The Future of Smartphone Cameras? Sony Xperia 1 IV!
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2022
- Sony might be onto something here with the Xperia 1 IV...
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I love how Sony keeps their classy elegant design. No notch, simple camera arrangement
Also notification light, i wish Sony didn't leave from my country.
I like how monolith it looks, a nice break from mostly rounded phones pretty much everywhere that making them look almost similar to each other. Well iPhone recently also have flat sides as well, so that basically makes up 2 in the market, but Sony Xperia is sharper and no notch. Just a sleek slab of a smartphone.
And they keep the head phone jack
That design language is one of my favorite for Android phones. Sony always keep their phone boxy and classic. Just a simple rectangular piece of machine.
It's actually made my upgrade choice ridiculously hassle free overthe last few years. Once I filter out notches, no expandable storage and jack-less handsets, the options I have with my provider are pretty much Sony. I've been happy with them to date and am looking at Sony again this time around.
I love how Sony has just been quietly making phones that are actually really quite amazing. Couldn't care less about the top/bottom bezels too
That won't come out for months . I think the pre order for this on best buy is in August if I remember
I genuinely love Forehead and Chin bezels because of how comfortable it is to hold and I don't have to worry about accidentally inputting any touches.
they always made great phones. it weird that ive literally never seen a sony phone commercial or ad
I don't even notice the bezels on my Xperia 5III. What I do notice are the dual front facing speakers and notification LED. Two of my favorite features on a phone
@@Yoko.Kurama Not always though. The earlier Sony phones/Xperias were more miss than hits. It is after they started working together between phone and camera (alpha) division that things have started to improve considerably.
Sony is insane as usual. They keep fighting all trends and going their own way, I wish we will see more cool stuff from Sony in few years. Even though their tech are not for mass-users
That's what was so great about LG, but no one bought those phones... I wish Sony didn't release their flagships on the tail end, while all others are getting ready to announce their next year's phone.
sony used to be a good company, but now, forget it. especially in mobile phones, why bother if you are not interested in the business, just wasting money and prolong your end...
What's wrong with their tech?
Isnt their censor tech in pretty much all high end smart phones?
@@MustafaAli-lb8dq Sony is known for bad buggy experience with the OS , the camera and cpu highend are nice but heated up very fast, if they support the OS like Samsung and apple did, i Will considered buy Sony Smartphone, but when i Saw a lot of other review its so bad that the phone keep turning off because it can't handle the heat from the camera image or video processing , it just bad software
Sony will be my next phone after my note10. Has a JACK, no notch, led notification better camera, expandable memory without needing a tool to open it, 4k screen, better speaker and camera shutter. Also doesn't look ghastly like most new phone.
Its expensive AF though
Yup. Plus, if you're into music and especially if you have hifi headphones, these latest Xperia phones output 24bit audio (if your streaming service of choice allows hifi audio) and they also have some of the best Bluetooth codecs out there.
@@WinterReflections can the jack on the experia power 250 ohm headphones? I'm into music and this phone seems perfect in the future.
@@MrLeSa95 yes, very expensive. 512gb is 1600$. 256gb seems good compared with other brands.
Same here, the Jack is the seller for me.
Something about the matte black and the camera module, I think this phone looks really clean!
❤️🎯
I like the back look so much , but the front doesn't look good. It's not the bezels themselves , rather the bezels being a bit out of line or something
Elegant would be the correct word 😁 that's why I like them, but they kinda going overboard with the pricing I think.
Agreed, it's a breath of fresh air compared to the 'busy' designs found on most Android smartphones these days. In a market where Android phones stand out with decorative designs and over-the-top camera islands, Sony stands out by doing the exact opposite, so kudos to Sony.
You look really clean
I still love the Xperia phones on what they offer:
- Stereo Front facing speakers
- The famous jack
- microSD slot
- Finger print in power button (the best location)
If only they still made the high end compact ones :'(
The 5 series is the little brother of the 1 series. Flagship specs at a smaller scale. Has a few downsides though, like a 1080p display instead of 1664p, but it keeps the same processor. The 5 IV will be unveiled later in the year.
Gotta respectfully disagree with the powerbutton. I am a proud owner of a 5 mkIII and the amount of times i have accidentally unlocked my phone in my pocket is insane and it's SUUUPER annoying. The detection if the phone is in your hand or stored away isn't reliable at all. That's one of the few real downside of this phone, except a few software inconveniences where the UI/UX isn't built nicely. But for everyone who enjoys having native control and creative options with their phone camera, i cannot recommend this device enough.
P.S.: the 1080 screen is still so good that you don't see individual pixels until you're like 5 cm close to it
then just 2 years updates - photos in this IV camera look worse than from antique iPhone 11 (watch YT) price is like 2 iPhones
Explanation afterwards: the powerbutton/fingerprint sensor is on the side of the phone, so just by resting your Hand on the phone, you're much more likely to accidentally have your finger on the sensor, in contrast to when the sensor is on the Back or bottom of the screen. I'd really enjoy a subscreen sensor in the mkV
@@AppleReviews there is a thing you leave out of the equasion, its called computational photography. Its the "behind the scenes" work that an iPhone does to every picture you take via the image processor, it raises contrast, layers multiple differently exposed images to create HDR and uses AI to raise brightness on the subject and smoothes skin, as welll as adjusting the vibrancy and saturation of colors, without you asking, without a possibility to not use this. In the Sony Cameras you get a natural colored, flatter and less contrasted image, but for me that's exactly its special and advantageous position. My phone gives ME the control of how i want my photo to look and doesn't slap on a style made by some enigneer that "knows what people want their photos to look like". I can shoot raws easily, can adjust iso and shutterspeed in the normal, standard camera app, and use it as a creative tool, not just for snapchat and some landscape photos.
