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КОМЕНТАРІ • 717

  • @joshuafigueroa2495
    @joshuafigueroa2495 2 роки тому +498

    Travis woulda heard Joe loud ass yelling “stop” if he was there

  • @claireistotle
    @claireistotle 2 роки тому +54

    “I’m not arguing w/ you, because it’s open to interpretation, but that’s *bullshit.”* 😂 man I love the way Joe Budden talks sometimes

  • @Fashionceo
    @Fashionceo 2 роки тому +263

    Why does Joe keep talking over people when he thinks he's right or matter or fact in every instance? its ok to not be correct let other people have an opinion too...

    • @Onwualu5
      @Onwualu5 2 роки тому +59

      Must be new here

    • @revekat2053
      @revekat2053 2 роки тому +9

      Because they do the exact same thing to him of you pay attention. They all talk over each other. Also I think he might have ADHD, which would explain a lot of his behaviors.

    • @kyrone475
      @kyrone475 2 роки тому +2

      Thats just joe lml have mal and rory use to get it more 😂

    • @cynthiawhite9997
      @cynthiawhite9997 2 роки тому +6

      I really wanted to hear the other opinions!

    • @rikkidgermano9640
      @rikkidgermano9640 2 роки тому +14

      EGO - Joe always been that way. This is why Rory & Mal are gone - it's his show! I barely come here because it's annoying after a while listening to someone who likes to hear himself talk.

  • @lifeofcoop252
    @lifeofcoop252 2 роки тому +73

    “Crafted for fuckery” THAT part. 🙌🏼

  • @jc-ds9nu
    @jc-ds9nu 2 роки тому +74

    I like that word energy. And how they used it. The way the music sounds all the way down to hertz and frequencies matter and how they suggest how you finna act. Shit wicked.

    • @solas444
      @solas444 2 роки тому +2

      You sir know your shit

    • @australian2
      @australian2 2 роки тому +5

      Wickedness will be downfall of mankind.

    • @theboy1625
      @theboy1625 2 роки тому

      Yup. Been looking into that shit myself So I can manipulate it

  • @kekarose2844
    @kekarose2844 2 роки тому +53

    Facts...frequencies and how music is crafted matters

  • @brandonblackfyre5783
    @brandonblackfyre5783 2 роки тому +101

    The Astro World incident is a good example of how things can go from normal to the worse case possible in a matter of seconds. That's why it's always good to have an escape plan no matter where you are, be prepared and always pay attention to your surroundings. Normally you'll get a "bad feeling" when something bad is about to happen so always trust your gut.

    • @Pros2mycons
      @Pros2mycons 2 роки тому +1

      I agree

    • @progressivelife841
      @progressivelife841 2 роки тому +8

      Travis dropped a song called No Escape on the day of the festival.

    • @rikkidgermano9640
      @rikkidgermano9640 2 роки тому +6

      They sold too many tickets for not enough space - greed got to them and they way they handled security was even worse! I have been to many concerts & festivals if you're not close to the stage, it makes no sense to try and force yourself up front. I have a great time being in the 3/4 of the crowd, I can see the stage and when the show is over, I get home faster.

    • @canamargera
      @canamargera 2 роки тому +2

      Some of the people there had no idea of the chaos happening til the news got out

    • @southernguru1455
      @southernguru1455 2 роки тому

      @@progressivelife841 it's called the escape plan not to be an asshole but just to point out how accurate it is to what u typed

  • @kebo8409
    @kebo8409 2 роки тому +164

    This is where the podcast be in its bag. We all come for this.

  • @lizprado8334
    @lizprado8334 2 роки тому +60

    the capacity of the entire venue was 200,000 but the show was set up for 50,000. not sure if you are familiar with setting up stages, but the venue can adjust the show setup to however many tickets are sold as long as its not exceeding the venue limit (200,000). But again, the GA set was set up for 50,000 (meaning fortified fences set up around an area fit for 50,000). He enticed to many people to break in that the show set was immediately over crowded and the fortified barriers around the set could not be toppled over. Creating the chaos and hellish environment that lead to lost lives.

    • @k-rocadams299
      @k-rocadams299 2 роки тому

      Wrong, the concert is in a festival space. I’m told of they fortified fences were only set up in the front, middle and the middle of the back of the performance area, much like rolling loud. So the capacity was okay it’s just how the performance area was set up it made it overcrowded. This is where design flaw lies. the two big screens in the back created the biggest problem and was the main reason so many people were having issues with suffocation and injuries. I was in the front of the crowd at Astroworld at first and we had to go in the back by the screens and go around. This is how many people got stuffed and began to suffocate because they were trying to get out.

  • @stephanie3506
    @stephanie3506 2 роки тому +35

    Bullshit too many people were pleading with him to totally stop the show.......he incited that craziness!!! AND he was one of the organizers of the event. The fact that it was pretty much the whole crowd that was in distress, HE needed to be the one to take the situation into his hands to make sure things got calmed down and people were ok....but he didn't care. And it's going to hurt him in the end.

