Its a well-known secret in the watch industry. There are watches out there with serial numbers identical to the originals. Only Ziarex has the real deal, and thats no secret.
Long ago, my Rolex Daytona was stolen during a break-in at my home. I received some insurance money for it but rather than purchase a new one, I invested those funds. The idea of parking 20k in a watch no longer appealed to me. I still LOVE the look of the Daytona so I bought a super clone and have had it for 6 years. It still looks good and works well. No one can tell the difference. If it breaks, I'll throw it away but until then, I'll continue to enjoy it. And enjoy watching my investments grow (thank you Mr. Bezos).
Agreed, it's easy when you know it's a fake, on its own, in normal light, no magnification? And you cannot say NO gen Omega has not perfectly aligned indices, just like you can't say no Submariner has a misaligned rehaut or an S19 serial number.
it is 2024 and the way they make the Fake ones is incredibly closed to the real one, so much so that you will not be able to tell unless you are an expert or if you gave an original to compare.
Hi guys, I’ve re-uploaded this video. I removed it after videos like this were being deleted. I’m now convinced it wasn’t UA-cam or a brand, but rather a troll attacking popular videos. Commercial channels like Watchfinder haven’t removed any of their videos like this, so I shouldn’t need to either. If UA-cam try to remove this, I’ll be filing a strongly worded complaint! I’d love it if you watched at least 4mins of the video and gave it a like - together we can stick it to the UA-cam gremlins! Cheers, Adrian
Right, but why would you buy a fake Omega in the first place? Why wouldn't you get a genuine dive watch 'tribute' from an interesting microbrand instead?
I had a fake omega first. 4 seconds fast per day. Fantastic, and within spec for a metas chronometer. For 500 I was chuffed. However, my real smp300 gets off by 1 second about every 3 days despite my working around powerful magnets daily that have affected ever watch I've owned prior. The movement is where that extra money goes That's what you're paying for.
The mental gymnastics expressed within this video in favor of one omega over the other omega are truly jaw-dropping. The amount of emotional expression contained herein is primarily against a watch instead of for a watch. One gets the impression the video was made for the express purpose of belittling one seemingly identical watch rather than praising the other. This badly weighted emotional release began with the cardstock packaging. Yes, the box. I personally have never seen anyone wear a watch box, perhaps watch snobs hold watch box shows - LIKE THIS ONE - in convention halls on 5th Avenue in New York city. I wouldn't know.
Enjoyed your take-down of a fake Seamaster. They are so cleverly done - but not clever enough ! The real thing is a dream of a watch. Congratulations Adrian on the 150k - well deserved.
as a owner of a rep no time to die watch. Have to say, Seeing the real one in person.... I can safely say my watch looks pretty much the same. yes it isn't as accurate and needs to be charged up far more often but it's the same watch. Only thing i thought was worth it for the original was to buy the real straps for my fake as they just feel and look higher quality. Also the rep box is absolutely insane considering its less than 100usd
Unless you are a watch fanatic, nobody cares about the quality of movement etc nobody cares if it will lose 3 seconds a day or 0.4 for a genuine version. If you like the look of it and it’s going to cost a fraction of the price, why not get a replica. Ultimately watches are jewellery so looks is the most important thing
@@gazzer92 well it was last year there was a big Australian UA-cam channel that out of nowhere got deleted for showing some replica watches and other channels got videos deleted. I don't know if it has changed now, but haven't heard anything dramatic. I know it's a fine line, but you could argue that a popular german brand like Steinhart makes a lot of Rolex look a like, but they don't get sued or banned. Amazon also sells plenty of Rolex/ Omega rip offs , so I think the watch community was shocked they got targeted , they just love and discuss watches.
Actually that is the nice thing about Omega featuring mainly display casebacks these days: it makes it extraordinarily easy to spot a fake. This movement isn't a clone of the 8800. It is just a Chinese clone of an ETA 2824 with a faux decorated plate sitting on top. And, while well done, is still fake. The "escapement" and full bridge that sit on top are totally fake and inoperable. This is an older one that doesn't even have the mainspring retention screw on the lever, though, the newer ones do. Regardless, in either case, you can still see the real escapement underneath, as it is just a standard Swiss Lever, NOT a co-axial. Very few replica houses actually replicate an in house movement (I believe there is a Rolex Daytona super clone that does). The majority simply use a Chinese manufactured ETA clone, and I am aware of no one who has ever cloned an Omega co-axial escapement, so you can always see the standard Swiss lever under the faux bridge.
That poor person doing the movement finishing on the plates on the fake watch deserves better. They are wasting their talent polishing up turd movements.
nah the fact that he's blatantly re-uploaded it makes me think he's gotten assurances from UA-cam. Word on the street is, it was a fake-watch distributor that was copyright striking all the videos that show you how to spot a fake. Perhaps someone real at UA-cam has gotten involved and turned the algorithm off.
You can still buy a fake and work towards a gen IMO. But to each his own - I totally understand why people would hate the idea of getting a fake. Also some people prefer a nice collection of 6-10 watches as opposed to a single gen 🤷🏻♂️ I have a gen Tissot le locle which people buy fakes of which I find a little funny. But hey I don’t look down on it.
I'll be honest.. I thought it looked pretty damn close. The only thing that stood out to me at a glance was the date off centre. But I'm no watch collector
you don't need a real one to compare... The bezel play is absolutely unacceptable by Omega standards. The winding sounds like sand paper... not even a high grade ETA...
@@brianhsin678: 100%. Fake owners know unless you take it off and hand it to someone wearing the real version of your fake watch, 99% can never tell. That’s what fake owners count on and those that have the real thing have grown not to care. They know what they have is real, and that’s good enough for them.
@@Rockin_Rossthe one in this video.... you can tell just by sitting next to a person wearing it. Any of my watch buddies can spot something is off. For the ones you fooled I guess congrats? You have a piece of shit that doesn't even have the craftmenship of a seiko presage.... just so you can steal a brand name.
