@@Eradicator-jv9xr No, its an CIWS and CRAM system. It alreday has laser range systems and IR sensors. And of course, it needs a radar, basically every ship needs a radar
Pure Fire rate is the Last line of defense for the CIWS. The Kashten and Pantsir Rely on their Missiles for Interception, But they rely on their Pure fire rate guns for the final stand, In other words, The ship relies on the CIWS as a final lien of defense, The CIWS it self relies on it's guns for the final lien of defense.
1st: fire rate is not a proper category the rheinmetall cannon is much more effective against aircraft and larger missiles 2nd: the rheinmetall cannon is the mantis and comes from germany
to respond to your first point rate of fire is more important for a CIWIS, on top of that the caliber is only 5mm larger than it is on the pantsir, so the destructive power isnt that much higher and firing 10 as many rounds leads to far more damage, on top of that both systems have an effective range of 4km. The Pantsir has longer sustained fire rate because of more ammunition (proportional to its fire rate ofcourse) And the target acuqisiton is also way faster. The Pantsir rotates with 100 degrees horizontally and vertically. So it can track enemies better. It also comes in its full package and doesn't need an additional radar. And because each weapon system has its own radar so its less of weak spot. If you take out the radar connected to the Millenium gun/mantis you take out all connected ciwis. And the Millennium gun is originaly from Switzerland, developed by Oerlikon. Oerlikon later they got bought my Rheinmetal. The system then got a newer version the Mantis which is the system you were talking about. The millenium gun nowadays is a swiss gun system that is being produced by a german company in switzerland: Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Birchstrasse 155 8050 Zürich Schweiz The fact that rheinmetall bough the swiss company doesnt change the nationality of the CIWIS
I love these lists made by people who don't have a clue what they are on about. A CIWS system is not just a gun or gun mount. It is an integrated combination of weapon system, target acquisition and tracking system and fire control system. This video ignores two of the three. Then on top of that a system like Sea Zenith makes the list which is an acknowledged failure. Just a waste of time.
At the same time people loving comparing 'spreadsheet' values of weapons and argue over them. If we didn't have this garbage content someone else would fill the gap.
"A CIWS system is not just a gun or gun mount. It is an integrated combination of weapon system, target acquisition and tracking system and fire control system. " - let's say. But do you know any other systems from the list? For example, the presented Russian weapons systems? I did not go into the details of these systems, but I can give you an example of how our S-400 missile defense systems work (the best in the world, by the way, not counting the latest S-500 complex): S-300, S-400 have automatic interception modes, without the actions of maintenance personnel, and this is the main their mode. At the same time, any S-400 complex can not only shoot at other people's commands, but also manage a network of Anti-aircraft Missile Systems of various types: S-400, S-300, Pantsir-S1, Tor - M1, combining dozens of launchers with hundreds of missiles under its command. In this connection, I think that these systems are also part of a single network.
@@НиколайУльянкин-г6т Nikolai, thanks for a perfect example of a straw man argument. Russian long range SAMs are great, so Russian CIWS must be the best also?
@@jarink1 First of all, you probably don't read well. I wrote there that our S-400 systems had the ability to control many other systems in an automated format. And this has been implemented for a long time. And when I wrote that our systems are the best, I wrote specifically about the S-300.. S-400 systems and so on. And not about CIWS systems. About CIWS systems, I said that in order to fully compare, you need to know their characteristics. And who is now a great example of a straw man here, me or you?
*Rate of fire is one metric, and has several subcategories such as initial rate, sustained rate , burst rate and total magazine quantity. What matters is target acquisition, time on target and success rates of defeat, and YOUR order on "best"r would change dramatically measured by those meaningful metrics.*
Oerlikon was bought by Rheinmetall in 1999 so it's not licensed nor is it not a Swiss Company Now it is Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Part of Rheinmetall German. Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Birchstrasse 155 8050 Zürich Schweiz So a Swiss Company belonging to a German company
@@khushaljaiswal0002 Ironically the original Oerlikon designer was German but had to register the patent and start the company in Switzerland because the 1919 armistice after WW1 forbids Germany from making such weapons.
It was designed in Switzerland and is built in Switzerland. Belonging to a entity which happens to be abroad doesn't give the nationality. Otherwise we should talk about Lamborgini, that great German car, just like Rolls Royce, same origin.
I think Western Propaganda didn't told you Ukraine launched almost 20-25 neptune missiles to destroy Moskva Cruiser AK-630 Destroyed 3-5 Neptune Missiles S-300 destroyed more than 15 neptune missiles Only 2 missiles had passed AA system, One missile done some miner damage but second missile hit the ammunition area where P-1000 were stored.
Сorrection : "Duet" double rate of fire АК-630М-2 = 10 000 with two AO-18KD rotary cannons. Visually "Duet" differs from "Roy" in having a new mount with a stealthy low RCS design compared with the more traditional rounded AK-630 mounts.
The goalkeeper has no actual combat experience. Phalanx is not only the OG but easily the most combat approved and trusted CIWS with it just recently destroying Houthi anti ship missiles as a way to save missiles and money.
Note that the latest sea test of the Chinese PLAN 003 aircraft carrier in early May 2024, the 1130 CIWS system came with a rectangular AESA radar antenna (old models are disc shape), can track and trace multi-targets and prioritize them at the same time.
Weight is important, some of these systems are too heavy to be fitted to lighter ships, and some aren't the complete system, just the "gun" unit, they rely on a ship having an active search radar installed that they can be linked to. Some are also only part of the CIWS, many have a second missile based component thats installed seperately from the gun (or entirely independantly for both parts). A good example is the Phylanx is only part of the US CIWS, there is the C-RAM system too thats installed alongside it on many ships to act as the longer range compnent of the CIWS. Length (and height) while sounding useless, also is important, they affect the weapon placement aboard ship. If its too long it can't be installed in certain places as the barrels may collide with the ships structure, height means they can't be installed in certain places without disrutping the ships radar/communications or in heavier systems the ships stability. They sound like stupid stats but they really aren't. Also calibre was listed when you listen to the video, just not on the stats that were printed, bit of an oversight admittedly.
Turkey produced a new system called Gökdeniz. Gökdeniz may be at the top of the list because it has smart projectile launching capability, excellent software and powerful radars.
@@tsugumorihoney2288 atış hızı tek başına hiçbirşey değildir..daha büyük kalibre daha fazla kinetik güç demektir..yazar listeyi yaparken en hızlıyı değil ..en iyi sistemleri göz önüne almalıydı..
