Ha, fun to think about. You could actually figure it out by trying the different gear pairs, and seeing which individual clutch didn't work based on the three forward speeds that rely on it.
@@dank7491 he didnt he understood the joke as he said "Ha funny to think about" than explained how the problem can be solved also you wrote too many O's Baka
Or we can just kidnap/clone him and force the clones to teach at universities. It's for the better of humanity, victories eventually come at a small price.
I know this was more of a rhetorical question, but the gist of it is that your university professor doesn't really have to go above and beyond. He only needs to do his job, and if he isn't passionate, that's that. Jason on the other hand needs to be good at what he does, since his success in teaching is directly proportionate to how well his channel is doing, and thus his income.
The thing is your professors (need to) explain things more indepht, include more math etc. Obviously it's harder to understand if it's more complex. These videos explain the basic principle in good detail, but that's it.
Todestuete yup exactly I agree. A lot of people miss/forget that. He explains the basic concept. But it will always be harder when we have to go into the math and go more in depth.
As far as I remember it was just the opposite. Engineer: 7 clutches Christian: you mean 7 gears. Engineer: no, I had my meds, 7 clutches and it works. Christian: you are right, it works /someone please check his meds box before I give it a green light/ Engineer: What are you looking at on my desk? Yes my pc is unplugged but the ZPM works just fine... Check out this gearbox, this one is cool! :-)
That's quite the elaborate pun to get to the magazine! Koenigsegg: Design a supercar that requires no transmission, only a torque converter to shame other hypercar manufacturers Also Koenigsegg: Doubles down on the engineering and reinvents the transmission to again shame the competition.
NoFanSLand. It’s amazing the amount of groundbreaking stuff they come up with at Koenigsegg. The major car companies probably have multi billion dollar development budgets and can’t even compete with a niche car maker for ingenuity!
@@David-lr2vi can't compete with Koenigsegg? To be fair, all these "innovations" Koenigsegg came up with (Free Valve, Lightspeed transmission, top mounted spoiler, etc) are pretty meaningless if the car is not performing. For example every McLaren Senna with half the power or even a 488 pista is faster around tracks than these Koenigseggs. Koenigsegg cars are brutal but way less refined, they often lack traction or stability, which makes them hard and not fun to drive unlike cars such as the Gt2rs, the pista or the Senna, which all are way less powerful but better performing.
Nik7 BKH. Well McLaren is another niche car maker. I understand that the whole package makes the car. My whole point is that it seems that it’s the small volume car makers that seem to be doing all the R&D these days and not the mainstream companies like Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM, etc. Maybe the big car companies are all spending their R&D money on electric cars?
“Well sir, we’re having a special today. For every three clutches you replace, we’ll throw in the fourth for free. That’s 8 clutches for the price of 6!”
@@theenzoferrari458 well you see if you're in 9th gear and you want to go to 2nd gear, 9+2 is 13, which is 2 digits and a car can't handle that much digits. in the game, the number overflows and loops back around to 1st gear, so its fine.
9:28 "So you're on the highway cruising, you want as much power as possible" Yeah, to undertake that truck hogging the left lane @ 55 mph, being in a 1600 hp Koenigsegg I would need just that
Coffee Pjesht nah, it’s so that when you see someone come flying up on you in a car they think is fast and you want to show them what fast really means. Or, when you want to pass that person who is causing your lane to go significantly slower than the passing lane so you can catch that opening.
Granted Koenigsegg are always playing around with technology that might be implemented in normal cars. They've been working on their freevalve technology for a few years now which (like the transmission) make the engine smaller and more efficient. This transmission could easily be implemented in other cars.
When the light switches from green to yellow! It's a shame they focused too much on how to make a 7 clutch car instead of adding another 400hp, make it an even 2000hp with maybe just 5 clutch?. For this reason I'll stick with my Prius.
@@ValentineC137 NEVS and Koenigsegg created a joint venture on 29th January: "partnering up to develop a product for new and untapped segments, leveraging both of the companies’ strengths." This might mean a fully electric Koenigsegg. :D
I'm in, too. But be warned. If everybody of your 2.2M subscribers gets 5 Minutes of driving time, the car needs to operate non-stop for 21 years. Better get a dedicated pit crew, a dependable fuel supplier and a ton of tyres.Edit: But you might get a couple of world records: Highest number of people crowdfunding one car. Highest number of people driving one car. Reaching 1 Million kilometers/miles in the shortest possible time with a single car. And many more :-)
Beastly Buick V6 It’s actually ignorant to not buy it. The people who have the chance to buy it can resell it and make crazy amounts of profit. This type of car resells for 2 to 3 the original purchase price.
Im studying mechanical engineering at DTU in Denmark, one of our teachers helped koenigsegg building this transmission. He told us that the biggest challange with this transmission was that the gears had to be very thin because of all the clutches. Most computer programs said the transmission was completly impossible to design. The tolerances in this transmission is extremely tight, and also the expected lifetime is not that high :D
He propably lied cuz Koenigsegg haven't said anything about it being bad in durability. The latest video about the gearbox litterly says it has very low wear of the gears and clutches.
Either way it’s a revolutionary feat in engineering and it’s too bad this was developed in the tail end of ICE era of automotive technology (although I don’t fully believe ICE is as close to being phased out as everyone wants us to believe, it is inevitable) I truly hope koenigsegg will license this to other manufacturers so us as simpletons will get to experience this. This has long been dream by car manufacturers and enthusiasts alike. Bravo, damn swedens put a perpetual watch in a transmission
It's a mystery that a very low production car company can actually innovate in such an expensive R&D high tech area like this. Most "bespoke" manufacturers have no choice but to just use other people's parts. Even Rolls-Royce used GM transmissions. Amazing.
The difference being is that cars like Rolls-Royce are going to driven unlike the Koenigsegg which are garage queen due to how long it takes to get any repaired when the cars break down which happens frequently. Most of the technology koenigsegg uses has already been experimented by other automakers. There’s a reason they didn’t use said technology mostly because the difficulty of mass production, too little improvement over existing designs, or being unreliable.