@@brianhsin678 who cares it’s just a watch dude it’s not that deep. There’s no craftsmanship they’re just mass produced pieces of metal people wear on their wrist to tell the time. Some people just like the designs
@@mikeeli2286 Having owned everything from $50 to well over 10 k... there is a difference, it just shows that you have never owned a real timepiece. Homage brands make exact case/dial/bracelet etc, the only thing missing is the OMEGA on the dial. I wish people would own up to the fact that they like how that name brand makes them feel, and how others may perceive them. Furthermore, these workers in the factories making these replicas aren't exactly paid fair wages, work in an environment with proper safety standards or get and benefit or health insurance,... but who cares right ? As long as you can get you can get your FOMEGA, FOLEX.
I don't have any interest in fake watches, so I didn't bother watching this the first time it went up. Glad I caught it this time though, actually super educational!
There is a positive side to fakes that you didn’t mention………..if you tell your ‘other half’ that the new watch you just bought yourself is a fake……..they won’t ask too many awkward questions 🤪 My wife is ALWAYS amazed at the quality of my ‘knock offs’ (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) 😂😂😂
I have to do this with my mum whenever I buy new sneakers or jackets, I just say they're replicas from China. Avoids the reaction I'd normally get otherwise
If anyone is curious why he is reuploading it, I am pretty sure it is because "Just one more watch" had his channel deleted ( temporarily ) for showing fake watches, now that he was unbanned it is obviously safe to show fakes so thats why this video was reuploaded.
I have owned Omegas for more than 20 years and even worked with them for 15 years, trust me its super hard to tell the difference, its really a super pro who can spot them
@@Trig672How the hack you can't see the finish and the lack of the screw on the replica movement? The dial is laser shaped while on replica they are made like cheap cuts, the lume is crap on fake as well the quality is not there for 300,400 replicas yet..
A great video. Completely agree, always purchase the real deal, you are only fooling yourself wearing a fake. Most people don’t care what watch you wear. you wear a watch based in your own tastes and style 👍
@@alexanderbogander2671 Check his pinned comment. Certain watch channels have had issues with "people" reporting innocent and legitimate videos as promoting counterfeit products or some such nonsense. So, to be safe, he took this particular video down.
Thank god for these fakes, I have 2 real Rolex submariners as part of my collection but I wear a fake one daily because crime is a thing. I wear the real ones to events and such and fake ones everywhere else
6:51 I don't agree with fully destroying it: something useful could still be made out of it. Here's my idea: why not give it to some watch restorer to take apart on video and show us what exactly goes inside one of these illegal replicas and then give the watch to an artisan watch maker to turn it into an alternative watch by re-using the parts, something that would look nothing like an Omega.
Excellent video on the morals of buying a fake watch, at the end of the day you only are fooling yourself , as you say work hard and towards the real thing, success wont only bring you watches but lots of other nice things to show off the fruits of your labour.
I came across a 2020 Seamaster Diver 300 from a private seller. Watch was pre-owned and at reasonable price. What struck me as odd was that the seller claimed it was purchased from an AD but the warranty card wasn’t dated by them.
I think these watches are so expensive, that if anything is off, you just walk away. I would bet nearly nothing compares the the pit in one’s stomach, once you’ve been ripped off. Walk on by….
My mom owns 4 Omega Watches. She bought them from legitimate authorized dealers/jewelry stores, but not direct from Omega stores. Only one has the date on the warranty card. 🤷🏼♀️. We bought matching watches one time, and hers didn’t have the date on the warranty card, but mine did. Chances are that it was an AD that didn’t put the date on the card and it was real. But if you don’t feel comfortable without the date input I completely understand. Just sharing my experience.
Wear the fake watch as a beater and real one for professional settings and events. You would be surprised how good the fake one is at taking abuse and still keeping time in the long run.
@Nigel Molesworth people who make comments like these have no self confidence and need a 'justification' for owning a replica. God forbid, they get caught wearing a replica and what is everyone going to think? At the end of the day, 99% of the people will not know whether the watch is a real or a fake. You should be buying any watch for yourself, unless you have some inferiority complex issues. These watches can be had for $5k US and I own one along with many other watches. My comment was actually coming from a practical use scenario and my own personal experience.
The reason why I bought a fake GMT Master wasn’t because of the money, it was because it is impossible to get one and I’m not going to pay double to some sucker who got lucky. But it is true that it doesn’t give you anywhere close to the feeling that you have for the real thing and if you want rolex because of the quality, I don’t think there is a fake out there that will make you satisfied.
There is a good chance, this video will be left alone. I don’t think it’s a simple algorithm issue, I believe there’s something more malicious happening. I’m glad you guys in the watch community are trying to get to the bottom of this. We support you.
Absolutely support your view on FAKE watches. And I am so happy you said this so forcefully. We are all watch lovers. And we all love watches from different price points. The fake is only ever a pale shadow of the real thing. So enjoy the reality of a watch, whichever price point it lives in. And we all need that special unobtainable or distant thing, to give us something to aim for. Thanks for your good work.
Had my black dial for over a month now. Seriously haven't let it out of my sight.it was supposed to be a going out watch,but just love it so much. Have caught the bug,big time.next up will be the Aikon (Maurice lacroix) and possibly the Oris diver 65. The tissue PRX 80 auto looks amazing but just a tad too big.if they make a 36",then count me in. Great show as always Adrian 👍🏻
I kind of agree with your point about fakes watches , , but , , some people will never afford real/authentic watches , and the fakes are getting better , and owning a fake of something does show some kind of/level of admiration and appreciation of the real product , , , DON'T DESTROY THE WATCHES , , , send them to me , i will definitely appreciate the style of the fakes and i enjoy wearing a different watch every day , even if you want something for them , if i can afford them . Thanks , Jason
Thank you for your video mate, Very informative especially the detailed photos of the movement and the comparison with the original side by side. With your help I found out that a local freelance resseller try to sell a fake seamaster.