    • @papichampu7616
      @papichampu7616 2 роки тому +2

      Not his fault.

    • @oxrea
      @oxrea 2 роки тому +1

      It would blow your mind to eventually know that the concert was meant to happen and some people were meant to die due to TS's greed

  • @bmorecareful3723
    @bmorecareful3723 2 роки тому +24

    They hired security on the spot not trained professional security

    • @jerseydevil1
      @jerseydevil1 2 роки тому

      You’d expect more from live nation , who was hired to organize the event & also the biggest event coordinators in the world

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 2 роки тому

      That's the other fact that is gonna get them sued real good!!!

  • @ratimaat9397
    @ratimaat9397 2 роки тому +16

    He told them to sneak in, know all facts

  • @johnrossi6189
    @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +124

    EXACTLY, it's *HIS* shit. You can't take the benefits or the amazing publicity of the show being a big hit but then be absolved from the bad stuff that happens when things turn bad. He deserves some blame.

    • @Gino565
      @Gino565 2 роки тому +10

      That’s because if the show was a big hit, it would be down the actual show. This tragedy has nothing to do with his performance, it was about safety and logistics.

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +9

      @@Gino565 Which comes with owning a show/event. You can't reap the rewards but when things go bad pretend like you have no hand in it. It's his event, his name is signed to it, any person who has their name attached to something should do everything in their power to make sure nothing goes wrong, and you know what the first step is? Not to tell your obviously crazy fans to find a way into the show anyways even though it was sold out.

    • @Gino565
      @Gino565 2 роки тому +3

      @@johnrossi6189 Irrelevant. If the show was celebrated, it would be because of the performance, which is on him. The reason the show isn’t being celebrated IS NOT because of the performance, it’s because people died. Your equivalence is incorrect. People dying isn’t strictly on him, it’s also on Live Nation, security, and Houston PD. Just because it’s his festival, that doesn’t mean he’s responsible for literally everything. Isn’t that obvious? He didn’t organise the event, he didn’t hire the staff, he didn’t work out the logistics. So like I said, your comment doesn’t make sense.

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +5

      @@Gino565 I never said it's fully his fault, I have said time and time again on different comments under this video that he isn't fully at fault but is still partially at fault. And if 200k people joined the show and didn't kill anyone, if they were properly spread out or if the show went off without any issues people would celebrate it or say he had a successful show. Besides that, again it's HIS EVENT with HIS name on it, he SHOULD be taking a more hands on approach. He has people *he* assigned to do those things so that's him giving his co-sign. You can't receive the money from it but then act like you aren't at fault at all. The show only went crazy because of his doing, because he told his crazy ass fan base to jump barricades in the past or even this show when he said "show is sold out but we will get the wild ones in anyways." You guys are picking at straws, he would still benefit if this event went off amazingly, he would be getting praise for *more then just his performance* if this event went well, they would say how he can really "control a crowd" and how he can put on an amazing event, so no, it's not just about him preforming.

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gino565 Also, if you look up Live Nation you can see the amount of lawsuits the company has because of negligence and people getting hurt, so again, Travis or someone he PAYS should have looked more into Live Nation.

  • @asmrp2p903
    @asmrp2p903 2 роки тому +20

    Sometimes Joe needs to realize that he is not always right. Stop cutting people off, stop making it about your own interpretation and stop getting so damn defensive when others have a different opinion, smh

  • @WazigeLogica
    @WazigeLogica 2 роки тому +4

    I've seen a member of a legendary hip hop group jump up a speaker, then jump/ climb up two balconies to knock out a dude who was beating up his girlfriend during a concert.. I just kept thinking of that when you were talking about 'what do you do as a performer when something happens in the crowd'.
    Peace and love to everyone.

  • @williambennett9643
    @williambennett9643 2 роки тому +6

    I have seen plenty of artists pause concerts for safety concerns. He did not stop the show for the ambulance. He seen the ambulance, there were people dancing on the ambulance. Cmon

  • @nickledonne90
    @nickledonne90 2 роки тому +58

    If I'm not mistaken,
    TRAVIS TOLD MORE PEOPLE TO SHOW UP!!!
    HE IS TO BLAME!!! NOT THE ONLY ONE BUT YOU CANT SAY THAT HE ISN'T !!!
    THE NEGATIVE FREQUENCIES THEY PLAYED BETWEEN ACTS/SONGS WAS SCARY AND MADE PEOPLE PASS OUT!
    this is some scary shit bro

    • @skywalkerwalker3934
      @skywalkerwalker3934 2 роки тому

      Bullshit! If Travis told people to show up, Travis didn't let them in.

    • @cece5705
      @cece5705 2 роки тому +4

      @@skywalkerwalker3934 its right he said it on his tweet. F the police and break in. So he did said it on tweet so yes they going to do what Travis tell them to do.

    • @dominiquehunter7084
      @dominiquehunter7084 2 роки тому +1

      @@cece5705 sure did!