@@vablo7198 Actually, with fewer engineers, you can concentrate on the important design features. With a 100 engineers, you get too many opinions and a mediocre all-round design (does not excel at any one thing).
@@R4M_Tommy you're right about not having the Free valve in a production car. But we had protype engines running on the same concept in the 90s at Navistar. Unfortunately controllers weren't fast enough at the time to do it reliably for hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@abes3925that is all BS lies from u. Koenigsegg's has never broke down without an driver error being the reason like reving the car as soon as u start it. Koenigsegg uses billet aluminium blocks litterly more durable than the W16 from Bugatti.
Watch Geek it does feel surprising at first but if it’s anything like the IT industry it’s the very reason(being small) they have such fast innovation cycles. Of course the prerequisite for that to work is that they really know what they are doing. And they do.
Remember some years ago there were a lot of people saying that Koenigsegg made cars with highly tuned and modified engines and not much more than that... Well it's been time I don't hear (read) those type of comments anymore. Koenigsegg proves itself more and more everytime.
You only need to close two on the same shaft... And I bet this thing is gonna blow up often... all it takes is one clutch to fail and locka and it's over... (although, clutches usually slip with they fail, so maybe it's not such a problem).
@@mikkihintikka7273 in dual clutch transmissions they are pressure _closed_ (unlike on a manual, where the clutch is pressure _opened_ ), it's a safety feature. I guess it's the same with the königsegg. For park you only need one actuator and a notch in the output shaft.
@@mikkihintikka7273 yes, like on a motorcycle or manual trans car traditionally; but with so many clutches in this design(7 counting reverse) where most of them have to be open(5 open and only 2 closed for forward gears, and 6 open for reverse) it would seem better if normally they were all open in a 'resting' state ... a car or motorcycle uses springs to hold the clutch closed at rest, but here you could just use a solenoid to close it at will? - I wish he would have said how they operated the clutches in the video
How does Koenigsegg handle the 3/4 and 6/7 shifts, especially with clutch overlap for continuous power delivery? Those two involve swapping not one but two pairs of clutches - shifting one sub-transmission a step up and shifting the other down. All modern multi-clutch automatics involve only a single clutch-to-clutch swap for every sequential and double shift to avoid engine flare or bogging down the engine.
@@tcroft2165 Now use the C7 ZR1 for example. Has Out lapped the 720s on track like V.I.R While also running low 10second 1/4 Mile times and also weighs 3600 ibs
Plum_Crazy 1992 What exactly is over engineered on the LST? It’s small, simple, weights 90kg (200lbs), doesn’t even need a flywheel and can handle 1600HP.
Exactly what I was thinking.... I respect Christian von Koenigsegg for his willingness to think outside the box. He brings something new with every new model
As an automotive engineering student this is just baffling. Koenigsegg revolutionizes so many things in automotive technology which has been somewhat the same for a hundred years..
as an automotive engineering student.. you should know this is simply a traditional automatic gearbox with cog gears instead of planetary. im actually worried about the future of automotive engineering if you think this is baffling or revolutionary. pop quiz: explain how this gearbox operates fundamentally differently than the automatic in a '69 chev? you cant. its just a few extra gears, and the gears are shaped differently
Yea, it would be nice to know what's actually happening to these technologies. With Koenigsegg's advancements, like the removal of camshaft and this smaller transmission, we could be expecting as much as 1/4 ton of weight reduction. It would be a real shame not to see that permeate the whole market.
Paul Bautista yeah I hope to hear more updates from them soon. They claim to have put their actuators through hundreds of millions of cycles of testing with no measurable wear. Pretty impressive.
Wow, this was pretty informative. I was wondering if you could do a video on specifics on the clutch packs on the Jesko (clutch packs on modern transmissions period, actually)? I know it uses solenoids and all, I think it would be a cool video if you were to dig deeper in the differences and benefits/drawbacks to this component.
@@gertahnstrom784 First they build a car without a gearbox and just a huge torque converter, and now they build a car with a (kind of/possibly) automatic transmission without a torque converter. Can they please make up their minds? 😋
Yeah, so much talk about what just about any AT has. Are the only differences here that it's not planetary and has more clutch packs? Both being not that unique actually.
So It is named this way because the transmission is light and it transmits speed? Or the time it takes to shift is measured in light speed (in vacuum?) over some undisclosed distance? Wet clutches are still not instant, it takes time to fill the clutchpack with oil.
This kind of reminded me of bicycle gears. You have something like three chainrings on the front sprocket, and something like six cogs on the rear. A combination between which chainring and cog you are using decides the speed of your bike.
It's like gears in a mountain bike 🚲 But true: some of these clutches (if not all) have to deal with enormous torqe. All of them must be actuated in some way (oil pressure?)
How do they even manage to develop these amazing technologies while they sell so few cars. Granted, the cars are expensive, but R&D is also incredibly expensive.
Christian doesn't just manufacture and sell cars. Apparently they also own several sister companies that hold several patents and do other stuff related to automotive technologies. For example, the FreeValve. And if I am not mistaken, the recent Top Gear videos also mentioned about them owning their own carbon fibre factory in Spain. Pretty sure they also invested in several other companies.
If you look closer, Christians solutions are at most time simple and straight forward to implement, like this gearbox is just a manual gearbox with clutches for every gear while other manufacturers spend billions on cutting corners and developing tech that guarantee a fixed point of failure
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. The transmission control module in my 92 Accord just crapped out, so just yesterday, I was reading the factory service manual and read all about the transmission. Yep, it definitely works the same way.
@@dubeights even the camless will have a limit. its still moving mechanical parts that can only take so much force before parts begin to stretch or fail.
