How-To: FIND, BID & WIN Rough Framing Projects In Under 30 Minutes! [
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Today, we're going to go over FIVE things when it comes to bidding rough framing projects, such as cost per square foot.. access.. height changes and other variables! In under 30 minutes you'll know how to FIND, PRICE and LAND framing projects as a contractor.
ASK THESE 5 QUESTIONS:
1) Square Footage: 1,344 SF - 120 SF covered porch.
2) Single or Multi-Level: 2
3) Hand Cut Roof? Trusses?: Trusses, TJI Floor
4) Access? Reach Lift or No?: Yes
5) High End? Production?: Production, wall heights? 9' lower, 8' upper. PRODUCTION.
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This video is VERY high level and meant for those out there looking to get started pricing projects!
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5 Questions for SUCCESS:
1) Square Footage:
2) Single or Multi-Level:
3) Hand Cut Roof? Trusses?:
4) Access? Reach Lift or No?:
5) High End? Production?: Production, wall heights?
Do you think some one could do cyber security, and have a job in construction?
Regardless of your youth, your professionalism in framing knowledge, employee co-ordination, video delivery and editing is among the best in social media. It is seen in your sharing of construction practices, do's and don'ts, mistakes(although few)and corrections and the way you never hesitate when explaining details. I can't see anyone denying a bid of your's. Top notch all the way. Grandpa and Dad should be very proud!
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I can't tell you how helpful and well timed this video was! I've been learning the construction trade from my father, and his father, for decades and will soon be going for my own class A license. Between my own life experience and the great tips I pick up from your videos, I'm confident and look forward to the future!
Saved to my "save list" if I ever decide to build a new detached garage!
I have absolutely no business use for this information, and yet I watched every minute. I am fascinated by the business side of things; how much money is made, how it's made, and what are the behind the scenes costs that most people don't think about. It gives me a greater appreciation for the seemingly mundane things in the world around us. Thanks for a great video on that!
This is a really advanced video with a lot of useful knowledge. Great job Matt, there's a lot of guys out there that have the skill but just not the business know-how. As much as I want our field to remain scarce (for obvious and selfish reasons), I also wish somebody showed me the way a lot sooner. Everybody deserves a shot
Yes exactly
Hi Matt, do you think making mistakes in framing and things around framing got you to where you are at? Sometimes I make mistakes framing a house and wonder if the mistakes will lessen haha.
I've done a lot of different things over the years..
I've made mistakes doing every single thing, and I can safely say I learn from each one.. Mistakes will lessen, absolutely, but ONLY if you allow yourself to learn from it.
PROBLEM -> SOLUTION -> HABIT.
If you frame a window wrong, and don't take the time to learn WHY it's wrong, you'll frame it wrong again..
Wow that was great.
Makes me realize that I was giving my work away for peanuts.
Dang, way to much work and headache for me. I'm glad I was a finish carpenter working smaller jobs.
Excellent video. Well put together!
Love this. This answers everything I have been thinking and trying to figure out being a new contractor.
Man thank you so much! You gave me ALOT OF GOOD INFO!!! ❤❤❤
I appreciate your insight. I'm just starting off as a contractor and every bit of information helps.
Yeah man it helps especially since im planning on doing the same thing as him. Though having trouble finding the range of $/sq ft in WA
Gotta tip.... never never never do your quotes based on days... always quote using weeks... if you crush a 5 day job in 4 days or finish out a job on wednesday the following week, let them cover those days off.
But either way, quote weeks... and add 30% to ALL material that you are providing.
Most our lumber tickets are upwards of $100-150K, sometimes more including trusses. If I could get 30%, I'd make more buying lumber than doing the work itself.
Smaller tickets, $25K, I've never had any success charging more than 15% / 20%.
Love the weekly advice. I couldn't imagine breaking it down to daily, my head would spin.. I can only guestimate close to accurate with weeks.
@@MattBangsWood You are absolutely correct, 30k on top of a 100k lumber package is Crazy lol... but thats what the GC's / builders charge, so the money is there.. its a smoke and mirrors game, I use excel, have base pricing for everything and enter in jobsite distances...estimated weeks on site and it poops out a number. Guess I use the 30% as more of a " this is the companies pay check" . Most guys pay their help, pay themselves, but forget to pay the company...
Hello im looking to frame residential homes in WA on my own. any tips on how to find the $/sq ft from production- luxury homes like mentioned in the video?
Bro this is some awesome info love this video can't wait to get into this business
Awesome information here. Thanks brother
Very informative. When you are reviewing plans do you see ways to improve the layout, framing details or materials used and suggest changes to the architect or homeowners to save time and money?
Hey Matt awesome Video once again great info and I was just thinking about this for the past week and boom your video pops up thank you
Good stuff matt
Your passion for your career is nonetheless inspiring. I'm in the restaurant business but frequently I wish I was in a construction business. I can only imagine what you'll become in years to come. I'm sure many people inspire your work ethic!
I have been deep in both restaurants and construction. They are not all too different. It takes strength, hard work, teamwork and some smarts
You don't want to be in construction
I'm sure it's a tough business. Just like the saying when you hate someone, buy them a restaurant.
