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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2024
- A pregnant photographer suffers a stroke in the middle of a shoot and even though her health continues to fail, she's more concerned with her baby's well-being than saving herself.
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From Season 3 Episode 17 ''Fetal Position'': A famous, pregnant photographer, Emma Sloan, is brought to the hospital after suffering a stroke in the middle of a photo shoot. Although Emma's condition initially stabilizes, her health takes a turn for the worse when her kidneys fail and Emma, who had miscarriages in the past and feels this is her last opportunity to have a child is more concerned about her baby's well-being than her own. Meanwhile, the secret relationship between Cameron and Chase is exposed to Foreman and Cuddy, and House makes extravagant plans to take a much-needed vacation.
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You'd think if she's suddenly delirious, can't read the words, losing function of her muscles and is slurring, you would sit her down and call the ambulance, not wait for her to shout it and then literally collapse and possibly hit her head. It's a sad reality that people are like that sometimes.
My brother worked in a bakery that would get inundated on Sundays after mass let out. One day, a person in line collapsed. (We theorize a heart attack.) The person was Stepped Over & he had to come from behind the counter to help them.
Moral: Never underestimate the power of yummy, fatty baked goods...or something.
Bro you're afraid to ask a girl out because of social anxiety but you think you'd have the guts and quick thinking to save someone in an emergency situation with a bunch of people around
@@BlackBirds93 as someone with anxiety those situations are not the same, it's much easier to help someone in a health crisis
This is actually something I learned about in my previous semester of college. It's called the Bystander Effect. The more people there are in an area, the less likely they are to try to help because they assume someone else will step in. If everyone in the room experiences this effect, it can take a while for someone to step in and do something.
This is why when there IS an emergency and you step in to help, while you're assisting the ill person, instead of saying "someone call 911", you point at someone and say "YOU, call 911". This basically snaps them out of that bystander effect in most cases.
That beginning scene when everyone stands around doing nothing is a lot more accurate than someone could comfortably imagine.
Funny thing is, the band was actually a band: The All American Rejects. They agreed to be portrayed as moroons.
The FAST is actually something that I was taught when I was training as a life guard. Its basically a check list. Face. Arms. Speech. Time.
"An intricate German metro system, all the trains run on time"
Oh Greg, if only you knew..
He knows...the key word "jews"
@@thatguyzergThe point of the comment was that trains in germany are not that punctual and at the moment there are strikes almost every other week
I mean to be fair the metro systems in most cities actually do work pretty well and run on time. It´s just the train connections between cities that are well......... a little bit off in timing. But those aren´t part of a metro sytstem, that´s regional and long distance trains.
🤣🤣🤣You`ve never been to Berlin!@@blackangel6589
@@blackangel6589 oh yeah, guess it is a "metro" huh...
I love how the first scene makes all the bystanders look like complete brainlets.
But that would be a diagnosis of the presence of brains.
And I didn't see that 😂
She's having what seems to be a stroke, her face is drooping her words are slurring, she's panicking, and she can't read, and she's made all of these assessments on her own whilst having said stroke, what are we supposed to do now?
Everyone else in that room: I unno stand around with smiles on our face's?
What sucks is that this would probably happen irl because most people can’t be trusted to get involved in something when it’s happening but the second the thing is over they all rush over and probably start arguing about what to do or how they can benefit from posting online about it
Ya, at least offer her a chair or sit her down gently. She obviously looked like she needed to sit down. They had time to stare and ask if she was ok but no one used their brain for a second…The way she fell on the floor on the back of her head …geez
Ennit, I came to comments just for that. Worst writing for bystanders EVER!!!!
"If there's anyone to save my baby, it would be doctor House." House Didn't look happy about that regardless.
Yeah but. "Don't thank me I would've killed the kid."
Moral expectation being placed upon him when he knows perfectly well that may not be possible, alongside the expectation from Cuddy herself
It's the baby😅
He clearly showed a hint of deep appreciation for what it meant between the two of them then quickly brought his focus back to the task at hand that being the patient.
Yeah, but House doesn't understand, or know, or is being untruthful, the fetus means baby in Latin.
"fetus (foetus)
The *embryo of a mammal, especially a human, when development has reached a stage at which the main features of the adult form are recognizable."
Or baby.