"The clutches can open/close in 2 milliseconds." But WILL they in actual use? I imagine SOME time allowance must be made for the engine rotating assembly (and primary input shaft of the transmission and the gears mounted on it...the "flywheel mass") to change rotational speed. I'm sure they want to balance out how fast the transmission seems to shift with the fact that actually shifting "instantly" MUST slip the clutches for the amount of time it takes for that rotating mass to adjust. In other words, the faster the shifts, the sooner the clutches wear out, and they'll want to keep expected clutch life span reasonable. So how fast will the clutches actually be programmed to engage? That's a different question than how fast CAN they engage. Now I don't know anything about anything. Maybe 2 milliseconds is enough time such that the life span of the clutches is still expected to be plenty long? Maybe 20 milliseconds is still fast enough that a human can't feel the difference, and will double the expected life span? My only solid point here is that this IS something to be considered.
Combining both the best stuff about single clutch and dual clutch, having 9 gears, shifting incredibly fast, all while being incredibly light. Christian and his team are a bunch of geniuses. And also major props to you. Beautifully explained. You and PapadakisRacing are the only UA-cam channels I watch every video from.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but HONDA had similar setup on their 5-speed automatic, isn't? It has torque convertor but gearbox itself isn't planetary like in all autos, but usual 2-shafts. And each gear has its own clutches to engage.
They are simply putting wet-multi-clutches instead of cone clutches (shncronizers) in manual transmission. The idea is simple, but complexity of control, too much cost, issues with reliability are somewhat unwise.
Oh, this is cool. This is more like bicycle gears than a regular transmission. You could even drive it with a manual shifter (instead of paddles), but without a clutch pedal, that would just be attached to a computer controlling the clutches. I wonder if CVT/automatic/electric (and even DCT) drive trains will ever actually make "fake" shifters that will control the drive ratio in some fashion, for people who want more fun and engagement. It's not a new drive train configuration, so it would not have to go through all the expensive testing required.
Lluis Fargas López yes I’m aware that’s the bulk of it but I’ve already taken intro to design and engineering foundations and gear ratios, torque, and mechanical adv are all big topics
@@mohamedhussein5190 i see you are an enthusiast. You will get some fun fore sure if you don't worry to much about marks and try to enrolle in sone extra curricular activities. Right now I'm into the design of the refrigeration system for the batteries of an electric competition motorbike. Thought what I've liked the most are structures I have started to find some fun in the thermodynamics world and simulations with cae programs.
denzyl casuela I think that all modern transmissions have way too many clutches now 😂 Even my parents’ 2016 Pilot has a freaking 9 speed dual clutch transmission! Fast? Yes, but necessary? I’d rather get something I could actually DIY on at home lmao Edit: never mind about DCT; misconceived because of the paddle shifters and the quick shifts But still! 9 gears is way too many to service regularly in an automatic- I’m fine with 4spd auto Accords and my Passport
I don’t get why cars don’t all use wet clutches. They can’t be that expensive if motorcycles do it. I’ve never smelled clutch burn on my bike no matter how I use the clutch, I have in a car.
For those wondering why It’s because Christian von Koenigsegg is a mad scientist who just likes to dream up crazy things and try them out to see what happens, because he can so why the hell not 😂
Not that i am some enlightened being or anything like it but what most people don't realize is that when you pay millions for a Koenigsegg you are not paying for a car, you are paying for a Van Gogh on wheels, whereas instead of a painting, you get a machine engineered to art.
Good call. If I had the parking space I'd own one of those; can't imagine them being any cheaper than they are now (which is already ridiculously low for what you get, unless you go for a competition pack model).
Great explanation as always Jason! It's really fascinating they put clutches where syncromeshes are usually at. From what I see the clutch 4, 5, 6 are the busiest ones for daily city driving as they're responsible for 1st to 3rd gear changes. The least used one perhaps the clutch 3, if you don't shift beyond 6th gear you'd never use it. All this changes if you mainly run the car on circuit though. After a year of daily usage the clutch sets 4 - 6 would wear out the most, then perhaps the clutch 1? As there is no "flywheel" vs main clutch plate slip to start the car, like in standard car, would this gearbox let the clutch 1 fully grip then let the clutch 4 slip to start the vehicle? Or vise versa? Or both clutches slip to start the car? In a metaphor for bicycle, the 1st tier gear sets are like you have 3 gears on front derailer and 2nd sets are the rear 3 gears - hence gives you 9 possible different ratio combinations. 3 is a nice number, 2x2 wouldn't really work coz that only gives you 4 speeds, 4x4 is bit too excessive (16 speeds) but might work for trucks.
Nice thinking outside the box - bike gearing analogies are perfect :) Wouldn't want the control unit in that thing to go on the blink and close all 7 clutches at the same time mind :o
The other thing i would like to understand is how do the batteries produce so much power i dont understand how it can do that? do you know anything about the batteries and power?
Just bought a new set of Bose head phones and I regret it. I am returning them immediately because they made the mouth noises extremely clear and uncomfortable. Great vid though.
what i dont understand is how does the KDD know if you want to shift up or down through the gears? is it all about the throttle? how much you push the throttle or not?
Its not that hard to imagine. you just need to have the engine RPM to be the same as it would be after you would shift normally. Say you're in 3rd gear at 30mph you would probably be at 3000 RPM engine speed. When you shift to 4th it would go down to 2000rpm so if you pull the stick into neutral which requires 0 effort. Get the RPM to 2000 then put it in 4th. The synchros in the transmission essentially do that for you, but they can wear out. Although messing up clutchless shifting will wear out the teeth of the transmission
But is it as fast and smooth, as Jason switching from tech talk into promoting his article and back? 🤔
You said it so well
Impossibru
Haha, nice call
No.
It's faster. :D
Von Koenigsegg: Hey now, let's not get crazy. We're good, but not that good.
7:11 Wow wow easy buddy, you can't start speaking fluent italian in the middle of the video
Deliziosa!
How long will it take before someone mixes that with some peter griffin arguing in italian?
im dead lmfao
This comment.... hi fu king la rious. XD
Funniest thing i've read in a long time
Normal car person: I burnt my clutch
Koenigsegg car person : I burnt one of my clutches not sure which one.
Ha, fun to think about. You could actually figure it out by trying the different gear pairs, and seeing which individual clutch didn't work based on the three forward speeds that rely on it.
