FIX in 30 seconds--Everything he said is 100% correct-- I had the exact same issues-- the EFI 20a fuse was black on one side but not blown-LX would not start , stranded me at Post office. all the New Fuse Boxes are sold out completely- just a few in junkyards-- After watchin the video the problem is one side of the EFi 20a fuse below what we can see deep into the box so i thought about trying this---Paper Clip unfolded as now straight wire pushed down in the burnt side--then pushing the 20a fuse back in place with paper clip wire protruding out--its a snug fit with the wire inserted but-------It works---starts up like a charm... No Tow Truck-----without the video id be lost so thank you Chowcares.....I have ordered a used box just to have but who knows i may never need it...paper Clip old school
Dude thank you so much! I just used this tip after being stranded in a cold stone parking lot with my four month old and two year old. Fortunately the cold stone workers had a paper clip in the back and I got us home but it was this tip that inspired me! THANK YOU!
Thanks ChowCares, I just completed my junction box swap today in my 98 LX470. As you all know, part number 82720-60022 is discontinued for the 98 and 99 models. I used part number 82720-60023, and it worked beautifully in my 98 LX470.
I had this problem, (2001 LX470) and after seeing your video I discovered I get get it to "click" and then start by wiggling the fuse. Be it was getting harder to do I figured it was just a matter of time before it was not going to work and leave me stranded. I thought about punching ahole in the side so that I could get the to the sleve thing. I decided after watching the video and understanding how the box is constructed, that I would try and break away the guard plastic around that fuse, then I pulled the sleve connector out the top. Did some work on the sleve, and reinstalled the sleves and fuse. It works now. $800 for a new fuse box to fix a little loose connecter is crazy.
Thank you so very much! This pretty much solves the mystery of why my Wife's 2001 Toyota Land Cruiser will randomly not start. All the mechanics that have looked at it say they can't figure out what's going on (but they should did try replacing a bunch of different parts). In fact, I found this video because it didn't start again today - thankfully her brand new car is in transit and we can ditch this Charlie Foxtrot of a Land Cruiser in a couple weeks.
Thank you so much for your video!!! I had the same issue with my 2000LC. I could not find a box here in Colombia so what i did was very carefully cut away the plastic around the fuse holder down to the base of the box using a small pointed wire cutter. I was then able to pull out the metal clips that hold the fuse and slide onto the bottom blades in the box. I carefully cleaned them up as they were full of melted plastic. I carefully reformed the clips around a fuse and tightened the clip that attaches to the fuse box blades. I then slid the clips back down on the blades and attached the fuse. Check Engine light came on and engine started right away. As soon as I can order a new box I will. As of now its running great! Thanks again!
Dealing with same issue, and a frequently charred fuse. Thanks for this info. I am starting to doubt the reliability of this vehicle, despite its sterling reputation. Just dumped 3 grand into timing belt, water pump and radiator, another grand into front axle, and now this headache. Comparing my Chevy - same age and mileage, I haven't had to spend nearly the money to keep it roadworthy. Toyota needs to start remanufacturing these fuse boxes and offer them to their loyal customers for almost free. No-start out on a back road is definitely a "fatal flaw."
I agree, they should do a recall on these, doubt it will happen tho. As far as reliability goes, they are great, it just requires a lot of maintenance and it’s not cheap
Toyota / Lexus REALLY needs to do a recall on this fuse /EFI circuit issue. Less of their customers would end up stranded. Really glad for this vid though
Thank you for posting. Once again, I'm here due to the fact that my 100 series came home today the back of a tow truck. However, mine is the 6 cylinder turbo diesel. Replaced the injector pump 35,000kms and two years ago. After googling, i was directed to your site again. I hope it is a simple fix like you have done.... my poor old wallet would struggle to pay for another injector pump.....
Thank you for this video! I have been stranded twice now , and got home after waiting awhile, messing with the fuse, and replacing the alternator and battery. But I'm going to replace the fuse box like you did. You have no idea I really appreciate understanding what's really going with this issue! I was getting ready to do a part out until I realized there was a real fix. Thank you!
THANKS FOR THIS !!!! MY IMMOBOLIZER STOPPED WORKING AND KEPT MY CAR FROM STARTING AND THE ISSUE WAS THE FAILED FUSE BLOCK - THE DEALERSHIP REPLACED IT - THEY LEFT THE R 1 AND R2 RELAYS IN THE OLD BLOCK AND WHEN I PICKED IT UP THE A/C LIGHT WAS FLASHING BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MAG CLUTCH RELAY - IF I DIDNT SEE THIS VIDEO THEY COULD HAVE TOLD ME I NEEDED A NEW COMPRESSOR OR MANY MORE EXPENSIVE A/C COMPONENTS - THANKS AGAIN !!!!
I just bought a 1999 Land cruiser that won't start everything else the previous owner replaced so this is the first thing I'm going to look at when I get at home
You can by-pass that fuse and install a new fuse and a relay to power the EFI circuit for less than $10. Google Crank and no Start Land Cruiser 100 series. I have the wiring setup just in case. But when you are ready, it won't happen! Thanks for the video!
Mine is diesel. Start up fine when u drive for sometime and u stop it won’t start until it cools down. What will cause this. The longer u drive and u stop the long it will keep to start up fine
Would appreciate a link to the bypass if you have one. $500 for a problem that is likely to recur again and totally disable the vehicle is driving me nuts.
i have a 99 land cruiser, the only thing that i know about as far as parts failing before 100.000 miles on the 100 series is the fuse box and starter, i have 154.000 miles on mine and so far luckily no fuse box or starter problems, i hope i didn’t just jinx my truck !!! lol
Thanks for the write up. But it is missing few details. To take out the clips under the fuse box is one of most frustrating things I ever done. I mean I done starter job s2000 before which I thought was ridiculous. But this … dude it’s pretty up there
Man thanks so much for this video. My land cruiser started about two month ago where suddenly it wouldn’t start. I even took it to a toyota dealership and they said everything was fine. I saw this video and shacked the efi fuse a little bit and it turned on! Now the issue seems to find a new fuse box! Where could I buy one?