My boarding team was firing 170 rounds per second during a mad-minute (the fastest way to get all the ammo out of the magazines after deployment). According to you, this was the best CIWS ever......
and Breda, OTO Melara, Leonardo? and anyway, I agree with 1zanglang, Helboy Stein, Player 55 Redcrafter. A CIWS has an acquisition system and a fire control system which is the most important part of the CIWS system followed by the ammunition, the gun itself only comes in 3rd place. the Leonardo 76/62 Super Rapido, for example, can use, in anti-missile mode of short / very short range ships, the DART projectiles, a guided ammunition and therefore to correct the route even in flight by directing it to the target, they are non-calibrated projectiles with respect to to the cannon, which can correct their trajectory to counter the maneuvers of the target missile and intercept it. Furthermore, in the 30 - 40 mm class, the Breda Dardo with a maximum range of 12500 m can engage flying targets at a longer USEFUL distance than any existing pariclass. useful distance = maximum range minus 25 - 30%
Also using the listed effective range values is pointless. Russia for example always has much lower standards for what constitutes "effective range". the 30×165mm rounds used in their listed CIWS have a lower muzzle velocity and worse ballistic coefficient than the 30×173mm round used in the Goalkeeper, yet they state their effective range as 4000m compared to Goalkeepers 2500m.
The weapons systems are arranged by rate of fire, and even then, the US/NATO Phalanx comes in 4th on this list. Only Russian and Chinese designs ahead of it. I'll just go ahead and take that US option, you other guys can have the Russian and Chinese models.
Unfortunately video has wrong information. Sea Zenith system is used by Turkish Navy only MEKO class frigates. Origin is Switzerland (Oerlikon Contraves). Turkey has their own system called as GOKDENIZ. System is brand new system which is using Atom Smart Ammunition.
This list is incredibly misleading. Some of these systems were already outdated 30 years ago, while the Nr 10 Millennium Gun has individually programmed explosive ammo, the newest radar and computers and the highest range. Leading to the best hits per shots fired ratio. Only lasers or even more advanced future guns will be better.
Simply choosing rate of fire as sole metric is not sufficient (as most comments point out). Like kids comparing cars solely based on horsepower. One aspect missed e.g. is: These canons fire short bursts of maybe 1s. The rotary canons usually have a higher rate of fire - but they need time to start rotation, before they fire. So if you loose 500ms of the 1s burst - this meens a weapons-system firing from ms 1 can have half the fire-rate and still put out the same amount of rounds... and it has a lower latency.
@@BocmanPlus Назови, сколько самолётов Обосраиля сбили системы ПВО паРашки в Сирии? Ноль! Российское оружие бесполезно против оружия передовых государств.
If you spit double the rounds a minute accuracy gets a bit meaningless.. And if you wanna go by accuracy, the Millenium gun would be top 5 just because of the type of ammo it uses
It's also a lot harder to get good numbers on accuracy and tracking for a simple youtube video. Hence why they stated this is how we will rank them, not this is the best ranking. It's used to give order. One could argue size or weight should play a bigger role.
@@samulivainionpaa9338 The Moskva had 2 AK 360s not even the AK 630. So yes the ancient AK 360 didnt do its Job but the Pantsir would have done its job. The Pantisr currently has the best and newest software, fastest target acquisition, higher accuracy (yes actually it has), better tracking, higher caliber and higher fire rate, on top of that it has the best radar and an idependent AESA radar that both the Phalanx and Goalkeeper dont have. So the Pantsir is the best CIWIS, but the problem is that most russian ships dont use it. And only newly produced or the currently most modern russian ships in service get it equipped. So the biggest problem the Pantsir has is that they are very rare And the Phalanx/ CRAM isnt good even tho it has better accuracy than the AK 360. In Israel a singular CRAM is only able to intercept 1 out of 3 incoming missiles. It lacks fire rate and the required caliber to shoot the missiles down fast enough.
Spanish CIWS Meroka is the old one. Escribano has developed for the Spanish Navy (Armada) the Sentinel TAO (GAU 12/U gun + 4 Mistral III missiles) and the Sentinel 25 RFG (only GAU 12/U gun) It will be great if you update de TOP 10 CIWS with the new weapons
@@pacojones4074 de hecho si podrías jajaja Luego me fijé que la versión inicial llevará el cañón rotatorio tipo GAU-12/U con 5 tubos pero está previsto mejorarla pasando al modelo GAU-22/A y reduciendo a 4 tubos.
Ну, Каштан и Панцир-М, базару ноль, лучшие в списке, поскольку имеют ракеты (Панцирь-М с новыми твёрдотельными топливными элементами первой ступени), да и плотность огня очень высокая даже без ракет, однако , если смотреть на эффективность только пушечного вооружения,без учёта ракет, то турель под номером 10(Немецкая) будет лучше, поскольку имеет программируемые взрыватели на фугасных снарядах 35 -ки(очень маленькая плотность, однако высочайшая поражающая способность ). Российская же турель,без учёта ракет, имеет контактные взрыватели на фугасных снарядах , поэтому поражается цель за счёт плотности огня непосредственным попаданием в саму цель снаряда, а не детонацией рядом с целью, как в случае Немецкой зениткой( бесконтактным подрывом(поражение плотным пучком осколков)).
@@4ik4irik43 Мне кажется, что эффективность систем защиты сильно зависит от скорости ракеты. Перехват сверхзвуковой, а тем более гиперзвуковой ракеты некая вероятность удачи. Возможно сбить первую ракету, если слить весь боезапас одной очередью, потом надо бежать спасаться (ракеты ходят стаей).
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov , понять бы ещё чьей ракеты (зенитных комплексов систем защиты корабля или вражеской ракеты?), причём тут боезапас(если скорострельность не означает что у комплекса боезапас всего 10000 выстрелов, поскольку есть такое понятие как погреба корабля, где хранится боезапас и может подаваться с ленты в 100 к патронов), понять бы(зачем рассматривать какие-то конкретные ситуации атаки вражескими ракетами без учёта работы несколькими зпрк или ещё лучше совместно с другими комплексами различной дальности действия двух, а то и трёх типов комплексов дополнительных эшелонов обороны корабля, а то и целой эскадры?). Сути вашего комментария я не понял.
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov , если про скорость, то если гиперзвуковая зашла в область применения пушечных комплексов, то современные автономные и полуавтономные системы, позволяющие быстро обрабатывать данные(захват цели, расчёт упреждения) и быстро на определённой дальности осуществить выстрел(особенно если первый и второй эшелоны были прорваны и не смогли перехватить гиперзвуковую, то комплексы уже готовы среагировать, они лочат ракету за 10-20 км с помощью радара корабля, поэтому собьют, если у гиперзвуковой не будет большая угловая скорость относительно турели(но это очень маловероятно, потому что это может быть, если ракета мимо корабля летит), а на встречных курсах турель справиться на изи ),
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov но, если про ваш случай, когда у наc по какому-то борту стоит одна турель, не учитывая боезапас, на наш корабль летят две гиперзвуковые ракеты, которые были не перехвачены другими ракетными комплексами большой и средней дальности поражения, то если мы поразим на встречных курсах одну ракету, возможно, нам не хватит времени переключиться на другую цель и поразить её. Здесь решают: скорости УВНов , скорость горизонтального привода, скорость полёта снарядов, скорость реакции комплекса на таких скоростях на расстоянии от 4 км и ближе, ТТХ зенитно-пушечного комплекса(турели). В конкретно таких условия или схожих, возможно, вы правы.