Automatics have multiple clutches
@@EngineeringExplained I'm sure they have sensors to find out which clutch/gear is failed
@@EngineeringExplained
Haha get woooooshed, mate.
@@dank7491 he didnt he understood the joke as he said "Ha funny to think about" than explained how the problem can be solved also you wrote too many O's Baka
Why can't my university lecturers explain stuff this well?
Someone should just give you a medal already.
Dragan Postolovski
Love how he explains stuff
Or we can just kidnap/clone him and force the clones to teach at universities. It's for the better of humanity, victories eventually come at a small price.
I know this was more of a rhetorical question, but the gist of it is that your university professor doesn't really have to go above and beyond. He only needs to do his job, and if he isn't passionate, that's that. Jason on the other hand needs to be good at what he does, since his success in teaching is directly proportionate to how well his channel is doing, and thus his income.
The thing is your professors (need to) explain things more indepht, include more math etc.
Obviously it's harder to understand if it's more complex. These videos explain the basic principle in good detail, but that's it.
Todestuete yup exactly I agree. A lot of people miss/forget that. He explains the basic concept. But it will always be harder when we have to go into the math and go more in depth.
But how are they gonna fit 7 clutch pedals on the floorboard?
:-)
xD
4 of the clutch pedals will be put into the passenger foot well so that the passenger can also experience the car
It really is a spider car
😂😂😂😂😂
Christian: 7 clutches.
Engineer: you mean gears.
Christian: No clutches.
Engineering: ah sh!t.
This is the most eductional video about cars in this channel
As far as I remember it was just the opposite.
Engineer: 7 clutches
Christian: you mean 7 gears.
Engineer: no, I had my meds, 7 clutches and it works.
Christian: you are right, it works /someone please check his meds box before I give it a green light/
Engineer: What are you looking at on my desk? Yes my pc is unplugged but the ZPM works just fine... Check out this gearbox, this one is cool! :-)
Engineers: How many clutches do you want in your transmission?
Koenigsegg: Yes
ALL OF THEM
Alot
I always say the "yes" in russian accent in my head.
I say it in a "normal" accent, but with a non-smiling, straightforward face, and say it relatively quickly
Keonigsegg: MOAR! CLUTCH!
That's quite the elaborate pun to get to the magazine!
Koenigsegg: Design a supercar that requires no transmission, only a torque converter to shame other hypercar manufacturers
Also Koenigsegg: Doubles down on the engineering and reinvents the transmission to again shame the competition.
NoFanSLand exactly
@amarjit singh definently the most potent hypercar out there
NoFanSLand. It’s amazing the amount of groundbreaking stuff they come up with at Koenigsegg. The major car companies probably have multi billion dollar development budgets and can’t even compete with a niche car maker for ingenuity!
@@David-lr2vi can't compete with Koenigsegg? To be fair, all these "innovations" Koenigsegg came up with (Free Valve, Lightspeed transmission, top mounted spoiler, etc) are pretty meaningless if the car is not performing.
For example every McLaren Senna with half the power or even a 488 pista is faster around tracks than these Koenigseggs.
Koenigsegg cars are brutal but way less refined, they often lack traction or stability, which makes them hard and not fun to drive unlike cars such as the Gt2rs, the pista or the Senna, which all are way less powerful but better performing.
Nik7 BKH. Well McLaren is another niche car maker. I understand that the whole package makes the car. My whole point is that it seems that it’s the small volume car makers that seem to be doing all the R&D these days and not the mainstream companies like Toyota, Honda, Ford, GM, etc.
Maybe the big car companies are all spending their R&D money on electric cars?
*_Sold my Honda S2000 for a Koenigsegg_*
Basically an even trade! Only had to put 2 million down!
@@EngineeringExplained That's what i call a bargain!
Gamma Light
Jason: Mr. Koenigsegg, i’ve come to bargin!
Von Koenigsegg: *_End This!_*
Wrong channel. I think you were looking for Vehicle Virgins
Engineering Explained $1 per sub. fair enough.
Apparently Koenigsegg has a cheat code to close all clutches
That unlockes warp drive mode
Pretty neat
More like nose dive mode
😂😂😂😂😂
Ultimate trans break for drag racing haha. All gears lock and trans both in forward and reverse all at once
Epic!!!
Wouldn't that activate reverse + all forward gears = stall the car? ;)
I'm in for a new clutch.
"Which one?".
hitlersmissingnut all of the above
So your the one they call Hitlers missing nut
Yes.
supersonic118 boi damn didn’t notice it till u mentioned it :). ,I hav a habit of reading majority of comments, and some can be interesting.
“Well sir, we’re having a special today. For every three clutches you replace, we’ll throw in the fourth for free. That’s 8 clutches for the price of 6!”
"we're gonna go 9th to 2nd, just to demonstrate that"
goodbye pistons
Hello unintentional block porting.
Wut? I do that in games and the engine just powers through it. ??? Explain please.
Well if you're in 9th for fuel economy then go to 2nd for power it's fine. The new Corvettes do this all the time.
Youre supposed to go from 9th to R for racing
@@theenzoferrari458 well you see if you're in 9th gear and you want to go to 2nd gear, 9+2 is 13, which is 2 digits and a car can't handle that much digits.
in the game, the number overflows and loops back around to 1st gear, so its fine.
Dual clutch transmission is better that single clutch transmission
Koenigsegg: hold my beer
"The more the better right?"
This is the best comment yet....
hold my gear
so seven cluthc is better then duel for the five time :D
Hold my *meatballs
9:28
"So you're on the highway cruising, you want as much power as possible"
Yeah, to undertake that truck hogging the left lane @ 55 mph, being in a 1600 hp Koenigsegg I would need just that
Coffee Pjesht nah, it’s so that when you see someone come flying up on you in a car they think is fast and you want to show them what fast really means. Or, when you want to pass that person who is causing your lane to go significantly slower than the passing lane so you can catch that opening.
@@dj7291993 It's definitely for dick waving. Nothing else on the road can outpull a 1600hp Koenigsegg dropping into its peak powerband in 2ms
Granted Koenigsegg are always playing around with technology that might be implemented in normal cars. They've been working on their freevalve technology for a few years now which (like the transmission) make the engine smaller and more efficient. This transmission could easily be implemented in other cars.