Thanks for the support. Easiest thing to try is wiggling/changing out the efi 20amp fuse under the hood. If it starts then u most likely have to replace the fuse box
I also thought about this punching ahole in the side thing. I decided after watching the video and understanding how the box is manufactured, that I would try and break away the guard plastic around that fuse, then I pulled the sleve connector out the top. Did some work on the sleve, and reinstalled the sleves and fuse. It works now. $800 for a new fuse box to fix a little loose connecter is crazy.
@@tynado1173 Good luck, worked for me. I broke off that fuse guard that sticks up, then did a bit of drill, cut, etc to get to that sleve. FYI: if this is the problem you will probably noitice some discoloration or melting of plastic part of the fuse. My son has a similar vehical, and we did the same thing to fix his. After getting the sleve out I just cleaned it up (scraped it with a pointy exacto blade) and did dome micro-surgery to get it bent so that it woudl squeze tighter on the prongs.
@@danagillam I appreciate the tips. I haven't seen any clear indication of melting or looseness. Too bad I can't really get into it to verify before I get into modifying it. Feeling confident this is my issue. I'll report back.
@@tynado1173 If wiggling the fuse fixes the no start, then that proves it is the issue. As it getts loser and loser (from wiggling, then you get arching and heat)
Love your videos. Just starting to have this problem on my 2002 LC (275,000 miles). Can’t find a new fuse box anywhere but will keep looking. I’m considering using carbon conducive grease (MG Chemicals #846) on the fuse to see if it helps. Any thoughts or ideas on using carbon conductive grease? Thanks, keep the videos coming.
It might help, if you watched till the end, I opened up the fuse box and u can see the contacts were loosening on the bottom side, not the fuse side. If u can get in in there it might work, good luck!
Yeah great video & I got same problem with my 100series petrol, it cranks but won't start I've been experiencing that my vehicle was stalling for the last month....& Now it's not starting....
@chowcares: nah, you should be fine. I think you’ve used it in your other videos, no? Or did those get deleted? Let’s hope not! Stay well! Your subscriber and a GX470 owner.
Hahah...Van Pebbles? I think he must mean... "Montaged Digital Music Approved For Appealing Generic Plumber Experiences Non-techno Information Systems."
I´m doing this on a 2002 Lx 470 at 87000 miles. That same fuseholder melted and crank but no start. . I´m in costa rica and have the fuse box and cover on order. The parts guy at the dealership says it will come with fuses but not relays. Should I spray the old relays with wd40 or silicon lube to make them easier to remove? For awhile I was able to jump that fuseholder base (there were two little prongs sticking out) with clips to a fuseholder with wire pigtail and fuse. Then that failed to work. This darn part, (fusebox) costs almost $1000 and takes a month to come from the US. If it´s such a problem why doesn´t the dealer here have them in stock? They even deny that it´s a problem (BS). Thanks for the video, very helpful.
My fuse box came with all fuses and some relays. The ones that don’t come with the new box, just reuse your old ones. I wouldn’t recommend spraying any type of line on the relays, it’s not necessary. Idk why Toyota doesn’t stock them anymore, I guess it’s such an expensive part for an old car they don’t bother.
NIcely done dude! Good explanation on what you were experiencing since everyone seems to have slightly different issues. Cost of the fuse box is $400+ right?
@@ddmercantile they discontinued mine but I’ve been running a bypass for months but finally ordered my box which is discontinued but after some homework there’s a different part number that’ll work on my 98
Thanks for another solid video @chowcares. Cool to see the old one tore apart. Can you help me with....1) is swapping out the EFI relay a good idea just for cheap preventive or is the problem more due to the fuse block ...and 2) do you recall if there was a little rubber seal around the edge of the top cover ? I was inspecting mine and it's either packed in dirt or a really dried up seal
My 2002 LX470 just started the crank but no start symptom. Went to Toyota and the service guy said the part is discontinued and nothing in stock or in transit. I'm either gonna clean it real good and recondition it, or try and source one from somewhere.
Thanks for the video, but after I replace the fuse box, I was able to start my car again. But however all the light on dash start to piping out, is that a sign that I didn’t do a good job on connecting all the clips?
My Land Cruiser shuts off when im at a red light or driving sometimes on the road. Then it struggles to start. I changed the fuel pump and battery. Im going to try this hopefully this works because im running out of ideas.
Great video! I have essentially watched all your 100 series video more than once. Thank you! After using the immobilized bypass for more than a year, I was inspired by this video and started the fuse box replacement. But, I got to your 5:40 video and unplugged a few wire clips. Then, I got stuck and have to take a break. After removing the three clips in the front and the 8 mm and 10 mm screws, I am unable unclip the rest. And, I do not want to force any of the remaining clips in fear of damaging them. Any word of wisdom or instruction would be appreciated.
Thank you! Sometimes the plugs get stuck from being pulled when the tab isn’t pushed in all the way. Try pushing the plug all the way back in, squeezing the tab more, and pulling again. Usually works for me, good luck!
@@chowcares Thank you for your response! I am going to try it again tomorrow morning. Since we cannot flip the fuse box over I cannot get a clear view of the plugs to determine where to press on some of the plugs. I was afraid some of the clips may require additional steps after squeezing them.
Replaced the fuse box on my 99 landcruiser and now the headlights dont work, took the whole fuse box apart to make sure everything was connected. It is. All the fuses test positive with a fuse tester. Replaced the headlights and still no luck. Any advice?
