Rupert Spira | Bernardo Kastrup: Are psychedelic experiences legit?

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  • @kathrynburgess7836
    @kathrynburgess7836 8 годин тому +7

    I have been so deeply connected at times.
    And the trees around me were dancing in the breeze and laughing because I could see them in a completely connected way ❤
    It was utter magic and utter love ❤️😊

  • @tezzwk
    @tezzwk 19 годин тому +14

    Bernardo described my NDE experience when my brain ceased functioning due to a myocardial infarction, a cardiac arrest. I was clinically dead for about 10 minutes, I'm told. Space and time, as well as the'self', didn't exist. 'I', the awareness, knew that 'I' was home. I, the self, was pissed off at being resuscitated!!!

    • @Puuws
      @Puuws 10 годин тому +2

      thats why it will always be temporay until its time and it happens naturally. It might give you a glimpse of reality but it teaches you nothing about how to realise it permently, its not integrated. You will have to leave but it might become a motivation to look for it in sustainling ways

    • @RogerioLupoArteCientifica
      @RogerioLupoArteCientifica 5 годин тому

      @@tezzwk my perspective on that is that you were not resuscitated. We’re all dead right now. We die all the time and keep waking up thinking we’re still alive. Then we recreate the whole world again with only a few different details. We’re in the kingdom of heaven right now. We’ve been here all along. That’s what it means to say “this is all an illusion”. We can see everything with different eyes and this is heaven. Nirvana is Samsara. The world is not an illusion, only our interpretation of it is.

    • @carolinebielby5924
      @carolinebielby5924 32 хвилини тому

      @@RogerioLupoArteCientifica How are we dead already , I really need to understand that cause I fear death x

    • @Smeegheed1963
      @Smeegheed1963 3 хвилини тому

      @@RogerioLupoArteCientifica Wow, that's very interesting. In my experience, I can't honestly deny that take on the situation.

  • @jimsomers7182
    @jimsomers7182 9 годин тому +10

    The LSD experiences that I had were profoundly metaphysical/parapsychological. Back in 1971 I experienced the energy field that gives rise to the time space continuum. It was a total nervous system overload. But I was facinated and continued to take the drug to try to understand what it did to me. The experiences were intangible to this reality. I had no vocabulary to describe them with. What I experienced is far more real and transcends what can be experienced through the five sences of perception. It was explained to me that what I experienced was at least slightly distorted because it was drug induced. And that nature would not have given those experiences to me because I was not ready for them and because I did not stabilize them. The human nervous systen is the only one that will support unbounded awareness. Cultivating the activation of the part of the human central nervous system that gives rise to a higher state of consciousness and stabilizing it, takes self purification. The practice of "Yoga", for our purposes, means re-unification. Re-unification with what? With that Divine energy field which gives rise to the entire time space continuum and all of conscious life within it. We are all looking for a short cut. I'm sorry, but it is done by natural means only. Accept this and don't be concerned with when you get there, just be content with being on the right path. It's happening all over the world.

    • @Ed-xv4sy
      @Ed-xv4sy 4 години тому

      would you recommend micro-dosing LSD? i am not going to take anything fully, i like micro dosing psilocybin wondering about LSD

    • @dbrousey
      @dbrousey 4 години тому

      wow, thank you for sharing. I too on both LSD and mushrooms have seen and felt the energy field behind our "physical" time dimension, and with it a deep sense of knowing this is all a sophisticated spiritual hologram that seems to reflect the way we are (projection). There are no shortcuts indeed, the pill few want to swallow.

    • @InsectElfMachines
      @InsectElfMachines 3 години тому

      @@Ed-xv4sy N,N DMT is by far the most amazing astonishing thing in the universe. 3 hits and you’ll get a full breakthrough. Reality is completely replaced

    • @Smeegheed1963
      @Smeegheed1963 58 хвилин тому

      ​@Ed-xv4sy It's way too difficult to try to microdose lsd. Ok, you could start with 1/8 of a square tab but usually we don't know the strength of that tab! I've found that out the hard way.

  • @rawrisimo
    @rawrisimo 2 години тому +2

    The only time I did LSD it felt as if I could see things for what they were. If felt like being sober in a way, as if the regular state of the mind was the twisted version. Nevertheless it was very impressive, almost scary.

  • @helenelabrecque1317
    @helenelabrecque1317 13 годин тому +4

    My first experience with "pure" LSD in 1967 (i was 19) , It was fantastic when effects were gone, my first reaction was
    "but this is a normal state of the.mind". I became instantly illuminated.🙏

  • @Mistical1982
    @Mistical1982 3 години тому +1

    I know that personal feeling, as I felt it in my first few psychedelic experiences. I described it as “home”. Like I’d forgotten who I was and, like you said, remembering. It was a beautiful feeling - free of insecurities.

  • @stuartharper1193
    @stuartharper1193 2 години тому +1

    Each state of mind we have is just a different perspective on the same thing, reality. Reality is difficult to pin down and the more perspectives you have on it, the better chance you will have of getting a handle on it. If there is a purpose to life, I believe it is probably, to understand reality and our place in it.

