DG21EJE Ambulance driver close pass of cyclist, Essex Police result; Course or Conditional Offer

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  • @trs4u
    @trs4u 2 місяці тому +3

    What course is offered to drivers in a case like this - an on-road cycling proficiency course? It should be!

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +4

      Some sort of driver awareness course. No idea what it's like, I've never been on one. When I drive I don't try to run people off the road.

    • @Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC
      @Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC 2 місяці тому +1

      It's called What's Driving Us.

  • @techgamer1597
    @techgamer1597 2 місяці тому +1

    just remember you lot dont need a license, mot, tax, insurance or even legal bike tyres to use these. Youre not the king of the road, and never will be

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      Just remember drivers and cyclists alike record dangerous behaviour and will report you. You are not above the law. Drive safe.

  • @doncastervrandvideo8956
    @doncastervrandvideo8956 2 місяці тому +3

    The best bit of tarmac i have seen in a long time, not a pot hole in sight and a double yellow line to plant your wheels between, the perfect distance from the kirb, oh, stop biting your nails, dirty habit, shows your nervousness off!

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      Riding between double yellows is far too close to the kerb, foolish advice. Best you do bikability training before dishing out dangerous advice.

    • @doncastervrandvideo8956
      @doncastervrandvideo8956 2 місяці тому

      @@makecyclingsafeagain6575 Better my advice than you being carried off inside that same ambulance, seems like your perched over your PC waiting to attack, I said you where nervous, should not post bad cycling footage, clearly you are not a skilled cyclist, I bet Psychologically your a pain to live with!

  • @markpaul1154
    @markpaul1154 2 місяці тому +1

    I have been a cyclist all my life, do you regard your manner of ridging as safe ? I would disagree, you are purposely putting yourself at risk.
    I wish you no malice so please take good advice, especially as the local NHS are an ambulance driver short, you are taking unnecessary risks with your life, this is not going to end well

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      I am cycling perfectly safely. Best you do your bikability training to update your knowledge. Hugging the kerb is dangerous and specifically advised against. I am 2 to 3 feet away from the kerb, a good secondary position. The driver drive dangerously and was quite rightly offered a driver improvement course.

    • @andrewatherton316
      @andrewatherton316 2 місяці тому +1

      The police made the assessment of poor driving not the cyclist. As a witness, the cyclist provide the evidence of poor driving. As an alternative to prosecution the driver was offered a course or a conditional offer. All drivers and road users in general must use the road safely.

  • @enfield7123
    @enfield7123 2 місяці тому +12

    Cyclist found something else to pick on

    • @insightphoto
      @insightphoto 2 місяці тому +2

      The ambulance was extremely close when they passed the cyclist! Are you saying this is NOT a danagerous manoeuvre?

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      The video shows a careless driver picking on a vulnerable road user. You anti cycling twonks are cry bullies.

    • @enfield7123
      @enfield7123 2 місяці тому

      @@insightphoto yes it was dangerous I wasn't say he 2as in the wrong

  • @user-uu8qx2yl6l
    @user-uu8qx2yl6l 2 місяці тому +9

    About 1958 in Essex you had to pass a cycling proficiency course to ride a bike to school. I Still remember you should just ride out enough to miss drain holes, not half way out in the road. Not causing problems for others. About time all cyclist should take a test too.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +7

      It's not 1958. Cycle training has changed. Best update your knowledge before dishing out advice. Try bikability for up to date cycle training.

    • @paul8161
      @paul8161 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@makecyclingsafeagain6575Well said 👏.

    • @owieprone
      @owieprone 2 місяці тому +4

      Back to the present... the highway code includes rules and guidelines for other road users (including cyclists) so all licenced drivers should be well aware of what is required by them in all situations. As a fair amount of other users are also drivers, they are in effect so tested and licenced. You may wish to throw out your 1958 version and get an updated version from this decade and read it - there have been many useful and much safer rules and guidelines introduced since you were in short trousers. I will also take this opportunity to remind you that 'road tax' hasn't been a thing since before 1958 - all tax payers whether they have a motor vehicle or not pay towards road maintenance - just in case that was your next discussion point.

    • @bustestlucloc4630
      @bustestlucloc4630 2 місяці тому +2

      @@owieprone A patronising reply to a fair comment isn't necessary. There was a lot more common sense around in 1958 and a lot less arrogance.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +1

      Relying on guidance from 1958 is the height of arrogance. Update your knowledge before commenting on such matters.