Hi Chow, greetings from Sydney Australia, I have the same problem 2000 4.5l petrol. Stranded once towed 155ks. Just pressing on the 20a efi fuse causing the motor to die. Ordered new fuse box from UAE $724 AU dollars. Thanks. I c what u mean impossible to repair. Cheers!
I have a 1999 470LX that was built 1/99 and so the fuse box used is part number 82720-60022. Models made in 1999 starting around 8/99 started using. Part number 82720-60023. There are literally NO 60022s left anywhere new or used. I can find plenty of the 60023s but all sites say that doesn’t work for the 1998 to mid 1999 470s. Do you know if that’s correct or would the 60023 work (or are other part numbers workable). Help!
Answered my own question. Not the bullet and purchased a brand new 60023 box as there are literally NO 60022’s available anywhere and took a chance installing the 60023. It works perfectly. No issues. Starts right up and all other electrical functions with the 1999 470 work fine. Just letting anyone else know as this Plan B does in fact work as replacement for the 60022 box……..well, it did for mine at least. Good luck!
Thank u for this. I think mine problem is with the fuel, but then again our trucks are that the age of replacing & refreshing some things or most. Ill probably replace my fuel pump and filter to get a tiny bit more mileage nd maybe it will fix my issue. If. Not ill have to do that efi fuse paper clip trick. Then onto replacing entire fuse box ..etc
Thanks for your help but I have a question about the front diferential make a noise do u know something about that if yo u have some answers I ll appreciate
Desperate Plea For Assistance Or Advice regarding this issue on my beloved 1999 Lexus LX470. 1. It's started to have intermittent issue of shutting off when at idle and failing to restart, also failing to restart if shut off until one two hours have passed. 2. It has always started when cold and starting fluid has always made it start if failed to start regularly. 3. Replaced ECM module, mass air sensor, fuel filter, 1 oxygen sensor, fuel pump in tank. 4. I have no error codes showing on scanner, see no corrosion or issues with fuse boxes or modules. Runs strong, smooth idle, good mileage. ANY IDEAS OR ADVICE FROM THOSE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED! Thanks, Shane.
There’s a “jumper relay” posted on ih8mud that u can try. It replaces the efi relay fuse. If that fixes your problem, it’s most likely your fuse box which it sounds like it is
@@chowcares Even though I dont see any kind of corrosion or signs of heat damage on my fuse box? What throws me the most is if its electrical how can the use of starter fluid into the throttle body overcome it? I'm not doubting you as Im certain you're much more knowledge than I am on these thing just trying to understand the diagnosis. I've watched all your videos on the 100 series and I replaced the ECM module first thing when it started this and ill do the fuse box now if that's what it needs just dont see anything that looks at all damaged or badly aged on mine. I live in upstate SC and this has always been local vehicle and not used in mud (or red clay as we have round here).
@@r.shanethompson7933 electrical issues are the most difficult to diagnose. Starter fluid shouldn’t affect the starting but it also could just be a coincidence. The jumper method is a a cheap way to test if the fuse box needs replacing
@@chowcares thank you so much for the replies. Do you have a patreon sign up? I've had to use the starter fluid 6-7 times (min.) as the problem slowly became more frequent. I stopped driving it two weeks ago as the problem became unbearable. It never shut off at all when driving unless completely off the throttle or stopped at idle. It's now almost time able in that I can start it up in the driveway and let it idle and it'll shut off at 8-10 minutes 90% of the time. I'm going to get the parts to make the jumper here in a bit but let me ask you what is the "chassis fuel pump" and could that be where its coming from?
It crank but no start, I just got oils change from Walmart and they parked it at parking lot after when I try it to start it’s just crank but not start. I also see that there is no engine light when I turn key, I love this truck only have 127k on it been with me over 22 years now don’t want to get rid of, I need you to help me to resolve this issue please.
Do you know what color is that efi wire so I can put a external fuse straight to the wire . I need this to move the car to the back so I can get it ready to work on it .
I'm having this issue. I put in a new fuse - get the 'check engine' light. But it won't start. Is there something in the diagnosis I'm missing? Thanks for this great video.
From what I remember they’re all tabs. For the ones that are stuck, try to push them back into the fuse box, squeeze the tab, and pull out again. Usually that works
@@chowcares Thx, Chow! I was able to get them off with a flat head screwdriver. After I installed it the vehicle started right up and sounded really good. Merry Christmas!
Can this cause stalling issues at higher speeds? I'm having a similar rough start and have gone through all air and fuel components. When I go WOT at really any speed I stall out and then it goes back to normal the second I let off the gas.
Before replacing this, I never experienced stalling out, but in theory it could cause it to do that. An easy way to tell is take out the efi fuse and look at the prongs with a flash light, if there is any signs of burnt, discoloration, or deformation, it’s probably your problem
Hey Chow, what were your symptoms of the failed starts? I seem to have a similar issue: starts then dies; almost like there's no gas. What seems to work for me is pulling the EFI fuse, then reconnecting, and starts right up. Is this what you experienced too? Thanks in advance.
@@chowcares I might have to look into the fuse box soon. Just spent a pretty penny on the master cylinder, let's just hope truck starts until I get paid again. Keep up the awesome content!!
Yeah this exactly happened to me. My car randomly shut down lost all power. Managed to coast into a parking lot . Got it towed to mechanic to change the alternator. Cuz before this. I was having trouble starting my car so i figured it was just a bad battery, replaced the battery and was running like a dream for months until this week. Changed the alternator and no fix.. But i was also having issues with the fuel level not reading properly shortly before this, would say im empty when full tank. Go back to normal..etc say im burning more fuel than usual but nxt day back to normal lol
Ok, so I’m having the crank no start, tried different fuses, nothing.....immobilizer light blinking, tried hooking up my scanguage up and it gets power from the Obd2 but will not connect.....any thoughts? Did you see this scanguage connectivity issue as well?