@@brynclarke1746 trust me there's plenty of modified street racing cars out there that's faster
When the light switches from green to yellow!
It's a shame they focused too much on how to make a 7 clutch car instead of adding another 400hp, make it an even 2000hp with maybe just 5 clutch?.
For this reason I'll stick with my Prius.
Koenigsegg just made the fastest _________. (Answer: everything)
vibrator
Robot cat girl
Human
anus
@@ValentineC137 NEVS and Koenigsegg created a joint venture on 29th January: "partnering up to develop a product for new and untapped segments, leveraging both of the companies’ strengths." This might mean a fully electric Koenigsegg. :D
Bugatti engineers: Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!
@Amarjit Singh not even a official record and they would get smoked on a track
@Amarjit Singh i think transmissions doesnt affect top speed but acceleration correct me if im wrong
If all subs put down just $1 than Jason could make a video reviewing OUR Jesko.
I'd even let you drive it!
Engineering Explained
Deal!
I'm in :-)
I'm in, too. But be warned. If everybody of your 2.2M subscribers gets 5 Minutes of driving time, the car needs to operate non-stop for 21 years. Better get a dedicated pit crew, a dependable fuel supplier and a ton of tyres.Edit: But you might get a couple of world records: Highest number of people crowdfunding one car. Highest number of people driving one car. Reaching 1 Million kilometers/miles in the shortest possible time with a single car. And many more :-)
you'd need $1.50/person and many people may not donate so it could make it go up to $2.00/person
They looked at a bike transmission and were like:
"Damn, i wish i had that many gears"
Cracked Emerald yeah. I was literally coming to the comments to see if anyone saw this as well.
Until you realize that modern bikes have 12 speed drivetrains
@@Owmarsh12 lamo yeah all of them are one by 12
I presume that's exactly what was inspiring the engineer that came up with the idea. Because CvK did mention and compare it with bicycle gears.
You know what's more insane than this technology? Engineering Explained's informative content yo.
You know what's actually insane? Konigsegg figured out how to apply a mountain bike's gearing concept to handle 1600hp.
@@Ribbityibzki I don't recall many mountain bikes using clutches tho ... :D
@@kenkalajdzic not the clutches, but the gearset.
What's more insane than this technology? Any consumer ignorant enough to buy it!😰
Beastly Buick V6 It’s actually ignorant to not buy it. The people who have the chance to buy it can resell it and make crazy amounts of profit. This type of car resells for 2 to 3 the original purchase price.
biker: look at my clutch pack
koenigsegg: that's cute
One clutch: slow
Two clutches: faster
Koenigseggegesgesgesge: GIVE EVERY GEAR A CLUTCH NOW
She was great. Swimming with the sharks. She was the white one
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahahaha
give every gear TWO clutches! (except reverse)
@@lucywucyyy According to the whiteboard there already is! (Reverse included.)
Normal Homosapiens: Single Clutch Transmission
Fast Homosapiens: Dual Clutch Transmission
Koenigsegg: sEVeN cLuTcH tRaNsMisSiOn
😂😂😂😂😂
❤️
@CraZy Jay complexity, reliability, and price, maybe?
It's diagnostic manual might just come with a single fault code,
PXXXX: Replace transmission assembly
😂
Fly car back to Koenigsegg factory!
It would actually. Nobody knows how to work on this besides them lol
You really had to quote my Evo's manual, didn't you? :'(
Luckily it isnt a kia with an expected lifetime mileage of 200k
Im studying mechanical engineering at DTU in Denmark, one of our teachers helped koenigsegg building this transmission. He told us that the biggest challange with this transmission was that the gears had to be very thin because of all the clutches. Most computer programs said the transmission was completly impossible to design. The tolerances in this transmission is extremely tight, and also the expected lifetime is not that high :D
He propably lied cuz Koenigsegg haven't said anything about it being bad in durability. The latest video about the gearbox litterly says it has very low wear of the gears and clutches.
Either way it’s a revolutionary feat in engineering and it’s too bad this was developed in the tail end of ICE era of automotive technology (although I don’t fully believe ICE is as close to being phased out as everyone wants us to believe, it is inevitable) I truly hope koenigsegg will license this to other manufacturers so us as simpletons will get to experience this. This has long been dream by car manufacturers and enthusiasts alike. Bravo, damn swedens put a perpetual watch in a transmission
But that can be resolved with engineering new or better material
It's a mystery that a very low production car company can actually innovate in such an expensive R&D high tech area like this. Most "bespoke" manufacturers have no choice but to just use other people's parts. Even Rolls-Royce used GM transmissions. Amazing.
The difference being is that cars like Rolls-Royce are going to driven unlike the Koenigsegg which are garage queen due to how long it takes to get any repaired when the cars break down which happens frequently. Most of the technology koenigsegg uses has already been experimented by other automakers. There’s a reason they didn’t use said technology mostly because the difficulty of mass production, too little improvement over existing designs, or being unreliable.
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Actually, with fewer engineers, you can concentrate on the important design features. With a 100 engineers, you get too many opinions and a mediocre all-round design (does not excel at any one thing).
@@abes3925 i can tell you no one else did this, or the Freevalve system, or the transmissiin they use in the Regera.
@@R4M_Tommy you're right about not having the Free valve in a production car. But we had protype engines running on the same concept in the 90s at Navistar. Unfortunately controllers weren't fast enough at the time to do it reliably for hundreds of thousands of miles.
@@abes3925that is all BS lies from u. Koenigsegg's has never broke down without an driver error being the reason like reving the car as soon as u start it. Koenigsegg uses billet aluminium blocks litterly more durable than the W16 from Bugatti.
So each clutch is able to pass 1600 HP... mind blowing !
7:11 Dr. John A. Zoidberg would be proud. 🦀
lol
Crab crab crab!