  • @mark22c
    @mark22c 2 місяці тому

    your way further out in a busy road than id be, you could have moved over a bit

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +1

      I'm 2 or 3 feet from the kerb, a good secondary position. Essex Police were quite happy with my riding.

    • @mark22c
      @mark22c 2 місяці тому

      just seems a bit virtuous, i mean no one was hurt. @@makecyclingsafeagain6575

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      He isn't. Read the Highway Code for guidance.

  • @thomrhodes
    @thomrhodes 2 місяці тому +5

    Too far out. You should give way to the ambulance coming behind you… muppets everywhere. 😆

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +2

      That's not what the police said. I'm about 2-3 feet from the kerb, not far out at all. There's no requirement to give way to the rear and the ambulance was not on emergency call. If you feel strongly about this, please complain to Essex Police, they made the decision.

    • @thebrightsided136
      @thebrightsided136 2 місяці тому +2

      @@makecyclingsafeagain6575 Essex police lol they are a joke.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      No siren and no lights means no urgency. Treat as any other traffic. There is no need or requirement to pull over. Educate yourself.

  • @planetman1775
    @planetman1775 2 місяці тому

    this sucks for that paramedic.

  • @shooriematrosnick5505
    @shooriematrosnick5505 2 місяці тому +8

    yes too far out

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +3

      2 feet from kerb, no I'm not. Camera on right hand side of handle bars.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому

      Give your measurements, then read the Highway Code.

    • @andrewatherton316
      @andrewatherton316 2 місяці тому +2

      so you say and yet Essex Police thought otherwise.
      Not a good look siding with the road user judged by the Police and CPS as requiring either a course or conditional offer.

  • @bluecardholder
    @bluecardholder 2 місяці тому +8

    Bloody virtuous cyclists - you never report all the idiots in bikes jumping red lights, going through zebra crossings etc etc. Hope you never need an ambulance - the driver of that one has pribably been working a 12 hour shift and sone prick on a bike reports him.

    • @owieprone
      @owieprone 2 місяці тому +3

      yes we do.

    • @bustestlucloc4630
      @bustestlucloc4630 2 місяці тому

      @@owieprone You report idiots on bikes jumping red lights etc? Is that what you're saying?

    • @insightphoto
      @insightphoto 2 місяці тому +1

      Are you stupid? REALLY!
      The ambulance was extremely close when they passed the cyclist! Are you saying this is NOT a danagerous manoeuvre?

    • @BellowFind
      @BellowFind 2 місяці тому +1

      If they can't drive an ambulance safely after their 12 hour shift then they should not be driving.
      Traffic lights, zebra crossings, and any other form of road crossing is all there because of cars. None of this stuff would even exist if the majority cycled.
      "Hope you never need an ambulance". Grow up. Ironically more ambulances would be available if drivers actually drove properly and would stop injuring and killing people.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      Only a prick would defend dangerous drivers.

  • @paul8161
    @paul8161 2 місяці тому +5

    Lots of triggered car drivers on the moan.😂

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +1

      You're not wrong!

    • @bustestlucloc4630
      @bustestlucloc4630 2 місяці тому +2

      I'm a cyclist and this sort of petty behaviour by other cyclists really irritates me.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +1

      @bustestlucloc4630 dangerous driving irritates me.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому

      @@bustestlucloc4630 Dangerous passes are not petty. The Police deemed it bad, hence the censure.

    • @bustestlucloc4630
      @bustestlucloc4630 2 місяці тому

      @@user-fo9bv2mm1g The police are too woke and scared of extremist everything not to do something. Their agreeance is not the assurance it used to be.

  • @markpaul1154
    @markpaul1154 2 місяці тому

    ~@This 1.5m rules is not actually Law, its something made up out of fresh air.
    It needs challenging in court.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +1

      OK then. I've been to court before for someone who felt this way. It didn't end well for them.

    • @markpaul1154
      @markpaul1154 2 місяці тому

      @@makecyclingsafeagain6575As said it needs challenging, Magistrates dont have to follow the law and often dont, but appeal court judges do.
      As this 1.5m thing is not law, I would like to see how they decide when thats been used as evidence to prosecute people.
      Its a made up law that doesn't exists.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      OK well you can do this. Go pass a camera cyclist too close, get the letter from the police and ho through the court system to find out. Or you could just pass cyclists safely.