    • @alphaandomega3981
      @alphaandomega3981 2 роки тому +1

      @@cece5705 yeah the tweet with astro poster thar he's deleted apparently

    • @Azraeluchiha999
      @Azraeluchiha999 2 роки тому +1

      He was just promoting his Festival. He didn't tell people to crush other people, suffocate people, inject other people with syringes or any of that. Not to mention, what happened to "if he tell you to jump off a bridge, are you going to do it"? Where's the responsibility for the fans?

  • @detroitlions3113
    @detroitlions3113 2 роки тому +20

    They starting to get mad they can't never get a word in 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mdotnelson
    @mdotnelson 2 роки тому +92

    That “energy” in songs he’s talking about, FACTS. Big emphasis on what you’re listening to and how you listen

    • @Rwer1234
      @Rwer1234 2 роки тому +12

      People are not talking about how the music took these kids to a different place emotionally. Add thousands of other feeling what you're feeling. Amplifies everything

    • @darnelldarden9429
      @darnelldarden9429 2 роки тому +7

      It’s true when I listen to king Von and Durk it brings out a different side, I can’t listen to it for too long when I do

    • @SevenHunnid
      @SevenHunnid 2 роки тому +2

      I smoke weed & get high on my UA-cam channel plus i also do storytime videos

    • @Hendrixxx9427
      @Hendrixxx9427 2 роки тому +6

      @@SevenHunnid I respect the hustle lmao

    • @kyrone475
      @kyrone475 2 роки тому

      Not for me i can listen to any music and not feel that way 💭even wen im smacked at this point u cant speak for everyone anymore u can speak on wat u would feel

  • @skeyesk2717
    @skeyesk2717 2 роки тому +41

    Joe is lowkey right, his fans ain’t heard his voice literally in years. LOL

    • @KingNoah85
      @KingNoah85 2 роки тому +3

      Bruh this the first time I’ve actually agreed with joe 😂

  • @fortylovestyle2789
    @fortylovestyle2789 2 роки тому +46

    Appreciate the perspective of the entertainer. P.S...let Joe lead. When he's in his bag, he's in his bag.

  • @dalpowers
    @dalpowers 2 роки тому +16

    So glad y'all spoke on this! I was waiting!! Great Points Joe!!

  • @___sabr
    @___sabr 2 роки тому +21

    @JoeBudden: total appreciation for the entire breakdown. Pushing towards 60 and there during the beginning of Hip Hop in NYC anyone with the smallest of brains could understand the elite presentation. (Harlem is listening 🎧)

  • @abelm3629
    @abelm3629 2 роки тому +10

    This is what X tried warning parents with as far as frequencies and what frequencies artists might be feeding your kids

  • @EMI713_
    @EMI713_ 2 роки тому +11

    I ain’t gon lie joe I left you when you parted ways with Rory and mal, but you just brought me back with this take.. 🔥🔥🔥

  • @isaiahtaylor5200
    @isaiahtaylor5200 2 роки тому +19

    14:21 was a Travis pun that ish ain’t even plan for

    • @JS310
      @JS310 2 роки тому +3

      lmao seamless aswell but you just know he never meant it

    • @darnelldarden9429
      @darnelldarden9429 2 роки тому

      Word I did a double take to see if he said it on purpose

  • @211sweetypie
    @211sweetypie 2 роки тому +14

    Joe's narcissism shows when he's podcasting.

  • @mauriciorojasclaros2112
    @mauriciorojasclaros2112 2 роки тому +4

    Them: "i don't think its travis' fault, its because of the overcrowd, you cant control that"
    Travis: **encouraging people to sneak in after they ran out of tickets on social media**

  • @folkscrazyouthere3076
    @folkscrazyouthere3076 2 роки тому +10

    Ice plays devils advocate to the weakest situations. Watching a live doesn't give you full justice on what was going on .

  • @eski_truv
    @eski_truv 2 роки тому +49

    18:07 that’s not hip hop doing the mosh pitting. Travis’ fanbase goes way beyond hip hop. Those ARE the kids that do know how to mosh pit and come from that culture. You just probably shouldn’t mosh pit when there’s 50,000 people and there’s like there’s like 8 sections that are so full that no one can really move.

    • @biguglyting
      @biguglyting 2 роки тому +19

      Agreed. His demographic does not know a Nas record.

    • @krumshamim
      @krumshamim 2 роки тому +9

      There is a new demographic tho . It’s not just the ppl that listen to Nas no more. There is. Youth that grew up listening and they built different and don’t value what the previous generation valued. It’s a cycle.

    • @dazwhite2222
      @dazwhite2222 2 роки тому +10

      Travis is not hiphop

    • @gmorgcyborg
      @gmorgcyborg 2 роки тому

      @Maxine Shaw facts.. use to get crazy in the club but once people seemed to fall or be hurt the shit would stop till they moved out the way

    • @Osei_Bean_8ryant
      @Osei_Bean_8ryant 2 роки тому +1

      @@gmorgcyborg You're right. Lyrics like "so I go to my loaded tech 9 thats off in the trunk" were meant to go shoot somebody when you fall 😂

  • @dankchewy2699
    @dankchewy2699 2 роки тому +66

    The Devil did his work that night. Sad times we live in.