I've had the Xperia 1 IV basically since it released. I'm a software developer and tech enthusiast and use it as more as a poweruser tool than for content consumption or entertainment, it should also be noted than I've never owned or used a Sony phone before this one so here is my honest opinion about it from the point of view of actually living with it daily:
What I don't like:
- The rear LED is weak when using it as a flashlight. Just using max brightness on the screen let's me see more at night.
- Photos taken using the Basic mode are usually average or worse, although it's more than adequate for 90% of use cases
- Even though it can take videos at 4k 120fps, the built in camera app doesn't have slow motion or timelapse options. This sucks.
- You cannot use the phone as a wireless hotspot while connected to WiFi (for chaining or extending range) like some Xiaomi phones can. It's one or the other.
- Lack of any real fast charging can be a nuisance. Although having the wireless charging option is nice for keeping it topped up.
- Basic mode telephoto photos seem a bit washed out and fuzzy, but on closer inspection is still sharp. Just a weird effect.
- The "Ice White" colour is actually pale blue. Not really a con but I wish it was the colour I expected.
- I would really have liked a programmable button or to be able to re-map the shutter button when not using the camera app.
Now here's what I like:
- rgb notification LED, you don't realize how nice it is until you have it. Small quality of life improvement.
- Headphone jack, use it often and for high quality audio (the audio DAC is also really good and has an accurate response curve)
- The screen is amazing in terms of colour accuracy and especially resolution.
- Since the shape is so tall and narrow, the front facing speakers are further apart and give a noticeably clearer stereo effect when used horizontally
- Despite how bad auto mode is, photos taken with the manual mode can be absolutely insane. Approaching the quality of a dedicated mirrorless or DSLR and better than something you could get on a pixel/Samsung or iPhone for particular shots *if you put in the effort*
- Dual waterproof rating, IP ratings aren't cumulative so having the extra peace of mind is great. I've taken underwater videos several times now.
- Having a clean, no B.S, no bloatware Android version is very underrated. The added features are meh although I use the split screen quite often. Nothing beats the android experience on a pixel, but I would give this solid second place.
- The eye tracking autofocus is bonkers, both for video and burst mode photos. It can track anything with an eye even if it moves like a cat on crack.
- Clean design. Having no stupid looking notch or hole punch is a really big plus for me. The bezels are anyways very small and non-intrusive, it's something you forget until you use another phone and wonder why your brain is itching.
- Expandable storage is also a winner, I use it as an external SSD for my laptop and its nice to know that space will never be a limitation
- NFC and wireless charging are basically the only reasons I got the Xperia 1 IV instead of the Xperia 5. Not having to bring my wallet around with me is really convenient and keeping your phone almost fully charged and ready through the day is really neat.
I don't really play games or create content so I can't comment on that, but for daily use and even with processor intensive apps running split screen at 120hz it stays responsive and snappy and I've only ever had a heating issue once when filming video. Interestingly it didn't throttle or drop frames at all which is standard practice on most devices.
If I can summarize my opinion about the phone it would be that its extremely thoughtfully designed and very focused on "quality of life" aspects. More so than most other devices I've experienced. I really appreciate that Sony still sticks to a Kaizen philosophy and continue to make phones which are better and better. So much so that they are appreciated more and more by less and less people.
Good things to know, I'll get a Sony phone in the future. One day i may. And when I saw you write that they follow the kaizen way, I was like now that's a phone company I should stick with. So they are a bit like toyota then?
@@shanepatrick641 I've been using Sony phones for years now, and I have just ordered this one.
I honestly cannot bring myself to go back to any other brand! 😜😅
I absolutely love my Sony phones.
I really appreciate that your primary focus is technology and how it’s improving rather than phone specs. Phones should be about how well they can serve you rather than just specs.
What I want from this phone in other phones:
*- Headphone Jack*
*- Expandable Storage*
*- No Notch Design*
I agree
Keep dreaming
What i dont want from this in other phones:
$1599
@@whewmancool buy it used in a year for $700.
Unless you actually care about getting it new so late in September.
Bezels as well. It would be nice to have a phone that doesn't need a case to remain structurally sound.
Currently not a lot of zoom, but the technology potential for the future looks incredible
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Foldable is future. They have to make the best cams there with one side slim one side thick than they can manage it. It should happen soon. Ultra camon fold.. I'm stoked.
@@BackwardsKnees bro what
I'm surprised Samsung wasn't first. All they ever talk about is the zoom on their phones.
did people forget the s4 zoom ?
I guess why SONY can do this is because they're one of the biggest CMOS producers rn... they make good cameras and even my Nikon mirrorless camera has a SONY sensory if I remember correctly; which means they can hopefully do something with the sensor to make it more efficient. Basically, if you want a wide focal length range, the sensor has to be small. (for example, an 80mm lens for a smaller aps-c crop-frame camera can be made smaller than the one for a full-frame camera)... aka if the same pixel specs, fitting more pixels into a smaller sensor space; which usually leads to poorer image quality because of...umm physics.