  • @metalman4141
    @metalman4141 2 місяці тому +14

    That’s because you are too far out

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +12

      I'm about 2 feet from the kerb. Essex Police were quite happy with me and took action against the driver, feel free to complain to them.

    • @Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC
      @Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@makecyclingsafeagain6575you must feel great penalising an ambulance driver!

    • @metalman4141
      @metalman4141 2 місяці тому

      @@makecyclingsafeagain6575 They have an important job to do you don’t

    • @metalman4141
      @metalman4141 2 місяці тому +4

      Typical cyclist it’s all about ME

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому +3

      Take it up with Essex Police.

  • @keithbaker8189
    @keithbaker8189 2 місяці тому +9

    why is it that cyclists are always targeting car / van drivers. Why can't they take control of their bike and stop complaining all the time. It's always someone elses fault. If you feel uncomfy cycling on the roads, don't. I bet if you cycle on the pavement like a lot of them do, do you have insurance to cover hitting a pedestrian. I bet not.

    • @paulgCCC
      @paulgCCC 2 місяці тому +4

      You forgot to mention "you don't pay road tax" and "you don't get fined for speeding" otherwise, it would have been the perfect "agnostic" response 🤔
      No doubt you also think the gap between the yellow lines is actually the cycle lane, and straying beyond that 100mm "boundary" entitles all other road users to run cyclists off the road???

    • @keithbaker8189
      @keithbaker8189 2 місяці тому +1

      @@paulgCCC I do hope you mean the cyclist when you talk about not paying road tax. I'm a cyclist but I don't put videos up on youtube every time someone cuts me up

    • @tony_w839
      @tony_w839 2 місяці тому +4

      if car and van drivers, drove with respect for the safety of other road users they would not have any worry about being reported for putting people at risk of injury.

    • @keithbaker8189
      @keithbaker8189 2 місяці тому +1

      @@tony_w839 I totally agree with you. I'm a cyclist, motorcyclist, van and car driver and also a pedestrian at times. But we all have to respect everyone using the road but we all make mistakes at times just like the ambulance driver here as I'm sure they didn't do that intentionally. We also have problems on the pavement where scooters and also cyclists need to respect the pedestrian.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      It is someone else's fault here - the ambulance driver, hence the censure. Are you suggesting the cyclist forced the driver to overtake rather than wait for 6 seconds? You're clueless and probably a dangerous driver.

  • @nakedenby
    @nakedenby 2 місяці тому +3

    Videos like this are very problematic. There's no detailed explanation of what is supposed to have occurred, any investigation or even what 'course or conditional offer' means. The cyclist expects viewers to assume that video is evidence enough but most people aren't that dumb and realise images don't tell the whole story. I find it hard to take this sort of social media righteousness seriously.
    On the face of the only information available, that doesn't appear to be a close pass. One can estimate distance from the standard dimensions of yellow lines but because of the poor camera positioning we have no reference for the road position of the cyclist. We have no idea what else was going on in that setting. We have no information from the driver's perspective eg what urgency was the journey, did they defend the 'incident' etc etc. Where's the corresponding video from the ambulance? You have the right to request that and I'm sure the police must have, but it ought to be published here to complete the picture. There's no balance in this post and police don't always make sensible decisions.
    So maybe the ambulance was in the wrong, maybe not, maybe the cyclist is just being an arse, who the hell knows as the standard of amateur journalism is so poor. I'm a cyclist and I completely support improved cycling safety but this kind of 'look at me' public vigilantism is highly questionable.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      Police took action against the driver for a close pass on a cyclist. Feel to contact Essex Police if you have an issue with this.

    • @user-fo9bv2mm1g
      @user-fo9bv2mm1g 2 місяці тому +1

      Dangerous passes are not only highly questionable, they threaten lives. No maybe about it, the driver WAS in the wrong. They should have held back for 6 seconds till a safe passing opportunity presented itself.

    • @nakedenby
      @nakedenby 2 місяці тому

      @@makecyclingsafeagain6575 Thank you for your reply. It's a little disappointing you just repeat a lazy stock mantra when you could have elaborated. Viewers might be left wondering if your riding is in the same style as your online reporting. Stay safe.

    • @makecyclingsafeagain6575
      @makecyclingsafeagain6575  2 місяці тому

      @@nakedenby likewise. Drive safe, lots of drivers and cyclists running cameras these days.

    • @Greatmotorists
      @Greatmotorists 2 дні тому

      People don't get it!​@@user-fo9bv2mm1g