    • @luckysvn9376
      @luckysvn9376 2 роки тому +2

      There’s other entities other than the devil that are responsible or shit like this thought I’d add.

    • @harrissr.615
      @harrissr.615 2 роки тому

      @@luckysvn9376 like what/who? (Genuine curiosity)

    • @theghettoracle
      @theghettoracle 2 роки тому

      I do work every night, I just don't kill people and harvest their souls though(get over yourselves). Quite frankly I'm not all that interested in humans.
      I wish y'all would leave me the hell out of this, what occured that night were the results of negligence, hyperactive over stimulated drugged up and dehydrated raging ravers compacting each other like mindless idiots, poor planning, poor communication and organizing...
      Humans steady trying to blame me for the shit they're responsible for.

    • @theghettoracle
      @theghettoracle 2 роки тому

      @@luckysvn9376 Thank you, SIR!

    • @trishmagenta883
      @trishmagenta883 2 роки тому

      @@theghettoracle Huh?

  • @MFBOOM100
    @MFBOOM100 2 роки тому +13

    The JBP KILLING these takes 🔥🔥🔥

  • @xantastic6301
    @xantastic6301 2 роки тому +28

    Show could've been shut down as soon as they broke down those barriers

    • @jerseydevil1
      @jerseydevil1 2 роки тому +2

      And what you think would’ve happened after that ? The crowd who ignored stepping on people was just gone go home ?

    • @sublimelove23
      @sublimelove23 2 роки тому +1

      @@jerseydevil1 maybe they wouldve rioted, a lot of injuries, multiple arrests, but probably NO deaths. Xantastic is right, they shouldve cancelled everything the second they broke through those barries.

    • @jerseydevil1
      @jerseydevil1 2 роки тому

      @@sublimelove23 lmao bro if you think no deaths would’ve taken place with thousands of unhinged fans left astroworld and spilled into Houston you’re crazy , in the army ( I’m aware this isn’t the army but its kinda a great way to access wether or not you’re gonna do something) our action briefs consisted of if we weighed the pros and cons between each choice & tbh I’m not sure the best choice would’ve been shutting the show down

    • @lockietaliana2283
      @lockietaliana2283 2 роки тому

      @@sublimelove23 that’s where you’re wrong. If there’s riots, especially on the streets then Police are obviously going to get involved and you see what happens when violent kids meet American Police. People die. This festival was going to go one way or the other and I believe this could have been much much worse

  • @fararmedia2189
    @fararmedia2189 2 роки тому +10

    They talk over each other too much

  • @rikkidgermano9640
    @rikkidgermano9640 2 роки тому +26

    It's crazy how they somehow find ways to justify Travis's behaviour. It is not that he was just the performer, it was also his festival. That means, his responsibility is beyond performance. I don't care if he stopped the show 1 or 2 times but he should've stopped it when he got approached by staff to stop the entire show because the backstage section was already filled with dead bodies and yet he still continued. No empathy, sympathie or excuses for this!

    • @josearellano3670
      @josearellano3670 Рік тому

      That’s just no true false info, if anything Houston PD should’ve stopped it

  • @XeroFailGames
    @XeroFailGames 2 роки тому +13

    No HE TOLD A SHIT LOAD OF PEOPLE TO SNEAK IN..

  • @kb.86
    @kb.86 2 роки тому +22

    16:30 that’s exactly what happened. My brother is a first responder in that area. They went to the promoters prior and they declined their service.

  • @AquaAlecia94
    @AquaAlecia94 2 роки тому +5

    Gov Ball has canceled many times for safety reasons, Rolling Loud also removed Cassonova and Pop Smoke last minute for safety reasons.

  • @williambennett9643
    @williambennett9643 2 роки тому +7

    They dropped the ball when you make only one entrance and one exit. People were caged in and couldn’t get to the exit because people in the back were rushing to the front so how people in the front suppose to get to the exit??

  • @Jr201079
    @Jr201079 2 роки тому +24

    I blame everybody but before the show was out of control…

    • @KPnDC
      @KPnDC 2 роки тому

      According. to the Houston Fire Dept, things went wrong at 8:15am when the Police radioed for their riot gear to be delivered to them.

    • @user-ik5ze1sh7i
      @user-ik5ze1sh7i 2 роки тому

      Also have to take into account the lock downs and how it primed us to be exploited at every level, from shifting us to a delivery only consumer base to everything

  • @22redwing93
    @22redwing93 2 роки тому +15

    Every time I see Travis Scott on video, he’s always treating people like shit.

  • @distinctlydri2831
    @distinctlydri2831 2 роки тому +5

    This event was staffed with more police and security than the World Series however they couldn’t tell the promoters that a mass event was going on for over 30 minutes. Festivals are different than concerts. This isn’t the first Astroworld either. Part of Travis persona is his social awkwardness.