At my area, the price of fake omega (around usd60) seamaster is almost double of fake rolex submariner (around usd35) shown so many fake rolex were produced
I have a real smp 300 and a really good (VSF) fake planet ocean 600 gmt and through the display case back the fake looks better, despite the rhodium plating on the real one. I swear some of the plates (like the bridge) are finished better on the fake. But the fake isn't coaxial and does 4 seconds per day or so. The real silicon hairspring coaxial Omega smp300 has consistently been 1 second off over 2-3 days. I regulate it by position every few days to either gain or lose that second and it takes at least 12 hrs in it's most slow or fast position to get even a second. Seriously, overnight crown up (-1) or dial down (+1) are the only overnight positions that even change the rate its regulated so well. I pull the crown maybe twice a month tops due to this ease of regulation and low variation. That's spring drive accuracy and I work around magnets daily that have messed up the accuracy of every watch I've owned prior except for the real coaxial Omega. Considering fakes, the case and branding costs 500 bucks. Considering real, the movement is where the other 5k is. And it's absolutely worth it. That being said, even at 3 days per second it's still less accurate than my casios.
As an owner of a real new SMP300. These ‘clones’ are scary close to real thing in terms of appearance. In the end, you’re really just lying to yourself. My watches are a part of me and when I look at them, it reminds me how far I’ve come from my first Casio G-Shock when I was 8.
Tbh I wear my g shock more than my Rolex. I do agree with your point on only lying to yourself. Most people will know instantly if your wearing a fake anyway as they will have a good idea if you can actually afford to strap a 5k, 10k or 20k plus watch on your wrist.
@@Weakeyedominant id call you mad if you wore your Rolex more than your G-Shock. Unless you're a filthy rich bastard, wearing a Rolex all the time is pretty stupid as you'll put a lot of wear and tear on it. where as a G-Shock is a work-mans watch. I wear my CasiOak literally every day of my life at work.
@@Matt-bg5wg it is supposed to be a tool not something locked away in a safe. A know someone that has a gold Daytona and he wears that everyday. It's his normal watch that he wears to work or the bar or golf. If you owned a Bentley you wouldn't keep it in the garage and drive a Toyota just to keep the mileage down. The only people that would baby their watch like that are people that can barely afford it and are hoping to sell it. Rolex are not delicate watches that need to be treated with kid gloves. That's just my opinion.
Damn it Adrian! Now I want a Seamaster in addition to the Aqua Terra. I'm gonna need a second job now. Thanks a lot... Also, be Careful this might get taken down by UA-cam. They've been doing stupid stuff like that to others. Love your content, keep it up.
Great Video....Yeah you are absolutely right....even if you got a super clone that looks almost like the GEN it does not feel the same as you know yourself that you are wearing a fake.
It’s almost a year after you made this video. I can give you the reason I bought a fake. I’ve been waiting for a real Daytona for about 5 years. I love the look of it. And I’m not gonna pay someone almost double or triple MSRP. SO ….I bought an expensive fake. I love it. And I never ever desire to part with my money to Rolex again. (I have a real Batman, sub, and yacht master) F Rolex. They have made it so impossible to get a Daytona, that I no longer wish to ever give their dealers money again
One of the best videos I have seen comparing a fake to the real thing. The Chinese are just not capable of same level of craftsmanship as the Swiss. Please do a pressure text on the fake, I have heard others say that you don't want to take the fakes underwater :)
Ironically many very large Swiss “luxury” brands have their components made in China, and still stamp their watches “Swiss made”. I’d love to go uncover like James Bond to expose what’s going on.
I read a comment from someone mentioning that when a replica factory has a waiting list, its a sign that their products are superior to the originals. In this case, Swissarex is that factory.
I think you’re missing the point here. When you pay £400 for a ‘Omega’ no one is expecting it to be the same as the real thing. You may be offended by the Replica market but many are not, and are happy to wear a decent replica of their dream watch knowing that they are never going to be able to afford the real thing.
So, You are very right, BUT only for your self!!! And if you push us to think like you do - THAT is not right! And yes, you have the full right to keep thinking in that way... That is your human right! Peace!
@@BarkandJack I somewhat agree. Over the years I have built a small collection of genuine watches, including a nice rare collectable Rolex Datejust, and a few somewhat lesser watches that are even more rare. I have a very limited pension income but I love watches, so after paying the expensive brands much more than what they deserve, it now payback time. I love the feel of certain models, just for fun and really enjoy my replicas for that reason. Additionally, it's always lots of fun playing games with my friends and watching their expression when I tell them the prices and telling them the watches are replicas.
When i first originally watched the vid, my curiosity leads me to a rabbit hole of repilca forums. I can't believe it they fully replicated an omega movement. And I'm glad to report that it's mostly a modified chinese ETA 2824 made to look like an omega cal. 8800. So it'll beat at 4Hz unlike Omega's 3.5Hz. Even for the chinese replica makers, the co-axial escapement and the silicon hairspring don't make sense from an economic scale standpoint. From what i gathered, they only fully replicated some Rolex movement such as 3235 (with the same power reserve which is insane), a couple of Panerai, AP, and Patek calibres (usually ones without difficult complications. So be careful when you guys are shopping watches from these brands. TL;DR : no, you're not getting the same movement with this replica and you can forget about anti magnetism and the co-axial escapement.
Yep. The Omegas are all just decorated ETA clones. Recently a factory managed to copy the Rolex GMT movement to such an extent, that it is able to accept genuine Rolex parts as replacements. Absolutely bonkers.
I love your S&M (yes I am dyslexic! ) Homage with the coffee, and I am bing watching your videos, as i only discovered your channel from Ben's Watch Club, and only discovered him ten days ago, thanks to you two guys as you are rekindling my passion for time peices. I also agree with you on Fake watches as it's feeding massive criminal empires, but it also says a lot about the character of the people who knowingly where them.