True
Most befitting, precise, convincing and professional compliments...
Thanks a lot!
Sony really needs to step up their branding when it comes to their phones, because they have some real sleeper hits on their hands.
I know man, if only people saw more ads for Sony.
The problem is mainly the price and the really slow market availability.
Let's just appreciate, *Sony* being one of the few companies still making *radical* design / hardware changes -- I'm not disproving other companies, but they stick to incremental improvements (which makes sense)
Because they are still searching for a winner..
yes! I love that they try to avoid what doesn't make sense (while pretending it does) and add/remove features just because others are doing it. You get the feeling that they try to evaluate every feature allowed on their phones (like the iPhone) although I do get the iPhone criticism and sometimes agree with it but you have to give it to them when it comes to decision-making, having a view of your own as a brand.
Sony gets my respect in that regard, e.g the decision to go with side fingerprint sensor rather than in-display fps even tho it's a trend associated with other premium phones. If it doesn't make sense to them, they avoid it.
Yeah, It's not like same companies like SAMSUNG are literally creating a whole new phone design with Foldables right?? Samsung is innovating a lot more than Sony.
@@AndreVictorGoncalves Foldies and such are also cool and very innovative! But not what I classify as a “phone” :D But I respect your opinion!
@@MPD90 I don’t know, is it? :D
Thanks a lot for the info!
Really appreciate it!
As the owner of an Xperia 1 iii, I'm pleased to see the progress of the Sony phones. Hopefully, when the time comes for me to upgrade, my next phone will be another Sony. I hope they will continue to offer the headphone jack and sdcard slot as those are and will continue to be essential for me.
Thank you MKBHD for your review!
How has the software experience been (performance, updates)? And battery life in long term (does it last a whole day)? Would be lovely to hear from a person who uses it as their daily driver.
@@1hasingh I've been updated to Android 12. Sony issues security updates better than Samsung. The battery won't last for more than a day with normal use but it hasn't been a problem the way I use it. Overall, I am happy with it.
@@1hasingh This is my first Sony phone that I have owned and I've had this phone for awhile now. It has been updated to Android 12 and has had plenty of security updates. I can get it to go more than a day even on high refresh rate but that's when I am not on it all the time during the day. The phone still runs super smoothly too. An app that has been giving me issues is Spotify but that has been it. Not having a ton of bloat over stock Android has been awesome as well.
The only irritating issue I have had is the finger print unlock sometimes not working but overall, I am so happy with this phone and when I need to upgrade, I will be upgrading to another Sony if they keep most of these: SD card, headphone jack, no notch, stereo speakers, the camera system, and fingerprint unlock on the lock button.
Thank you, sounds like a very acceptable experience.
Have you ever had any problem with 5g connection in your Sony, I was about to buy a Xperia 1 Mark 3 a couple of years ago on eBay but the guy selling it stated that it wouldn't connect to the US networks because the phone lacked the specific band for the US, I had an xperia xz 2 premium which I loved and wanted to upgrade to another Sony and because of that didn't do it, now I wanna buy a Sony 1 lV but I just wanna be sure that I won't have any problem with the network.
Glad to see Sony getting their shine, hopefully we see them in the Smartphone Awards this year
Not with this pricing
@@kpehe100 well, according to their website they've gotten awards
@@kpehe100 the price is fine.
In microsatellites, there's this type of optic called a monolithic telescope. Despite the name, they're actually really small and efficient ways to get high amounts of zoom in a small package. Wonder if we'll see that in smartphone tech
The advantage of a monolithic telescope isn't it's size, it performs just as good/bad as a regular telescope of the same size. The advantage is that it is robust and won't go out of alignment with vibrations and temperature fluctuations. Which could definitely be a bonus for smartphones, but it won't do any image magic.
Didn't Huawei make a phone that did something to that effect? It had like 100x zoom w a periscope style lense that was mirror-based iirc
@@rickeykoga2312 that's still separate pieces of glass, what Mellow is talking about is having one piece of glass with all the mirrors ground into it.
Variable zoom would be impossible with such an optic.
@@rickeykoga2312 literally every periscope has "mirrors", I mean that's what makes it a periscope.
And Huawei did in fact debut (almost a year earlier) the 10x optical zoom (in the P40 Pro+) b4 Samsung did it with their S21U.
Huygens Optics made a few videos about this if anyone wants to learn more about monolithic Schmidt Cassegrain telescopes.
Ahhh you got Daft punk helmets in the background
They are my fav duo
I need them😩
Glad to see those in your video
Simple, honest and right to the point review. That's why you are the best! Thanks
Three cameras is the perfect combo. Ultrawide, standard, then something like a 2x to 8x. One thing to consider here, is that you can't beat single length lenses for ease of manufacturing and higher quality optics. Zooms are always a compromise, especially when you try to cram in big multiplication. So having those 2 primes will give you the best quality for shots for those pictures that don't need a lot of reach.
I wish more companies could be like sony by keeping the headphone jack, no notch/hole punch, expandable storage and the tool-less sim card/sd card removal tray.
Would love to have a Sony phone again, but unfortunately it's no longer available in my country ☹️
Have you tried to buy online? That's what I did
The fact that they're able to accomplish variable focal lengths that smoothly in something that small is incredible by itself.
Watching this on my Xperia 1 II and it was the first time I spent 1200€ on a smartphone ( highest I had paid was 450€) but I don't regret it and don't think I'd change for the next 3 years. Its still smooth af and camera still impresses me.