My cheapo obd scanner connected, but did not have any codes. Mine is a 99 tho, yours is maybe newer? There is a way to bypass the immobilizer, search on ih8mud. You basically power it directly or something like that. I’ve never tried it so please be careful.
Other than the EFI Fuse, was there any other connections that seems loose as well? Is it all the fuse box circuitry or is this just EFI fuse specific??
I have a 1998 LC without the rear air option. Do you know if I can use the part number you listed? The fuse box for my VIN is no longer available (82720-60020) for purchase?
As I asked in other related video, Why wouldn't the new fuse box do the same thing if it is not redisigned from the factory. I think the most financially efficient option for the future is the create a bypass like has been done before that totally negates this issue with the faulty fuse box. This costs like nothing to make. Like this..... forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my-immobilizer-fix.946305/
I mean if I get another 300k out of my new box I’ll be happy. Mine didn’t start f ing up until 290k. The bypass you speak of is clutch but I question it on long trips
Wiggle your efi relay and fuse different ways, if you get a start then it’s your box. You can make a bypass out of a auto store relay that’ll work for a while. Been running mine for months but finally ordered a new box
Were you having any issues with the LC dying after you're already driving? I'm not having a no-start issue... it's going down the road at 35 mph and all of a sudden everything dies. Battery, check engine, and AT Oil Temp light come on. Usually if I put it into park, turn key to off, and restart it starts up just fine. Wondering if I'm having the same issue with the EFI fuse connection... 243,xxx miles on my 2000 LC.
@@chouathao6560 Yes! Apparently when the timing belt was done last (prior to my ownership) the wiring loom for the crank position sensor and oil sending unit were incorrectly routed. They didn't put it back behind one of the brackets and it led to the loom being rubbed on by the serpentine belt, rubbed through the loom, and into the wires. So it would make sense that it would short out -- killing the signal from the crank position sensor -- which stalled the car, which stopped the belt, which pulled it away from the wire, which would allow for restart... rinse and repeat. Had to pull it out, splice in replacement wire, and the most fun part... snaking it down the correct way without taking the front of the engine off to reconnect it correctly. Crossing my fingers it has been working since then.
@@GrayHairGaming Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you have figure out your problem. As for me I had to drop $$ on a new fuse box. It has been two weeks since I installed the new fuse box, and it haven't stall out on me. Fingers crossed!
FUCK! I started watching to see HOW do I get a relay out, you skipped it. I pull on my relay (starter one, cause I have dead silence from my LC when turn the key) I was pulling on that relay hard, I tried pliers ... and nothing. There has to be a trick, and there is NOTHING on the internet. I am wasting hours upon hours of my time on this fucking non start issue (of the legnedarely relayable vehicle, that just got me stranded for fifth time) that I am ready to send it off a cliff and buy a fucking lada niva or shit like that. Everything is simple there.
FIX in 30 seconds--Everything he said is 100% correct-- I had the exact same issues-- the EFI 20a fuse was black on one side but not blown-LX would not start , stranded me at Post office. all the New Fuse Boxes are sold out completely- just a few in junkyards-- After watchin the video the problem is one side of the EFi 20a fuse below what we can see deep into the box so i thought about trying this---Paper Clip unfolded as now straight wire pushed down in the burnt side--then pushing the 20a fuse back in place with paper clip wire protruding out--its a snug fit with the wire inserted but-------It works---starts up like a charm... No Tow Truck-----without the video id be lost so thank you Chowcares.....I have ordered a used box just to have but who knows i may never need it...paper Clip old school
Great idea so you just made the contact snug on the sleeve Chow tailed about getting loose from the top side?
Worked for me
Dude thank you so much! I just used this tip after being stranded in a cold stone parking lot with my four month old and two year old. Fortunately the cold stone workers had a paper clip in the back and I got us home but it was this tip that inspired me! THANK YOU!
Thanks ChowCares, I just completed my junction box swap today in my 98 LX470.
As you all know, part number 82720-60022 is discontinued for the 98 and 99 models. I used part number 82720-60023, and it worked beautifully in my 98 LX470.
I had this problem, (2001 LX470) and after seeing your video I discovered I get get it to "click" and then start by wiggling the fuse. Be it was getting harder to do I figured it was just a matter of time before it was not going to work and leave me stranded. I thought about punching ahole in the side so that I could get the to the sleve thing. I decided after watching the video and understanding how the box is constructed, that I would try and break away the guard plastic around that fuse, then I pulled the sleve connector out the top. Did some work on the sleve, and reinstalled the sleves and fuse. It works now. $800 for a new fuse box to fix a little loose connecter is crazy.
Thank you so very much! This pretty much solves the mystery of why my Wife's 2001 Toyota Land Cruiser will randomly not start. All the mechanics that have looked at it say they can't figure out what's going on (but they should did try replacing a bunch of different parts). In fact, I found this video because it didn't start again today - thankfully her brand new car is in transit and we can ditch this Charlie Foxtrot of a Land Cruiser in a couple weeks.
Thank you so much for your video!!! I had the same issue with my 2000LC. I could not find a box here in Colombia so what i did was very carefully cut away the plastic around the fuse holder down to the base of the box using a small pointed wire cutter. I was then able to pull out the metal clips that hold the fuse and slide onto the bottom blades in the box. I carefully cleaned them up as they were full of melted plastic. I carefully reformed the clips around a fuse and tightened the clip that attaches to the fuse box blades. I then slid the clips back down on the blades and attached the fuse. Check Engine light came on and engine started right away. As soon as I can order a new box I will. As of now its running great! Thanks again!
Chow really does care. This guy is the real MVP.