К сожалению,или нет,но потделка"" всегда будут. Картины,часы,вещи и.т.п.Сейчас это действительно империя).В 2023 году они вышли на новый уровень,а через лет десять не известно какие будут часы.
You'll never stop the replica industry. It's too much of a demand. Let people enjoy what they enjoy without judgement and no it does not fund criminal gangs. That's a myth. My first Omega was a replica when I was a kid then I bought a quartz not I own a ceramic auto!
Do a pressure test and destroy them. The hydraulic channel did that with a few watches and put them in a watet pressure chamber to Subjected them to around 300 m depth of water pressure and destroyed the watches
I found one that says constellation on front but on back it says stainless steel water resistant. All others I saw had a picture on the back. Assuming it’s a fake. Some of the diamonds have come out and are missing. Found it at an antique store.
You should absolutely buy a superclone fake. But only for the following reasons: It is easier to write off a fake than it is to take a loss with reselling a real watch, deal with Watchfinder and others lowballing you, waste time with tire kickers, etc. Every single person who has the intent on buying a watch, I tell them to get a superclone first, see if they truly like it, and then get the real one. I made the mistake of getting a real watch first when I could afford one, but didn't like it as much as I thought I would. For my next one, an Omega, I got a superclone first, and then the real one. The superclone, I will wear as a beater when engaging in activities that may incur damage to a watch that is worn such as mountain climbing, or for when I go anywhere with a potential risk of losing it, such as on vacation or going to London. It is stupid to just have a blanket statement of saying you should not buy a fake. A superclone fake will always have it's use.
Instead of going the nuclear/flashy route that ppl suggest to destroy the watch, you could have a video with no speaking where you slowly take it apart. Would have the same vibe as those watchmaker restoration videos. And then maybe destroy the parts.
Before its gone test it to see what it's really like someone else has suggested water resistance I think see how it copes with a powerful magnet and then shock resistance with a drop test, getting progressively higher.
There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals
Lies fake scam site!
Iscrotum
Its a well-known secret in the watch industry. There are watches out there with serial numbers identical to the originals. Only Ziarex has the real deal, and thats no secret.
How much this?
We in the country of Iran even wish for a good hour because our times are good
ZiaRex has relations with the Italian mafia, it was in the news. From Italy, they ship them all over Europe and the UK.
I was skeptical at first, but they pass every security check.
Sold a few watches to dealers here in the UK as originals
China: "thank you my friend for your quality control and to spot our flaws. We will improve our products" xD
The engineering is actually done in the US, China is just used for the manufacturing.
Long ago, my Rolex Daytona was stolen during a break-in at my home. I received some insurance money for it but rather than purchase a new one, I invested those funds. The idea of parking 20k in a watch no longer appealed to me. I still LOVE the look of the Daytona so I bought a super clone and have had it for 6 years. It still looks good and works well. No one can tell the difference. If it breaks, I'll throw it away but until then, I'll continue to enjoy it. And enjoy watching my investments grow (thank you Mr. Bezos).
The biggest problem with these vids on fakes, is they rely on side by side comparisons, which most of us can't do
God bless you biden
Totally agree . And even then, when you are are looking at this knowing its fake is a totally different thing
Agreed, it's easy when you know it's a fake, on its own, in normal light, no magnification?
And you cannot say NO gen Omega has not perfectly aligned indices, just like you can't say no Submariner has a misaligned rehaut or an S19 serial number.
it is 2024 and the way they make the Fake ones is incredibly closed to the real one, so much so that you will not be able to tell unless you are an expert or if you gave an original to compare.
Hi guys, I’ve re-uploaded this video. I removed it after videos like this were being deleted. I’m now convinced it wasn’t UA-cam or a brand, but rather a troll attacking popular videos. Commercial channels like Watchfinder haven’t removed any of their videos like this, so I shouldn’t need to either. If UA-cam try to remove this, I’ll be filing a strongly worded complaint!
I’d love it if you watched at least 4mins of the video and gave it a like - together we can stick it to the UA-cam gremlins!
Cheers,
Adrian
So this is a reposted [?] video, with a new issue date? That’s why the B&J coffee date is 5/16/21. Oh, BTW coffee was a great cup!
Haha. I forgot to remove that coffee. Stupid me!
Why feature fake watches at all? I don’t get it. “Bad Press” is still attention for fakes. Honest question.
@@BradyPuryear I think the videos like this definitely helps, at least, the people like me who likes to collect watches and buy pre-owned.
Thank you for doing this video. I am currently debating between buying an Omega from an AD vs Chrono 24
The physical differences between the real and fake are pretty small. The $ differences are obscene.
So well put. Exactly.
We’re not paying for just the watches, we’re paying for millions in R/D and labor costs in a first world country.
Right, but why would you buy a fake Omega in the first place? Why wouldn't you get a genuine dive watch 'tribute' from an interesting microbrand instead?
@@bbarone Correct. Fake watches are a travesty and should never be supported. There are so many interesting options for watches now
I had a fake omega first. 4 seconds fast per day. Fantastic, and within spec for a metas chronometer. For 500 I was chuffed. However, my real smp300 gets off by 1 second about every 3 days despite my working around powerful magnets daily that have affected ever watch I've owned prior. The movement is where that extra money goes
That's what you're paying for.
Adrian: Coffee is launching on the 16th of May
Me: Did I accidentally travel back in time?
The mental gymnastics expressed within this video in favor of one omega over the other omega are truly jaw-dropping. The amount of emotional expression contained herein is primarily against a watch instead of for a watch. One gets the impression the video was made for the express purpose of belittling one seemingly identical watch rather than praising the other. This badly weighted emotional release began with the cardstock packaging. Yes, the box. I personally have never seen anyone wear a watch box, perhaps watch snobs hold watch box shows - LIKE THIS ONE - in convention halls on 5th Avenue in New York city. I wouldn't know.
Rigth. I also think Fakes can serve a good purpose of calling some brands out about their pricing. It can clearly be lower
30-40% with decent revenue.