Quality over quantity seems to be Sony's moto and they are classy, elegant but efficient with their designs. Not perfect (brightness in the mark 2 is bad, and side fingerprint sensor aren't great) but they improve with every edition.
No notch, stereo speakers, headphone jack, great camera, screen, audio and video quality enhanced with their codec packs.
The day I change phones, you better believe it'll be a Sony.
Too bad the stabilisation for the video isn't up to expectation. I've switched from my xperia 1 ii back to LG V50s which I have used for almost 2 years.
Imagine a 0.7-3x and a 3x-8x two camera zoom setup. Assuming good glass that would be pretty fantastic in terms of everyday performance. That could equate to a 18-75 and a 75-200mm equivalent.
I don't think it would happen anytime soon.
Companies will not stop using multiple cameras as a gimmick as its easy do so.
Plus making a moving lens is expensive rnd
When calculating these equivalents, are we talking full frame or cropped censor?
@@bramcallaert7828 I'm estimating the fov for a full frame. I started with an 18mm equivalent wide angle which is about 90-100 degrees. Some of the mobile phone sensors are closer to 114 which is about a 12-14mm lense on a FF. The calculations of the 18-75mm was just an example of common lens zooms (more typically 28-70, and 70-200) for FF cameras.
Exactly what I was thinking
@@marksteudlein1832 it's better to keep the main camera and ultra wide as prime lenses for wide apertures for low light quality.
Great review, thanks for your time.. Ordered mine few days ago.. can't wait to play with it... Just 3 more weeks.. 🤩
8:18 I appreciate your taste in music brother
I'm so intrigued by this. The number of cameras on the back of phones is getting a little ridiculous. Would be amazing one day if you could get back to 1 that could optically zoom from ultra-wide to 5x zoom
that's literally what I was thinking since Sony announced that 1iv!!
What is the problem in multiple cameras in a phone. It gives you different functionality. Maximum people don't have problem on multiple cameras.
@@SouravGorain-gk5pb what do you mean "maximum people"?
That's impossible
Basically impossible unless u put in the camera like dslr, which is a huge bump can be seen
The Xperia 1 II has been an amazing experience. I'm not sure I can go to any other phone brand at this point. Sony is killing it
Is it worth the $1600 to you? This is the phone I'm most interested in, but the price jump from Pixel Xa-series is substantial.
Do you use it?
@@DaneJacobsonMD it's definitely a tough sell. My plan was to keep it for at least 5 years, so it pays for itself in that way.
I have actually used the camera features (not a pro) and it's nice to have the extra options. SD card slot is great (I use it to quickly transfer GoPro vids) and headphone jack has saved me many times when others phones don't have them. The OS is basically pure Android, with some very minimal customization here and there that are actually useful.
Aspect ratio is awesome for content, and performance is more than enough. If you're buying it only for two years then I'm not sure. I don't think anyone needs to upgrade every two years anymore anyway.
@@ahmedaziz8660 yes, been using it for two years now
Thank you for your sharing to all us
Great Video.
85-125 is the perfect focal length range they could've chosen. You can go from waist up portraits to face shots easily. Or have a very usable focal length in the 85mm that zooms into a focal length that's less usable for most situations but nice for far away shots in the 125mm.
85mm is also the most common portrait lens, less distortion than 50mm.
@@donflamingo795 Yes I love my 85mm Sony lens for my Sony camera lol
It's either this or eventually a phone back littered with lenses all over
I would rather have five primes that a zoom...
@@mark314158 how so?
Imagine the possibilities in the future, 1 amazing sensor that can zoom and maybe even a mode for ultra wide. instead of 1 good regular sensor and then mediocre sensors for ultrawide/zoom etc...
@@JontesTechTips I assume they mean because prime lenses are traditionally much better quality than zoom lenses in cameras because of physics. Professional photographers tend not to use telephoto lenses unless they have to.
Having said that smartphone camera sensors are laughably bad right now, the only reason the end result looks good is because of the ridiculous amount of postprocessing. So the difference in lens quality is probably going to be negligible compared with the sensor and processing algorithms.
A good sensor with a OKish zoom is gonna be better quality than the 4 crappy sensors with different very cheap prime lenses on that I have on my phone rn….
I wouldn't mind either
Just got the phone, loving it so far!
Finally a great and exhaustive video on a very interesting topic. For photos I don't use the smartphone anymore since I've got my Fuji APS-C mirrorless camera. For videos I still prefer smartphone cameras since it's all automatic and I don't want to to shoot manual mode on videos, as I do for photos.
in all honesty, the Sony phones are some of the most beautiful hardware designs out there. the pixel 4 and 4xl were top tier for hardware design, but then there is Sony phones that have always had beautiful design for android phones.
I absolutely loved my Pixel 4 XL. easily the best phone I've ever used with the exception of horrendous battery life.
@@adnamamedia same here. I loved the size of the pixel 4 but the battery got to me so I got the 4 xl and it was the best phone I have had. im on apple now and if the battery life was better, it would be enough to make me go back to android😂
@Zaydan Naufal the librem 5 looks like shit. just get a pixel and boot it up with graphene os
@Zaydan Naufal Lmao Librem phones are absolute dogshit
Galaxy S22 has the best design tho.
