FS2020 | Working Title CJ4 Mod v0.8.0 Demo Flight | CJ4

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024

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  • @global.gentleman
    @global.gentleman 3 роки тому +10

    Thank you for the detailed overview of this really significant update, and showing how to put it into a flight scenario!! Please keep up the great videos, much appreciated! All the best!

  • @Pierorocks
    @Pierorocks 3 роки тому +13

    Finally a working VNAV!! I don't even mind having to do throttle control myself, makes it more fun anyways. Amazing work truly!

    • @evidenceplz
      @evidenceplz 3 роки тому +2

      I'm sure you are aware that real cj4 doesn't have auto-throttle, right?

  • @ups-pn3ph
    @ups-pn3ph 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this. Solid tutorial and enjoyable flight.

  • @ken4877
    @ken4877 3 роки тому +5

    Very nice, thank you! Love this mod, it's all I fly now.

  • @Aleksandar6ix
    @Aleksandar6ix 3 роки тому +1

    Using VS to help control your climb with manual throttle isn't bad if you've got an upcoming altitude restriction especially at high climb performance.....but IMO, not the best choice if you're in a high workload environment. Manage Vspeed AND throttle.....or just set FLC to your restriction so you can manage throttle only as you arrive to altitude. Both work. What I have been taught by other pilots is FLC for climbs (stall protection, less workload) and VSpeed for descents (descent planning control and non-pressurized aircraft descent rate). If it's anything like the S550, 180 knots for the climb is ideal, and would offer plenty of room for overshoot on throttle control. (ref: V1-Simulations)

  • @darengardner6219
    @darengardner6219 3 роки тому

    Wow this is amazing . I havent flown a single jet since release because I havent got my bravo throttle delivered yet . I wanted to have decent equipment before starting with jets and give mods like this time to develop . Brilliant work .

  • @scootermason2746
    @scootermason2746 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent job I’m going to get this mod. One tiny suggestion from an IFR pilot would be to adjust your Heading bug on runway headings on Take off and Approach as well as every phase of flight for radar vectors or loss of Autopilot and unanticipated corse deviations from ATC. But excellent job!

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Thanks! I'll be sure to work that into my routine from now on. I'm actually (fingers crossed) hoping to start IFR training next year if all goes well.

    • @scootermason2746
      @scootermason2746 3 роки тому

      Yes that is one thing you do during training it helps you fly the heading. You won’t be using auto pilot during training so the helps keep you tracking on course during the Six Pack Scan. Especially during holds and LOC ILS approach and if you have to add wind correction.

  • @DiggyPowell
    @DiggyPowell 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to give this a shot!

  • @psarkoteck
    @psarkoteck 3 роки тому +2

    Wow your are the same men who did the zibo love you ! Thx bro !!

    • @evidenceplz
      @evidenceplz 3 роки тому

      what do you mean?

    • @psarkoteck
      @psarkoteck 3 роки тому

      @@evidenceplz zibo is a mod for the 737 in xp11 who improved the original 737 and it’s awesome

  • @nickklein6678
    @nickklein6678 3 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic work, thanks for the guide! My favorite plane for MSFS2020!

  • @cayenne7792
    @cayenne7792 3 роки тому

    I think I'm gunna stick with the Aerolite 103 thank you! : ) Thanks for your hard work, very concise and easy to understand. nice bump tunes too! So you a big fan of Jazz?

  • @weepingeye
    @weepingeye 3 роки тому

    Fantastic! I've only flown the default version and even then only once. Will get this mod and replicate flight (try) and see how I go. Thanks again, great vid.

  • @CCitis
    @CCitis 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, learned alot. Your PhotoGrammetry looks so much better than mine. What are your internet specs? Wired or Wireless? MBPS?

  • @kitstter
    @kitstter 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this video! I am a complete novice but that this was incredibly useful and informative. I've replicated this flight and then it's been an invaluable reference and template when I put together a couple of other flight plans.

  • @andrewbennett2582
    @andrewbennett2582 3 роки тому

    Hey great video, I also love flying the CJ4 mod.
    I’m just wondering if you use any NVidia Filters in GeForce?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Not running any GeForce filters, at least none that I’m aware of.

