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It is not just that he said it, it is HOW he said it, with a relief to his voice that is near impossible to fake. It was like his sub-conscious spoke out loud.
I see it a little differently, Jones feels that J8 on the flop is quite strong heads up. I could see J9 and JT as the only hands that beat him that call because of the statement he made. Jones figures QJ and EVERYTHING better Weinman is gonna call anyhow (which is what actually happened in the hand). Now with that statement made Weinman may call with J7, J6, J3, TT, 99, 88, 77 and 66 all of which Jones beats. 🤷🏻♂️ who knows.
did they cost him 12 million? no, because he was playing for only 6 million price difference. did it cost him 6 million? no because there is no guarantee that he would have taken first price even if his opponent would have folded. did it cost him 3 million? don't think so because even if he didn't say anything it's possible that his opponent would have called. was it a mistake to say this? yes. was it the most expensive mistake ever? no, I'd say the 88 shove earlier was worse for example.
That dude was just snap going with his gut a lot, a few times it worked out but man really took "go with your gut" and "do it instantly" way too far. One of the sickest and dumbest ICM punts I've ever seen but a 3rd place is still pretty damn good.
I think he was just overly worried he would get snapped off and was genuinely relieved when he wasn't. Didn't consider the consequences of articulating this thought before blurting it out. In the end it most likely changed nothing other than save Weinman a bit of stress before what he was most likely doing anyway.
the biggest take away from this is that there are no right way to play Jiggities....all you can do is shove them and pray...once in a while you drll a set and take down a WSOP Main event title a short time later
I think the bigger tell is that he tanked for 4 minutes. Who is going to Hollywood THAT long with a big hand? Yeah, the comment helps but that tank should be the more important factor.
I'm sure a poker channel didn't think he needed to explain such a well known phrase in poker. "Feels good to fade the snap" just means feels good that the other player didn't instantly call. If the players calls instantly after he shoved all in, he might think his hand is just beat. The reason this was a tell is because it seemed he was being genuine and it wouldn't make sense to be relieved that the other player didn't instantly call if he had the nuts (hand that couldn't be beaten). He basically made it clear that his hand wasn't super strong by saying this.
@@eoinj16 Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it! 👍🏻💫 Cause without context, even beginners to poker would have difficulty understanding the significance
So wild they leave such huge gaps between prize pools. Could have easily made it 10,8 and 6. No reason for there to be such an emphasis on heads up when both players made it through 8,000 players.
They just really wanted to advertise it as "The biggest WSOP prize", so they made it $100,000 more than the 2006 WSOP Main Event prize. Which is extremely top-heavy
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It is not just that he said it, it is HOW he said it, with a relief to his voice that is near impossible to fake. It was like his sub-conscious spoke out loud.
He thought he didn't have a jack as that should've been a snap call but...
thats exactly what I thought too, you just basically gifted your opponent you don't have a set or top two
"If you call, it's all over baby!"
All in with pocket 8's is crazy and I think most would fold, just a bad call and GTO wiz shows lol
It was not a call it was a shove donkey watch the vid. And its a call or fold for 27M terrible shove unless your billionaire
top pair good kicker + he covers him + the verbal tell = EZ call for the win
Don't think Weinman would've folded even if his opponent stayed silent tbh
Exactly and it wasn’t for his tournament life he was a 2/1 chip leader
losing your fold equity to your own tells is a valuable lesson to learn
I see it a little differently, Jones feels that J8 on the flop is quite strong heads up. I could see J9 and JT as the only hands that beat him that call because of the statement he made. Jones figures QJ and EVERYTHING better Weinman is gonna call anyhow (which is what actually happened in the hand). Now with that statement made Weinman may call with J7, J6, J3, TT, 99, 88, 77 and 66 all of which Jones beats. 🤷🏻♂️ who knows.
did they cost him 12 million? no, because he was playing for only 6 million price difference. did it cost him 6 million? no because there is no guarantee that he would have taken first price even if his opponent would have folded. did it cost him 3 million? don't think so because even if he didn't say anything it's possible that his opponent would have called. was it a mistake to say this? yes. was it the most expensive mistake ever? no, I'd say the 88 shove earlier was worse for example.