Dealing with same issue, and a frequently charred fuse. Thanks for this info. I am starting to doubt the reliability of this vehicle, despite its sterling reputation. Just dumped 3 grand into timing belt, water pump and radiator, another grand into front axle, and now this headache. Comparing my Chevy - same age and mileage, I haven't had to spend nearly the money to keep it roadworthy. Toyota needs to start remanufacturing these fuse boxes and offer them to their loyal customers for almost free. No-start out on a back road is definitely a "fatal flaw."
I agree, they should do a recall on these, doubt it will happen tho. As far as reliability goes, they are great, it just requires a lot of maintenance and it’s not cheap
Toyota / Lexus REALLY needs to do a recall on this fuse /EFI circuit issue. Less of their customers would end up stranded. Really glad for this vid though
They would if it were the 200, but not for the 20 year old 100 😢
Thank you for posting. Once again, I'm here due to the fact that my 100 series came home today the back of a tow truck. However, mine is the 6 cylinder turbo diesel. Replaced the injector pump 35,000kms and two years ago. After googling, i was directed to your site again. I hope it is a simple fix like you have done.... my poor old wallet would struggle to pay for another injector pump.....
You'll also notice the check engine light does not illuminate with the key on indicating no power to the ecu.
Thanks for the vid. Not sure I would have tried this without a tutorial. Just did it successfully. Took two hours.
Thank you for this video! I have been stranded twice now , and got home after waiting awhile, messing with the fuse, and replacing the alternator and battery. But I'm going to replace the fuse box like you did. You have no idea I really appreciate understanding what's really going with this issue! I was getting ready to do a part out until I realized there was a real fix. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Mine cranks fine and keeps cranking unless I remove the key completely from ignition do u think it’s the same Problem
This video continues to help the 100 series bois 🤘 thanks for the tip
Thanks for tip, I had the same issue. Ended up replacing fuse box as you did and voila -it worked.
THANKS FOR THIS !!!! MY IMMOBOLIZER STOPPED WORKING AND KEPT MY CAR FROM STARTING AND THE ISSUE WAS THE FAILED FUSE BLOCK - THE DEALERSHIP REPLACED IT - THEY LEFT THE R 1 AND R2 RELAYS IN THE OLD BLOCK AND WHEN I PICKED IT UP THE A/C LIGHT WAS FLASHING BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MAG CLUTCH RELAY - IF I DIDNT SEE THIS VIDEO THEY COULD HAVE TOLD ME I NEEDED A NEW COMPRESSOR OR MANY MORE EXPENSIVE A/C COMPONENTS - THANKS AGAIN !!!!
Glad it worked out!
You Sir ARE the man. Thank you for this video.
You’re welcome!
I just bought a 1999 Land cruiser that won't start everything else the previous owner replaced so this is the first thing I'm going to look at when I get at home
Good job. I have a '02 100 series... it cranks and no start. Usually after 2-3 attempts, then it starts.
I'll check your route out. Thanks
Great video. Thank you. Been chasing this too long!!
You can by-pass that fuse and install a new fuse and a relay to power the EFI circuit for less than $10. Google Crank and no Start Land Cruiser 100 series. I have the wiring setup just in case. But when you are ready, it won't happen! Thanks for the video!
Good to know! Hopefully it doesn’t happen
Mine is diesel. Start up fine when u drive for sometime and u stop it won’t start until it cools down. What will cause this. The longer u drive and u stop the long it will keep to start up fine
Would appreciate a link to the bypass if you have one. $500 for a problem that is likely to recur again and totally disable the vehicle is driving me nuts.
Can i also get this please
Link please! Thank you!
i have a 99 land cruiser, the only thing that i know about as far as parts failing before 100.000 miles on the 100 series is the fuse box and starter, i have 154.000 miles on mine and so far luckily no fuse box or starter problems, i hope i didn’t just jinx my truck !!! lol
Yea I’m dreading when I have to do the starter, it’s a lot of work. Fuse box isn’t too bad, just expensive!
Thanks for the write up. But it is missing few details. To take out the clips under the fuse box is one of most frustrating things I ever done. I mean I done starter job s2000 before which I thought was ridiculous. But this … dude it’s pretty up there
It’s not the easiest, but if you take your time with every clip, it’s not too bad
@@chowcares thanks man. I am taking my time.
Man thanks so much for this video. My land cruiser started about two month ago where suddenly it wouldn’t start. I even took it to a toyota dealership and they said everything was fine. I saw this video and shacked the efi fuse a little bit and it turned on! Now the issue seems to find a new fuse box! Where could I buy one?
You’re welcome. You can try the dealer to see if they have any left, also I hear eBay might have some new ones floating around
my LX is not starting too and having really hard time... I just subscribed, like your videos. will watch your videos fully
Thanks for the support. Easiest thing to try is wiggling/changing out the efi 20amp fuse under the hood. If it starts then u most likely have to replace the fuse box
@@chowcares I saw that video too. yes, i changed efi fuse but still same....
평민LA check spark, and fuel. If both are present you should get it to fire
chowcares i will replace spark plug this sunday. Fuel is half.
This explains whats been going on. Thank
You.
You’re welcome
Awesome impressive will just modify the fuel injection fuse by a extension , THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO !!!!
I'm gonna try to cut a hole in the side of the fuse box and see if I can tighten that sleeve piece 1st...amazing stuff! Tx Chow.
I also thought about this punching ahole in the side thing. I decided after watching the video and understanding how the box is manufactured, that I would try and break away the guard plastic around that fuse, then I pulled the sleve connector out the top. Did some work on the sleve, and reinstalled the sleves and fuse. It works now. $800 for a new fuse box to fix a little loose connecter is crazy.