    • @andrewbennett2582
      @andrewbennett2582 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Damn ok haha, I thought that was going to be the magic trick. Your colours seem so vibrant compared to mine!

  • @cabsy05
    @cabsy05 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Are you planning to update G1000 and G3000 also with the VNAV functionality?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      I'm not a dev but I know they said they hope to carry it over to the Garmin planes in the next month or two. It should be pretty exciting when they get it all sorted out.

  • @tiberius8390
    @tiberius8390 3 роки тому

    Wow, this is amazing. Thumps up!

  • @chrisadish
    @chrisadish 3 роки тому

    Hey windover, thanks for the lovely update and your second livery! I got the last one you did and I still use it- your red and black paint scheme. This one looks just as good.netjets livery if you have the chance to repaint please, no rush! Loving your update and paints. Thats all I've been flying now. Haven't touched the a 320 or longitude since!!

  • @michaelwilliamson6061
    @michaelwilliamson6061 3 роки тому

    Thanks, great video. Very much appreciated.

  • @grillodon
    @grillodon 3 роки тому +1

    A question. Why do you set the 2,000 VS before the takeoff, if you activate the AP and switch immediately to VNAV after takeoff?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      The CJ4 VNAV system really only captures AT or BELOW constraints on departures. It won’t climb on its own like other types of VNAV systems so you need a way to tell it to climb. I chose a low VS initially because the plane was going to level off pretty quickly at 5,000ft and VS gives you a bit more control over the pitch of the plane when it captures the constraint. You don’t want it to capture a 5,000ft constraint while you’re at climb thrust doing 5,000 fpm ;) You could also have done it in FLC, it’s really just a matter of personal preference.

    • @grillodon
      @grillodon 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 uh! So the VS is indipendent of the AP? Because the AP switching is subsequent.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      @@grillodon Nah, I was just trying to say that I wanted to capture 5000ft at a shallow angle so the transition wasn't so abrupt. So I set a low VS and managed the throttle so the plane entered the 5,000ft constraint at 5° nose up instead of 15°. VS works the same as everything else. The plane will kick you out of VS when you capture an altitude.

  • @mikebakkeyt
    @mikebakkeyt 3 роки тому

    Very helpful video thanks! To be honest, still confused about the interaction between LNAV and VNAV. At one point it looked like VNAV was managing the descent but on the PFD, LNAV was indicated.... You had LNAV preselected on the ground with VS and the target TOC altitude. Once climbing you engaged VNAV I think - once you did that is it "armed" until explicitly disabled or does it disengage when it reaches a constraint?
    Sorry - dumb questions but it's a lot to process :-)
    I will re-watch and do some test flights when the mod is updated for latest patch.
    Thanks again.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! LNAV only controls lateral navigation i.e. tracks the flight plan route. VNAV only controls the vertical navigation which would be the altitude constraints in the LEGS page. VNAV never disengages unless you actually press the button again. So you're correct, it essentially remains armed (after departure) until it sees an altitude constraint in the LEGS page at which point it begins to navigate it's own path down to the last altitude in the flight plan which is almost always 50ft above the runway threshold.

    • @mikebakkeyt
      @mikebakkeyt 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 great thank you. So.... How do I handle the following: I enter a plan with departure and arrival constraints, say 5000 on departure and cruise set on alt select to 42k. I take off and begin climbing with vs until 5k. All clear I think. On arrival at 5k wp, atc clear me to 7k which is not a set constraint. It seems I have 2 choices, change alt select or add a constraint for 7k to the current leg. What would you do?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      mikebakkeyt If it’s ATC assigned altitudes I would just use the preselector. In real life they would tell you what altitude to expect while getting your clearance and you would just set the altitude preselector to that. I just set it to cruise because I don’t use any ATC so I climb however I want.