You ever noticed how these systems almost always seems to be falling 1 or 2 seconds behind the target that they are trying to shoot down? It's almost as if the system is designed to expend a certain amount of ammo before it decides to destroy the target. Or am I wrong here?
The Meroka system was decommissioned many years ago, it was never updated or functional in reality, only on paper, currently it is only "dead weight" in the war ships that it was installed.
Pantsir still wins because it also has the highest caliber. it win in every category. Tracking, target acquisition, longest sustained rate of fire, newest software, highest accuracy...
Go through Wikipedia link by typing Pantsir M. The Admiral Kuznetsov has 10 systems while Kirov class destroyers have 6 each. N.B. I am for indigenistion, but unfortunately no Indian co manufacture CIWS.
Finally, a more or less perfect video. Thank you for not putting the United States in the first place. As for weapons, the Russian Federation is out of competition. We can bend everyone! ;)
Larger caliber size to, but its made off of the design of the phalanx, if u think the phalanx the US employs doesnt use some improved tech ur naive, i hear the phalanx is very twitchy, seems soulless, it can move extremely fast. The the phalanx im sure has some classified tech in it, the ones we employ atleast, maybe not the ones we export.
@@profo4544 Incorrect, Goalkeeper has no relation with Phalanx. The Dutch designed it from the ground up with the exception of buying its gun from GE to save money on cost of scale (the Netherlands has no manufacturers producing multi-barrelled autocannons, and setting that up themselves would cause a huge increase in the per unit costs, hence it was cheaper to just buy that abroad). And the Dutch have always been ahead of the US by 5-10 years when it comes to naval sensors such as radar. Precisely those sensors are the reason why Goalkeeper is so much better, it has unparallelled accuracy as a result.
Duet would be 2 the Pantsir has the same caliber same fire rate and range but it has a build in radar, it has better tracking, and way faster target acquisition.
@@zamazingotv2149 What do you mean? The company is from swiss (today, Rheinmetall) and they developed this product. There are all infos, do your research.
@@zamazingotv2149 You do not need a tank engine for a CIWS. I just say, this is not a Turkish made weapon system, it is from a swiss company, used on Turkish ships they bought from Germany. The Turkish made Gökdeniz CIWS also uses an Oerlikon Gun, produced under license. Now, Oerlikon is part of a German subcompany from Getmanys Rheinmetall, also located in Swiss. By the way, if the BMC tank engine will fulfill the needs as a reliable engine will need time, as well as the powerpack.
Why not included Gokdeniz ciws of Turkey it has 35mm burst ammo like the orlicon millenium of Switzerland, and more rate of fire and have longer range!
@TRACKS True... It has already the nice look to have on a space ship. Jezus did not come from this world some one sayed, i wonder from where he did. :0) I wonder how long ago a planet like earth could already have exist, when the stars where more cloose to each other then they are now and how far ahead some live already could be in science, when the concept of it is already for millions of years the same. 1 visit and we will watch in the barrel of a future laser canon that split a planet while still holding a stick ourselfs. Lets keep fighting ourselfs and waste good time. ;0)
It was already too much trouble to look up the barrel-length of the goalkeeper. While it only required one more click on the link to the GAU-8 avenger.....
From what i hear it moves the fastest and its impressively twitchy and responsive nowadays, the footage of alot of the ones u see are from when they first came out, These things used to be famous for not working at all on shipsn when they first were employed, now they much more reliable.
@@profo4544 They're employed in US bases as well because they're quite good at their job against artillery and other projectiles. The US Army loves them.
well if you wanna see something like that animated, but it is agaisnt a US Navy attack flight in WW2, you can check it out here, but it doesnt have subtitles. It isnt realistic, but it gives you the Basic Idea (and it doesn't just involve the CIWS system): ua-cam.com/video/3YmKg61JEqI/v-deo.html
It’s only 10,000 rpm because it’s just two AK-630’s. And honestly, idk why it needs missiles. The US navy gets around this by using ESSM short range interceptor missiles in combination with the tried and true Phalanx, but I guess Russia just wants to “add more gun”
76mm Melara strales 40mm rápid fire France 37mm type 76 China 35mm gokdeniz turkish 30 pantsir ciws russia Sea snake 27mm ciws German 25mm scribano ciws spain 23mm mesbah irán 20mm phalanx ciws 14.5 norkorea ciws 12.7mm hitrole ciws Italy 15mm ciws is it possible? 7.62mm ciws is it possible ? 5.56mm ciws is it possible? 57mm ciws is it possible?
Sry, rapidfire is not a ciws sadly, but an anti air You look like you know a lot about ciws. Do you have the name of the north korean ciws you talked about please ?
I think Western Propogenda hadn't told you Ukraine launched almost 20-25 neptune missiles to destroy Moskva Cruiser AK-630 Destroyed 3-5 Neptune Missiles S-300 destroyed more than 15 neptune missiles Only 2 missiles had passed AA system, One missile done some miner damage but second missile hit the ammunition area where P-1000 were stored.
@@Faruk1243gm lol all pantsir? They destroyed some of them some of them because of useless crew. After that Pantsir destroyed several Bairaktars and they stopped flying because they lost a lot
@@Faruk1243gm Lol, Pantsir-M is on the gorshkov, In other words, The Pantsir-M is only installed on ships that are in the Baltic and artic, So how did a Turkish drone flew to the baltic/Artic to hit a Russian ship?
well the pansir still has a higher caliber than the rest, higher accuracy, better tracking, better radar, faster target acquisition, longer range, newer software, longer sustained fire rate, larger burst mass... The pantsir still wins in every category
I also miss the Rheinmetall weapons. Hight rate of fire for 35 or 40 mm. And advance control, e.g. measure speed of projectile on fired, programming time to exploding for example against massive multiple drone attack.
The Millenium Gun is the Rheinmetall Gun. Oerlikon Contraves is a company owned by Rheinmetall. The 35mm Gun is from Oerlikon but the System is more than a gun. It needs interfaces and mechanics to move it. This is the Part of Rheinmetall.
@@turkishcypriot8013 you mean the video which when you actually watch it shows that active S-1's killed upwards of 40 Bayraktars without loss later on, and the early losses to those drones were against S-1's that weren't active at the time. Before you boast about your drones effectiveness, make sure your drones actually engaging targets that are setup to shoot back, because when it does, it loses, badly.
If you’re going to list a true top-ten for CIWS..they all aren’t just guns. Guns have proven too slow for very low altitude supersonic anti-ship missiles. Yes, a gun can hit the missile; it’s the tracking and direction process that makes its reaction time as a weapon system sub-par for these types of missiles.