You didn't put the best part. Where the fetus grabs House's hand.
Hahaha!
That's in part 2.
I think it was uploaded a year or two ago 😂
Yeah. THAT was a great scene. I think it really got to House.
Poor people would have just d!ed.
@@Tintintanabulation
Not on this show 😂
House telling the mom to not thank him because he was trying to kill the kid is kinda wholesome
He was not trying to kill the kid nor did he say that.
@@corpsie666 He literally said I'd have killed the kid.
@@corpsie6663:00 House says that they have to abort the pregnancy. 4:09 Either the baby dies, or they both die. 4:20 He say that he's scheduling a D&C. So did you watch the middle of the video, because he really was going to kill the baby, or fetus as he called it, to save her life.
@@catherinep2034At the point he said that, the fetus was still two weeks from even _potential_ viability. There wouldnt have been any "killing" involved. Unless you count the patient dying, which would've happened if this had been real life rather than a TV show.
They cut out the part where House threw his paper airplane at Cuddy 😂😂
Kinda cute that House wrote mirror syndrome like "rrorim syndrome" on the board lol
yllatot
@@captainpoppletonfor some reason translating your backwards totally message makes it say "dinner parties"
яoяяiM *
Try again.
Rr is in the middle
"you call being born twice 'normal'?" kid has two birthdays then, he'll get twice the pokemon cards or whatever
Epic all american rejects cameo, what a throwback
Who?
right i’m like wait-😂😂
Had to read the comments just to see if anyone else would remember All-American Rejects! I've always loved AAR, who gave us "Move Along", "Gives You Hell", "It Ends Tonight"... my kids were young teens, and I thoroughly enjoyed the music they were listening to.
@@crisdlcruz145one of the only good things to come out of my state.
@@crisdlcruz145an actually half decent band I enjoyed back in the day.
0:27 - slurry speech and drooping face - that's stroke 101; call 911 immediately!
that's why she started going over the FAST acronym, though it would be nice if they could come up with one that included words looking jumbled.
@@dietotaku FDAST for dyslexia
Same that’s why I was like why is nobody reacting! Her face is drooping her arm wasn’t holding steady she was slurring speech
Face Arm Speech Time! -Act FAST!
Can you believe how dumb that guitar player was he’s like oh I don’t know what the Hecks going on. Please don’t let me be around someone that dumb if something happens to me.
this just tells me I wouldn't wanna suffer a stroke while The All American Rejects are around. They'll just stand there and gawp.
*shows clear sign of having a stroke* Useless specimen: "hey are you ok?" 😂
This is the brutally honest House that was lost in personal drama and the like in later seasons.
That trick she used to determine a stroke was pretty handy someone should reccord that part as a health tip cuz i had a stroke in my teen and my bro did a similar thing just in time the ambulance came amd i was fine😊
They DID record it as a health tip. That’s where she learned it. They teach it in schools, swim classes, etc.
I like the touch of House writing “Mirror” backwards 1:00
In context of prior to the surgery, why did they make House go the easy route on this diagnosis without much exploration? The tube insertion procedure would have confirmed things. House also knows very well that issues and symptoms can masque the real problem, which is why he's pulled into cases other doctors didn't solve.
He answered this in the show. The fetus is not his patient, the woman is. He had no intention of saving the fetus if it meant risking his patient's life.
These days trains never run on time here in Germany😥
They didn't run in time back then, either. It was propaganda.
nor anywhere else, so there's that..
@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 Japan is great
The trains are still better then most other countries😂
Is she the one who dies after delivering the baby or is there another case with a similar looking mom whose fetus had some cancer and the mom had another but the mom antibodies treated the baby so she didn't take chemo and died after fully saving her child
no I remember she survived and the sprog was born
The one you're thinking of is S7 Ep5 "Unplanned Parenthood"
i think you mean the one with the actor who plays judith on two and a half men
@@MeddlTitan SHE WAS JUDITH FROM TWO AND A HALF MEN?????
@@adityasinha6583 not the girl in this episode but in the one you are talking about was
1:20 bro is wild for this one
The first scene everyone just stands there googly eyed while she's asking for help. They wait to decide to help until she's falls backwards on the hard ground. Mhmmm shame somebody could've caught her. She's pregnant that fall is not good for the baby. Slow responses of them folks
When you learn CPR or first aid, they teach you to point at someone and direct them to call 911 because it's human nature for people to stand around and assume someone else will do it.