One is an Omega, one isn’t
Might as well just use counterfeit money as well, what’s the difference, right? It looks the same
Enjoyed your take-down of a fake Seamaster. They are so cleverly done - but not clever enough ! The real thing is a dream of a watch. Congratulations Adrian on the 150k - well deserved.
Thanks so much mate. 🙌🏻
For those who cannot afford $20,000.00 or more for a watch.
as a owner of a rep no time to die watch. Have to say, Seeing the real one in person.... I can safely say my watch looks pretty much the same. yes it isn't as accurate and needs to be charged up far more often but it's the same watch. Only thing i thought was worth it for the original was to buy the real straps for my fake as they just feel and look higher quality. Also the rep box is absolutely insane considering its less than 100usd
Want a omega now and rolex before I'm 60 . But I'll end up having neither. (Just keeping it real) 💯
Fakes might be my only option.
Adrian you have my support great initiative against this dilemma
Thanks mate. 🙌🏻
Unless you are a watch fanatic, nobody cares about the quality of movement etc nobody cares if it will lose 3 seconds a day or 0.4 for a genuine version. If you like the look of it and it’s going to cost a fraction of the price, why not get a replica. Ultimately watches are jewellery so looks is the most important thing
Adrian you are living on the edge, playing with fire 🔥 after what happened to other watch channels lately. We are proud of you, we stand by you 100 %.
What happened to them
@@gazzer92 well it was last year there was a big Australian UA-cam channel that out of nowhere got deleted for showing some replica watches and other channels got videos deleted. I don't know if it has changed now, but haven't heard anything dramatic. I know it's a fine line, but you could argue that a popular german brand like Steinhart makes a lot of Rolex look a like, but they don't get sued or banned. Amazon also sells plenty of Rolex/ Omega rip offs , so I think the watch community was shocked they got targeted , they just love and discuss watches.
Actually that is the nice thing about Omega featuring mainly display casebacks these days: it makes it extraordinarily easy to spot a fake. This movement isn't a clone of the 8800. It is just a Chinese clone of an ETA 2824 with a faux decorated plate sitting on top. And, while well done, is still fake. The "escapement" and full bridge that sit on top are totally fake and inoperable. This is an older one that doesn't even have the mainspring retention screw on the lever, though, the newer ones do. Regardless, in either case, you can still see the real escapement underneath, as it is just a standard Swiss Lever, NOT a co-axial. Very few replica houses actually replicate an in house movement (I believe there is a Rolex Daytona super clone that does). The majority simply use a Chinese manufactured ETA clone, and I am aware of no one who has ever cloned an Omega co-axial escapement, so you can always see the standard Swiss lever under the faux bridge.
Send it to TPG for consignment, you’ll probably never see it again.
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If anyone is wondering about the box, it's actually for a ladies watch!
That poor person doing the movement finishing on the plates on the fake watch deserves better.
They are wasting their talent polishing up turd movements.
It's actually just a clone of an ETA 2824, hardly a 'turd movement'
Beware of the POS movement. 😂
Saw this in a blog.
Buying what I can afford and working towards what I want. Brilliant.
Are you taking bets as to how long this video stays up ?😂
Just one less watch video
here we go again
Can't help thinking he is pushing youtube can we?
@@ThinkingAndInkingLtd Russian roulette for UA-cam watch channels.
nah the fact that he's blatantly re-uploaded it makes me think he's gotten assurances from UA-cam. Word on the street is, it was a fake-watch distributor that was copyright striking all the videos that show you how to spot a fake. Perhaps someone real at UA-cam has gotten involved and turned the algorithm off.
You can still buy a fake and work towards a gen IMO. But to each his own - I totally understand why people would hate the idea of getting a fake.
Also some people prefer a nice collection of 6-10 watches as opposed to a single gen 🤷🏻♂️
I have a gen Tissot le locle which people buy fakes of which I find a little funny. But hey I don’t look down on it.
I'll be honest.. I thought it looked pretty damn close. The only thing that stood out to me at a glance was the date off centre. But I'm no watch collector
you don't need a real one to compare... The bezel play is absolutely unacceptable by Omega standards. The winding sounds like sand paper... not even a high grade ETA...
@@brianhsin678: 100%. Fake owners know unless you take it off and hand it to someone wearing the real version of your fake watch, 99% can never tell.
That’s what fake owners count on and those that have the real thing have grown not to care. They know what they have is real, and that’s good enough for them.
@@Rockin_Rossthe one in this video.... you can tell just by sitting next to a person wearing it. Any of my watch buddies can spot something is off. For the ones you fooled I guess congrats? You have a piece of shit that doesn't even have the craftmenship of a seiko presage.... just so you can steal a brand name.
@@brianhsin678 who cares it’s just a watch dude it’s not that deep. There’s no craftsmanship they’re just mass produced pieces of metal people wear on their wrist to tell the time. Some people just like the designs
@@mikeeli2286 Having owned everything from $50 to well over 10 k... there is a difference, it just shows that you have never owned a real timepiece. Homage brands make exact case/dial/bracelet etc, the only thing missing is the OMEGA on the dial. I wish people would own up to the fact that they like how that name brand makes them feel, and how others may perceive them. Furthermore, these workers in the factories making these replicas aren't exactly paid fair wages, work in an environment with proper safety standards or get and benefit or health insurance,... but who cares right ? As long as you can get you can get your FOMEGA, FOLEX.
I don't have any interest in fake watches, so I didn't bother watching this the first time it went up. Glad I caught it this time though, actually super educational!
That transition into the coffee plug is too smooth hahaha!!
Congratulations on the 150k!