@John Grigg That’s one of the reasons the front line US warships went from the Gatling to the Rolling Airframe Missile; multi-spectral and fire and forget. It’s still aimed with the Phalanx radar..
Turkey has built a navy variant of korkut close air defence system which is called gokdeniz. New ships will be carrying this new gun system. Check it out.
it not just rate of fire but effective range effectiveness against supersonic missiles. more range means that system is more effective with high rate of fire.
And the UK has nothing you would think with BAE systems being into so many different pieces of Military equipment, they would have something in this field.
Pure rate of fire, is not a sufficient criteria: the Rheinmetall has 35mm with fragmenting Tungsteen sub-projectiles.
Yes ik
But that's for anti air you'll rely have to hook it up to a ciws radar and targeting system to actually use it to shoot down missiles n stuff
@@Eradicator-jv9xr No, its an CIWS and CRAM system. It alreday has laser range systems and IR sensors. And of course, it needs a radar, basically every ship needs a radar
And where is RAM and SeaRAM?
Pure Fire rate is the Last line of defense for the CIWS.
The Kashten and Pantsir Rely on their Missiles for Interception, But they rely on their Pure fire rate guns for the final stand, In other words, The ship relies on the CIWS as a final lien of defense, The CIWS it self relies on it's guns for the final lien of defense.
1st: fire rate is not a proper category
the rheinmetall cannon is much more effective against aircraft and larger missiles
2nd: the rheinmetall cannon is the mantis and comes from germany
to respond to your first point rate of fire is more important for a CIWIS, on top of that the caliber is only 5mm larger than it is on the pantsir, so the destructive power isnt that much higher and firing 10 as many rounds leads to far more damage, on top of that both systems have an effective range of 4km. The Pantsir has longer sustained fire rate because of more ammunition (proportional to its fire rate ofcourse) And the target acuqisiton is also way faster. The Pantsir rotates with 100 degrees horizontally and vertically. So it can track enemies better. It also comes in its full package and doesn't need an additional radar.
And because each weapon system has its own radar so its less of weak spot. If you take out the radar connected to the Millenium gun/mantis you take out all connected ciwis.
And the Millennium gun is originaly from Switzerland, developed by Oerlikon. Oerlikon later they got bought my Rheinmetal. The system then got a newer version the Mantis which is the system you were talking about.
The millenium gun nowadays is a swiss gun system that is being produced by a german company in switzerland:
Rheinmetall Air Defence AG
Birchstrasse 155
8050 Zürich
Schweiz
The fact that rheinmetall bough the swiss company doesnt change the nationality of the CIWIS
I love these lists made by people who don't have a clue what they are on about. A CIWS system is not just a gun or gun mount. It is an integrated combination of weapon system, target acquisition and tracking system and fire control system. This video ignores two of the three. Then on top of that a system like Sea Zenith makes the list which is an acknowledged failure. Just a waste of time.
At the same time people loving comparing 'spreadsheet' values of weapons and argue over them. If we didn't have this garbage content someone else would fill the gap.
"A CIWS system is not just a gun or gun mount. It is an integrated combination of weapon system, target acquisition and tracking system and fire control system. " - let's say. But do you know any other systems from the list? For example, the presented Russian weapons systems?
I did not go into the details of these systems, but I can give you an example of how our S-400 missile defense systems work (the best in the world, by the way, not counting the latest S-500 complex):
S-300, S-400 have automatic interception modes, without the actions of maintenance personnel, and this is the main their mode.
At the same time, any S-400 complex can not only shoot at other people's commands, but also manage a network of Anti-aircraft Missile Systems of various types: S-400, S-300, Pantsir-S1, Tor - M1, combining dozens of launchers with hundreds of missiles under its command.
In this connection, I think that these systems are also part of a single network.
@@НиколайУльянкин-г6т Nikolai, thanks for a perfect example of a straw man argument. Russian long range SAMs are great, so Russian CIWS must be the best also?
@@jarink1 First of all, you probably don't read well. I wrote there that our S-400 systems had the ability to control many other systems in an automated format. And this has been implemented for a long time.
And when I wrote that our systems are the best, I wrote specifically about the S-300.. S-400 systems and so on.
And not about CIWS systems.
About CIWS systems, I said that in order to fully compare, you need to know their characteristics.
And who is now a great example of a straw man here, me or you?
@@НиколайУльянкин-г6т Nick, you need to research what a "Straw man" argument is. до свидания
You list everything in each gun's description except the caliber. I guess proofreading is a skill of the past.
This video is incorrect on the listings
mostly 20mm
Russians use only 30mm with several types of ammunition thats all i know.
Maybe the volume was turned down; my playback showed calibers in the sub-titles. Maybe not written, but it was described..
yes I noticed that...I guess we're supposed to memorize it
*Rate of fire is one metric, and has several subcategories such as initial rate, sustained rate , burst rate and total magazine quantity. What matters is target acquisition, time on target and success rates of defeat, and YOUR order on "best"r would change dramatically measured by those meaningful metrics.*
No, you THINK that, not the same as its correct.
no, it wouldn't. Go cry because your Phalanx CWIS isn't the #1 on this planet...
@@gtifighter yeah millennium gun is way cooler anyways
@@MrCastodian Of course it was correct, it's simple logic. Grow up.
@@gen2mediainc.577 Good design, i like it
So many close-in weapon systems to choose from. Question is, what does my neighbor have?
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Obviously one of the Chinese made one.
A "mini-pee-pee" close-in gun.
But where u from?
@@rupayanbandyopadhyay3578 nah China just sucks at actually choosing todo targets to test weapons on, honestly prob a nail gun
The Oerlikon Millennium Gun or „MANTIS“ is from Germany, not swiss. Its from Rheinmetall Defense, a german Company.
It's a licensed production of Swiss gun
Oerlikon was bought by Rheinmetall in 1999 so it's not licensed nor is it not a Swiss Company
Now it is Rheinmetall Air Defence AG Part of Rheinmetall German.
Rheinmetall Air Defence AG
Birchstrasse 155
8050 Zürich
Schweiz
So a Swiss Company belonging to a German company
The Oerlilkon is mounted also on PT boats.
@@khushaljaiswal0002 Ironically the original Oerlikon designer was German but had to register the patent and start the company in Switzerland because the 1919 armistice after WW1 forbids Germany from making such weapons.
It was designed in Switzerland and is built in Switzerland.
Belonging to a entity which happens to be abroad doesn't give the nationality.
Otherwise we should talk about Lamborgini, that great German car, just like Rolls Royce, same origin.
There WAS six AK-630 onboard russian cruiser Moskva... It got hit TWICE and those systems could not do anything!
We may never learn if all six AK-630s failed to activate, some activated but failed to destroy the incoming missile, or were all busy engaging drones.