    • @HueyFreeman_
      @HueyFreeman_ 2 роки тому +1

      I agree, but it gets very weird when people don’t understand this has been Travis persona since day 1 , they just assume he doesn’t care , I would ask tho .. how should someone respond on the internet to over 8 deaths , it’s a lose lose situation.

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 2 роки тому

      He seems DUMB to me....

  • @billyrich9965
    @billyrich9965 2 роки тому +4

    Since Rory and Mal left... This is the first JBP episode iv clicked on... Fact... And its just because I'm studying this case in detail and searching all the content on it I can... Not because I'm a Joe Budden fan

  • @danielcervantes5910
    @danielcervantes5910 2 роки тому +9

    What mainly caused the deaths was the layout of the stage. Even people before the concert were saying it wasn’t gonna work and people ignored it.

  • @WillEvans
    @WillEvans 2 роки тому +9

    30:55 LMAOO Joe got me crying 😭 “ohh yeah.. this incites a riot”

  • @edithali1263
    @edithali1263 2 роки тому +4

    Yeah people snuck in without tickets, but Travis Scott also encourage them to do that very thing before the concert. He said this whole recipe up to be a disaster… No doubt

  • @jesi2196
    @jesi2196 2 роки тому +3

    They are only sticking up for him because in the beginning of this video Joe said they work closely with Live Nation. Completely bias

  • @travisransdell5211
    @travisransdell5211 2 роки тому

    Me : Siri , play some Joe Budden
    Siri : Who?

  • @wharris123184
    @wharris123184 2 роки тому +3

    30:51-Parks: Same roller coaster. 😂😂

  • @anniebalsbaugh735
    @anniebalsbaugh735 2 роки тому +2

    I believe it's called rage, not just a stampede

  • @hardeeps5295
    @hardeeps5295 2 роки тому +2

    Joe be pulling numbers out his ass lmaoo

  • @jirias
    @jirias 2 роки тому +4

    lmao Ice's face at 19:15

  • @dankestranch8738
    @dankestranch8738 2 роки тому +27

    This is the best, most well researched take on this topic. Respect

    • @jasunsky3985
      @jasunsky3985 2 роки тому

      Do you watch Bro Sanchez on UA-cam?

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +7

      Well researched? They didn't talk about his horrible apology video (unless this came out before that?) Or barely talked about the things he tweeted, including the deleted ones he had. They barely held this man accountable for the partial blame that is on him.

    • @mattslocum5740
      @mattslocum5740 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnrossi6189 pretty sure it was before that happened because they only referenced the pr apology, he didn't come out with that video until a day or 2 later

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +1

      @@mattslocum5740 Ah gotcha.

    • @dankestranch8738
      @dankestranch8738 2 роки тому

      @@johnrossi6189 i think they did a much better job than other media. They mentioned it not being an 18+ event, "if my child died and I watched that apology it wouldnt alleviate my pain", they brought up the lyrics "it aint a moshpit if there aint no injuries", the understaffing and joe discusses that travis' fans dont know who he is because his team purposely hid that. I think it was a much more productive conversation than speculating on if travis saw people dying or not (which i believe he did)

  • @Lexiannasam
    @Lexiannasam 2 роки тому +23

    I was waiting for this from you guys.

  • @damiongreen5345
    @damiongreen5345 2 роки тому +25

    What about when they clearly seen the ambulance and he kept performing

    • @DYLWhk
      @DYLWhk 2 роки тому +3

      No excuse but he probably sees people passing out every show he does .

    • @QuaIityContent
      @QuaIityContent 2 роки тому +5

      @@DYLWhk How you gonna say no excuse then literally make an excuse for him. If you see an ambulance trying to get through to help someone you don’t perform another song and continue to hype the crowd up even more. And decent human being would have stopped the show and told the crowd to clear the way for the ambulance. Travis is a scumbag.

    • @marselisscott6702
      @marselisscott6702 2 роки тому +2

      @@QuaIityContent did that ambulance not look like a golf cart with lights on it? did you.not see fans on it and all around it? Thats why he said wtf is that? Then he asked if everyone was good and every put there arms up.

    • @sonyap8253
      @sonyap8253 2 роки тому

      @@QuaIityContent he is contracted to perform. He not tryna get sued. Performers are trained the show must go on. I am SURE the ambulance is just another day at the office for him 🤷‍♀️