Omfg The All American Rejects! I love them! I went to one of their concerts when I was in 9th grade maybe 10th at the most so over 10 years ago in Minnesota lol. Nostalgia. That was a great night. My mom won my tickets from the radio. She was lucky. She won stuff all the time. She actually won me tickets to Justin Timberlake's concert too, his sexyback tour, years before I went The All American Rejects concert. I miss my mom so much. She was the best. She just unexpectedly died.
I love you house md 😭❤️
Yay mom and Cuddy!
Which episode is this? I know I have seen all of this show but it has been a few years and sometimes I see one like this that I do not remember it drives me crazy lol 😅🙃
I think this was one of House's favorite patients.
basically the whole episode in one video... nice!
😊first to like your comment hh
But worth it
The Toa Ignika would’ve been more helpful but AAR kept them on the tour bus 😕
When House shows her the baby monitor thing I thought there was a spider crawling on top of the baby
As a german, basically no trains here are on time...😂
this show is a time capsule omg all american rejects?????
This is creepy, i just finished this episode thinking "oh i dont remember seeing this one on the house md channel". Real creepy, GET OUT OF MY HEAD HOUSE!
I'm not talking about earlier in the day or something, the end credits rolled, i was contemplating going to sleep and continuing with season 3 episode 18, airborne, tomorrow. I checked youtube just for the hell of it and i see this.
She should name it Greg
It is inexcusable that those people couldn't even understand that she needed an ambulance.they just stood there terrified like they couldn't understand what to do.what idiots.I fear for society with examples like this.
It's tv and fiction. Makes for more of the story if they create morons to build the moment.
Normal? That kid had major health problems before even close to be born. That little time bomb is probably going to suffer many health problems in its life.
It doesn't mean they cannot have a quality life. It would be different, but there is advanced medical care is able to support people with significant disabilities and there is amazing assistive equipment available to assist them with their independence. Where I live the government pours money into the children and then as adults, they can be allocated funding so they can hire their own staff and remain independent and live a good life. Due to my profession I know hundreds of people with significant disabilities: people who are in power wheelchairs and cannot use their arms, hands or legs. Do they live a life of misery? No...I know people with "major health problems" who married, had children, became lawyers, executive directors of companies, become paralympians, graphic designers, artists, writers. They do amazing work and it's sad how many babies could have also achieved greatness had they been allowed to live.
@@hilaryc3203 I am not saying that the kid is going to be dead weight for the whole of its life. With great support it can be successful. I am saying that it is not going to be a normal life.
@@LednacekZthere is no such thing as "normal". Ask any doctor and they will confirm this. It is all made up nonsense.
"Im not gonna let you kill my baby"
The baby is never going to come, the fetus is doomed and is about to kill her, but she wants to go down with the ship...
Its a shame the show had to go down the route of misdiagnosis and coincidence and making the nonviable fetus viable so there is an alternative, when other times there isn't.
A person's a person no matter how small. As a mother who has lost two children in utero I can tell you that I felt like I would've rather died myself than let my babies die. I just wasn't given a choice.
@@naowright9308 except that wasn't the choice, the choice was " you and the baby or the baby" not "you or the baby". As morbid as it sounds, you can always try again. Things don't pan out how you want or how they should. You salvage what you can from what's left of a tragedy not dive head-first into its worst possibility because you couldn't deal with a better one.
@kimberlyrichardson5943 im sorry for what you've been through, but you prove my point. You were here to try again, and you tried again, and while you were tragically unsuccessful, it didn't need to cost you your life regardless of how much im sure you wish it did at the times. Im sure the pain of your loss troubles you even now, but im also sure you're glad you're still here.
@kimberlyrichardson5943 Again, I'm sorry for the undeniable tragic history, but you did and do have the choice to "die with them" as you put.
Again, im sorry for morbidity, but self termination is a thing, and you didn't do that, haven't done that, and im sure you aren't about to do that. Your here today shows that you had a choice and that your childs life didn't cost your own.
Im very sorry if im coming off as unsympathetic. it's not my intent if i am.
Woman: *has a stroke*
Man: "Let's get this woman some water."