Self claimed ukrainian
@@razorm1195 Self claimed expert keyboard warrior
Mmmmmmm maybe its jammed so it cant firing the missile
I think Western Propaganda didn't told you Ukraine launched almost 20-25 neptune missiles to destroy Moskva Cruiser
AK-630 Destroyed 3-5 Neptune Missiles
S-300 destroyed more than 15 neptune missiles
Only 2 missiles had passed AA system, One missile done some miner damage but second missile hit the ammunition area where P-1000 were stored.
Love Russia from Laos 🇱🇦 ❤️🇷🇺
Сorrection : "Duet" double rate of fire АК-630М-2 = 10 000 with two AO-18KD rotary cannons. Visually "Duet" differs from "Roy" in having a new mount with a stealthy low RCS design compared with the more traditional rounded AK-630 mounts.
хороший резак у китайцев тоже супер
How many ammo it had?
@@hasnitamatisa6132 4000
6 bursts of 400 shots with breaks of 5-6 or 200 shots with breaks of 1-1.5 seconds (information for one gun)
Hopefully can it can hit target with eased. Loading another 4K ammo may take some time and seriuos labour.
South Africa we made it. 🇿🇦 🇿🇦 🇿🇦
@Burak gö not everything is black or white..please check before speculating..
Paid with my income tax money, sin tax money, fuel levy tax, VAT. MY MONEY MADE IT.
@@Y_Hamilton Unfortunately i cant argue with you on that one...our government is such
Greetings from turkey
@Burak gö said by beggar country like yours.
Goalkeeper takes no prisoners, shoots first and doesn't ask any questions after. The top 2 look like something a Transformer would turn into.
The goalkeeper has no actual combat experience. Phalanx is not only the OG but easily the most combat approved and trusted CIWS with it just recently destroying Houthi anti ship missiles as a way to save missiles and money.
Love Turkey from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇹🇷
Note that the latest sea test of the Chinese PLAN 003 aircraft carrier in early May 2024, the 1130 CIWS system came with a rectangular AESA radar antenna (old models are disc shape), can track and trace multi-targets and prioritize them at the same time.
There is useless info about length and weight, but no info about caliber that more important
Most are 30mm and our Mk.15 Phalanx is 20mm
Weight is important, some of these systems are too heavy to be fitted to lighter ships, and some aren't the complete system, just the "gun" unit, they rely on a ship having an active search radar installed that they can be linked to. Some are also only part of the CIWS, many have a second missile based component thats installed seperately from the gun (or entirely independantly for both parts).
A good example is the Phylanx is only part of the US CIWS, there is the C-RAM system too thats installed alongside it on many ships to act as the longer range compnent of the CIWS.
Length (and height) while sounding useless, also is important, they affect the weapon placement aboard ship. If its too long it can't be installed in certain places as the barrels may collide with the ships structure, height means they can't be installed in certain places without disrutping the ships radar/communications or in heavier systems the ships stability.
They sound like stupid stats but they really aren't.
Also calibre was listed when you listen to the video, just not on the stats that were printed, bit of an oversight admittedly.
All russian ciwis is 30mm the only one that is larger is the millennium gun with 35mm
where is the mantis air defence system?
Turkey produced a new system called Gökdeniz. Gökdeniz may be at the top of the list because it has smart projectile launching capability, excellent software and powerful radars.
😂
this top based on CIWS "RATE OF FIRE" pls listen what author telling before typing something stupid
@@tsugumorihoney2288 atış hızı tek başına hiçbirşey değildir..daha büyük kalibre daha fazla kinetik güç demektir..yazar listeyi yaparken en hızlıyı değil ..en iyi sistemleri göz önüne almalıydı..
My boarding team was firing 170 rounds per second during a mad-minute (the fastest way to get all the ammo out of the magazines after deployment).
According to you, this was the best CIWS ever......
Congratulations on winning the award for poorest aged UA-cam video of 2022 April!
That scene from Hunter Killer will forever be implanted in my mind
and Breda, OTO Melara, Leonardo? and anyway, I agree with 1zanglang, Helboy Stein, Player 55 Redcrafter. A CIWS has an acquisition system and a fire control system which is the most important part of the CIWS system followed by the ammunition, the gun itself only comes in 3rd place. the Leonardo 76/62 Super Rapido, for example, can use, in anti-missile mode of short / very short range ships, the DART projectiles, a guided ammunition and therefore to correct the route even in flight by directing it to the target, they are non-calibrated projectiles with respect to to the cannon, which can correct their trajectory to counter the maneuvers of the target missile and intercept it. Furthermore, in the 30 - 40 mm class, the Breda Dardo with a maximum range of 12500 m can engage flying targets at a longer USEFUL distance than any existing pariclass. useful distance = maximum range minus 25 - 30%
OTO Melara is a vulcan canon
@@nhatpham2206 have you ever seen a 76mm vulcan? cuz i didn't
Rating these weapons only by rate of fire is just stupid.
Ikr
Also using the listed effective range values is pointless. Russia for example always has much lower standards for what constitutes "effective range". the 30×165mm rounds used in their listed CIWS have a lower muzzle velocity and worse ballistic coefficient than the 30×173mm round used in the Goalkeeper, yet they state their effective range as 4000m compared to Goalkeepers 2500m.
@@HannarrMontannarr Absolutely correct.
@@HannarrMontannarr she's probably too lazy to calculate those herself
Yes but Russia would be also on the top.
AK 630 so cute but deadly
It is a really light turret, no wonder Russian ships are covered in them.
Дуэт more efficiently. Duet is super!
@@Ivan0vsky Yes I have seen that one. Nice compact unit. 10,000 rpm
@@briananthony4044 Why not add more if you can! Russian navy doctrine
(Just a joke)
The Russian CIWS is awesome.
Go Russia love from India.
The weapons systems are arranged by rate of fire, and even then, the US/NATO Phalanx comes in 4th on this list. Only Russian and Chinese designs ahead of it. I'll just go ahead and take that US option, you other guys can have the Russian and Chinese models.
bruh the ak-630 should be on 2nd place since its max rpm is literrally higher than 5th 4th and 3rd ciws, and we sort here by rpm, right?
And the ammo size is bigger than the ones in the phalanx
Drawings seemed like a selection of new Daleks for Dr. Who.
China's latest 1130b model should be at the top of the list. It is the only ciws system in the world with an independent AESA radar.
Pantsir-M also uses an independent AESA radar.
@@geofisika8838 lol I just watched a pantsir get blown to pieces by a hi mars the Pantiser didn’t do a good job as it disappeared at the explosion
@@DirkDiggler-qp3vm Its a close in weapon system, its not meant to shoot down shots from a HIMARS, thats the job of the S400
I am Heavy Weapons Guy. And this is my weapon.