That's my favorite thing too say when my opponent is tanking 😅
I say it when I'm super polarized
I had to think about the words carefully before I figured out the meaning. Great live read and call
The JJJ hand proves why he is on team lucky
True
That could easily be a reverse tell. Ive seen it on more than one occasion but its always been older players that uttered it.
Dident they agree on a more favorable split of money while heads up? So the pay out difference was not correct as you said in the video
No. Weinman has done interviews specifically saying they didn’t. He did hedge though with outside investors.
5:30… what the fook is Jamie Gold standing there for??
I’d be annoyed if Jamie Gold was trying to photobomb mu WSOP main event win…
Because he was one of the presenters.
@mjriemen Seeing the pic for the first time it's obvious to anyone with a brain that he was a presenter
That shove with 88 was insane. I watched it live and it happened so fast I had to rewind and slow mo to see the action.
The cameras couldn’t keep up lol
That dude was just snap going with his gut a lot, a few times it worked out but man really took "go with your gut" and "do it instantly" way too far. One of the sickest and dumbest ICM punts I've ever seen but a 3rd place is still pretty damn good.
@@itskmillzYeah he was doing some nuts stuff. Basically a 3 million dollar punt
It's the camera what done it. If it weren't televised he wouldn't have said anything.
You’d think he’d feel less comfortable 🤔
I really do think the camera causes people to say things they otherwise wouldn't. As if they have some obligation to fill the dead air on camera.
I think he was just overly worried he would get snapped off and was genuinely relieved when he wasn't. Didn't consider the consequences of articulating this thought before blurting it out. In the end it most likely changed nothing other than save Weinman a bit of stress before what he was most likely doing anyway.
Lol. That my favorite sentence, when I have the nuts. Result oriented
For real agreed
yeah lol. he might´ve said the same thing if he had a set of 22 or 55, or any 2 pair lol
the biggest take away from this is that there are no right way to play Jiggities....all you can do is shove them and pray...once in a while you drll a set and take down a WSOP Main event title a short time later
Pocket 8s 4 bet jam in the MAIN 3 handed is abhorrent, abominable, and insane
So funny. I always use this line when I have the nuts and shove. Gets me paid a lot.
That’s next level
These top 3 players all played terrible. Crazy how bad they are and in a 10k tourney
Gotta run good to win the main too
btw Walton was nutz all final table, it finally caught up to him
Was good in lots of ways. Super confident until then…
It's shocked and awe. The cash is fake so there is no reason to use a loaded gun :p
I think the bigger tell is that he tanked for 4 minutes. Who is going to Hollywood THAT long with a big hand? Yeah, the comment helps but that tank should be the more important factor.
Good point. Would be great reverse tell too lol
He tanked the last 2 days of FT it was annoying how slow he played
Actual video starts at 4:00
He fked up!
Obv they worked out a deal before this hand
Playing way too lose to not have lol. If not that guys a complete moron.
Apparently not
It would have been actually helpful if you explained what his statement even means. Cause I still have no idea
I'm sure a poker channel didn't think he needed to explain such a well known phrase in poker.
"Feels good to fade the snap" just means feels good that the other player didn't instantly call. If the players calls instantly after he shoved all in, he might think his hand is just beat.
The reason this was a tell is because it seemed he was being genuine and it wouldn't make sense to be relieved that the other player didn't instantly call if he had the nuts (hand that couldn't be beaten). He basically made it clear that his hand wasn't super strong by saying this.
@@eoinj16 Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it! 👍🏻💫 Cause without context, even beginners to poker would have difficulty understanding the significance
Thanks for the feedback
4:38
I DUN KNOW HW IT B WUT IT IZ BUT HE DNT SNAP DOE ☠️☠️ FRFR ONG
Bruh
It's a call anyway makes no difference if he said anything to him he's got to call
No
So wild they leave such huge gaps between prize pools. Could have easily made it 10,8 and 6. No reason for there to be such an emphasis on heads up when both players made it through 8,000 players.
Yes there is. Pure 1v1; they had the option to ICM chop they both decided to play for the big #1
They just really wanted to advertise it as "The biggest WSOP prize", so they made it $100,000 more than the 2006 WSOP Main Event prize. Which is extremely top-heavy
Reach
Clickbait total garbage....
I don’t like Wineman just cuz that JJ should’ve been an EZ fold…poker is stoopid