It amazes me how Koenigsegg and Rimac keep making these innovations despite being the smallest companies in the industry
Watch Geek it does feel surprising at first but if it’s anything like the IT industry it’s the very reason(being small) they have such fast innovation cycles. Of course the prerequisite for that to work is that they really know what they are doing. And they do.
So it's basically like a 21 speed bicycle 3x7 rather than a traditional gearbox being 1x7?
That's a very interesting way of putting it.
I hope you realize how brilliant you are.... wow
Yes, but with clutches. Lots of clutches.
No it's not. It's 3x3 giving 9 speeds.
@@mcplutt dude... I bet he well knows that. But a bicycle has 21 gears in most cases.he was referring to this fact
Remember some years ago there were a lot of people saying that Koenigsegg made cars with highly tuned and modified engines and not much more than that... Well it's been time I don't hear (read) those type of comments anymore. Koenigsegg proves itself more and more everytime.
8:49 Nice self-plug in the Road & Track magazine. That is so awesome!!!
Plug smoother than that 9th to 2nd downshift.
😂😂😂bet it's smother than koenigsegg transmission.
Is it me, or are Koenigsegg engineers just making the ultimate car?
park is easy😀 close all clutches
You only need to close two on the same shaft...
And I bet this thing is gonna blow up often... all it takes is one clutch to fail and locka and it's over... (although, clutches usually slip with they fail, so maybe it's not such a problem).
Woosh
@Deadlyguy135 i think you need pressure to open them
@@mikkihintikka7273 in dual clutch transmissions they are pressure _closed_ (unlike on a manual, where the clutch is pressure _opened_ ), it's a safety feature. I guess it's the same with the königsegg. For park you only need one actuator and a notch in the output shaft.
@@mikkihintikka7273 yes, like on a motorcycle or manual trans car traditionally; but with so many clutches in this design(7 counting reverse) where most of them have to be open(5 open and only 2 closed for forward gears, and 6 open for reverse) it would seem better if normally they were all open in a 'resting' state ... a car or motorcycle uses springs to hold the clutch closed at rest, but here you could just use a solenoid to close it at will?
- I wish he would have said how they operated the clutches in the video
How does Koenigsegg handle the 3/4 and 6/7 shifts, especially with clutch overlap for continuous power delivery? Those two involve swapping not one but two pairs of clutches - shifting one sub-transmission a step up and shifting the other down. All modern multi-clutch automatics involve only a single clutch-to-clutch swap for every sequential and double shift to avoid engine flare or bogging down the engine.
Timing.
This is one of the things that separate hypercars from insanely moded 1000+ hp cars.
Yes but those cars dont need all this.
A 700hp Foxbody Mustang can run 9s
Same as a 690whp/750+ hp 720s can
Over engineering isnt really necessary
@@tcroft2165 you think race shop built cars
By pro drivers like larry larson are not
On par with this? This guy started out
The same way. From scratch
@@tcroft2165
Now use the C7 ZR1 for example. Has
Out lapped the 720s on track like V.I.R
While also running low 10second 1/4
Mile times and also weighs 3600 ibs
Plum_Crazy 1992
What exactly is over engineered on the LST?
It’s small, simple, weights 90kg (200lbs), doesn’t even need a flywheel and can handle 1600HP.
@@Conservator. it's 90kg, not 9kg
Dr.-Emmett-Brown-voice: "Where we are going we don't need .... Shifting Transmissions!" *flies into the future*
;)
You can literally read the excitement off Jason's face. Thank you so much for such an amazing video and explanation. You the man
Ha, thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Literally figuratively ahh what’s the difference
Manual transmission and rear wheel drive...
Honda NSX!!! Complete the Honda history
@Ursus_VF Ursus_VF if by better you mean faster than you're wrong
This somehow reminds me of a mountain bike gears, only with clutches and more complexity.
Exactly what I was thinking.... I respect Christian von Koenigsegg for his willingness to think outside the box. He brings something new with every new model
Same
Yeah same.
But obviously your not gonna be able to unleash 1600 bhp on a mountainbike set-up
That chain will probably snap before you can blink.
Christian Koenigsegg mentioned mountain bikes too in one of his interviews
Me:S2000 for a miata,that's foolish.
Jason: Hold my beer 😂
*Apple: iPod*
*Koenigsegg* no u (UPOD)
That's it, get out! XD
Based on the fact that most of the times, the abbrevation is chosen before you think what it may mean, this sounds extremely realistic :D
Don't honda used to have 5 clutch plates for their 5 speeds auto? Thus giant
Why does the clutch have to be the same size as a normal one?
Hey this is actually how I thought an automatic transmission worked when I was 13! Cool to see actually be a thing now.
*_I Replaced My Honda S2000 With a Koenigsegg Jesko_*
Why is it that I always subscribe to guys like you?
Road and Track? Mic drop.....
very informative and in depth! great video jason!
AAAHHHHHH I read that article!!! I totally almost passed this video because of how well you explained it in the article! 👌
As an automotive engineering student this is just baffling. Koenigsegg revolutionizes so many things in automotive technology which has been somewhat the same for a hundred years..
I'm assuming this has been thought of but the complexity and price has been a factor. A DCT is already 20-30k, can't imagine what this will cost.
30 years. 100 years is stretching it.
As an HET, all modern large equipment uses this style of transmission/gearbox, nothing new.
as an automotive engineering student.. you should know this is simply a traditional automatic gearbox with cog gears instead of planetary. im actually worried about the future of automotive engineering if you think this is baffling or revolutionary.
pop quiz: explain how this gearbox operates fundamentally differently than the automatic in a '69 chev? you cant. its just a few extra gears, and the gears are shaped differently
And the 90kg the transmission weighs includes the Diff, starter motor, clutches and the flywheel(as there is none) :)
Corvette owner: "I had to replace my transmission and it cost what I make in a month!"
Jesko owner: "Wow that sucks huh" rolls eyes
Probably costs what corvette owner makes in a year
Whoever owns either vehicles should be too bothered with the repair bill, considering the very cost of their vehicles.
Yooooo are we going to engage a clutchpack to turn the steering wheel also? 😳
Are there any updates, latest developments on their FreeValve research?
