monitor and it doesn't even feel that big to me
can you use the iMac as an external display ? Connected to a MacBook Pro
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I got the glossy version of the studio display even though there is a window right behind me. In the week that I have had it, the coatings on it are extremely impressive at controlling glare on a glossy display and it gets more than bright enough to see even during the brightest part of the day. Unless you absolutely cannot tolerate glare, then I don't think the nano-texture finish is worth it. As much as I enjoy the studio display, I'm very saddened that it is not a 27" iMac with M1 pro and Max SOCs. Apple probably could have reserved the M1 Ultra for the Mac Studio without upsetting too many people.
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Tbh, I choose the standard glass, because only apple did their monitor in glossy glass which no other monitors brand do, matte is too common, glossy more sharper and vibrant just like TVs
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Just picked up a Studio Display and a M2 Mac Mini. Loving the new setup. I am coming from a MacBook Air intel i5
Grande karl bel video
Got an incredible deal on the Pro Display XDR with the stand last week. Best screen ever!
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Define incredible.
Congrats!
eBay?
@@rustybucket5465 Local classified ads. Got it for the equivalent of US$ 2,300 with the stand.
I really appreciate this video. I’ve been debating whether I should get the M1 iMac or the new Mac studio and studio display. The iMac seems to be the best value, so you’ve definitely helped clarify my decision!
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Yes, I would look at it this way. If you want a stand alone desktop start with the M1 "mac mini" with 16GB and only if, it did not meet your needs would, I upgrade to the base model of the new "Mac Studio". However, if you prefer using an All-in-One computer the colorful 24-inch iMac is 100 percent the way to go. Also, if ordering an iMac please get the top of the line version with its matching mouse, track-pad, and full sized (with number pad) keyboard at about $2,000 (US). Trust me, with a computer from Apple there is nothing like buying a full and complete system to meet all your needs, both now and for many years into the future (smile...smile).
@@transitengineer Thanks so much for taking the time to share your insights. I wanted to buy the full suite of iMac accessories, so you’ve definitely affirmed what I was hoping to do!
Hi Karl can we use the apple displays without connecting to a mac mini, mac pro or macbook? 😊😊
Did you cry when you chipped the side of xdr pro display?
Thank you. I am debating between the studio display or an iMAC. I have multiple laptops that can run the display. However it’s cheaper to get a iMac and it comes with soo much more. However screen size may make my decision. I’d like to see more of a comparison to screen size of the 2.
What did you choose ?? I am confused too
@@meghanak8854 I went with a studio display and run it from my 2016 MacBook Pro. I love the display. Although my MacBook seems to be under powered to run the display and it’s self. Looks like I am now getting a newer more powerful MacBook.
@@Paulies_House thank you
@@Paulies_House There's no right or wrong option. It is most definitely the far more expensive option but welcome to apple! Brilliant display, value is always going to drop the higher quality you strive for with apple!
Update: My 2016 Macbook pro was not powerful enough to run the Studio Display. Also, Apple will not allow the 2016 Macbook pro to update to Ventura OS. I replaced the 2016 Macbook pro with a new 2022 14" Macbook pro upgraded with 32 GB memory and now I cruising with all the power I need!
That was nice commentary KC. I liked the idea of highlighting the overkill aspect of the XDR Pro and the utility to price for the iMac. Really excellent points! I guess my issue with the "Studio" is that it isn't pro motion for the money. That is just a gripe, but it's disappointing. You are paying a steep premium for the package deal, speakers and excellent camera. . .
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Damn, I was hoping you would show us the front of the screens side by side so we can see better size comparisons.
nice review but sidw by side is there any real difference between xdr vs studio display? Is it moresharp ,better color accuracy or with naked eye there is no noticeable difference?
I do own a macbook 14" and studi display..and i was thinking to get the xdr as i am doing wedding photography and videography.But i was wondering if you can see more details with the xrd or is it exactly the same?
Apple does everything intentionally. The extra hardware in this monitor has to have a purpose on something not available yet. Nice review!
I would choose the design of the Pro Display XDR in the size of the Studio Display at the price of the iMac. 😎
Hello Karl, thanks for the awesome video.
Is that possible to use iMac M3 as a monitor for my MacBook Pro?
Thanks!
I was thinking of getting the studio display but I can have another Mac if I purchase iMac and it has the same display but smaller. I think the iMac 🖥 has amazing value. iMac will be my next purchase.
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The Pro Display XDR is clearly their Halo product that makes the rest look well priced, but really you still pay a big premium especially for the Studio Display. Love the design though on all 3 models.
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can I use the 24inch iMac as a monitor for my MacBook Pro 16?
hey karl, thank you for share this video comparation. totally awesome. How do you think when the pro xdr display 32 inch vs pro xdr display on macbook m1 pro 2021. is it the same specification except the size? 😊
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Awesome video..! I got the studio via employee discount (friend) and it’s just a must have accessory… amazing..
Are you saying really the Pro Display isn't worth it? It doesn't look amazing, I mean, more amazing than the Studio one? Not even because it's 6K? Really?