Literally the only thing that has kept me from trying a Sony phone in the last couple years is the price tag. I AM the enthusiast type that digs pro style camera controls, shutter button and headphones jacks, but Its SOOO hard to justify spending that much money on a phone.
Exactly my problem as well, and their software support window is only 2 years.
If this thing was selling for $1,200 I'll buy it..
@@GeneralChaz9 ok…only two years of Android updates…? Are you sure?
@@BertoJA876 with 512gb? You sure? People like to forget that the starting price of S22U and 13 Pro max is able to be that low only because they start at 128gb, with no SD card slot, you'd kill that storage in just a couple hours recording 4k120fps footage.
@@cundinamarca8 It was confirmed to be 2 years for the Xperia 1 iii, would not be surprised if it were the same here.
don’t even watch you that much but ty for starting the actual vid 3 seconds in, good stuff
One of the best reviews and analysis I have seen.
Rocking the Xperia 1 III. Freaking love it. Everyone always compliments the photos I take with it. And the manual mode is just awesome to have. You can get any shot you want. The display and speakers are great. If you want a great all around package, Sony makes great devices
^This all day. I still rock 1 II and everyone just gawks over the photos I get. Learning M mode is unreal, I actually use the burst shots for sports or golf, and play with the white balance for sunset photos! - it's incredible!
@@mariusedmond9621 it really is! I had the initial Xperia one before this and couldn't pass up on it. The amount of control just keeps me going. I'll for sure be checking out the one V next year if they keep making that telephoto lens better. I use it all the time. The autofocus is too good
what about heating problem? I heard a lot about it - that's why I'm still using Xperia 1 II
@@dalekperov I haven't really had any issues. Personally if I go out for a shoot, I put my phone in airplane mode. Alot of the overheating I had was due to Google backing up the photos as I took them and having poor network. When those aren't in the equation there aren't too many problems. For day to day shooting it's fine!
@@dalekperov Heating problems depend on the processor not Sony themselves. Snapdragon 888 is notorious for overheating issues. The only way you would overheat is if you're a heavy gamer or are using heavy apps. The Xperia 1 III came with the 888 but doesn't really have a problem with overheating.
I think this has a lot of potential. I still somehow would love to see a revival of the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom
was that the one with the 100x zoom?
I'm sort of amazed this hasn't been everybody's goal all along - my Sony T100 had an internal periscope zoom back in 2008, so it's mostly been a case of scaling it down (which I won't deny the difficulty of).
@@junoperberry 10x optical zoom, the same as Samsung's current phones
I assume you mean the S20/21/22 Ultra? I'm certain you don't mean the S4 from 2013
@@Ziffer777 pretty sure he's referring to the S4 zoom specifically since it's basically a camera
Really njoyed your indepth info on sony camera, not just like other youtubers taking it and making comparison video alongside samsung
My Xperia Ace III has a notch :) I've just upgraded from the Z5Compact after 5 years. Crazy how this entry level model is better in almost every way, even the size is tolerable, but I accept it as the battery lasts for more than 2 days of using GPS and everything. The only thing I miss is pretty much the stereo speakers
I think Sony has something good going for them right now : True to life photos.
The flagships from samsung, apple and Google almost mess with reality to get insane HDR and highest detail , and those photos look fake and over-processed.
But the reviewers won't state this as a +ve, instead they'll say that the iphones/samsungs take better photos "objectively" and that their auto/stock photos are better and they are reliable point & shoot cameras, directly uploadable to socials, etc, etc, etc!
Beauty filter automatically added i guess? They should add the dog face while at it 😂
A lot of us like fake things that are more enhanced than reality. Just look at how many body extentions and accessories you can find on ladies men find attractive.
yep , i use a pixel and i must agree all flagship nowaday tend to brighten up photo they look good but again not realistic, so what i usually do is take a photo and choose option jpeg+raw so i can get the raw file and edit them later in Lightroom mobile . usually reviewer always praise the phone that has good hdr... too bad most consumer only care about instant result and those hdr process images turn out by google apple samsung
Yap
Always been a fan of Sony, they're always ahead of the times. Glad they're still making phones
2 years of software updates. yep, ahead of the time
@@TheTornadoWind I mean their hardware is great, you can't expect 5 years of updates when their phones are such a niche product. They really don't know how to advertise
@@TheTornadoWind some people don't keep a phone for 2 years to notice. Who cares?
@@TheTornadoWind I mean that's one of the main consequences of being a small company. The mobile division of Sony is actually tiny to the likes of Samsung.
more like "tech demo" than phone
I recently started watching mkbhd and instantly became his fan 🥰
Good point w/ the telephoto
You forgot one of the most important features .... dual SIM / Micro SD card support :) Something Sony is also keeping in all their flagships :)
And the headphone Jack!!
@@shanepatrick641 yup
The funnel here is the aperture: more glass means usually less light at the longest extension of the zoom. Multi cameras will be the only viable option for a looong time.
Less refraction than the 0lastic lenses in other phones, too.
yeah, fixed focal length lenses are delivering the best quality for any system be it MFT, APS-C etc.
so the phone junkies got that and now they happily want to trash on it for a shitty optical zoom they could spare by walking 2m.
I wonder if this Sony has a fixed aperture throughout the zoom range?
Samsung used to have variable aperture cameras, they could maybe apply that tech here?