@@komaru20 I think everyone would say the same about whatever business they ate in
@@jeffshackleford3152 haha yes. Nothing is easy for sure, especially since and after the damn pandemic. We probably haven't even seen the worst yet.
Hey Matt just one suggestion more to houzz pro then to you. They should come up with a one house fee for someone who wants to try it like your old sponsor had. Great job on the explanation.
Matt do you think its fair that in order to become a contractor in California, you now need to be an indentured servant for a contractor for 4 years first, and THEN you can take the contractors test?
Good afternoon sir Just got the LLC looking for work if you have any in Florida you are sales contractor
Why didn’t you add up roof sq ft? Roof work is the hardest part of the build.
Lots of great info in this video. In South Dakota we don't get nearly in depth in the bidding process as this, however this is great to see and learn how other areas look at bidding jobs. Thanks Matt!
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Watch out for builders bid shopping it waste a lot of your time. After bidding 5 jobs and not getting any work I told the builder no more bidding till we got a job. He stopped giving us plans. Our bids were competitive.
Rick, I was hoping this video would turn to this. A bunch of people giving out advice in the comments as well.
You're 100% right, a lot of builders price shop with unknown subcontractors to give it to their main subcontractor, this helps keep pricing accurate.. It also wastes your time a lot!
If free estimates is on you card your truck u can't really complain can you?
RFP and Estimates are two different things.
"I want a wrap around patio cover, pavers leading up to the driveway and a new front door!" - Estimate would be ball-parking, $60K! If you're in the right ball-park, and you're not playing football.. you can then get into detailed proposal.
RFP is a detailed, line item breakdown of pricing in a proposal format. That's why I like to talk about pricing and budgets first, get the awkward question out of the way and get closer to "Can we work together?".. If you think it's $100K and I think it's $200K.. we will never meet where we're both content.
Great video! Covers so much!
Fr33 st00f pl0x
Great video Matt 👍 very informative. Thank you have a great day
That 6500 includes all employment costs ( workman's comp, payroll taxes, etc)?
Also with material volatility, do you include markup as well?
Most builders now give you their price and they won’t budge on anything. It’s like they prefer bad work where I am. Or they refuse to sign contracts, try to force you to evade taxes half way through the job etc etc
What is your cost increase for wall heights 9 to 10, 10 to 11, etc
how about a video on payroll ?
These are my favorite type of videos.
What area of California are you located
Good video. However, that proposal on Houzz is garbage! Lawyers would have field day if a project ever went south and you get dragged into a lawsuit.
My contract is 12 pages that allows us to execute work. That is just a Proposal / Estimate, means we agreed on the price and scope. With better terms and conditions it could be used, as mentioned that usage in the video was very brief..
@@MattBangsWood ok good. Here in California everyone gets sued for any reason. You must have the triple AAAs on your side (attorney, accountant, agents (insurance)), and all must vet your contacts. That typically means contacts are about 20 pages of written BS. If anyone ever writes a 1 page contact/estimate/proposal and calls himself a licensed contractor, they are very stupid and won't last long in CA, no matter how many "thumps up" "likes" or "positive reviews" they get on these platforms.
Sorry for hating on you Matt youre an okay guy
How do I find a good framing contractor?
Plus on those tracts once you do a few you'll start flying thru them...alot of them are the same just reversed or 3 and 2 beds...whatever the first one eats up you make it up on others 2 fold
Thanks for the content Matt
do you charge the tax?
Very good UA-cam. Would be beneficial for home owner to watch also.
Awesome video 👍
Wow, great tutorial!
Matt bangs his wood sent ne
LOL.
Are you a General Contractor or just a framer
General B; we do turnkey builds but at the same time subcontract big framing with our in-house crew.
Matt, I don’t build houses, I build computers systems for a living. Yet the basic fundamentals that you outline are pretty much the same as we use in developing our quotes. I guess somethings are pretty universal. Great video.
How often do you include the material in the bid? Would you look at the plans and write down all the lumber, fasteners, etc. you will need and send a spreadsheet requesting a quote to the lumber yard then mark it up 15%?
How do you calculate the types and amounts of screws, nails, metal connecting hardware and glues/sealants needed to build the house?
Litterally anything
Literally*
Thank you very much sir for your great idea!!!
How do I work for you I live in southern New Brunswick!?
great job 👏
Do you get leads on Houzz pro what does it cost proposal and estimates
Be Shure to read the foot notes on the beginning of the plans for instance a old friend of mine framed a bunch of homes in Long Beach that had 3/4" laster seal on the second and third floors and went to a
Condo project and on the second floor it had 1.5" of laster seal witch required double bottom palting and special attachment to the floor, it didn't happen,
Engineering to fix was way over the top now , had to block between the studs, hdrs All to low drywall all had to be cut down, probably a lot more I'm leaving out,
All could have been avoided by reading the notes, on that Job one weekend he had a heart attack and died at 47 years old.