HONEST question, I really want to know because I have always wanted a Pro Display (Just got a 32" 4K LG 144hz and I love it, kinda killed the desire for the Pro Display).
Thanks for that Karl! Maybe I should get the Pro Display XDR as a luxury buy
The monitor doesn’t support HDR and you say hdr content looks great?
From what Apple Insider says, it does support HDR, but doesn’t get any brighter than its normal 600 nits. They showed a UA-cam video playing side by side with a Studio Display and the LG equivalent and the UA-cam video showed the same video playing on the Studio Display in HDR while oddly it was not in HDR on the LG.
It supports HDR but they cannot legally claim it because it doesn’t have the full brightness to qualify for that label. So you would not get the full blacks or whites of a tv or display with the full “hdr” label, but for all intents and purposes it is fully capable of viewing HDR content (although with a reduced white and black range).
@@ghost-user559 Isn't there an HDR400 certification? Granted, most people consider that fake HDR, but it's still a certification standard. Most real HDR requires 800-1000 nits but I've seen some monitors with HDR400 certification.
@@techinrl9869 Well that’s kind of what I mean, it doesn’t pass certification because of the brightness limitations, but it CAN technically play HDR content in a less dynamic range.
That’s the strange thing about all these silly LCD lobby and USBC and Thunderbolt and HDMI standards is they are all so specific, yet the manufacturers are all so different in the quality of cables and ports and components vary so drastically.
So for HDR content this screen would function within its range of brightness to view HDR, but on a technicality it doesn’t have the contrast or brightness ratio to qualify for the official standards, which is actually why Apple doesn’t advertise it as HDR, but that’s interesting because they still gave the customer the ability to utilize HDR content. So it’s very interesting to include functionality you can’t advertise just for the benefit of the viewer. That’s a rare thing for corporations, so I can’t help but think they had supply chain issues that prevented full HDR implementation on these devices, and so they essentially “binned” the Display brightness capacity at the last minute until the mini led models.
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BRO CAN YOU DROP A LINK ABOUT YOUR STUDIO CHAIR AND SPEAKERS AS WELL THANKS
I felt that "$599...9" in my soul lol
Does the xdr pro also have a fan that comes on? The studio fan is pretty annoying for me so I returned it but miss the Apple quality.
Team imac all day. Even though I'm on a Mac Mini 👀
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Okay so cool, but now can someone make a video covering the experience of using a Studio Display as a 2nd monitor of an iMac Retina 5K 27”
- Does the audio work in both screens?
- Which camera will be used?
- How’s the workflow?
What do you mean hows the workflow, its just a second monitor lol. You can choose which camera to use and which speakers to use
@@danieldev514 do you have the set up?
Is it possible to use both screens speakers at the same time or only one at a time?
Workflow - I mean is it fluid to navigate from one screen to the other one? The quality of image and color sense is equal or do we need to readjust and calibrate?
These things are important to me and to the quality of my work so yeah my questions shouldn’t be judge or seen as a joke.
@@davidsalgado5279 Yes I've tried it with my iMac before selling it for a MacBook.
They are detected by macOS as just regular speakers so if you can two speakers at the same time in macOS then you can use studio display's and iMac's too although i didn't try it
The main difference is the brightness and contrast and it is visible under certain viewing conditions but colors overall are great on both and I don't think you will have to readjust (you can always lower the brightness on the studio if you need).
I just don't get it, like why is Apple even manufacturing these displays? The iMac seems reasonable since it's a display but also has a computer in it, but all three of these displays are supplied by LG. The only thing that I feel like they're doing is making the sound system and the back texture which they can apply to the iMac for additional expenses. With the price tag, they put up for those displays, it feels like it's. a much better option to buy the iMac(if you want both Mac and a display) or a Samsung or LG display(e.g. Odyssey G9) if you're looking for a Pro level display. Agian I'm not denying that I may stand incorrect, I'm just expressing my POV, if it's wrong, please elaborate with a reply.
Apple products are like a work of art
Do your feel that there is a degradation of quality with the nano-texture display? I like the idea of lessening glare and reflections, but image quality is important to me
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XDR a monstrosity, surely you meant monster? If only the M1 Mac Mini would physically connect to the 27" Intel iMac, Luna software solution looks clunky and its expensive. I am presently checking out alternatives. Any suggestions? I would love to upgrade to M1 but I have this great 5K 27" monitor already.
After he showed the "knick" he had with the Pro display, I cant stop but notice it ;-;
I reckon he will have to replace the whole display. It is an eye sore now.
interesting video, make a huawei mate view testing pls
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There are two ways which would be much better for Apple users / consumers ;
1) imac 32 inch / 6k with a reasonable price
2) A new display 32 inch / 6k with a reasonable price
Because ;
1) imac 24 inch not enough big even if resolution seems ok
2) Apple Studio Display is not enough big by 27 inch and not cheap
3) Apple Pro Display XDR enough big and having most advanced features ever but no one can afford to buy that
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How do you see their default colors compared to iphone colors? Planning to get one soon
What kind of graphics card is recommended to run the Pro XDR Display?