@@mhs21981 check 3:02, it does not
Hey mister ..just wanted to say you are just PURE CLASS… Thank you for your channel and your honest opinions..see you soon from a guy in Monaco
The analysing skills is on top 👌
I think I'm fine with multiple cameras. Imagine getting a 20-50mm zoom, then a 55mm prime, then like a 70-150mm zoom. That covers a brilliant range with a sort solid portrait lens in between
2cm camera bump here we come
@@chraman169 Honestly I wouldn't mind slightly thicker phones, I've never really understood why we wanted thinner and lighter. Especially if it allows for better camera tech I'd be more than happy with a large hump
@@dvdossbsvskfbdvav At least lighter is better if not thinner. Smaller [but larger enough for routine use] screen around 5.8-6 inches, thicker phone for battery and lens and weight around 180 will do.
@@chraman169 Phone makers are tryin to make their phones thinner and thinner but then the customer just buys the phone and puts in a thick af case anyway so what's the point, it's us who is getting the short end of the stick
At this point what makes you not want to just get a whole ass camera? I mean with those features, I can't imagine the phone not costing under 2.5k
Pro Tip: Preorder through Amazon UK or another EU retailer and import it with XM4 headphones as a bonus. Going this route will get you the phone in mid-June and with over-ear headphones as opposed to the US offer of earbuds and a September release.
I love my Xperia (Pro-I now, had the 5ii, xz2 compact, and z3v prior). I'm a huge Sony fan and rep. People are regularly impressed with it, especially the sound and the camera button.
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LG pioneered so much with quad DACs, tall screens,multiple cameras and kept the headphone jack and then they were gone. hopefully sony can be the one to keep ahead of the rest and prove that sony do have a strong pedigree when it comes to camera tech and indeed battery life.
They're already ahead on display, their Xperia 5 MK4 has a 4k display and 90hz
People have to buy their products if we want them to stick around in the phone game. LG makes tons of money because their components are in so many different places, but not enough people were buying their phones for them to justify using their budget on R&D, and that's why they folded. I really wish they could have stuck around, but people need to buy the phones if we want something quicker than the pace that Samsung and Apple will give us.
When they are around nobody gives a shit including MKBHD
LG also introduced a lot of gimmicks at the expense of themselves and sometimes the users . From what i have seen of the Sony they don't have any expensive gimmicks besides probably the 4k screen . Like Marques said, solid software experience that's consistently smooth without any hiccups , probably the best speakers and a headphone jack.
@@JetWarrior I mean most if not all Sony mostly sold in Japan in terms of phone trust me even the likes Samsung couldn't actually beat Sony in selling phones in Japan
Amazing job with this video! I wish Arun covered that innovative zoom lens more, as well as a few other cool things about the phone. Keep it up, Marques!
This phone looks amazing, and kudos to Sony for doing their own thing and doing it well- but $1600? Just... How?
You can find them for much less on eBay brand new. Same goes for the Xperia PRO 1 which is incredible for so many reasons and the best phone out there (literally the best) for people who make content or like taking videos, photos, making music, and listening to music. The better iPhones cost at least a grand, more for the pro max or whatever.
@@WinterReflections it isn't released yet....?
Love the inside story indup video on it❤💯
same ! But there is Something about the matte black and the camera design looks just perfect, I think this phone looks really clean! I currently have the 13 pro max and I would go for this design any day ! I will definitely be getting this phone to review on my channel
I think one major takeaway from this is that it's still pretty freaking amazing the type of images we can get out of tiny smartphone sensors. Especially when it's all captured optically without any AI helping out. It's nuts and I love it.
That's exactly 💯
Well even the most "bare" images you get out of your mobile will have some processing because the extremely small sensors, very small lenses and apertures means there is simply not enough light to produce a good image unless you are shooting in perfect intensive sunlight. So there is interpolation and processing done even when all AI features are turned off or not even available if the mobile is cheap enough.
What's really amazing is how good they have gotten at fooling us. But then even our own eyes fool us, or rather our brains does. Do you think your eyes see all you see? No I'm not paraphrasing the Matrix. Your brain is constantly running image processing on what your eyes are feeding you. I wouldn't be surprised if the same "software" is responsible for recreating the imagery in you memories. But hey I know computers and cameras, not the intricacies of the brain. But the thing is what you "see" is actually a composite of what your eye is actually seeing right now and what your brain cook up using experience and what your eyes recently sent over. It's kind of a temporal upscaling if you like.
Well the mobile cameras does something similar before even handing the result to the image processing software. Now if you look at a larger camera then the sensor will be many times larger than the one in the mobile. The lenses are also huge collecting a lot of light compared. And still low light photography is not easy requiring either long exposure or a lot of image processing to look decent. And yes that includes the latest tech cameras.
The overwhelming majority of smartphones are still doing a large amount of processing to the images even when you're shooting "RAW". If they didn't you would be getting an extremely noisy image with poor dynamic range, the sensors simply don't gather enough light.
There’s still a lot of processing lol. It’s just not overdone like apple and Samsung that sharpens the shit out of everything.
Sony has a lot of potential for smartphones, I'm looking forward to their next phones
I agree
Fr tho, they fumbled on the release date & not including a charger but still pretty impressive.
Yeah but they keep catering to the enthusiast crowd.
Also too bad there was no Xperia 5 IV this year, hopefully it comes back next year.