Ya one job can destroy you in the industry.
great video but LOL'd at using an untitled/unsaved notepad doc to input data in the same video you're spruiking advanced software solutions;) I realise this is probably just for the the video demonstration but still...
It's tough doing a demonstration and keeping everything on the same page. Would need to bounce around, or use the "notes" system built into Houzz.
For clear demonstration though, having the ability to pull it up and show it, then hide it was key.
Thanks you ! Very interesting information .
Matt, does House Pro have the California mechanic’s lean on its program?
I will never do a giveaway that is announced via Telegram.. Don't look / listen / feed into the spam comments.
To answer your question, they do not, but would be a nice thing to have included.
Fuking awesome
Have you ever got to a point that your burnt out finding jobs and seem that your employees are starting to not get things done in a timing matter anymore?
Burnout is big in this industry..
I always try to change things up.. We're going from a big custom to small cottages, then off to big multi-family.
Keeps it exciting. I also bring new tools to work like candy, so it's always something new.
Wow ! Wow ! I’m jealous!!
Ty
Excellent! Very informative and explained superbly - HOUZZ PRO is Awesome!
Great class room 👏 Blessings 🙏
Helpful. Thanks.
so 40 dollars an hour you pay to ur crew how about the greenhorns ?
Thanks!
Matt you must be speaking about suitcase contractors that don't have their own crews.
You are building mostly off of concrete. Here in Wisconsin we almost always have full basements with alot of walkout so you basically are adding another floor to frame
Most contractors here are paper contractors, yes. I've never built anything with a basement, so that's a whole different world for me!
How do you factor that in?
where do you add your profit on top of that labor as the business owner
Bravo, Matt!!!
what is you hourly rate if a builder wants to hire your company by the hour ? or ask to borrow some of your employees how much would you charge by hour? and do you make money by doing that?
Current is $85/h & $95/h..
You’ll make money doing it, but it has to be tracked down to the hour every day.
You forgot income tax? That's state & federal?
15-30% of that $5,000, $750 to $1,500 off, unless you're good with expenses.
Unfortunately, most framing isn't calculated with taxes in mind. If you told a builder you needed to add 15% to it for taxes, they'd laugh.
Income taxes that you pay? Assuming that you make $250K that's before income tax?
You're only paying taxes on the net profit, which would be that $250K.. On $250K profit you'd pay around $40-50K in taxes.
Or, you buy a reach lift or another piece of equipment your business could use and not give your money to Uncle Sam. Thus, reinvesting in your company, which all should do..
GOAT
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I have now watched a number of your videos. First, your methods for setting trusses is dangerously stupid. I does not matter how many blocks you set in the ridge, without opposing diagonal braces on the top chords, without bracing on the bottom chords, without strong backs on the gable ends, the who,e system is subject to failure. I rode a set of trusses to the ground because a guy like you decided to ignore industry standards for the safe erection of roof trusses. Not even a tag line when you are flying them in with a crane, as I said dangerously stupid.
Next, unless your workman's compensation rates in California are 10% of the labor costs of the job, your men can not adequately covered in the event of an accident. How about your Fica payments. These monies are your are your responsibilities as a contractor/employer, unless you are treating the men working for you as subcontractors, which in my humble opinion unconscionable. You want to be boss, then be boss.
One final thought, a construction site is no p,ace for tennis shoes. You want to go to the beach go to the beach, if your are going to work then wear the proper foot wear. Mark, an old carpenter that applied the same excellent standard of work whether it was a 1000 sq. Ft. House or a 15,0000 sq. Ft mansion
Mark,
We brace off gable ends before anyone is up top working in the roof system, 45 years we've been in the area building and we've never had a truss system gone down, so you've got me beat there. I've tag-lined every set of trusses minus say the last two homes, because they were small enough that it wasn't an issue. If there was ANY bit of wind on either days, we'd be tag-lined in a hurry.
I'm in California, workman's compensation rates are higher than almost any other state. Every single person that steps on-site with us is fully insured and covered 100% in the case of accident. Want to know who 10-99's and treats people as a subcontractor? Almost all of my local competition. We help our employees get into retirement accounts, build wealth rather than live paycheck to paycheck. I can guarantee our guys are not only covered better, but treated better as well.
Lastly, I'll take the hit on Vans, that's been said a few times. In this video I say that the quality doesn't change on 1,000SF to 10,000SF.. From a builder's perspective, the desired scope changes from "Just get it done fast" to "Let's make this clean". If you somehow misinterpreted that, I apologize.
I personally buy the IRS a new Honda Civic every year, the business is even more. So if I can ask, don't talk to me as if I'm some tract rat working for cash.
Matt, a young carpenter that tries to bring up the industry as a whole but still gets lovely comments like this.
Whoa. WTF type of comment is that. ???
Why???
Happy Friday, right?
A classic old school vs. new school debate. I see both sides. Learning framing in 1999 to 2008(from 1980's dudes)..boots were kinda a requirement. Work happened in pouring rain, inches of snow,etc. If a lift was not around we could easily carry some trusses up ladders Matt. Mark I feel your pain from injury and those ways which forged us.
Good video