Thanks mate 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
There is a positive side to fakes that you didn’t mention………..if you tell your ‘other half’ that the new watch you just bought yourself is a fake……..they won’t ask too many awkward questions 🤪
My wife is ALWAYS amazed at the quality of my ‘knock offs’ (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) 😂😂😂
I have to do this with my mum whenever I buy new sneakers or jackets, I just say they're replicas from China. Avoids the reaction I'd normally get otherwise
Good to know I'm not the only one, I'm supposedly on my 5th "Fake Watch" now lol
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@@hodgesmarna5031 it's the most uncomfortable thing ever having family come up to you and asking a bunch of question about anything expensive
If anyone is curious why he is reuploading it, I am pretty sure it is because "Just one more watch" had his channel deleted ( temporarily ) for showing fake watches, now that he was unbanned it is obviously safe to show fakes so thats why this video was reuploaded.
Exactly. None of the “commercial” channels like WatchFinder have had their videos removed. So I’m sure it’s just a troll reporting these videos.
This is what I was wondering. Glad I don't have to worry about this channel having future issues.
I have owned Omegas for more than 20 years and even worked with them for 15 years, trust me its super hard to tell the difference, its really a super pro who can spot them
i know, this giyu is a dick in that he doesnt have the best replica
@@domualex i don't know anything about watches and I couldn't tell what was different 😂 except the noise part
@@JuanVasquez-ph8be if you buy a top replica and spend another 100 to service it..will last 10 years
Unless you’re carrying an eye glass couldn’t tell the difference. These watches are made in the thousands so must be a demand.
@@Trig672How the hack you can't see the finish and the lack of the screw on the replica movement? The dial is laser shaped while on replica they are made like cheap cuts, the lume is crap on fake as well the quality is not there for 300,400 replicas yet..
I bought one with white dial/ black bezel directly from Omega’s boutique. It is amazing love the watch!!!!
How much?
Rolex make their watches much easier to replicate than others! No transparent caseback all of it done by machine etc!
Is it me, I couldn't tell if I saw someone wearing the fake!! Looks the same to me
A great video. Completely agree, always purchase the real deal, you are only fooling yourself wearing a fake. Most people don’t care what watch you wear. you wear a watch based in your own tastes and style 👍
Send it to the hydraulic press channel and have them test the water resistance.
Glad this is back up! Outstanding video! Cheers!
Thanks mate. Hopefully it can stay up.
Why was it taken down? Or why the re-upload?
@@alexanderbogander2671 Check his pinned comment. Certain watch channels have had issues with "people" reporting innocent and legitimate videos as promoting counterfeit products or some such nonsense. So, to be safe, he took this particular video down.
Thank god for these fakes, I have 2 real Rolex submariners as part of my collection but I wear a fake one daily because crime is a thing. I wear the real ones to events and such and fake ones everywhere else
6:51 I don't agree with fully destroying it: something useful could still be made out of it.
Here's my idea: why not give it to some watch restorer to take apart on video and show us what exactly goes inside one of these illegal replicas and then give the watch to an artisan watch maker to turn it into an alternative watch by re-using the parts, something that would look nothing like an Omega.
Drop it into molten steel. Recreate the ending of Terminator 2.
Few ideas:
"Will it blend?"
Test just how water resistant they are
Drop tests
Multi-ton hydraulic press
Excellent video on the morals of buying a fake watch, at the end of the day you only are fooling yourself , as you say work hard and towards the real thing, success wont only bring you watches but lots of other nice things to show off the fruits of your labour.
I came across a 2020 Seamaster Diver 300 from a private seller. Watch was pre-owned and at reasonable price. What struck me as odd was that the seller claimed it was purchased from an AD but the warranty card wasn’t dated by them.
I think these watches are so expensive, that if anything is off, you just walk away. I would bet nearly nothing compares the the pit in one’s stomach, once you’ve been ripped off. Walk on by….
My mom owns 4 Omega Watches. She bought them from legitimate authorized dealers/jewelry stores, but not direct from Omega stores. Only one has the date on the warranty card. 🤷🏼♀️.
We bought matching watches one time, and hers didn’t have the date on the warranty card, but mine did.
Chances are that it was an AD that didn’t put the date on the card and it was real. But if you don’t feel comfortable without the date input I completely understand. Just sharing my experience.
I don’t drink coffee anymore, but that segway into selling yours made wish I did!
Great vid!
"A deja vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something"
Omega actually has used the smaller box with the ribbon, but I've only seen it with women's models.
Wear the fake watch as a beater and real one for professional settings and events. You would be surprised how good the fake one is at taking abuse and still keeping time in the long run.
@Nigel Molesworth people who make comments like these have no self confidence and need a 'justification' for owning a replica. God forbid, they get caught wearing a replica and what is everyone going to think? At the end of the day, 99% of the people will not know whether the watch is a real or a fake. You should be buying any watch for yourself, unless you have some inferiority complex issues. These watches can be had for $5k US and I own one along with many other watches. My comment was actually coming from a practical use scenario and my own personal experience.
@@su3095 also not like anyone cares if you're wearing a replica or genuine 😂
Keep up the great work. This is a really informative video. Hope it stays up!
You’re dropping videos like it’s nothing right now. Love your style!
Facts: lots of celebrities wear fake watches to avoid being stolen, but then again if the watch is Omega which cost around 5-8K it's okay I guest.
Omega uses that box with the red bow as a gift box for womens watches
The reason why I bought a fake GMT Master wasn’t because of the money, it was because it is impossible to get one and I’m not going to pay double to some sucker who got lucky. But it is true that it doesn’t give you anywhere close to the feeling that you have for the real thing and if you want rolex because of the quality, I don’t think there is a fake out there that will make you satisfied.
There is a good chance, this video will be left alone. I don’t think it’s a simple algorithm issue, I believe there’s something more malicious happening. I’m glad you guys in the watch community are trying to get to the bottom of this. We support you.
Absolutely support your view on FAKE watches. And I am so happy you said this so forcefully. We are all watch lovers. And we all love watches from different price points. The fake is only ever a pale shadow of the real thing. So enjoy the reality of a watch, whichever price point it lives in.
And we all need that special unobtainable or distant thing, to give us something to aim for. Thanks for your good work.