@@SonyEnthusiast Interesting content you got there, you know I'm something of a Sony Enthusiast myself 😁
I had 2 fairly early Sony Xperia phones and loved them.i think for 4 years all in and loved them.i was upgraded to Oppo find X recently,but still treasure my Sony,s.infact intentionally I have a Sony amp and TV now from the past 10 years.
How Many of you like Sony Xperia.
I wish other brands had continued to improve their smartphones over the generations like Sony is still doing, instead of chopping features one by one like expandable storage and the headphone jack (I'm looking at you, Samsung). I've always liked Sony phones, but they're too expensive for me.
Actually first time we saw this was with Nokia N90 back in the day, I think 2005. First Zeiss collab with the legendary Nokia, Nokia. Not HMD.
If I'm not mistaken, the N90 had a digital x20 zoom. The N93 was the first to introduce the x3 optical zoom in 2006. I had it, it was awesome.
@@enriquito Me too. The best part of it was playing Snake on it :D Good old memories …
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@@enriquito yep - and video record 480p max :)
3x optical zoom in 2006 - ask Apple when they introduced 3x optical zoom......... FIRST in LATEST and current iPhone 13 Pro!!!
@6:00 bridge cameras like Sony RX10 iv slightly solve this issue. You made a very good point on the physics part though.
For the features like headphone jack, expandable storage, dedicated shutter button for the camera, I love having a Sony phone. I am upgrading from my 1mkii and since I'm in the UK I get my hands on the phone on June 16th. Not sure why there is such a delay for the States though
To make it drop proof will be a monumental tasks. Unlike a canon DSLR, you will drop your phone more often than your DSLR. With those moving parts, I would imagine the faulty rates will increase exponentially during actual use due to those additional moving parts
Don't worry. Sony is from Japan !
On the the inside mechanism it's mostly precise electro magnet that's controlling the lens elements, so I think it's less of a concern as it ain't a moving motor or anything, you'd need to break the rails the lens are moving on to break the zoom.
@@alexjamesbilodeau Some phone cases accommodate lanyard, but sadly there were less common these days. At least Sony should release one official case that can have those lanyard as well, even more people won't care of it. This is their pro-grade/enthusiast device anyways, most won't buy this since it has features that most don't need.
@@captainr5725 ???? Japan has a very long history of producing unreliable electronics
@@Outwardpd It also has a long history of making the most reliable products .
Marques: Shows the pictures to compare the minimal difference in sharpness
Me watching the video in 144p: I see... interesting indeed
liar.
Trust me, I couldn't see any difference in 1080p either 😅
Cheers Marcus - getting mine delivered today, so looking forward to getting to know it. Only ever had Samsung phones, thought it was time for a change.
How's your Sony phone?
@@SonyEnthusiast it's been great thanks. Love it and the camera is excellent. 🙂🙂
@@barryedge7372 nice! Good to hear 👍
Love my Experia 5, and they use to make a really small smartphone way longer than their competitors. Sony always making good products their own way
Can't wait for 10 years from now when cameras have crazy good quality at every zoom level, like a proper lens on a camera
That's a long time to be waiting...
@@seuncoker it'll be worth the wait though, trust me.
@@BowserHype27 Exactly. I'm also looking forward to the chipsets and their power efficiency in next 10 years. Also size. Every phone nowadays goes 6.1 inch to all the way to 6.7 inches. I hope this big sized phone trend goes away and phones with 5-6 inch size become the next thing again
@@seuncoker 10 years honestly doesn't seem that long. Think about how fast last 10 years went. The next 10 years will go even faster
@@sudhanshusharma379 it might be come true, because in the next decade i'm sure foldable technology will be super good.
Really love those animated edits like the pink rings flashing down down the iPhones cameras. It really adds to good conveyance and is just so pleasing to look at.
One of the best unboxing experiece there
Great way of explaining your review on this particular item. I just wish Sony let their avaliable earlier.
It's tempting to upgrade from my Xperia 1 2019.
DO IT
bruh what?
@@thetechrealist it's a Sony phone
@@SonyEnthusiast which one though?
They have numbers lol
@@thetechrealist The 1III is a pretty good deal but me personally I would wait for the 1IV or the 1V
It’s crazy how Marques can do a 10 minute review of a phone and dedicate 7 minutes to the camera, and then make the rest incredibly comprehensive.
Haha fr, this was like 2 videos in 1
If by "incredibly" you mean "not much at all", sure.
Well, that's what stands out for this phone. so why not?
The rest incredibly comprehensive?? You mean by just listing a few things and not showing anything at all? "A bunch of new features" and then doesn't show anything. Nothing of value was shown. No mention of battery life, no showing the cameras(other than the zoom), no showing of speakers, no haptics shown, no nothing. But somehow this is incredibly comprehensive to you? Absolutely unbelievable
Hey MKBHD I'm a huge fan of how you explains the matter. I'm really exciting to see the ZTE AXON 40 ULTRA invisible front camera phone in your hands.
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Love the matte finish 🤌🏾👏🏽
Way to go sony for pushing tech forward. I really do admire that they do that
Wow, 4k120 on all lenses is pretty awesome. Would have been cool to see sample footage
Yup
Damn, who the hell has a screen that can show 4k120 footage😂
@@Vfulncchl the xperia 1 iv lol. Nah im just kidding its for slowing down in post for amazing slow motion. 120 fps can be slowed down 5x and still be smooth(24fps)
@Cifirjwbducuf I think ppl are actually interested on the smooth hi-res slowmo that comes with it.
definitely not for everyone, but as Marques said on the video, the phone was not built "for everyone" it seems. Certainly will not sell like others and Sony likely not expecting that either.