FreeValve doesn't work, its purely a gimmick
Yea, it would be nice to know what's actually happening to these technologies. With Koenigsegg's advancements, like the removal of camshaft and this smaller transmission, we could be expecting as much as 1/4 ton of weight reduction. It would be a real shame not to see that permeate the whole market.
China is the only other country mass producing the first consumer friendly freevalve engines from koenigsegg
@@Varadiio FreeValve isn't going to happen, its not useful at all...
Paul Bautista yeah I hope to hear more updates from them soon. They claim to have put their actuators through hundreds of millions of cycles of testing with no measurable wear. Pretty impressive.
Wow, this was pretty informative. I was wondering if you could do a video on specifics on the clutch packs on the Jesko (clutch packs on modern transmissions period, actually)? I know it uses solenoids and all, I think it would be a cool video if you were to dig deeper in the differences and benefits/drawbacks to this component.
So...
Is it basically non-planetary automatic trans?
Basically.
With no torque converter...
@@gertahnstrom784 First they build a car without a gearbox and just a huge torque converter, and now they build a car with a (kind of/possibly) automatic transmission without a torque converter. Can they please make up their minds? 😋
Yeah, so much talk about what just about any AT has. Are the only differences here that it's not planetary and has more clutch packs? Both being not that unique actually.
So It is named this way because the transmission is light and it transmits speed?
Or the time it takes to shift is measured in light speed (in vacuum?) over some undisclosed distance?
Wet clutches are still not instant, it takes time to fill the clutchpack with oil.
Oil? They don't need any stinkin' oil! They've got SENSORS!!!😂😂😂
Why don’t they make a dual clutch manual? Just four pedals and two gear knobs right? 🤔
I was thinking about this the whole time. You could probably actually do it with just 3 pedals still. Clutch pedal releases all clutches.
Nah mate, next generation of this transmission will use 7 clutch pedals and 7 gear knobs, 2 is for noob 😂
This kind of reminded me of bicycle gears. You have something like three chainrings on the front sprocket, and something like six cogs on the rear. A combination between which chainring and cog you are using decides the speed of your bike.
Bro, weren't you like 21 like 4 years ago? How did you travel through time and became 42?
Hey Jason could you please make a video on CVTs? The last one you made was almost 2 years back. We would like to know more about the CVTs.
Cheers!!
Once you draw it out, it looks so evident, why did nobody think about this before?
cost.
It's like gears in a mountain bike 🚲
But true: some of these clutches (if not all) have to deal with enormous torqe.
All of them must be actuated in some way (oil pressure?)
They have thought of it before. My 1992 Honda Accord's transmission works the same way.
Get a Viper, Jason. It's RWD and manual so it fits your requirements.
How do they even manage to develop these amazing technologies while they sell so few cars. Granted, the cars are expensive, but R&D is also incredibly expensive.
Definitely very impressive
Christian doesn't just manufacture and sell cars. Apparently they also own several sister companies that hold several patents and do other stuff related to automotive technologies. For example, the FreeValve. And if I am not mistaken, the recent Top Gear videos also mentioned about them owning their own carbon fibre factory in Spain. Pretty sure they also invested in several other companies.
If you look closer, Christians solutions are at most time simple and straight forward to implement, like this gearbox is just a manual gearbox with clutches for every gear while other manufacturers spend billions on cutting corners and developing tech that guarantee a fixed point of failure
@@thapelomashaomasemola7922 Sometimes, yes. Good point.
But they do almost everything in house apart from the tires. Not even the big ones do that
That was a light speed transition 8:50
Drop the people who disliked the video between those gears ⚙️
While the engine is at its max rpm. THAT'S BRUTAL
Isn't this just how Honda autos from the 90s worked, minus a torque converter?
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. The transmission control module in my 92 Accord just crapped out, so just yesterday, I was reading the factory service manual and read all about the transmission. Yep, it definitely works the same way.
No, honda autos were just manuals bunged onto a TC.
when you shifted from 9th to 2nd i could hear the valves floating. lol.
Not if they pair it with their camless valve system thing 😬
Yeah it's silly, the engine needs time to rev match anyway.
@@dubeights even the camless will have a limit. its still moving mechanical parts that can only take so much force before parts begin to stretch or fail.
"The clutches can open/close in 2 milliseconds."
But WILL they in actual use? I imagine SOME time allowance must be made for the engine rotating assembly (and primary input shaft of the transmission and the gears mounted on it...the "flywheel mass") to change rotational speed. I'm sure they want to balance out how fast the transmission seems to shift with the fact that actually shifting "instantly" MUST slip the clutches for the amount of time it takes for that rotating mass to adjust. In other words, the faster the shifts, the sooner the clutches wear out, and they'll want to keep expected clutch life span reasonable.
So how fast will the clutches actually be programmed to engage? That's a different question than how fast CAN they engage.
Now I don't know anything about anything. Maybe 2 milliseconds is enough time such that the life span of the clutches is still expected to be plenty long? Maybe 20 milliseconds is still fast enough that a human can't feel the difference, and will double the expected life span? My only solid point here is that this IS something to be considered.
Your clutch switching moves have a striking resemblance to Dr. Zoidberg's mating dance signs. 🦀
I paused afterwards at 7:20 to look for this comment, and I found it. Thanks, im not alone in these thoughts.
Haha, well said.
I know this is 5 years old and no one’s gonna see this, but do you think this type of transmission could be used for the devel sixteen engine?
Combining both the best stuff about single clutch and dual clutch, having 9 gears, shifting incredibly fast, all while being incredibly light. Christian and his team are a bunch of geniuses. And also major props to you. Beautifully explained. You and PapadakisRacing are the only UA-cam channels I watch every video from.
Please correct me if I'm wrong but HONDA had similar setup on their 5-speed automatic, isn't? It has torque convertor but gearbox itself isn't planetary like in all autos, but usual 2-shafts. And each gear has its own clutches to engage.
Get an 86/BRZ/FR-S! Great community with a ton of available mods. Would love to see one torn down with your engineering expertise!