Unfortunately video has wrong information. Sea Zenith system is used by Turkish Navy only MEKO class frigates. Origin is Switzerland (Oerlikon Contraves). Turkey has their own system called as GOKDENIZ. System is brand new system which is using Atom Smart Ammunition.
AK-630 look very simple and just 1m short for that rank tbh but its effective
Also i like the design of millenum Gun
AK-630m-2 Duet google it
So effective that Moskva sunk...
This list is incredibly misleading. Some of these systems were already outdated 30 years ago, while the Nr 10 Millennium Gun has individually programmed explosive ammo, the newest radar and computers and the highest range. Leading to the best hits per shots fired ratio. Only lasers or even more advanced future guns will be better.
I think the cannon used in the A-10 is the same as the one in the Goalkeeper.
You are correct
Love from assam nice information
Proud of Mzansi🇿🇦 for making it on the top 10👊
Mzansi.....
Simply choosing rate of fire as sole metric is not sufficient (as most comments point out). Like kids comparing cars solely based on horsepower.
One aspect missed e.g. is: These canons fire short bursts of maybe 1s. The rotary canons usually have a higher rate of fire - but they need time to start rotation, before they fire. So if you loose 500ms of the 1s burst - this meens a weapons-system firing from ms 1 can have half the fire-rate and still put out the same amount of rounds... and it has a lower latency.
Русские всегда шаг переди 💪 🇷🇺
Русским необходимо быть лучшими в военном деле - это дает надежду на выживание.
Бредовый рейтинг. Русское оружие = советское старье + новое российское д-мо.
@@nikolayskvotsov3868 завидуй молча и не показывай свою глупость.
@@BocmanPlus так глупость говорят те, кто считает, что расеянское оружие что-то из себя представляет, вроде тебя. Завидовать тут нечему.
@@BocmanPlus Назови, сколько самолётов Обосраиля сбили системы ПВО паРашки в Сирии? Ноль! Российское оружие бесполезно против оружия передовых государств.
I'd think accuracy and tracking are ahead of ROF in terms of purpose.
If you spit double the rounds a minute accuracy gets a bit meaningless.. And if you wanna go by accuracy, the Millenium gun would be top 5 just because of the type of ammo it uses
It's also a lot harder to get good numbers on accuracy and tracking for a simple youtube video. Hence why they stated this is how we will rank them, not this is the best ranking. It's used to give order. One could argue size or weight should play a bigger role.
@@sonson9876 Well, Moskva went down to subsonic ASM's, so it appears so that accuracy and tracking matter more
@@samulivainionpaa9338 The Moskva had 2 AK 360s not even the AK 630.
So yes the ancient AK 360 didnt do its Job but the Pantsir would have done its job.
The Pantisr currently has the best and newest software, fastest target acquisition, higher accuracy (yes actually it has), better tracking, higher caliber and higher fire rate, on top of that it has the best radar and an idependent AESA radar that both the Phalanx and Goalkeeper dont have.
So the Pantsir is the best CIWIS, but the problem is that most russian ships dont use it. And only newly produced or the currently most modern russian ships in service get it equipped.
So the biggest problem the Pantsir has is that they are very rare
And the Phalanx/ CRAM isnt good even tho it has better accuracy than the AK 360.
In Israel a singular CRAM is only able to intercept 1 out of 3 incoming missiles.
It lacks fire rate and the required caliber to shoot the missiles down fast enough.
What happens when we get the kashtan ciws and put it on tracks? Bam,we got the Tunguska anti everything
Too large, heavy and recoil is too much for such small vehicle.
@@xmeda Recoil? compared to a tank on tracks? what are u talking about lmao those missiles and guns arent putting out that much recoil lmfao.
Except against Turkish drones...
Awesome video, nice information,
Love from Mumbai as well as Thane, India!!
Spanish CIWS Meroka is the old one.
Escribano has developed for the Spanish Navy (Armada) the Sentinel TAO (GAU 12/U gun + 4 Mistral III missiles) and the Sentinel 25 RFG (only GAU 12/U gun)
It will be great if you update de TOP 10 CIWS with the new weapons
Ni yo lo hubiera dicho mejor 😉😁
@@pacojones4074 de hecho si podrías jajaja
Luego me fijé que la versión inicial llevará el cañón rotatorio tipo GAU-12/U con 5 tubos pero está previsto mejorarla pasando al modelo GAU-22/A y reduciendo a 4 tubos.
@@AAdB72 créeme, ni aun así yo lo hubiera hecho mejor 😉😅
Thanks for video ))
Лучшее оружие у Великой России!!! ☝️
Ну, Каштан и Панцир-М, базару ноль, лучшие в списке, поскольку имеют ракеты (Панцирь-М с новыми твёрдотельными топливными элементами первой ступени), да и плотность огня очень высокая даже без ракет, однако , если смотреть на эффективность только пушечного вооружения,без учёта ракет, то турель под номером 10(Немецкая) будет лучше, поскольку имеет программируемые взрыватели на фугасных снарядах 35 -ки(очень маленькая плотность, однако высочайшая поражающая способность ). Российская же турель,без учёта ракет, имеет контактные взрыватели на фугасных снарядах , поэтому поражается цель за счёт плотности огня непосредственным попаданием в саму цель снаряда, а не детонацией рядом с целью, как в случае Немецкой зениткой( бесконтактным подрывом(поражение плотным пучком осколков)).
@@4ik4irik43 Мне кажется, что эффективность систем защиты сильно зависит от скорости ракеты. Перехват сверхзвуковой, а тем более гиперзвуковой ракеты некая вероятность удачи. Возможно сбить первую ракету, если слить весь боезапас одной очередью, потом надо бежать спасаться (ракеты ходят стаей).
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov , понять бы ещё чьей ракеты (зенитных комплексов систем защиты корабля или вражеской ракеты?), причём тут боезапас(если скорострельность не означает что у комплекса боезапас всего 10000 выстрелов, поскольку есть такое понятие как погреба корабля, где хранится боезапас и может подаваться с ленты в 100 к патронов), понять бы(зачем рассматривать какие-то конкретные ситуации атаки вражескими ракетами без учёта работы несколькими зпрк или ещё лучше совместно с другими комплексами различной дальности действия двух, а то и трёх типов комплексов дополнительных эшелонов обороны корабля, а то и целой эскадры?). Сути вашего комментария я не понял.