  • @engelbertus1406
    @engelbertus1406 2 години тому +1

    my past years have been about recognizing and stepping out of the illusion of separateness. Psychedelics helped me as a reference point to recognize how separateness can be experienced, and unexperienced.
    But as I started integrating these references in everyday life, my psychedelic experiences have become less and less mythical or about concepts like ego death, to the point that it is not present anymore.
    I drink Ayahuasca and I am still in the present moment, connected to what is and nothing enters which suggests there is more than just that.
    Whereas in the past I was having these transcendent experiences, when I am in this state now, the medicine offers me a slightly different internal interface of doing more detail work. This kind of work is a mixture of body work, relaxation exercises, dance, and reviewing what matters to me in this period of my life and the people Im sharing it with.
    From this evolution I learned that the mythical part of psychedelics aren’t a static trait that remains forever.
    When properly recognized for what the mythical feeling is and how it relates to separateness, and how this separateness has entered your system through culture and upbringing, integrating it - the learning curve and traits of the experience seem to change as dynamically all way along.
    I share this as an encouragement to keep looking past concepts or labels we give to these medicines, it always process and as you agree to process, so will the experiences.

  • @Thomas.Hacker
    @Thomas.Hacker 9 годин тому +3

    Or when we get into the flow when we're doing sport, we naturally try to bring ourselves into coherent states because we need it for our mental balance. - it's completely natural and completely normal... So what right the hell do you have to keep trying to stop people from doing this? Of course, under certain circumstances there is a right to look out for one another, it's logical, but don't hit people and judge them, force them to undergo therapy. For me, people need to be informed about this, empowered to know that we can use something to help ourselves, but before that, for me, there are enough approaches without taking anything! Just taking this route and then removing everything from the body that we don't absolutely need is OK. A little too much of certain substances can backfire and we end up in an unhealthy state, and our environment and surroundings may also have a problem with us. If I want to see the latter in this way, I also recognize that if we want to recognize this as part of our problem, we can educate people and make things better. Up to now, it has been my experience that because of the deceitful and distorted view of these things, people have not been able to clearly see what is happening and what needs to be done, which is why everything seems so chaotic and disorganized. So let's just establish this and accept this knowledge! I have been working with this for a long time, teaching people to consume consciously and also that it is often not even necessary to take anything. I have found that only then can I and my fellow human beings get along with each other and vibrate harmoniously, because we can see and understand each other - it doesn't matter whether someone takes something or not, in enlightened circles it no longer plays a major role. We look out for each other, but first of all for ourselves. Only this attitude, which I understand, works. If we do not accept it, if we deal with it incorrectly, we destroy ourselves, families, groups and communities break up, and society collapses as a result!

  • @jasonandfiona
    @jasonandfiona 13 годин тому +1

    “ the I behind the me”, I’ve never heard it put so simply but yes, I know exactly what you mean! Bernardo and Rupert are two of my favorites for sure.

  • @Graybeard_
    @Graybeard_ 54 хвилини тому

    While I will never promote the use of any drugs to anyone, having taken mushrooms and acid dozens of times, I can say that my sense of self and my time in the physical world that I inhabit was life altering and amazing as a result of experimenting with these drugs. Looking back as far as my childhood, I'm not sure I ever held a fear death. But as a result of these experiences, I fairly quickly arrived at a place where I saw life as an adventure, a series of experiences. Even in the context of tragic experiences my self has always stepped out to a third person perspective remaining pain free and observant while other aspects of me went through a traditional grieving process with a profound sense of loss. Maybe I am just naturally this way, I don't know. But through my psychedelic experiences, doors were thrown open that remain open today. I feel like I was rewired in ways that have been very useful and helpful to me throughout my life.

  • @Stegosaurus12345
    @Stegosaurus12345 5 годин тому +1

    Yes they are legit and can give even paranormal experiences, but they can also lead to delusion.

    • @ShivohamGPS
      @ShivohamGPS 2 години тому

      @@Stegosaurus12345 it all depends on your karmic maturity and specially your intention , your purpose for going through that experience, if it’s just curiosity and enjoyment then I agree it leads to delusion but if done properly and with the intention of knowing your innermost being then it’s transformative for sure. 🙏🏻🕉️

  • @mulen-x8u
    @mulen-x8u 11 годин тому +1

    It seems to me the experience that is induced the drug is legitimate for ego or narcissistic person because it's almost a mystical experience look like a trans of shamans, Samadhi of great yogis, ecstasy of Sufies or Christian mystics. The mystical experience is part of spiritual transformation, the becoming of the new being, but not any kind of simulative pleasure.

    • @MrJamesdryable
      @MrJamesdryable 3 години тому

      I found the guy who's never done psychedelics.