  • @davidlambert8368
    @davidlambert8368 3 роки тому

    Video made me realise how I was doing things wrong. Very helpful, thanks.
    Possible bugs: I have trouble with LNAV consistently overshooting the turns when the turn is >90 degrees (flying the other side of the planet to the US), and also heading oscillates between two headings when flying a route with waypoints several hundred miles apart, with the two headings bounced between having a difference of around 2 degrees.
    A couple of things to maybe put on the list of bits to address:
    I fly hPa when over the European continent but hPa isn't sticky, so I have to select hPa each time I start up.
    The backup artificial horizon stays in IN setting even if the main FMC is set to hPa and the Imperial/Metric is set to Metric. I haven't found how to get the backup AH to be in hPa.
    When in hPa mode, the QNH adjustment has three/sometimes four notches where the same QNH is displayed but the resulting altitude varies by a bit depending on which end of the "slack" one sets the QNH. Apart from adding a decimal part of the QNH so one can get it close to the actual I can't think of a way around this, but thought I'd mention it in case you have any thoughts.
    Love the improvements your mod makes! Apologies if this isn't the place to post observations, I couldn't be sure of where I should be posting them.
    Thanks for the really amazing hard work!

    • @davidlambert8368
      @davidlambert8368 3 роки тому

      Sorry about the misuse of acronyms. I meant the PFD when I was talking about selecting hPa for QNH. I'm sure you realised what I meant. At least it was marginally a bit better than referring to the clicky thing above the pilot's television lol. Just gone through the video again making notes as a guide. I was definitely doing things a bit wrong. I'll see if doing things as expected helps :) Have a great and safe Christmas break. All the best.

  • @jxk4500
    @jxk4500 3 роки тому

    Great Stuff, thanks alot! So if I understand correctly, the LNAV button is only engaged before TOD or already on takeoff?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +2

      LNAV is engaged whenever you want the plane to follow an FMS route. I arm it on the ground because I usually want to follow the flight plan immediately after takeoff. VNAV is usually only used for descents but can be engaged at pretty much any point before TOD. As long as you don't have an AT or BELOW constraint on your departure you can theoretically just engage VNAV before takeoff and it won't do anything until TOD.

    • @chlindh1
      @chlindh1 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Great guide! Can't wait to try out this update.

  • @theonefrancis696
    @theonefrancis696 3 роки тому +1

    Do you happen to experience random CTDs in this version? I do a lot :(

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      I've experienced 1 and it was a result of me intentionally trying to force a CTD for QA reasons.

  • @Keraau
    @Keraau 3 роки тому

    I noticed some flickering on the top left area of the window during the first minute. Is that an MSFS glitch, your graphics settings or is it some issue with the mod?
    This is an amazing mod and I really like your content by the way. Great stuff. You have my sub, but you deserve more.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I think it's just YT doing a bad job dealing with the shadows. Looks a lot better in the rendered video on my PC.

    • @Keraau
      @Keraau 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Thanks for your prompt response! It totally makes sense. YT does use some custom algorithm (with demonstrated flaws) to compress their vids. Cheers mate. I'll force my friends who are into flight sim to sub (that's all I can do I'm quite broke 😅).

  • @beinitial9900
    @beinitial9900 3 роки тому

    Is FS2020 worth the jump from X-plane11? Which would mean building an entirely new setup for this simulator (since I'm running on a mac).

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      I never actually bought XP11 so I am pretty biased towards FS2020 haha
      But I think it comes down to what you prefer flying. If you are big into PMDG and study-level airline stuff definitely stick to X-plane. It will be a while for those models to reach FS2020. But if you're more a fan of GA flying and private jets then I would definitely suggest FS2020. The global scenery is amazingly well crafted and there is now a lot of support for 3rd party tools like VATSIM, ONAIR etc.

    • @beinitial9900
      @beinitial9900 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Thanks for the reply my man. I'm not sure I care about what I'm flying as long as there's an extreme level of detail and realism in the avionics, control and also the scenery. The ATC in X-Plane is also so atrocious. And it takes a lot of $$ to get X-Plane to look good and keep frame rates at a decent pace. I'm never just sitting down to start the simulator - I'm always updating, making sure a scenery loads properly, adjusting weather for frame rates....

    • @guitarstuffs1236
      @guitarstuffs1236 3 роки тому

      @@beinitial9900 I’d say go for MSFS. Working Title has created a nice CJ4, Aerosoft is going to release their CRJ soon, and FlyByWire is updating their A32NX daily. I had X-Plane, and it was great, but you can’t beat the MSFS graphics.

    • @beinitial9900
      @beinitial9900 3 роки тому +1

      @@guitarstuffs1236 Thanks for the info! I guess I'll have to build a PC.

  • @somil07
    @somil07 3 роки тому

    Do you have to manage the throttle manually while cruising?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Yup. CJ4 doesn't have an autothrottle.