Everyone else: *does absolutely nothing*
I hope that if I ever have a stroke, that there's at least one competent person in my presence...
best serie of them all
Tyson Ritter💟🤗🩵!!!! What a hottie
I cant believe All American Rejects are on this show!😮
You can tell House has never been to Germany because he called the metro system punctual
so the baby had a stroke inside the mother, oh man
Oh I remember All American Rejects....think ima liaten to em now....
when he said "if you call being born twice normal" all i could think of was Glen Quagmire being in court like "I was Born 9 times that day"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂German trains on time😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Tell me another 😂😂😂😂😂
Uhm I think House never rode a train in Germany with the Deutsche Bahn. 1:02
no boomer did, that's why the infrastructure is in such bad shape everywhere, not just Germany.
Die deutsche Bahn ist immernoch besser, als die meisten Bahnsysteme, hör auf zu heulen😂
I find it interesting how even though House’s position is to abort the pregnancy, he still has the courtesy to show her the ultrasound.
Legalize abortion
like other western non backward countries do. you guys in America have gone back in time for this, it's very sad could be mistaken for the taliban for how I see it.
IT'S A FETUS,.. baby 😂
House' Germans metro vs vs Hugh Laurie's experience with German fans when he's leaving Germany on train 😂😂😂😂
Fetus….. 😂
Was that Emily Axford?
Probably my favorite episode of House ever.
Bru the NHS would not try this hard lol, dont have the staff or funding. A doctor once said to me, if it looks like a horse and sounds like a horse its usually a horse lol
American hospitals won't do it either. And insurance sure as hell wouldn't cover all of it.
That misses the whole point of _House,_ which is that he treats the zebras, not the horses. They specifically Lampshade it in season one, and one of the working titles for the series was _Chasing Zebras._
That is what every doctor is taught in medical school worldwide.
House is based. I agree it’s HER choice but I’m glad House is pro abortion and cares about the womans wellbeing.
biased, and yes, I agree.
we have no shortage of humans, we need to focus on raising the ones we have to be better than the current sewage baseline the trumpers inhabit.
Pro life woman here who is currently 10 weeks along. And I’m against all abortions except for moments like this. It literally breaks my heart to see such precious life not last long enough to survive but it happens. Poor mother and poor baby. Just a horrible situation all around if the baby was removed. When the mother’s life is at risk if the pregnancy goes any further I think majority of people are more willing to remove the baby and let them pass away naturally. No need to rip it apart violently but remove and let the mother see her child at least once. It’s so heartbreaking but it has to happen sometimes.
He’s not necessarily pro abortion he’s being truthful that something was wrong and the fetus was literally killing the mother. Caring about her wellbeing should always be with in the doctors best interest but doctors aren’t always right.
Majority of doctors that find an inclination of something wrong with the baby suggest termination and more often than not that diagnosis is wrong. Let’s be generous and say it’s 75% correct in every diagnoses that would mean 25% of children with no viable issues are then terminated because of a misdiagnosis. Which is really sad when those babies were wanted, fine and no one fought for them to live.
Woman’s health is extremely polarizing for some reason. Including medical care for just woman’s pain. We aren’t taken seriously.
So I’m glad he listened to her and were willing to help her regardless of her choice because most hospitals would see her as a liability. And doctors would see her as a failure on their record if anything went wrong.
In todays modern day and age it’s seen as stupid or brave to do the right thing and fight for your children’s lives. Which is so backwards and wrong.
@@mushiosif you’re so ‘pro life’ why not help children who are already born and do some good in this world by adoption or fostering?
But no, it’s much more important that you breed for your own wants.
There is NEVER any reason why a woman shouldn’t abort.
Your words are worthless because they come from a narcissistic viewpoint.
@mushios
It's fine if YOU don't want an abortion, but you shouldn't SUPPORT the fact that women are being denied the right to CHOOSE.
@@AmieMorley-st6tz Lol, I do only because there has to be very extreme circumstances to abort, whether the child is causing serious problems for the mother or the mother was r*ped and got pregnant because of it, any other reason is just not valid enough to waste taxpayers (or anyones) money. Wear a condom, birth control or just straight up don't have s*x.
Cuddy was so annoying in this episode. She lets her emotions cloud her judgement over and over again. House was right, she isn't fit to be a doctor, just an administrator.