That box is the OMEGA ladies' box, not just a completely random fake design
Best way to tell is the adjustment screw on the balance. Fakes don't have them...aside from the fact that the fake is God awful in all respects.
Had my black dial for over a month now.
Seriously haven't let it out of my sight.it was supposed to be a going out watch,but just love it so much.
Have caught the bug,big time.next up will be the Aikon (Maurice lacroix) and possibly the Oris diver 65.
The tissue PRX 80 auto looks amazing but just a tad too big.if they make a 36",then count me in.
Great show as always Adrian 👍🏻
Hi, did you feel your seamaster bezel a bit like loose? Sort of like have room to play a little bit?
I kind of agree with your point about fakes watches , , but , , some people will never afford real/authentic watches , and the fakes are getting better , and owning a fake of something does show some kind of/level of admiration and appreciation of the real product , , , DON'T DESTROY THE WATCHES , , , send them to me , i will definitely appreciate the style of the fakes and i enjoy wearing a different watch every day , even if you want something for them , if i can afford them . Thanks , Jason
Maybe something involving the element known as fire could be an interesting way to bring about the demise of the fake Seamaster?
Brave to put this up
Why?
@@t28mcd Another well known youtuber had his account suspended for comparing real vs fake watches.
@@JayTee73 by any chance, isn't this youtuber from Australia? 😀
Some have a few video removed like The Time Teller.🧐
Says everything about UA-cam that a video exposing counterfeiting places you at risk of getting your channel shut down.
This is so much closer to journalism than most sponsered watch reviews, and yet which vids get the dread hand of the censor? Nuts.....
Thank you for your video mate, Very informative especially the detailed photos of the movement and the comparison with the original side by side. With your help I found out that a local freelance resseller try to sell a fake seamaster.
Correct I would rather prerfer buy other original watch which is in my budget and I love instead of buying a fake one .
At my area, the price of fake omega (around usd60) seamaster is almost double of fake rolex submariner (around usd35) shown so many fake rolex were produced
I have a real smp 300 and a really good (VSF) fake planet ocean 600 gmt and through the display case back the fake looks better, despite the rhodium plating on the real one. I swear some of the plates (like the bridge) are finished better on the fake. But the fake isn't coaxial and does 4 seconds per day or so. The real silicon hairspring coaxial Omega smp300 has consistently been 1 second off over 2-3 days. I regulate it by position every few days to either gain or lose that second and it takes at least 12 hrs in it's most slow or fast position to get even a second. Seriously, overnight crown up (-1) or dial down (+1) are the only overnight positions that even change the rate its regulated so well. I pull the crown maybe twice a month tops due to this ease of regulation and low variation. That's spring drive accuracy and I work around magnets daily that have messed up the accuracy of every watch I've owned prior except for the real coaxial Omega. Considering fakes, the case and branding costs 500 bucks. Considering real, the movement is where the other 5k is. And it's absolutely worth it. That being said, even at 3 days per second it's still less accurate than my casios.
As an owner of a real new SMP300. These ‘clones’ are scary close to real thing in terms of appearance. In the end, you’re really just lying to yourself. My watches are a part of me and when I look at them, it reminds me how far I’ve come from my first Casio G-Shock when I was 8.
That's deep, nice
Tbh I wear my g shock more than my Rolex. I do agree with your point on only lying to yourself. Most people will know instantly if your wearing a fake anyway as they will have a good idea if you can actually afford to strap a 5k, 10k or 20k plus watch on your wrist.
@@Weakeyedominant id call you mad if you wore your Rolex more than your G-Shock. Unless you're a filthy rich bastard, wearing a Rolex all the time is pretty stupid as you'll put a lot of wear and tear on it. where as a G-Shock is a work-mans watch. I wear my CasiOak literally every day of my life at work.
@@Matt-bg5wg it is supposed to be a tool not something locked away in a safe. A know someone that has a gold Daytona and he wears that everyday. It's his normal watch that he wears to work or the bar or golf. If you owned a Bentley you wouldn't keep it in the garage and drive a Toyota just to keep the mileage down. The only people that would baby their watch like that are people that can barely afford it and are hoping to sell it. Rolex are not delicate watches that need to be treated with kid gloves. That's just my opinion.
Damn it Adrian! Now I want a Seamaster in addition to the Aqua Terra. I'm gonna need a second job now. Thanks a lot...
Also, be Careful this might get taken down by UA-cam. They've been doing stupid stuff like that to others. Love your content, keep it up.
You should look at the vsf scg omegas they are well made and don't charge you 5k for 1ks worth of watch and 4k of marketing
Ive heard that Rolex tried to shut down Swissarex, but its a testament to their quality that theyre still going strong.
SCAM!
I agree, if you can't buy the original then buy something that you can afford, fake watches are simply wrong on so many levels.
When you say super clone, it better be Swiss made. Only gussl can achieve this level of perfection.
Fake people wear fake watches. A fake is a constant reminder of something you will never have and therefore never be.
Buying the original also funds ciminal gangs.
God bless you man showing the fake from
The real!
Great Video....Yeah you are absolutely right....even if you got a super clone that looks almost like the GEN it does not feel the same as you know yourself that you are wearing a fake.
Fair comment I reckon. I can’t afford the Omega so I purchased a Ball Hydrocarbon Ceramic. Happy with that too.
I will totally agree with you. Fake stinks ! Better save some money and buy what you dream of .
This is so scary and crazy how ,,good,, the fakes are nowadays 😞
Please. Stop wasting time on fake watches. It’s not relevant for us watch geeks. You are doing a great job analyzing the watch industry and watches.
Hi Adrian, Omega used to use these boxes in the past (maybe they still do). So this is not a direct giveaway
Omega boxes used to be red. The one Adrian has is just shit.
I think it was or still is used to ladies watches.