  • @ThePriestessshood
    @ThePriestessshood 2 роки тому

    This invites a riot lol 😂

  • @koolhwhip2957
    @koolhwhip2957 2 роки тому +1

    A lot of great comments here n I’m hyped to add my input. Since Joe wants to cover everything so will I.
    1. “Ni**as die haha” yeah, people do die. Usually from bad intentions or negligence from self or others, which leads to 2.
    2. Sure the kids were negligent but let’s look at the big picture. What kind of music is being promoted that influence these young impressionable minds? sex, drugs, violence, and chaos.
    3. “Music is deeper, it has energy, frequencies.” What kind of energy are you promoting? Mosh, drugs, violence aren’t positive energies. You make and perform these songs knowing the content behind it. Energy doesn’t come from words but your spirit and it transfers. As a global idol, rapping negative energy to kids encourages them to behave how you tell them because you’re rich, famous, and popular. It’s simple psychology that people, especially teenagers will act what you portray because they subconsciously think if they act like that they’ll be like you and have all that you have.
    4. You’re an (influencer) as a career, so your influencing these behaviors. If I was a plumber and rated as the most popular and I told y’all adding faulty pipes is the way to go and many died, it’s my fault. I was either stupid or had I’ll intentions.
    5. “But all the money made from this”. This goes to greed and putting wealth over safety and human lives. Travis, you’re the puppet but you’re boss makes the agenda and his boss and his boss. You signed up to be the mascot for it and have money and fame because of it. It’s not only the rappers fault but EVERYONE in the entertainment industry promoting this lifestyle since Hollywood was a thing.
    Added note. The Illuminati was founded in the late 1700s and promoted many elites to this day because they were punished by the catholic priests seeing how they were a satanic cult. Notice how life has changed dramatically since then? Hollywood, cars, T.V’s, celebrities, fall of Christian views.
    Last note. At the end of the day, satan has been using others since the beginning of time and this is the last trick up his sleeve before time is up for him. Get right with god y’all, me included.

  • @sneakaholic011
    @sneakaholic011 2 роки тому

    oh god, that fruit stand line killed me lmao

  • @thatdrapergirl6834
    @thatdrapergirl6834 2 роки тому +4

    I hope these dudes on a limited contract because they are more of a nuance that cohost

  • @destined2bc972
    @destined2bc972 2 роки тому +14

    Great recap. I think coming back outside played a major role in the fall of crowd control.. dangggg 3something for a ticket is crazyyyyy. These mosh pits are definitely not for our Culture either. I wouldn’t attend one of these concerts for the Life of me. Still not blaming Travis tho.

    • @JimmyLaughsalot21
      @JimmyLaughsalot21 2 роки тому

      3sum for a ticket to a 2day festival to see Drake and Travis young thug Carti Uzi is not crazy

    • @marselisscott6702
      @marselisscott6702 2 роки тому +1

      @@JimmyLaughsalot21 Yo carti and uzi was there?

  • @ImBlackSnowTNA
    @ImBlackSnowTNA 2 роки тому +1

    Joe you wrong he talked in a Netflix documentary before

  • @mitchlamping530
    @mitchlamping530 2 роки тому

    I wonder how embarrassed those people who were jumping on those ambulances feel now

  • @tammyd4110
    @tammyd4110 2 роки тому

    Joe MUST you control the fucking conversation EVERY time???

  • @lifeofcoop252
    @lifeofcoop252 2 роки тому +5

    It’s 50 yr old experienced us VS these new generation festival goers. Our view don’t mean ish !!!! These kids lost. And my own kid is ready to rage at an upcoming 3 day festival in December. And where is the proactive announcements? Dammit.

  • @vtv626
    @vtv626 2 роки тому +1

    They finna hold travis scott more accountable than Donald Trump.

  • @eurasian55
    @eurasian55 2 роки тому +1

    He's been arrested TWICE for this exact reason. He egged on some fan to jump off and he's paralyzed. Really!! Now it's 9 people dead.. one is the nine year old little small boy with his dad. His dad passed out n his son got trampled. Its so breath breaking.. He surprised his son who loved Travis, got the Travis Scott McDonald's meal, shirts etc. His grandfather called Travis out.. I think he said if you were really sorry you'd be here. So sad. Travis egged his own fans on. He n the team are responsible. 10 young people are dead. It's so sad.

  • @NicoleOlivia
    @NicoleOlivia 2 роки тому +6

    I hope it don’t get worse, but it’s worse. Wow. Great segment ! I love the way Joe controls the convo. Sometimes they try to rush through it and it’s much better when Joe controls the convo to really help break down the situation. You did it Joe. 🖤

  • @thelittlegamingchannel
    @thelittlegamingchannel 2 роки тому +11

    one thing I miss about that Bumb Rory and Milli Mal, when Joe talked, they shut the Fuq up, they offered nothing. These dudes talk way to much for me.

    • @zetsutsuletsu2034
      @zetsutsuletsu2034 2 роки тому +4

      Nah Joe NEEDS to be cut off sometimes. There is a mutual respect here that was missing with Rory and Mal. I couldn't tell till these guys showed up but they were a toxic combo.

  • @bronxborn70
    @bronxborn70 2 роки тому +1

    The 9 year old boy died. This is getting worse the more they uncover shit.

  • @nonya5887
    @nonya5887 2 роки тому +2

    It's not about over selling tickets or any of that this is what u call a sacrifice...

  • @kelvin5830
    @kelvin5830 2 роки тому +3

    Joe be keeping it real.