Yes! And throw a turbo under the hood! 👍
They are simply putting wet-multi-clutches instead of cone clutches (shncronizers) in manual transmission. The idea is simple, but complexity of control, too much cost, issues with reliability are somewhat unwise.
Excuse me while I come down from the anebriation due to all these juicy, nerdy, techy fact drugs I just injested!! 👐🏾
Buy a Honda Beat :)
They're ubelievable fun and the E07A MTREC sounds amazing!
They probably making the best car on earth
That's already been confirmed before this.
Oh, this is cool. This is more like bicycle gears than a regular transmission. You could even drive it with a manual shifter (instead of paddles), but without a clutch pedal, that would just be attached to a computer controlling the clutches. I wonder if CVT/automatic/electric (and even DCT) drive trains will ever actually make "fake" shifters that will control the drive ratio in some fashion, for people who want more fun and engagement. It's not a new drive train configuration, so it would not have to go through all the expensive testing required.
Props for getting that article in Road and Track!
well i have a question,
now isn't the 2nd (1&5) gear the same as the 4th (2&4) gear.
so how does this make the car go faster.
I’m starting my Mechanical Engineering undergrad this fall and these videos r really helpful!
You are not seeing any of this but prepare for materials science, elasticity, mechanisms, thermodynamichs (heat transfer) ...
Lluis Fargas López yes I’m aware that’s the bulk of it but I’ve already taken intro to design and engineering foundations and gear ratios, torque, and mechanical adv are all big topics
@@mohamedhussein5190 i see you are an enthusiast. You will get some fun fore sure if you don't worry to much about marks and try to enrolle in sone extra curricular activities. Right now I'm into the design of the refrigeration system for the batteries of an electric competition motorbike. Thought what I've liked the most are structures I have started to find some fun in the thermodynamics world and simulations with cae programs.
Will never be as fast as a Tesla 😉
so its basically a 7 clutch transmission
denzyl casuela I think that all modern transmissions have way too many clutches now 😂
Even my parents’ 2016 Pilot has a freaking 9 speed dual clutch transmission!
Fast? Yes, but necessary? I’d rather get something I could actually DIY on at home lmao
Edit: never mind about DCT; misconceived because of the paddle shifters and the quick shifts
But still! 9 gears is way too many to service regularly in an automatic-
I’m fine with 4spd auto Accords and my Passport
@@Creeperboy099 maybe you just need an automatic for convenient cruzing, not for speed :)
I don’t get why cars don’t all use wet clutches. They can’t be that expensive if motorcycles do it. I’ve never smelled clutch burn on my bike no matter how I use the clutch, I have in a car.
6/12 - Jason sells S2000 claiming wants a car with a manual...
6/19 - Jason puts deposit on A90/Mk5 Supra like everyone else.
Blechhh
For those wondering why
It’s because Christian von Koenigsegg is a mad scientist who just likes to dream up crazy things and try them out to see what happens, because he can so why the hell not 😂
There is never enough when it comes to clutches 🤣🤣🤣
Not that i am some enlightened being or anything like it but what most people don't realize is that when you pay millions for a Koenigsegg you are not paying for a car, you are paying for a Van Gogh on wheels, whereas instead of a painting, you get a machine engineered to art.
Go for an E46 M3 if you can. At least you got two 'backup' cars for when it breaks down.
Good call. If I had the parking space I'd own one of those; can't imagine them being any cheaper than they are now (which is already ridiculously low for what you get, unless you go for a competition pack model).
So this is the gearbox that feels like a CVT because its shifting cannot physically be perceived by humans.
pretty neat, reminds me of how a mountain bike shifts.
Great explanation as always Jason! It's really fascinating they put clutches where syncromeshes are usually at.
From what I see the clutch 4, 5, 6 are the busiest ones for daily city driving as they're responsible for 1st to 3rd gear changes. The least used one perhaps the clutch 3, if you don't shift beyond 6th gear you'd never use it. All this changes if you mainly run the car on circuit though.
After a year of daily usage the clutch sets 4 - 6 would wear out the most, then perhaps the clutch 1? As there is no "flywheel" vs main clutch plate slip to start the car, like in standard car, would this gearbox let the clutch 1 fully grip then let the clutch 4 slip to start the vehicle? Or vise versa? Or both clutches slip to start the car?
In a metaphor for bicycle, the 1st tier gear sets are like you have 3 gears on front derailer and 2nd sets are the rear 3 gears - hence gives you 9 possible different ratio combinations. 3 is a nice number, 2x2 wouldn't really work coz that only gives you 4 speeds, 4x4 is bit too excessive (16 speeds) but might work for trucks.
Super brilliant explanation, Thanks you
If anyone could make the fastest transmission, it would be the Swedish love child that is Koenigsegg.
-"Im here for a new clutch"
- "which one ?"
- "yes"
Nice thinking outside the box - bike gearing analogies are perfect :) Wouldn't want the control unit in that thing to go on the blink and close all 7 clutches at the same time mind :o
A Tesla's transmission is even faster. You can't get faster than that.
The other thing i would like to understand is how do the batteries produce so much power i dont understand how it can do that? do you know anything about the batteries and power?
Just bought a new set of Bose head phones and I regret it. I am returning them immediately because they made the mouth noises extremely clear and uncomfortable. Great vid though.
what i dont understand is how does the KDD know if you want to shift up or down through the gears? is it all about the throttle? how much you push the throttle or not?
Can you please do a video about clutchless shifting?
Its not that hard to imagine. you just need to have the engine RPM to be the same as it would be after you would shift normally.
Say you're in 3rd gear at 30mph you would probably be at 3000 RPM engine speed. When you shift to 4th it would go down to 2000rpm so if you pull the stick into neutral which requires 0 effort. Get the RPM to 2000 then put it in 4th.
The synchros in the transmission essentially do that for you, but they can wear out. Although messing up clutchless shifting will wear out the teeth of the transmission
@@Pheatan I know how to shift without a clutch and why and how it works. I'm more interested in the possible damage caused by doing this constantly.