Wow.
You must have missed the part where both the baby and the mom were saved because of her.
She called the baby for what it is. A baby.
She did what the mom wanted lmao. Thats why she was on the case and she worked on the case for the one time she was supposed to actually. So stfu😂😂
@@nona104 fun fact: "baby" is not a medical term. it's an emotionally-laden term of endearment. it's a blastocyst, then a zygote, then an embryo, then a fetus, and once it's born it's a neonate or an infant. the warmfuzzy feelings you get when you look at itty bitty fingers doesn't change what it ACTUALLY is.
When my maternal grandmother was pregnant of my mother, her doctor advised to abort. My grandmother had already 4 children and after that 2 miscarriages where she almost bled to death in both. Doctor said it was too risky trying to carry my mother to full term, but my grandmother (a devout catholic) didn’t want to know anything about having an abortion.
So my oldest aunt, by then 12 years old, took good care of her mother for the rest of the pregnancy and my mother was born.
My mother turned out to be an extremely gifted child who graduated in biology as the valedictorian of the entire university and is a quite well known university professor.
Not only that, but my mother is the only one of the 5 children who has descendants, the other 4 bloodlines ended without descendants. So only my mother is continuing the bloodlines of my grandparents.
My grandmother’s decision to carry on to full term ended up being of historical importance on a large scale.
How many others who followed your grandmothers" ended up dead,?
I like the arrogance of calling the continuation of your bloodline "of historical importance on a large scale".
I know it's the women's choice, but what's the point if you die too? The baby dies with you.
the decision to make her face do that with cgi was not the right one
This woman was beyond stupid
What a stubborn woman.
Reproductive rights goes both ways, folks!
1. If you break the vase you wouldn't keep playing as you'd do more damage to other stuff 2. The woke tv show thought being pro gay was the start and end of things, irony they opened Pandora's box of more perversion beliefs, no tv show these days would say a fetus is a life and also "my body my chocie"
"That ain't good for the Jews" 🤣😂🤣😭💀 god, House is such a badass.
House has got no problem with aborting a fetus, killing a baby however is too much.
It’s a baby. Period. You can call it a fetus sure, but it’s a baby from conception.
House should know fetus is just baby in Latin. It was equivalent of her saying baby and him saying it baby in Latin
Fetus. 😂
it's 'foetus', you'll find.
@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 Lupus.
@@tiananesbitt7156it's never lupus
That intro is so ~~ridiculous~~ (lets replace this with just 'funny') though, patient knows she's having a stroke, is literally counting the symptoms, but is too fixated on her symptoms to bother telling the people around her she's having a stroke. Someone has focus issues
edit: I'm not saying it's ridiculous because it's 'unrealistic' or 'dumb' and I'm not critiquing this in any way. It is just extremely comedic how hyper aware she is of her situation, talks a bit about it, and then falls over the moment she actually starts to get out the word stroke. For a moment I was worried all the people around her were gonna continue to be oblivious and just let her lie there cause they're like "oh she just needs some milk." Sorry to those who thought I was commenting something negative on a deeper subject.
Unless you've actually HAD a stroke yourself, you can't predict how someone's going to react to having a stroke - it might not be as logical as you'd think. Case in point: Dr Jill Bolte Taylor. She was a neurologist who had a stroke, and now has a new career creating stained-glass artwork of brains, after the damage from the stroke ended her neurology career but somehow awakened previously unknown creative instincts. In an interview, she said she also recognised the symptoms of a stroke as she began to have them (not unsurprising, given that she was a neurologist) but said her first reaction to that was to think "I'm having a stroke - this is so cool!"
I don't think I would be thinking logically if I had a stroke.
@@MaerahnYea, this is my point kinda, it's just a lil silly that she's so caught up in the moment and it seems a lil adhd coded to me. "Oh this is new and interesting." *forgets the next step is falling over* It's just a bit comedic to me is all, no criticism here.
you’d probably have focus issues too if the part of your body that does the thinking is actively shutting down
@YourRandomBAD - She's not fixated on her symptoms, she's only able to say the words and things she remembers, which the stroke was increasingly limiting.
All American rejects yay!