Def not for the seamaster 300m
That box the fake came in is an actual holiday Omega box tho
It’s almost a year after you made this video. I can give you the reason I bought a fake. I’ve been waiting for a real Daytona for about 5 years. I love the look of it. And I’m not gonna pay someone almost double or triple MSRP. SO ….I bought an expensive fake. I love it. And I never ever desire to part with my money to Rolex again. (I have a real Batman, sub, and yacht master) F Rolex. They have made it so impossible to get a Daytona, that I no longer wish to ever give their dealers money again
Pretty much why I went with omega.
Very happy owner of a blue two tone SMP300
Where did you get the fake?
At first glance and without the real to compare, the fake is good looking.
I find it truly amazing how most of your videos start so basic but then turn rather quickly into deep fundamental topics
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for not saying O-MEE-GA, like your fellow countrymen!
@Nigel Molesworth Well said, Molesworth! Pip pip!
Swissarexs dedication to accuracy and detail sets them apart from the competition.
SCAM!
One of the best videos I have seen comparing a fake to the real thing. The Chinese are just not capable of same level of craftsmanship as the Swiss. Please do a pressure text on the fake, I have heard others say that you don't want to take the fakes underwater :)
Ironically many very large Swiss “luxury” brands have their components made in China, and still stamp their watches “Swiss made”. I’d love to go uncover like James Bond to expose what’s going on.
I read a comment from someone mentioning that when a replica factory has a waiting list, its a sign that their products are superior to the originals. In this case, Swissarex is that factory.
Fake scam site!
I think you’re missing the point here. When you pay £400 for a ‘Omega’ no one is expecting it to be the same as the real thing. You may be offended by the Replica market but many are not, and are happy to wear a decent replica of their dream watch knowing that they are never going to be able to afford the real thing.
So, You are very right, BUT only for your self!!! And if you push us to think like you do - THAT is not right!
And yes, you have the full right to keep thinking in that way... That is your human right!
Peace!
100%. Generally I stay away from sharing an “influential” message. But with this I do feel there’s a clear morally right and wrong answer.
@@BarkandJack I somewhat agree. Over the years I have built a small collection of genuine watches, including a nice rare collectable Rolex Datejust, and a few somewhat lesser watches that are even more rare. I have a very limited pension income but I love watches, so after paying the expensive brands much more than what they deserve, it now payback time. I love the feel of certain models, just for fun and really enjoy my replicas for that reason. Additionally, it's always lots of fun playing games with my friends and watching their expression when I tell them the prices and telling them the watches are replicas.
When i first originally watched the vid, my curiosity leads me to a rabbit hole of repilca forums. I can't believe it they fully replicated an omega movement. And I'm glad to report that it's mostly a modified chinese ETA 2824 made to look like an omega cal. 8800. So it'll beat at 4Hz unlike Omega's 3.5Hz. Even for the chinese replica makers, the co-axial escapement and the silicon hairspring don't make sense from an economic scale standpoint. From what i gathered, they only fully replicated some Rolex movement such as 3235 (with the same power reserve which is insane), a couple of Panerai, AP, and Patek calibres (usually ones without difficult complications. So be careful when you guys are shopping watches from these brands.
TL;DR : no, you're not getting the same movement with this replica and you can forget about anti magnetism and the co-axial escapement.
Yep. The Omegas are all just decorated ETA clones. Recently a factory managed to copy the Rolex GMT movement to such an extent, that it is able to accept genuine Rolex parts as replacements. Absolutely bonkers.
This video saved me. Thank you.
I love your S&M (yes I am dyslexic! ) Homage with the coffee, and I am bing watching your videos, as i only discovered your channel from Ben's Watch Club, and only discovered him ten days ago, thanks to you two guys as you are rekindling my passion for time peices. I also agree with you on Fake watches as it's feeding massive criminal empires, but it also says a lot about the character of the people who knowingly where them.
К сожалению,или нет,но потделка"" всегда будут. Картины,часы,вещи и.т.п.Сейчас это действительно империя).В 2023 году они вышли на новый уровень,а через лет десять не известно какие будут часы.
You'll never stop the replica industry. It's too much of a demand. Let people enjoy what they enjoy without judgement and no it does not fund criminal gangs. That's a myth. My first Omega was a replica when I was a kid then I bought a quartz not I own a ceramic auto!
Sorry, your first Omega was NOT a replica - it just wasn't an Omega.
“You can tell when they are side by side” reaches for my 7k watch, it’s not there!
Do a pressure test and destroy them. The hydraulic channel did that with a few watches and put them in a watet pressure chamber to Subjected them to around 300 m depth of water pressure and destroyed the watches
Absolutely... Beyond the Press. Great fun.
I found one that says constellation on front but on back it says stainless steel water resistant. All others I saw had a picture on the back. Assuming it’s a fake. Some of the diamonds have come out and are missing. Found it at an antique store.
You should absolutely buy a superclone fake. But only for the following reasons: It is easier to write off a fake than it is to take a loss with reselling a real watch, deal with Watchfinder and others lowballing you, waste time with tire kickers, etc. Every single person who has the intent on buying a watch, I tell them to get a superclone first, see if they truly like it, and then get the real one. I made the mistake of getting a real watch first when I could afford one, but didn't like it as much as I thought I would. For my next one, an Omega, I got a superclone first, and then the real one. The superclone, I will wear as a beater when engaging in activities that may incur damage to a watch that is worn such as mountain climbing, or for when I go anywhere with a potential risk of losing it, such as on vacation or going to London. It is stupid to just have a blanket statement of saying you should not buy a fake. A superclone fake will always have it's use.
Instead of going the nuclear/flashy route that ppl suggest to destroy the watch, you could have a video with no speaking where you slowly take it apart. Would have the same vibe as those watchmaker restoration videos. And then maybe destroy the parts.
Before its gone test it to see what it's really like someone else has suggested water resistance I think see how it copes with a powerful magnet and then shock resistance with a drop test, getting progressively higher.
destroy the watches by stress testing them with heat, shocks and shit, stuff that the real thing would survive
Recreate the Spectre scene and use it as a grenade and blow it up
@ min 1:57 : look at the date.
'nuff said.