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov , если про скорость, то если гиперзвуковая зашла в область применения пушечных комплексов, то современные автономные и полуавтономные системы, позволяющие быстро обрабатывать данные(захват цели, расчёт упреждения) и быстро на определённой дальности осуществить выстрел(особенно если первый и второй эшелоны были прорваны и не смогли перехватить гиперзвуковую, то комплексы уже готовы среагировать, они лочат ракету за 10-20 км с помощью радара корабля, поэтому собьют, если у гиперзвуковой не будет большая угловая скорость относительно турели(но это очень маловероятно, потому что это может быть, если ракета мимо корабля летит), а на встречных курсах турель справиться на изи ),
@@yotub_A_Vorobiov но, если про ваш случай, когда у наc по какому-то борту стоит одна турель, не учитывая боезапас, на наш корабль летят две гиперзвуковые ракеты, которые были не перехвачены другими ракетными комплексами большой и средней дальности поражения, то если мы поразим на встречных курсах одну ракету, возможно, нам не хватит времени переключиться на другую цель и поразить её. Здесь решают: скорости УВНов , скорость горизонтального привода, скорость полёта снарядов, скорость реакции комплекса на таких скоростях на расстоянии от 4 км и ближе, ТТХ зенитно-пушечного комплекса(турели). В конкретно таких условия или схожих, возможно, вы правы.
You ever noticed how these systems almost always seems to be falling 1 or 2 seconds behind the target that they are trying to shoot down?
It's almost as if the system is designed to expend a certain amount of ammo before it decides to destroy the target.
Or am I wrong here?
The Meroka system was decommissioned many years ago, it was never updated or functional in reality, only on paper, currently it is only "dead weight" in the war ships that it was installed.
Same as the chinese and russian paper guns i suppose :)
@@peterpain6625 cope much ?
@@josuea1911No, kind of correct actually. Maintenance standards are horrible.
Rank them based on speed of killing the target. Not rate of fire.
Pantsir still wins because it also has the highest caliber. it win in every category. Tracking, target acquisition, longest sustained rate of fire, newest software, highest accuracy...
Informative. The Pantsir and the Kashtan systems are the 2 best systems over AK 630. India should acquire this.
You know that rate of fire of aky630 is 5000
These are composite systems
The rate of fire is one, the pantsir has a redundant dual missile safety system. Go thru specs.
There are lot of better indigenous option provided by LsT, kalyani, ofb, Tata etc we need not to buy foreign products
@@shorts-qg6zm watch this video
Go through Wikipedia link by typing Pantsir M.
The Admiral Kuznetsov has 10 systems while Kirov class destroyers have 6 each.
N.B. I am for indigenistion, but unfortunately no Indian co manufacture CIWS.
You missed ak630m2 duet. But just look how ak630m fire, doesn't it looks like it underestimated compare to the higher tiers
Finally, a more or less perfect video. Thank you for not putting the United States in the first place. As for weapons, the Russian Federation is out of competition. We can bend everyone!
;)
What do you edit on ?
Goalkeeper has better tracking capability than phalinx
I wouldn't doubt it to be an honest 🇺🇸
Larger caliber size to, but its made off of the design of the phalanx, if u think the phalanx the US employs doesnt use some improved tech ur naive, i hear the phalanx is very twitchy, seems soulless, it can move extremely fast. The the phalanx im sure has some classified tech in it, the ones we employ atleast, maybe not the ones we export.
@@profo4544 Incorrect, Goalkeeper has no relation with Phalanx. The Dutch designed it from the ground up with the exception of buying its gun from GE to save money on cost of scale (the Netherlands has no manufacturers producing multi-barrelled autocannons, and setting that up themselves would cause a huge increase in the per unit costs, hence it was cheaper to just buy that abroad). And the Dutch have always been ahead of the US by 5-10 years when it comes to naval sensors such as radar. Precisely those sensors are the reason why Goalkeeper is so much better, it has unparallelled accuracy as a result.
@@pieterveenders9793 We bought the gun from USA, made rest ourselves. i believe its the same gun thats fitted on an A-10
I agree. Goalkeeper is the best!
I'm retired now, but the sea whiz that we had was dang impressive.
I hope we get the pantasir m in our next gen frigates and destroyers like p18
Am searching ciws weapon video u made it for me 😍😍😍😘😘😘
Lol. The top gun should be the Russian Duet CIWS
Duet would be 2 the Pantsir has the same caliber same fire rate and range but it has a build in radar, it has better tracking, and way faster target acquisition.
where is chinese Type1130?
Sea Zenith was developed from Oerlikon Contraves, Swiss. Its not a Turkish gun but it is used on old Turkish frigates from Germany like TCG Oruc Reis.
Who say this?
@@zamazingotv2149 What do you mean? The company is from swiss (today, Rheinmetall) and they developed this product. There are all infos, do your research.
@@rollerrollerichson6258 just motor from germany rein metal but all guns from self turkey
@@rollerrollerichson6258 and now turkey dont need tank motor from germany because turkey do it to 1600 ps a motor from bmc company
@@zamazingotv2149 You do not need a tank engine for a CIWS. I just say, this is not a Turkish made weapon system, it is from a swiss company, used on Turkish ships they bought from Germany. The Turkish made Gökdeniz CIWS also uses an Oerlikon Gun, produced under license. Now, Oerlikon is part of a German subcompany from Getmanys Rheinmetall, also located in Swiss.
By the way, if the BMC tank engine will fulfill the needs as a reliable engine will need time, as well as the powerpack.
Why not included Gokdeniz ciws of Turkey it has 35mm burst ammo like the orlicon millenium of Switzerland, and more rate of fire and have longer range!
üstelik daha stabil ve hızlı çalışan çift namlusu var..patlayıcı ve kinetik bütün mühimmatları istediği gibi kullanıyor..
So Russia rules
Oh yeah
That depends...
@TRACKS True... It has already the nice look to have on a space ship. Jezus did not come from this world some one sayed, i wonder from where he did. :0) I wonder how long ago a planet like earth could already have exist, when the stars where more cloose to each other then they are now and how far ahead some live already could be in science, when the concept of it is already for millions of years the same. 1 visit and we will watch in the barrel of a future laser canon that split a planet while still holding a stick ourselfs. Lets keep fighting ourselfs and waste good time. ;0)
Yeah their almost a match for farmers
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget they all float down there...
Hola, ¿ Qué tal?.
El Meroka, nunca a funcionado más allá de la segunda o tercera rafaga
Rússia🇷🇺 com 3 dos 10 sistemas anti aéreo, parabéns Russia por sua inovação, Brasil🇧🇷 minha terra amada, um dia chegamos lá
Na real seria 4, porque os russos também tem o AK630 M1-2.
Russia in real life not even in the list 😂😂 Moskva is now down with the fishes🤣🤣
Recent history, disproves #6, #2 and #1
You didn't add the DARDO ciws, I'm pretty much a fan of large caliber ciws like the 40mm
This list is incorrect. Missing the 76mm OTO Melara Super Rapido used by almost all western navies.
and the Bofors 57mm. This youtuber just read a list on fastest firing guns, and assumed that's how you reliably take down targets.
It's not ciws..it is mrg
@@satyajeetbhosale7134 the 76mm SR is classified as a CIWS
Turkey is very good for weapons. Any explanations? Industry?
Maybe you could show them being fired? Think your viewers would like that.