This is what i was thinking also. I'm going to give it a try. @@danagillam
@@tynado1173 Good luck, worked for me. I broke off that fuse guard that sticks up, then did a bit of drill, cut, etc to get to that sleve. FYI: if this is the problem you will probably noitice some discoloration or melting of plastic part of the fuse. My son has a similar vehical, and we did the same thing to fix his. After getting the sleve out I just cleaned it up (scraped it with a pointy exacto blade) and did dome micro-surgery to get it bent so that it woudl squeze tighter on the prongs.
@@danagillam I appreciate the tips. I haven't seen any clear indication of melting or looseness. Too bad I can't really get into it to verify before I get into modifying it. Feeling confident this is my issue.
I'll report back.
@@tynado1173 If wiggling the fuse fixes the no start, then that proves it is the issue. As it getts loser and loser (from wiggling, then you get arching and heat)
Check your fuel pump as well...same symptoms are present on a slowly dying fuel pump.
Great video, tried the Amazon link for the fuse box and came up out of stock. Looked everywhere and not coming up with much. Any suggestions? Thx
Love your videos. Just starting to have this problem on my 2002 LC (275,000 miles). Can’t find a new fuse box anywhere but will keep looking. I’m considering using carbon conducive grease (MG Chemicals #846) on the fuse to see if it helps. Any thoughts or ideas on using carbon conductive grease? Thanks, keep the videos coming.
It might help, if you watched till the end, I opened up the fuse box and u can see the contacts were loosening on the bottom side, not the fuse side. If u can get in in there it might work, good luck!
Chow thank you for making this video I just bought me one January for 2021 I found off Vender that still had 10 I believe on eBay
Nice! Congrats on the purchase, I hope you’ll enjoy the land cruiser as much as I do!
Hey Roman. Could you possibly send me a link to the vendor on ebay?
Yeah great video & I got same problem with my 100series petrol, it cranks but won't start I've been experiencing that my vehicle was stalling for the last month....& Now it's not starting....
Sounds like it!
Yeah but I've ordered new fuse box....coming in next week. & See how I go ?
Hey mate.... I've replaced my new fuse box & check engine light is still not working???
Thumbs up as always! Extra thanks for the Mario theme effects!!!
Lol someone finally noticed, if this video gets deleted you’ll know why 🤣🤣🤣
@chowcares: nah, you should be fine. I think you’ve used it in your other videos, no? Or did those get deleted? Let’s hope not! Stay well! Your subscriber and a GX470 owner.
Hahah...Van Pebbles?
I think he must mean...
"Montaged Digital Music Approved For Appealing Generic Plumber Experiences Non-techno Information Systems."
I´m doing this on a 2002 Lx 470 at 87000 miles. That same fuseholder melted and crank but no start. . I´m in costa rica and have the fuse box and cover on order. The parts guy at the dealership says it will come with fuses but not relays. Should I spray the old relays with wd40 or silicon lube to make them easier to remove? For awhile I was able to jump that fuseholder base (there were two little prongs sticking out) with clips to a fuseholder with wire pigtail and fuse. Then that failed to work. This darn part, (fusebox) costs almost $1000 and takes a month to come from the US. If it´s such a problem why doesn´t the dealer here have them in stock? They even deny that it´s a problem (BS). Thanks for the video, very helpful.
My fuse box came with all fuses and some relays. The ones that don’t come with the new box, just reuse your old ones. I wouldn’t recommend spraying any type of line on the relays, it’s not necessary. Idk why Toyota doesn’t stock them anymore, I guess it’s such an expensive part for an old car they don’t bother.
NIcely done dude! Good explanation on what you were experiencing since everyone seems to have slightly different issues. Cost of the fuse box is $400+ right?
Yup, $400+
Is it true they're discontinuing them? Expect the junkyards to start filling up with LC's that don't even have 300k miles on them.
@@ddmercantile they discontinued mine but I’ve been running a bypass for months but finally ordered my box which is discontinued but after some homework there’s a different part number that’ll work on my 98
Thanks for another solid video @chowcares. Cool to see the old one tore apart. Can you help me with....1) is swapping out the EFI relay a good idea just for cheap preventive or is the problem more due to the fuse block ...and 2) do you recall if there was a little rubber seal around the edge of the top cover ? I was inspecting mine and it's either packed in dirt or a really dried up seal
My 2002 LX470 just started the crank but no start symptom. Went to Toyota and the service guy said the part is discontinued and nothing in stock or in transit.
I'm either gonna clean it real good and recondition it, or try and source one from somewhere.
Chow your videos are awesome! Keep up the good work my man!
Thanks!!
Thanks for the video, but after I replace the fuse box, I was able to start my car again. But however all the light on dash start to piping out, is that a sign that I didn’t do a good job on connecting all the clips?
My Land Cruiser shuts off when im at a red light or driving sometimes on the road. Then it struggles to start. I changed the fuel pump and battery. Im going to try this hopefully this works because im running out of ideas.
Hi, where is LC 100 windows fuse or relay located?
Such great information! Do you know where I can get a new box for my LX470? I’m having a heck of a time finding one.
Great video! I have essentially watched all your 100 series video more than once. Thank you! After using the immobilized bypass for more than a year, I was inspired by this video and started the fuse box replacement. But, I got to your 5:40 video and unplugged a few wire clips. Then, I got stuck and have to take a break. After removing the three clips in the front and the 8 mm and 10 mm screws, I am unable unclip the rest. And, I do not want to force any of the remaining clips in fear of damaging them. Any word of wisdom or instruction would be appreciated.
Thank you! Sometimes the plugs get stuck from being pulled when the tab isn’t pushed in all the way. Try pushing the plug all the way back in, squeezing the tab more, and pulling again. Usually works for me, good luck!
@@chowcares Thank you for your response! I am going to try it again tomorrow morning. Since we cannot flip the fuse box over I cannot get a clear view of the plugs to determine where to press on some of the plugs. I was afraid some of the clips may require additional steps after squeezing them.