  • @VeljaPopov
    @VeljaPopov 5 годин тому

    What I'm finding out is that these experiences are just another product of our thoughts. I'm in this way influenced by the teaching of J. an U.G. Krishnamurti. They personally, al least so they say, had these mystical experiences naturally but dismissed them as just another activity of thought. They came to what they call, at least U.G., natural state. Where our perceptions of reality are not distorted by the constant activity of our thoughts, and mind then becomes silent and can operate at it's full capacity and see the reality for what it actually is. But according to them that means that we just live our daily lives as natural human beings but at our full capacity without any illusions of our thoughts. I then think that when we die it's our ego construct that dies and we are just this awareness behind our thoughts, but there is no way for us to experience anything as us that is our ego, because there is no more experiencer having an experience. What that would mean is that actually this physical reality is all we have for us, and it's not really important at all if there's anything after we die, because it's only the ego that dies and actually it doesn't even exist. So all this talk about this or that nde or psychedelic or mystical experience is still just a product of our knowledge and thoughts. When the thought stops there's even no more "us" to experience anything.

  • @rafdominguez7627
    @rafdominguez7627 20 годин тому +1

    greetings! honest question here, no offense meant: what is meant here by Legit?

    • @Smeegheed1963
      @Smeegheed1963 19 годин тому +2

      I think some people suggest that psychedelic experiences are just a mere drug action on the brain and as such have no meaning other than just a kind of substance induced malfunction. I think the question is whether these experiences are a valid realisation of an actuality rather than the brain delusions caused by a drug. On other words, are they legitimate? Having been way, way out(in) there, many times, I lean heavily towards the legitimacy😊

    • @gaussdog
      @gaussdog 19 годин тому +1

      Bernardo, can you expand upon the molecular nomenclature you used, the number and dosage at the experiences, and which measured dosage you experienced a breakthrough?

    • @FilipinaVegana
      @FilipinaVegana 17 годин тому

      Superficially, Bernardo Kastrup SEEMS to be promulgating the most ancient spiritual teaching of Advaita Vedanta (as found in the Upanishadic texts of India) but due to reasons I won't go into at length here, his understanding is rather flawed.
      If one carefully listens to any of his monologues or interview videos, it is obvious (at least it is obvious to those who are truly enlightened) that he regularly confuses and conflates discrete consciousness (as emerging from the neural networks of animals) and UNIVERSAL Consciousness (which is the all-pervasive, eternal ground of all being, more appositely termed "The Tao", "Brahman" or "Infinite Awareness").
      He also believes in (limited) freedom of will, which is, of course, ludicrous, and his understanding of suffering is truly infantile, which is unfortunate, since the eradication of suffering is the goal of life.
      In order to PROPERLY understand the distinction between the two aforementioned categories of consciousness, you are welcome to email me for a copy of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity", which are the most authoritative and accurate precepts extant. My address is on my UA-cam homepage.
      However, my main criticism of Kastrup is not with his metaphysics, it is, rather, his METAETHICS. He is, objectively speaking, afflicted with a demonic mentality, as demonstrated with his support of all things contrary to Dharma (the law, and societal duties), such as egalitarianism, feminism, homosexuality, and socialism.
      In a recent interview, for example, Bernie displayed abject ignorance when discussing the topic of animal consumption. Hopefully, he will one day realize how incredibly hypocritical he is in this regard, and become a compassionate VEGAN. 🌱
      After all, to criticize Bernardo for his teachings being only, let's say, ninety percent accurate, would be silly, since, compared with almost every other person who has ever lived, his philosophical understanding is fairly sound. Yet, what is the point of being even TOTALLY correct about metaphysics, when one's metaethics and normative ethics is fundamentally flawed?
      Furthermore, Bernado has admitted that he has struggled with mental health issues for several decades. I would suggest he flee to the loving arms of an ACTUAL spiritual master in order to learn Dharma (as well, of course, correct his flawed metaphysics).
      Peace!
      P.S. It seems Bernie Boy has BLOCKED at least one of my UA-cam accounts, so if you are reading this, you are indeed fortunate. ;)

    • @rafdominguez7627
      @rafdominguez7627 15 годин тому +1

      @@Smeegheed1963 Agree!!!!

    • @rafdominguez7627
      @rafdominguez7627 14 годин тому +1

      @@gaussdog hi, i came across this info in Dr Kastrup’s book More than allegory- chapters 8-11😊🙏🏽

  • @stulee5314
    @stulee5314 11 годин тому +1

    I feel these points are valid at the moment, as so many people are chasing a peak experience through psychedelic use. I’m an absolute fan of the medicine, realised a long time ago that it’s a tool. ❤

    • @ShivohamGPS
      @ShivohamGPS 2 години тому

      Correct, a tool for self discovery.

  • @johnstarrett7754
    @johnstarrett7754 3 години тому

    Psychedelics just change the chemical parameters of your brain.

  • @stulee5314
    @stulee5314 11 годин тому +2

    I feel these points are valid at the moment, as so many people are chasing a peak experience through psychedelic use. I’m an absolute fan of the medicine, realised a long time ago that it’s a tool. ❤