I just hate the bezels on the imac. Great machine otherwise but wow, thick bezels and white color too, I can't stand it. Thats why I just went for the M1 mini with my old 5k LG Ultrafine. I might get the XDR, even though its way outside my budget what I wanted to spend, its such a beautiful panel and I know I'll enjoy it for many years.
The bezels on the ultra fine are bad too 😢
Have to admit that orange is fire. Wish the Studio Display came with that option............which would probably have a $500 upcharge.
Does anyone know if you can use an iMac as an extended display for your MacBook Pro , (not including AirPlay)
such a wasted opportunity to look at 3 of them all side by side and compare their sizes and how much space they take up on the desk, how their heights and stands differ, etc...just 13 minutes of specs and prices 😞
This monitor has to be one of the worst product apple made ever. Almost scam level product for $1600 using outdated screen technology and $400 just to add heigh adjustment. Insane.
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Can you mirror a MacBook on a iMac? I was thinking about getting the Apple studio monitor but the iMac is a better deal to me, but I would want to mainly use it as a bigger monitor for my MBP.
You could set up universal controls for the seperate monitor effect!
What a deceiving title. Where is side by side picture quality comparison?
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All I want is a bezel-less 27" iMac with the M1 chip. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR? (Also I hate that they removed the Apple logo on the 24" iMac it looks so ugly without it).
Use the stickers they give
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i'm type of lower user , so maybe this year i will buy iMac red one , for editing of my college or just buy for ecosystem , because i have ipad pro m1 dan macbook air gold hahahaha... i was thinking if you highest user , imac that was enought.. depend on your opinion what looking for ?? iMac pro xdr really fuckinn price for us. i think iMac pro suitablr for produtiton house of film like hollywood films hehehe...
The xdr also capped at 60hz?
I wish apple created a display that is basically the m1 iMac but no chin, and 1440p instead of 4K to get the price down. An apple budget display would be super popular it would be like a modern equivalent of the Thunderbolt display
Hi! I'm looking to get a new desktop to use architecture programs (rhino, AutoCAD etc). I was wondering if anyone knows if you can use the Mac 24" as a display for the mac studio desktop box? I know it sounds silly, but the iMac is cheaper than the studio display whilst including all the accessories. Would it be possible to connect iMac to the Studio?
Can you use the iMac 24" as a display for the Mac Studio or laptops?
Not officially. Apple took away target display mode a few macOS releases ago.
Is iMac M2 or M3 coming with 27 inch ????
but we are eagerly waiting for upcoming iMac launch,
Anyone know about launch date ???
Just curious, is it possible to use iMac as an external display for MacBook?
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Crazy how a monitor costs more than a whole ass computer. I really only need the monitor cause I have a MacBook Pro but damn might as well get the iMac considering those ridiculous prices
nice vid
Can you conect macbook pro into an imac ?
Looks like indeed the iMac no longer comes with the nano texture option, which it previously did.
Would be nice if Apple brings out small monitors as well
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That's next I think. 24 inch, 4.5K monitor. Then they will discontinue the iMac line entirely. You heard it here first!
How the hell does Apple sell a $5,000 monitor with only one Thunderbolt port. I'm still pissed the $1500 Studio display only has 1, when my plastic LG has 2.
Because they paired it with the Mac Pro which has tons of ports, and they assume a studio is the one buying so they have more than enough ports on their computers. It’s not for normal people.
Can studio display play Netflix and UA-cam HDR content like my iPhones?
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Not sure why people cars that much between 5.4k vs. 6k on a monitor that is 3" in size difference up to 27"? Even 4k on an OLED TV would matter more if the screen was 42" at least. Having 6k on a 27" monitor, seriously if you can see the difference, you have seriously good eyes. I have played video's that have as high as they claim of 12k resolution and played them on my 4k OLED TV and they look just as amazing as 8K and in many cases 5.4k resolution.
Much of this is also, just upselling you to spend more money to buy something in a size you may not even give a flip. I play 4k on my iPad 12.9" and my iPhone 13 Pro max and doesn't really matter. Looks beautiful on both, but I couldn't tell you if it was playing 6k, 8k or even 12k resolution. The display is too small to matter. My only point is, Most people just buy the overkill latest and greatest, but may have zero use for such a high resolution they can't even tell the difference in, unless they have a much larger screen to see it in.
Just watch out for the upsells, if you can't see the difference on the size screen you're using if you buy a 4k display of 24" vs. a 6k display that is 13" and they both look the same. Why spend more money on something you can't even see a real difference? Just don't get screwed into upsells and buy what works for you and makes you happy.
If you don't see difference then go and check your eyes.
I had to opt for the studio display because I'm poor
But... couldn't I use the iMac 24" as a display for my MBP (a 16" 2019)? A quick google talks about older iMacs, this seems almost too good to be true. While my MBP is older and not an M1, it has a lot of ram and decent storage space, and it's where all my stuff is.
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First of all iMac is a computer not just a monitor which means you have to get a separate computer to use it as a display, why do you need an M1 Max MBP connected to IMac display, this just doesn't make sense
People are pushing for this glossy display stuff, and yeah the colors are a bit more vibrant but the reflecting is also a huge distraction, and has a headache inducing effect.