Same exact fuse box as my 01 LX? I’m being told they are different by a parts dealer.
Could you just flow some solder on the fuse contacts to make it thicker?
Yeah I've heard this for 98-99 on the forums.
It’s horrible! I think they came with a larger fuse and wires, hopefully it’s enough for this to never happen!
Replaced the fuse box on my 99 landcruiser and now the headlights dont work, took the whole fuse box apart to make sure everything was connected. It is. All the fuses test positive with a fuse tester. Replaced the headlights and still no luck. Any advice?
Check the plugs on the bottom and make sure they’re plugs in secure. Test the headlight relay
Hi Chow, greetings from Sydney Australia,
I have the same problem 2000 4.5l petrol.
Stranded once towed 155ks.
Just pressing on the 20a efi fuse causing the motor to die.
Ordered new fuse box from UAE $724 AU dollars.
Thanks.
I c what u mean impossible to repair.
Cheers!
hi did your new fuse box fix your efi fuse issue i got the same problem with my landcruiser its also a 2000series 1fz
I have a 1999 470LX that was built 1/99 and so the fuse box used is part number 82720-60022. Models made in 1999 starting around 8/99 started using. Part number 82720-60023. There are literally NO 60022s left anywhere new or used. I can find plenty of the 60023s but all sites say that doesn’t work for the 1998 to mid 1999 470s. Do you know if that’s correct or would the 60023 work (or are other part numbers workable). Help!
Answered my own question. Not the bullet and purchased a brand new 60023 box as there are literally NO 60022’s available anywhere and took a chance installing the 60023. It works perfectly. No issues. Starts right up and all other electrical functions with the 1999 470 work fine. Just letting anyone else know as this Plan B does in fact work as replacement for the 60022 box……..well, it did for mine at least. Good luck!
Thank u for this. I think mine problem is with the fuel, but then again our trucks are that the age of replacing & refreshing some things or most.
Ill probably replace my fuel pump and filter to get a tiny bit more mileage nd maybe it will fix my issue. If. Not ill have to do that efi fuse paper clip trick. Then onto replacing entire fuse box ..etc
Thanks for your help but I have a question about the front diferential make a noise do u know something about that if yo u have some answers I ll appreciate
Where did you get the fuse box?
Desperate Plea For Assistance Or Advice regarding this issue on my beloved 1999 Lexus LX470.
1. It's started to have intermittent issue of shutting off when at idle and failing to restart, also failing to restart if shut off until one two hours have passed.
2. It has always started when cold and starting fluid has always made it start if failed to start regularly.
3. Replaced ECM module, mass air sensor, fuel filter, 1 oxygen sensor, fuel pump in tank.
4. I have no error codes showing on scanner, see no corrosion or issues with fuse boxes or modules. Runs strong, smooth idle, good mileage.
ANY IDEAS OR ADVICE FROM THOSE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED! Thanks, Shane.
There’s a “jumper relay” posted on ih8mud that u can try. It replaces the efi relay fuse. If that fixes your problem, it’s most likely your fuse box which it sounds like it is
@@chowcares Even though I dont see any kind of corrosion or signs of heat damage on my fuse box? What throws me the most is if its electrical how can the use of starter fluid into the throttle body overcome it? I'm not doubting you as Im certain you're much more knowledge than I am on these thing just trying to understand the diagnosis. I've watched all your videos on the 100 series and I replaced the ECM module first thing when it started this and ill do the fuse box now if that's what it needs just dont see anything that looks at all damaged or badly aged on mine. I live in upstate SC and this has always been local vehicle and not used in mud (or red clay as we have round here).
@@r.shanethompson7933 electrical issues are the most difficult to diagnose. Starter fluid shouldn’t affect the starting but it also could just be a coincidence. The jumper method is a a cheap way to test if the fuse box needs replacing
@@chowcares thank you so much for the replies. Do you have a patreon sign up? I've had to use the starter fluid 6-7 times (min.) as the problem slowly became more frequent. I stopped driving it two weeks ago as the problem became unbearable. It never shut off at all when driving unless completely off the throttle or stopped at idle. It's now almost time able in that I can start it up in the driveway and let it idle and it'll shut off at 8-10 minutes 90% of the time. I'm going to get the parts to make the jumper here in a bit but let me ask you what is the "chassis fuel pump" and could that be where its coming from?
The 4th pipe at the bottom @3:59 where does it go ?
It crank but no start, I just got oils change from Walmart and they parked it at parking lot after when I try it to start it’s just crank but not start. I also see that there is no engine light when I turn key, I love this truck only have 127k on it been with me over 22 years now don’t want to get rid of, I need you to help me to resolve this issue please.
Do you know what color is that efi wire so I can put a external fuse straight to the wire . I need this to move the car to the back so I can get it ready to work on it .
I'm having this issue. I put in a new fuse - get the 'check engine' light. But it won't start. Is there something in the diagnosis I'm missing? Thanks for this great video.
Do u have a code reader? What codes are u getting? Mine never threw a check engine light, but might be because mine is old (1999)
@@chowcares I will check with my code reader thank you.
Hey. I’m changing the fuse box and can’t get the connectors off. Only two had tabs. How did you get the others off? They won’t pull down.?
From what I remember they’re all tabs. For the ones that are stuck, try to push them back into the fuse box, squeeze the tab, and pull out again. Usually that works
@@chowcares Thx, Chow! I was able to get them off with a flat head screwdriver. After I installed it the vehicle started right up and sounded really good. Merry Christmas!
Jesse J glad to hear everything worked out! Merry Xmas!!
Hi, I have the same problem but do you think before eliminating other possibilities should go and change the box.
Uuggghhh, I just got mine replaced.
Also, any videos on tune-ups????