  • @fsxmd90
    @fsxmd90 3 роки тому +1

    thx for this video love them bro

  • @pastorhaze9509
    @pastorhaze9509 3 роки тому +1

    Where do I get the mod?

  • @RetiredFE
    @RetiredFE 3 роки тому

    Just wondering is it possible to load a flight plan from Little Nav Map or does it have to be loaded manually.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      I actually don't know much about LNM but I do know for sure you can load in flights from SimBrief.

    • @RetiredFE
      @RetiredFE 3 роки тому +1

      @@windhover2021 Thank you. I'll give that a shot. BTW excellent video. Subscribed. Thanks

  • @lzylightnin
    @lzylightnin 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot, man. Can I bother you for your graphics settings? Your setup is not unlike mine and I'd like an idea of what you're working with here.
    Thanks again!
    Subbed!

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks! I'm running mostly default High with photogrametry enabled. I've turned off texture supersampling which saves like 5-10 fps and I think maybe turned down the range the game draws out scenery. But other than that it is mostly just stock High with Ultra clouds.

  • @michaelmcompton
    @michaelmcompton 3 роки тому

    Hello, this looks great, and seems to be getting rave reviews. I've downloaded and "installed" it, I think, but it doesn't show up in my available aircraft. I simply copied the unzipped workingtitle-aircraft-cj4 folder to my Community folder, but can't find the plane. Or does it just modify the current CJ4? I'm sure this is User Error, but can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Correct, it modifies the existing CJ4.

    • @michaelmcompton
      @michaelmcompton 3 роки тому +1

      @@windhover2021 Thanks, just flew it JB Andrews to KJFK. Awesome! Great job!

    • @michaelmcompton
      @michaelmcompton 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Hello, this might be user error but I just flew 3 CJ4 flights, two with your mod and one without. The mod-less flight was logged correctly, but the flights with your mods recorded 00:00 flight time (they were each 45-50 minute flights). Thanks

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      Michael Compton That’s a known issue from prior builds that was fixed at some point but I guess it is back. If you wouldn’t mind filling out a bug report on the Github page that would help it not get lost.

    • @michaelmcompton
      @michaelmcompton 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 thanks, I will. Appreciate the prompt response.

  • @NovejSpeed3
    @NovejSpeed3 3 роки тому

    how do you get that pax window view? EDIT also where did you get that Livery in your thumbnail pic? Keep up the good work, thanks for the awesome posts!

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Thanks! I made the livery myself (link in description). The pax views were added by WT in this update and are in the Showcase camera mode under Fixed (like 5-12 I think).

    • @NovejSpeed3
      @NovejSpeed3 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 WOW I never realized there was a down arrow on your descriptions sections showing there was more. My apologies. Fantastic work sir!

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      @@NovejSpeed3 haha no worries ;)

  • @scottallen8950
    @scottallen8950 3 роки тому

    Is there a way to use a flight plan but still have ATC follow you the whole way and guide you to with different controllers?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      I want to say in IDX -> Mod Set there is an option to link the flight plan to the ATC system. It’s experimental right now because syncing the new flight plan manager to the in game ATC was not a high priority for the initial release. It is planned to be fixed in upcoming updates.

  • @PeterMatthess
    @PeterMatthess 3 роки тому

    I got an instance crash to desktop when turning on wing and tail anti-ice, is this a thing?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      There've been reports of CTDs but they are all different and (mostly) not reproducible so it is potentially a hardware issue or mod conflict. If it can can be reproduced (without any other mods running) feel free to use the WT Github issue tracker.

  • @elo.g1184
    @elo.g1184 3 роки тому

    3:05 how are you finding all those information ? Are you using a special website ?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      I mostly fly in the US so I use Airnav and Skyvector. For international charts most people use Navigraph however it is a paid monthly subscription.