  • @shannonsuo6970
    @shannonsuo6970 2 роки тому +3

    Travis, you're free to go.

  • @carlosvillarreal3610
    @carlosvillarreal3610 2 роки тому +2

    The real issue was all the barricaded

  • @kagisosebudiZA
    @kagisosebudiZA 2 роки тому +1

    Quite interesting to see a skeleton drawing on the wall with that message. 🤔

  • @Grace4_All
    @Grace4_All 2 роки тому +2

    Talk about the demonic aspect.

  • @Cocochantelle
    @Cocochantelle 2 роки тому +3

    I can’t watch Joe Budden. He just needs to have a show by himself if he won’t let anyone else talk or make their points. Why do these men continue to work with him and get sonned. Is the check that good?

  • @BreonTheSinger
    @BreonTheSinger 2 роки тому +6

    As a new producer that hasn’t dropped his ep yet… I get what you’re saying about the music formula 😭🔥it is like edm music but masked differently

  • @SaveRRx1
    @SaveRRx1 2 роки тому +6

    You should get a new group of “peers” 🤦‍♂️

  • @jamesmcdonald4891
    @jamesmcdonald4891 2 роки тому +5

    Joe being very careful with what he is saying about this, which is good to see. Respect for those whose lost their lives and to Travis.

  • @ikeasanders6211
    @ikeasanders6211 2 роки тому +1

    Joe you need to let ur staff state their opinions don't talk over them it is immature.

  • @darnelldarden9429
    @darnelldarden9429 2 роки тому +12

    Man Travis Scott’s response looked so fake and phony, he was rubbing his head and looking mad suspect.

  • @bmorecareful3723
    @bmorecareful3723 2 роки тому +2

    If people snuck in they should have shut the show down made everyone exit and then do a controlled reentry

    • @rootstriker1618
      @rootstriker1618 2 роки тому +1

      That would of took the entire night lmao

  • @piffnova
    @piffnova 2 роки тому +1

    yo can someone mute parks mic , like damn

  • @leafaroni3222
    @leafaroni3222 2 роки тому +15

    So nobody saw the clip of the 2 staff guys talking to Travis on stage and he shoo'ed em off saying "yea yea all that, all that. Who told me to stop? Yall know what yall came here for." And continued the show. He also pointed out fans climbing trees and that one that fell out, so he could clearly SEE things in the crowd. AND he tweeted the show is sold out but we gone still make sure the wild one get in, and encouraged folks to break in. HE IS AT FAULT

    • @drittzz9245
      @drittzz9245 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly highly disappointed in the position they took here. 30 minutes about money made and maybe 4 or 5 minutes on the loss of life 🤦‍♂️

    • @marxxxmusic2423
      @marxxxmusic2423 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed he is at fault but those were fans that were on stage for a “stage dive” they weren’t part of his team. They were strictly up there for jumping off of it and after the next song dropped those two jumped into the crowd. Not disagreeing, I thought the same thing. Just fact checking

    • @TMACBENZ21
      @TMACBENZ21 2 роки тому +6

      Bro Stop spreading misinformation yourself like a puppet, “he said two hands in the sky”, not “who told me to stop”, and he said two hands in the sky for the people about to Stage dive like the previous comment mentioned to you. Like bro did you even watch the stream or just cut tik tok clips?

    • @leafaroni3222
      @leafaroni3222 2 роки тому

      @@TMACBENZ21 you right, I just went back and listened to it. It really did sound like he said who told me to stop tho tbh. The rest of my points still stand tho

    • @leafaroni3222
      @leafaroni3222 2 роки тому

      @@marxxxmusic2423 you right, I just went back and listen a couple more times.

  • @reneesantiago6496
    @reneesantiago6496 2 роки тому

    Parks not on camera but always butting in.....is ANNOYING!!

  • @dopestdailydrivers2214
    @dopestdailydrivers2214 2 роки тому +1

    I think the dude in the middle just wants a show by his self. Let your people talk too dude damn.

  • @bikezthenightstalker.3134
    @bikezthenightstalker.3134 2 роки тому

    “Fam it’s a bigger take than Money Hiest”

  • @johnrossi6189
    @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +5

    I don't know Ish...yeah people snuck in and people bum rushed the barricade but you forgot to mention who told them to, or who said "true fans will find a way in anyways." I'm not saying Travis is fully to blame but he deserves some of the blame.
    It's also unfair to fully blame security because they were prepared for *50k people* not *200k* but I do agree they should have been prepared for it and hired more incase something goes wrong. (like Travis telling people to sneak in)

    • @biguglyting
      @biguglyting 2 роки тому

      Show where he told people to sneak in. Link it below. I'm curious to know given his previous arrest, why wasn't he arrested for inciting this as you claim. Especially given 9 deaths.

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +1

      @@biguglyting He deleted them but dude just Google it, everyone has been saying it. He tweeted saying "The show is sold out but the wild ones will still get in" dude stop being purposely ignorant.