Who's the jews. Haha LoL
f e t u s
B A B Y
Wow 😮. Some deep issues at play in this clip. I have to give credit to the writers and actors for understanding the complexity of the situation.
Why don't women have 2 livers.. but do have.. two kidneys, hmmm ..
let's install a second liver.. and C.. sect
Thank you, Republicans, for ensuring politicians get to make decisions in these cases.
House summed up the abortionist position perfectly: despite that life does in fact begin at conception, a person is not worth anything unless he or she is born without any problems.
What?
This was a great abortion episode
The Jews comment was insane😭
House insisting on calling the baby "fetus" reminds me of the doctor when my daughter was going to be born very
premature. "Don't look at it. Don't name it. It's a fetus, not a human being." I fired him. The next doctor said "I'll be honest. Your daughter has maybe a 10% chance of survival." My daughter was
born just shy of 25 weeks gestation. She's 35 years old.
❤🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
Sound's like the first doc was just trying to save you from further psychological trauma... getting so worked up over something that has a such a low survival chance is unhealthy.
Well, that doctor was right. It's not a baby. It's a fetus. The word "baby" is not applicable to any stage of pregnancy or even birth, for that matter. "Baby" is just the word we use to describe fetuses and infants emotionally. Logically, it's a blastocyst, then a zygote, then an embryo, then a fetus, then an infant. I think the doctor was trying to get you to remove emotion from the situation because it was unlikely the fetus would survive. I'm glad things turned out okay, but he was trying to prevent you from getting attached to the unborn fetus in case something happened. He may not have done it in a gentle way and he might’ve been blunt, but he was right.
Wow, this is one of a few episodes that ticks me off. He is so smart but he doesn't call it a baby. Then he asks her for an abortion. That poor lady. That would tick me off 😡
The writing in this episode is sloppy. Cuddy is way out-of-character here.
Actually she isn’t. She is a great doctor who fights for what her patient wants.
Sure her motives might have been different is she hadn’t lost a baby,but irl medicine,you fight for what your patient wants,even if you don’t agree with it.
Even in a show, they try to reduce the baby to a tumor. Evil and sad. The mother had it right.
Yeah, but House doesn't understand, or know, or is being untruthful, the fetus means baby in Latin.
"fetus (foetus)
The *embryo of a mammal, especially a human, when development has reached a stage at which the main features of the adult form are recognizable."
Or baby.
Even your own "proof" doesn't say that it means baby. You just made a massive leap in logic and put your own interpretation into it.
@@SilverEye91 Projection? Not a good debate tactic.
Logically, humans have human babies.
So by your logic, or lack thereof, sometime after conception but before birth this little human growing inside a woman's belly magically transforms from something other than a human baby, to a human baby?
You should be embarrassed at your bare faced attachment to fallacies and myths, all to cling to a religious belief.
Since you are incapable of logical rational thought, I found you a better definition.
Unless you think "offspring" aren't babies.
"Fetus Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
The meaning of FETUS is an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth. ... Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful - more at feminine ..."
It doesn't matter what it means in Latin; House knows what it means in medicine, and that's all that counts.
@@vaska1999 "House" is a fictional character played by an actor to repeat lines written by someone lese.
That's pretty funny from someone claiming logic. The meaning of the word and its origin doesn't matter.
You're broken.
it's an embryo, then a foetus and it's not a baby untill it can survive on it's own.. so..
don't fall for the church dogma.
they need you to breed because numbers means power.
House , you’re wrong. It’s a baby.
Nah it's a fetus
@@wavingbuddy3535being edgy like house doesn’t make you cool. It’s like trying to be like Walter white
Not yet, it isn't; if it can't exist outside the womb, it's a fetus.
@@calypsosgarden203 a fetus is still a baby
@@imnotnarcianNo because a baby can exist outside of the womb, a fetus can’t
Bad tv series F F F F
When you carry that thing inside your body, think how it would grow and talk and have friends and turn into a intelligent better than you person, you would know why mother wouldn't kill a fetus. They say baby get mother's memories seven years before it is conceived, so yes, it's worth it a try to be saved.
What in the actual insane ravings am I reading? They also say that using a computer means you serve the devil and turn away from god, or that planes spread chemtrails....good lord some people.
I’m sorry WHO says that I’ve never heard that! What??
people in your area should never have swapped the school for a meth lab..