    • @elo.g1184
      @elo.g1184 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 thanks a lot

  • @duckkiller53
    @duckkiller53 3 роки тому

    Dumb question, but everyone seems to fly through the FMS changes and upgrades but no one actually takes the time to explain how to use the FMS for newbs. Would anyone have suggestions for learning to use a program the FMS.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      I have this video (ua-cam.com/video/Xwqtbe9Pigo/v-deo.html&t) where I cover most of the functions you would need for a flight. The rest are just supplementary like PROG which shows winds aloft and leg times or ARR DATA which gives some info on the selected arrival. A good thing to note is that any feature greyed out means it is not functional so don't worry those. Best thing to do is just play around with it on a flight and see what every page does (that's how I learned it ;)

  • @gettodachopper
    @gettodachopper 3 роки тому

    When i fly this plane the engines are shutting down from one moment to the next. What can that be? For examle When i start with an approach to land.

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      Most common reason is that the game uses the same keybind for mixture as it does for the RUN/STOP button in the CJ4. I would check for any keybinds linked to the mixture.

    • @gettodachopper
      @gettodachopper 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 I will have a look thx. EDIT: No there is only a mixture for my Yoke. Not on the keyboard. But it happens also when i start directly in the approach.

  • @kevykevTPA
    @kevykevTPA 3 роки тому

    How in the heck are you doing the altitude preselect changes so fast??

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому +1

      I have the knob bound to a hat switch my joystick. Turning the knob in the cockpit with the mouse wheel takes a lifetime and gets really irritating in turbulance haha

    • @kevykevTPA
      @kevykevTPA 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 Unfortunately, I have no such knob. I've been wondering if it's possible to bind it to a keyboard button, but haven't really looked into it deeply enough to know if that's possible, and if it is, how to do it.
      But you're definitely right about it taking a lifetime. I wish it had some way to switch to thousands instead of hundreds, but I'm a realism fanatic, and if that's not in the real aircraft, I don't want it put in the sim no matter how helpful it might be.

  • @johnathandoe9346
    @johnathandoe9346 3 роки тому

    every time I manually try to program the FMC my route erase.

  • @morgangowen958
    @morgangowen958 3 роки тому

    Hi, does anyone know what's the easiest way to find the windspeed and direction for the runway's?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      For departure's you can open IDX --> PROG --> Page 2 to see the current winds. For landings, you can use the in-game ATIS/AWOS/etc or use something like Skyvector for current real-world winds which may or may not be the same in-game.

    • @morgangowen958
      @morgangowen958 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 That’s great thanks , really found your video helpfull, subbed

  • @fqis100
    @fqis100 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much !!

  • @ThatCanadianGuy-e1p
    @ThatCanadianGuy-e1p 3 роки тому

    Does this mod not work with the asobo flight planner?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Yes and no. The in-game flight planner in the main menu will still work like usual but there have been some very rare and hard to track crashes to desktop when using it with the mod. Good thing is that they are all reported to happen at takeoff or right after so you wouldn’t lose much progress and they are pretty uncommon.

    • @ThatCanadianGuy-e1p
      @ThatCanadianGuy-e1p 3 роки тому +1

      @@windhover2021 I see, the reason I asked I flew a couple of flights with this mod and the asobo flight planner, and near the airport the plane broke course with the gps magenta line. That doesn't happen without the mod, so I thought there might be a conflict between the mod and the flight planner, and I'd have to set up a flight in the cockpit. I never got a crash to desktop with the mod.

    • @horatioh5469
      @horatioh5469 3 роки тому

      @@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p I noticed exactly the same behaviour.

  • @johnglubney3228
    @johnglubney3228 3 роки тому

    Can you switch from cockpit to wingview with one key?

    • @windhover2021
      @windhover2021  3 роки тому

      Yeah, I think you can do it with saved views. Which reminds me, I need to figure out how those work.

    • @johnglubney3228
      @johnglubney3228 3 роки тому

      @@windhover2021 the person who designed the camera in MSFS2020 must be low functioning.

    • @carolebaskin138
      @carolebaskin138 3 роки тому

      @@johnglubney3228 If you let me borrow your laptop ill show you.

    • @johnglubney3228
      @johnglubney3228 3 роки тому

      @@carolebaskin138 that Mayor Rudy guy has it..and he won't give it back. My favorite recipes are on that laptop from hell

  • @Frank-zl6zl
    @Frank-zl6zl 3 роки тому

    THANKS!

  • @Rhinozherous
    @Rhinozherous 3 роки тому

    Tailstrike :-)

  • @xitoroman
    @xitoroman 3 роки тому

    bro pls how can I save mfd presets?