Tons! Check out my other vids
hello brother how are you
outside temperature change fahrenheit to celsius lexus LX470 2000 or toyota land cruiser 2000
Can this cause stalling issues at higher speeds? I'm having a similar rough start and have gone through all air and fuel components. When I go WOT at really any speed I stall out and then it goes back to normal the second I let off the gas.
Before replacing this, I never experienced stalling out, but in theory it could cause it to do that. An easy way to tell is take out the efi fuse and look at the prongs with a flash light, if there is any signs of burnt, discoloration, or deformation, it’s probably your problem
Great video! Roughly how much was the new fuse box? (Cost)
From what I remember it was around $500 from Toyota
Hey Chow, what were your symptoms of the failed starts? I seem to have a similar issue: starts then dies; almost like there's no gas. What seems to work for me is pulling the EFI fuse, then reconnecting, and starts right up. Is this what you experienced too? Thanks in advance.
Mine was more not starting. It only stalled a few times when it was running. Since the new fuse box, I can happily say it has never happened
@@chowcares I might have to look into the fuse box soon. Just spent a pretty penny on the master cylinder, let's just hope truck starts until I get paid again. Keep up the awesome content!!
Yeah this exactly happened to me. My car randomly shut down lost all power. Managed to coast into a parking lot . Got it towed to mechanic to change the alternator.
Cuz before this. I was having trouble starting my car so i figured it was just a bad battery, replaced the battery and was running like a dream for months until this week.
Changed the alternator and no fix..
But i was also having issues with the fuel level not reading properly shortly before this, would say im empty when full tank. Go back to normal..etc say im burning more fuel than usual but nxt day back to normal lol
Ok, so I’m having the crank no start, tried different fuses, nothing.....immobilizer light blinking, tried hooking up my scanguage up and it gets power from the Obd2 but will not connect.....any thoughts? Did you see this scanguage connectivity issue as well?
My cheapo obd scanner connected, but did not have any codes. Mine is a 99 tho, yours is maybe newer? There is a way to bypass the immobilizer, search on ih8mud. You basically power it directly or something like that. I’ve never tried it so please be careful.
chowcares I tries the bypass and it worked, so I purchased the heavy duty bypass kit from Medtro. Thanks for your great videos.
Other than the EFI Fuse, was there any other connections that seems loose as well? Is it all the fuse box circuitry or is this just EFI fuse specific??
Seemed like just the efi fuse.
Hello friend, I have 2000 LX470. Do you know where I can a new fuse box online or anywhere?
I have a 1998 LC without the rear air option. Do you know if I can use the part number you listed? The fuse box for my VIN is no longer available (82720-60020) for purchase?
Oooo that’s a tough one, I’m not sure. You might have to compare side by side
Thanks bro!
Where did you get this fuse box
Where did u get the fuse box, and how much?
I’ve been getting a crankshaft code. Is this related?
Too bad you did not share how to remove those original fuses.
Is this specific to earlier year 100's?
As I asked in other related video, Why wouldn't the new fuse box do the same thing if it is not redisigned from the factory. I think the most financially efficient option for the future is the create a bypass like has been done before that totally negates this issue with the faulty fuse box. This costs like nothing to make. Like this.....
forum.ih8mud.com/threads/my-immobilizer-fix.946305/
I mean if I get another 300k out of my new box I’ll be happy. Mine didn’t start f ing up until 290k. The bypass you speak of is clutch but I question it on long trips
I'm currently having an intermittent start issue too. Any way to help identify if it's either the Fuse box or the starter?
Wiggle your efi relay and fuse different ways, if you get a start then it’s your box. You can make a bypass out of a auto store relay that’ll work for a while. Been running mine for months but finally ordered a new box
how many miles do you have on your 100 ?
Just hit 200k
Were you having any issues with the LC dying after you're already driving? I'm not having a no-start issue... it's going down the road at 35 mph and all of a sudden everything dies. Battery, check engine, and AT Oil Temp light come on. Usually if I put it into park, turn key to off, and restart it starts up just fine. Wondering if I'm having the same issue with the EFI fuse connection... 243,xxx miles on my 2000 LC.
Mine wasn’t dying randomly like that, just wouldn’t start. But if I had it running and pulled the efi fuse, it would shut off. Soooo.... maybe..?
Gray Hair Gaming have you figure it out? I'm having the same issue. ThankS
@@chouathao6560 Yes! Apparently when the timing belt was done last (prior to my ownership) the wiring loom for the crank position sensor and oil sending unit were incorrectly routed. They didn't put it back behind one of the brackets and it led to the loom being rubbed on by the serpentine belt, rubbed through the loom, and into the wires. So it would make sense that it would short out -- killing the signal from the crank position sensor -- which stalled the car, which stopped the belt, which pulled it away from the wire, which would allow for restart... rinse and repeat. Had to pull it out, splice in replacement wire, and the most fun part... snaking it down the correct way without taking the front of the engine off to reconnect it correctly. Crossing my fingers it has been working since then.
@@GrayHairGaming Thanks for the reply. I'm glad you have figure out your problem. As for me I had to drop $$ on a new fuse box. It has been two weeks since I installed the new fuse box, and it haven't stall out on me. Fingers crossed!
@@chouathao6560 Let me know if that changes! Hopefully not since you dropped the coin on it!
priceless
FUCK! I started watching to see HOW do I get a relay out, you skipped it. I pull on my relay (starter one, cause I have dead silence from my LC when turn the key) I was pulling on that relay hard, I tried pliers ... and nothing. There has to be a trick, and there is NOTHING on the internet. I am wasting hours upon hours of my time on this fucking non start issue (of the legnedarely relayable vehicle, that just got me stranded for fifth time) that I am ready to send it off a cliff and buy a fucking lada niva or shit like that. Everything is simple there.