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My grandfather still has his radio from Sony work until now and he loves it so much
SONY 💙
There's a lot of potential here for Sony to make some advancements - I mean they technically already do some incredible stuff. I have an Xperia 5-iii and it's a clean phone with more or less stock android and I appreciate all the bells and whistles it does, including manual photography. I do think people avoid this brand because they want a basic point and shoot that has the AI do the work for them which, Sony has gotten a bit better with that. If Sony were to implement that in future phones though, they could potentially selling a lot more of their product, while still maintaining all of the other excellent features.
I think Xperia smartphones are just the best replacement for OnePlus right now, the os looks very close to that of Pixel too. I used to have the Xperia S back when it got released and when Sony was really in the game. Nice to see Sony slowly making a comeback.
Tend to agree. Just the price point is slightly different unfortunately
But the price difference is ridiculously ridiculous
@@fabriziospina4269 yeah I totally agree. They need to be decently priced if they really want in on the market back and to get the old fans to come back to them.
@@fabriziospina4269 they could justify it by offering longer updates but hey they do it for only two years..it's the r&d that costs them a lot actually..to fit every little detail along with some tweaks (small ones) here and there..like how they moved the sd n sim tray to the bottm to make space for the cam hardware..if their sales increase probably their r&d costs should come down which would make them about 20% cheap? because they are premium brand they would not like to lower it more than that
Idk if its actually new, more of an emphasis, or I'm simply just now paying attention, but it feels like you've taken a more "storyteller" approach to your tech videos this year, and I like it. Kudos to you, sir!
the thing i love on sony phone is it's rectangular design & it's full size display is not disturbed by front camera
So what cable and power outlet do we buy!! For fast charging? What the speaker sound like. Do we get SIM ejector tool ?? Can you compare this to Sony Xperia 5 mark IV
We need to keep in mind that this is like one of the first products to ship with this new small form factor variable zoom lens.
So the tech is still in its infancy state.
I feel this will lead to amazing future smartphone cameras.
Lets just hope manufacturers keep developing on this tech, and not drop it
Why keep the headphone jack, but ditch the charger and cable?
Whyyyyyyy not put better software in?
Why not have Sony shops with Sony care?
If they had all that, I'd actually buy it. But last Sony phone I bought, I dropped on a hard floor and it was dead. Wasn't even cracked. Just dead inside. No repair place could fix it
...all my money just gone. So im sorry but, F Sony
@@marioluigi9599 Maybe buy a warranty from whoever you bought it from?? Your problems are very easily solved.
@@Miguel-jm2pf well it did come with warranty. I think it was like one year only. And the warranty had just gone when I dropped it. So there was nothing I could do. I couldn't access the storage. All my photos, everything just gone in one go.
Since then I had a cheap Samsung phone that I dropped so many times, with not even a case and it's absolutely fine. Not even the glass ever got a single crack in it. And it never just died from being dropped. So yeah I really don't recommend Sony phones. They're bad quality.
@@Miguel-jm2pf It's kinda sad in a way, because Sony phones look a lot more interesting than boring old Samsung ones, but in the end it's just not worth it. I don't know how they can just die from one drop, probably something in the silicon somewhere just cracked. But it wasn't clearly visible when they opened it up, so noone could fix it.
Anyway, it never happened with any Samsung phone. Honestly, I WOULD buy Sony over Samsung, if they weren't such bad quality. The Sony phone I bought was expensive. It was a flagship. I bought it because it was the first phone ever with a 4k screen. So it wasn't just any old cheap Sony crap. It should have had durable quality.
I love the fact that you can remove the sim card tray without needing a paperclip. That is so amazing when you're travelling a lot. Why can't every phone maker steal that function?
And it's still IP68. That's an achievement honestly
@@AsadMulla is the iPhone 13 not waterproof?
@@anouaressanoussi No idea. My point is that NORMALLY, to make something watertight, you need to use a tool to open or close it. Sony has done it without the use of a tool and its IP68
I wonder if the optical zoom will get less light, similarly to how telescopic lenses generally have smaller apertures than prime lenses in the same price range
Hey Marques , Nikon Coolpix p510 is the the camera that zoom in from 4 -180 mm.
Really love Sony with the camera bump design doesnt look too overwhelming to the back of the phone. and the idea of a variable optical zoom range should be implemented on all future flagship , it's really useful and for someone who can't carry their camera all the time this is just as good ! .
there's a limit to how much you can zoom by before the quality degrades.
there's a reason why professional photographers still shoot with primes/ short zooms rather than one-size-fit-all superzooms.
Watching this video on my Xperia Pro I and it looks amazing!! 😍
Giving attention to the matte black and the camera , looks really hope!
I've been going through Pixel Rot with my 4a pretty badly, and the 1 Mk IV was announced at the perfect time for me to start saving up for one.
Can't wait to order it, though it's really a shame that a phone with 3 years of software support is on the chopping block after 2 because of how bad the performance issues are on it.
What is pixel rot?
@@shanindarathnayake7982 Check out Marques's recent Pixel 6 video. Some Pixels become slow and buggy over time. I also have the same issue with my 4a
Really impressive stuff by Sony. Great job 👏🏻
Indeed
Thanks 🙏
Amazed to see they still exist. Pleasantly surprised.