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому

      @@biguglyting He was sued for inciting riots at his show multiple times which led to one person being paralyzed and still hasn't been arrested so that's a dumb reason to say it can't be true.

    • @biguglyting
      @biguglyting 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnrossi6189 Of course the artist contributes to the energy and anticipation of the show. That's marketing and performing. But from your description it appears he should've been arrested before he performed. When those kids were ruthlessly breaking down gates from his "instruction".

    • @johnrossi6189
      @johnrossi6189 2 роки тому +2

      @@biguglyting I never said he should be arrested nor that he is 100% at fault. I don't think he should be arrested, I just think he isn't sorry for what happened and is only trying to save face. I just hope this is a lesson for him and he learns to stop doing what he does at every shows and take it more serious.

  • @yourdopeauntie8130
    @yourdopeauntie8130 2 роки тому +1

    I'm a Houstonian who drove by NRG before the concert began. There were hundreds of police officers there....but many of them were blocking streets and monitoring the outside of the arena...It really did not look like they were inside the event. I believe that was just the personal security.

  • @followthebluebutterfly
    @followthebluebutterfly 2 роки тому

    While I personally wouldn't take a nine-year-old child to Travis Scott's AstroWorld Festival , I saw a video of the website where the FAQ section stated the event is quote "fun for all ages"

  • @keithwilliams1018
    @keithwilliams1018 2 роки тому +2

    When it comes to this.....LISTEN to JOE he been in the industry

  • @kb.86
    @kb.86 2 роки тому +1

    There were 600 private security and less than 300 HPD.

  • @theriansadventure
    @theriansadventure 2 роки тому +1

    The presenter in the middle is not cut out for this. It’s a one way show. He’s overpowering, dictatorial and close minded. He won’t let others talk or even hear what they have to say when they do get a word in. I can’t watch it….got about 4 mins in and felt so frustrated!

  • @SirSerendipitous
    @SirSerendipitous 2 роки тому +8

    It’s not even Travis fault

    • @ebwork3729
      @ebwork3729 2 роки тому +6

      It’s partly his fault

    • @SirSerendipitous
      @SirSerendipitous 2 роки тому +5

      @@ebwork3729 partly but people making him look like a damn demon.

    • @rjm809
      @rjm809 2 роки тому +1

      @@SirSerendipitous I mean that part where he was singing “yeaaaa “ clearly looking directly at a dead body being crowd surfed to the medics

  • @kittervision
    @kittervision 2 роки тому +9

    You don't blame him because a shitload of people snuck in because he told them to sneak in? Travis encourages people to crash the shows ar so it makes no sense to not blame him if he's the one encouraging the behavior that put everyone at risk.

  • @soldadojose411
    @soldadojose411 2 роки тому +1

    I cant believe people still watch this podcast

  • @inconsistentinternetvideos
    @inconsistentinternetvideos 2 роки тому +2

    My man said “this is a 50,70 million dollar event”
    “We’re talking from the gate money $150 million”
    “Bro this is a half a billion dollar event”
    In a matter of 10 seconds what is you talking about, $360 tickets multiplied by 100,000 is 36 million + Merch and other shit yeah we’re looking at 60-75 million....
    But that’s before expenses for artists, venue hire, staff, facilities, travel and taxes, wtf is this dude on about half a billi

    • @julianlloyd5569
      @julianlloyd5569 2 роки тому

      I think he was counting in a sense of if both days of the festival happened

    • @rjm809
      @rjm809 2 роки тому +1

      You did all this to be technical just to agree with them after all is said and done hundreds of millions were made .

    • @krumshamim
      @krumshamim 2 роки тому

      He was saying just gate prices alone not including merch, concessions, artist and all that stuff

  • @chuckallstar1281
    @chuckallstar1281 2 роки тому +1

    Volume on 1 and Joe is still loud as f*ck

  • @phemomashiqa1474
    @phemomashiqa1474 2 роки тому +33

    Things went bad for travis when he associated himself with that other family!!!ask tyga and lamar odom am done here

    • @distinctlydri2831
      @distinctlydri2831 2 роки тому +4

      Lamar was already a drug addiction and Tyga didn’t have the best track record of decision making prior to dating a Kardashian 🙄

    • @DiDie43
      @DiDie43 2 роки тому +5

      Oh and Let me guess.... it was also Kim kardashians fault when kanye went on the stage with Taylor swift even tho he was dating amber rose right? Smh brutha plz✋

    • @goldchef2754
      @goldchef2754 2 роки тому +1

      @@DiDie43 Kanye is undefeated tho.

    • @marselisscott6702
      @marselisscott6702 2 роки тому

      @@DiDie43 People just be trying to sound smart on the internet

    • @marselisscott6702
      @marselisscott6702 2 роки тому

      @@DiDie43 i agree like c'mon blaming the kardashians smh

  • @4TFInfamous
    @4TFInfamous 2 роки тому +8

    I like this show wit ish and them way better no cap salute my guys 💯