It was already too much trouble to look up the barrel-length of the goalkeeper. While it only required one more click on the link to the GAU-8 avenger.....
Pantsir-ME/M has both cannons and missiles. And Where's the type 1130?
You would think the Phalanx would be in the top 2 because of its proven record but instead unproven weapon systems get the top 3. Very strange.
@@RobertLutece909 Yeah you right, my bad.
From what i hear it moves the fastest and its impressively twitchy and responsive nowadays, the footage of alot of the ones u see are from when they first came out, These things used to be famous for not working at all on shipsn when they first were employed, now they much more reliable.
@@profo4544 They're employed in US bases as well because they're quite good at their job against artillery and other projectiles.
The US Army loves them.
The list is clearly incorrect anyway, considering Goalkeeper is much better than Phalanx and yet somehow Phalanx ranks right above it.
They never mention how much ammunition each system holds. What good is 10,000rpm if you only get two bursts?
Or if only none of them hit their targets.
imagine similar systems introduced in ww2:
kamikazers: we quit
they had pretty good AA back then tho
well if you wanna see something like that animated, but it is agaisnt a US Navy attack flight in WW2, you can check it out here, but it doesnt have subtitles. It isnt realistic, but it gives you the Basic Idea (and it doesn't just involve the CIWS system):
ua-cam.com/video/3YmKg61JEqI/v-deo.html
Isn‘t the Millennium Gun from Rheinmetall which is based in Germany?
In the thumbnail & Timestamp 4:46 the Top 4 is the iconic US Model CWIS Phalanx Minigun, seen on all destroyer-type ships.
It’s only 10,000 rpm because it’s just two AK-630’s. And honestly, idk why it needs missiles. The US navy gets around this by using ESSM short range interceptor missiles in combination with the tried and true Phalanx, but I guess Russia just wants to “add more gun”
amazing Russian weapons are already guarding the world
Maybe if turkish drones aren't there.
@@harp.tarihi Check how many Turkish drones were destroyed by Pantsir.
76mm Melara strales
40mm rápid fire France
37mm type 76 China
35mm gokdeniz turkish
30 pantsir ciws russia
Sea snake 27mm ciws German
25mm scribano ciws spain
23mm mesbah irán
20mm phalanx ciws
14.5 norkorea ciws
12.7mm hitrole ciws Italy
15mm ciws is it possible?
7.62mm ciws is it possible ?
5.56mm ciws is it possible?
57mm ciws is it possible?
Sry, rapidfire is not a ciws sadly, but an anti air
You look like you know a lot about ciws. Do you have the name of the north korean ciws you talked about please ?
4 Phalanx ciws 😍
Is this really just based on rate of fire?
"Дуэт" где???
В мультиках
THE MILINENUM GUN IS GERMAAAAANNNN 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Russia CIWS not function when Neptune missile of Ukraine fly and hit Moskva ship
That’s just the stupid Russian operators, not the weapons itself
love the arma 3 footage
AK-630 - Average at shooting ballon, bad at shooting neptune.
Lmfao
I think Western Propogenda hadn't told you Ukraine launched almost 20-25 neptune missiles to destroy Moskva Cruiser
AK-630 Destroyed 3-5 Neptune Missiles
S-300 destroyed more than 15 neptune missiles
Only 2 missiles had passed AA system, One missile done some miner damage but second missile hit the ammunition area where P-1000 were stored.
Let’s rate them only on rate of fire. Lol
the weakness of the US Phalanx model is that it only holds 900 shells and runs empty very quickly
and 20mm
@@Aadiotygod25dada theres no issue with it being a 20mm
@@grigorispanousis9745 larger caliber means longer range and each round is more effective if its for example a shrapnel round
Thank you
Pantsir-M very good
very good????? turkish Bayraktar TB2 KILLING ALL PANSTIR
Почему в Сирию перестали летать?!
Боитесь?!
@@Faruk1243gm lol all pantsir? They destroyed some of them some of them because of useless crew. After that Pantsir destroyed several Bairaktars and they stopped flying because they lost a lot
@@Faruk1243gm Красуха 4 навырубала этих рактаров херову тучу, че не летаете то аа ?
@@Faruk1243gm Lol, Pantsir-M is on the gorshkov, In other words, The Pantsir-M is only installed on ships that are in the Baltic and artic, So how did a Turkish drone flew to the baltic/Artic to hit a Russian ship?
You missed type 1130!
youtuber is an Indian, he likes to get barren psychological satisfaction by belittling China
*TOP 10 RATE OF FIRE CIWS IN THE WORLD*
There i fix the title..
well the pansir still has a higher caliber than the rest, higher accuracy, better tracking, better radar, faster target acquisition, longer range, newer software, longer sustained fire rate, larger burst mass...
The pantsir still wins in every category
Where is the CRAM?
🇹🇷 Gökdeniz Korkut-D not Zenith
where is type 1130?
Love from india
I also miss the Rheinmetall weapons. Hight rate of fire for 35 or 40 mm. And advance control, e.g. measure speed of projectile on fired, programming time to exploding for example against massive multiple drone attack.
The Millenium Gun is the Rheinmetall Gun. Oerlikon Contraves is a company owned by Rheinmetall. The 35mm Gun is from Oerlikon but the System is more than a gun. It needs interfaces and mechanics to move it. This is the Part of Rheinmetall.
Even so, for everyone mad that its by rate of fire, You have to admit that the PANTSIR M is scary
Pantsir easy target for Turkish drone Bayraktar TB-2 watch the videos.
@@turkishcypriot8013 Old Pantsyr S-1, no one S-2 or a SM or M
@@Ivan0vsky old or new bom bom bom.
@@acemipenguen7318 only in your dreams
@@turkishcypriot8013 you mean the video which when you actually watch it shows that active S-1's killed upwards of 40 Bayraktars without loss later on, and the early losses to those drones were against S-1's that weren't active at the time. Before you boast about your drones effectiveness, make sure your drones actually engaging targets that are setup to shoot back, because when it does, it loses, badly.
If you’re going to list a true top-ten for CIWS..they all aren’t just guns. Guns have proven too slow for very low altitude supersonic anti-ship missiles. Yes, a gun can hit the missile; it’s the tracking and direction process that makes its reaction time as a weapon system sub-par for these types of missiles.
@John Grigg That’s one of the reasons the front line US warships went from the Gatling to the Rolling Airframe Missile; multi-spectral and fire and forget. It’s still aimed with the Phalanx radar..
@John Grigg yea something like the rheinmetal hel system basicly a Mantis C-Ram + High Energy Laser
Turkey has built a navy variant of korkut close air defence system which is called gokdeniz. New ships will be carrying this new gun system. Check it out.
it not just rate of fire but effective range effectiveness against supersonic missiles. more range means that system is more effective with high rate of fire.
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And the UK has nothing you would think with BAE systems being into so many different pieces of Military equipment, they would have something in this field.
Russians know how to do