@@jakeferreira1211 Not this Red Sox fan. Fenway should have been razed years ago. A ballpark should have been built on the water in South Boston. Nothing can get done is Boston with the current political state of things. (D)
Really starting to think you are trolling. The Angels don't have an attendance problem. The stadium is old, the team has been BAD for 10 years, but the fans STILL show up. Blame ownership for not renovating and not trying to win.
And I don't see what's wrong with the stadium. It's big, accessible, nice parking lot, transit station behind the lot. Yeah, it's old, but it is still very functional.
I think Toronto will do everything possible to keep the Rogers Center functioning as the Blue Jays stadium. Its worth mentioning that the location is iconic; right next to a symbol of Toronto in the CN tower
Your Roger Center outlook is way off !! The Blue Jays and Canada probably will never have the FUTURE COST of a new stadium unless they start putting money aside RIGHT NOW !!!! SO YOU don't like the look of Roger Center , BOO-HOO , WTF do you think you are !!! We love the LOOK AND FEEL of the SKYDOME !!!! 🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁 Your just sad that when CANADIANS build a NORTH AMERICAN stadium WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WITH A ROOF !!! I suggest that you think about the future cost of STADIUMS IN THE FUTURE !!!! 👎🏿👎🏽👎🏻✌🏼🖖🍁🌻💛💙🇺🇦
Progressive Field has exposed steel beams THROUGHOUT the entire stadium, yet this guy keeps going on and on about a handful of exposed beams in the third deck of right field.
The whole idea behind Target Field is that the Twins wanted to play Baseball outside. Open air, no roof, bot even retractable. They wanted real grass stains on their uniforms.
A retractable roof still allows you to play outside on real grass AND allows you to play all your games. You can still get grass stains when the roof is closed for the rain and snow. T Mobile Park in Seattle has its roof open most of the time, but it saves a ton of games. Spring doesn’t even hit Minneapolis until May anyways
Angels Stadium is actually a great experience. I love how you can walk around the entire concourse and get to the seats. It's unique nowadays for it to be so open and unrestricted. One of my favorite ballparks, and I also disagree with them moving
I'm in Phoenix and so used to just being able to walk around, when I went to Petco Park I was confused as to why I couldn't go from the left field bleachers to home plate without taking some weird path of stairs and walls blocking the view of the game
@@El_Jose_22 I actually live in SD and have been to Petco at least a hundred times. And, as much as I love the park, what you just pointed out is one of my pet peeves about the park. You have to know where you are walking and if you are going to be blocked before moving lol
Rogers Centre "Skydome" is not going anywhere for 30 years, period. Rogers only paid 25 million dollars for it after a half billion taxpayers investment in building it in 1989. The fact Rogers has now invested 500 million into it, it's here to stay.
Seattle has never torn down a stadium without irreversible structural issues, Climate pledge hadn't held a big 4 sports game in 13 years before the Kraken showed up even though the stadium was built in 1960. Minnesota and Dallas on the other hand tend to replace stadiums at a higher rate and wouldn't be surprised if the Twins wants a roof and the Rangers ask for a new stadium as well.
I was surprised when the REAL Yankee Stadium (The House That Ruth Built) was demolished for the pretender that exists today. It's up there with the demolition of Penn Station in the 1960's to build Madison Square Garden as travesties to historic architecture. Twenty-five years ago, I considered Yankee Stadium there with Fenway Park and Wrigley Field as all-time icons. Maybe there were factors I didn't know about that made keeping up the old stadium impossible or impracticable but it was a loss to baseball nonetheless. I don't think we'll ever see a stadium that saw as many World Series (37) or titles (26) as Yankee Stadium. The new stadium has just 1 back in the year it opened (2009). You are gone but not forgotten.
I’ll never forgive myself for not making a trip to yankee stadium while it was still around. But to be fair I live in western part of Ohio and as a college kid back in 2008 when they stopped playing there, it just wasn’t feasible for me to get there. I still haven’t even been to the new ballpark which is still a huge error on my part as well. I agree, with all that history in it, Yankee stadium should’ve been saved somehow. Still can’t believe they moved out of it…
The old stadium had its fair share of issues. Both exposed beams and monuments in the field of play are the major examples. Historic or not, player safety comes first.
There were pretty massive structural issues that would’ve required massive amounts of money that had already been invested into it. Super sad to see but on a positive note, the old field is now a public park right outside the stadium, so anyone could walk those sacred grounds which I think makes up for it.
My home stadium, Comerica Park will be safe. It's part of Detroit's grand vision of District Detroit, which combines entertainment, new high-rises, restaurants, as well as a casino. It's a sweet vision, but it would be better if the Pistons would play better. Quick Comerica Park fact - outside of Comerica Park is a huge Tiger statue. It will not be painted until the Tigers win the World Series - It was a motivation of Mr. Illitch to get that thing painted and the kids will keep the tradition alive until the Tigers do.
Comerica sucks. The upper deck on third base side too far away from field. No shade either. If temp above 75 and sunny for day games it too hot. Should put a retractable roof on it. More shade and would eliminate rain outs in April and May.
@@mrg8581 Agreed. If you think those seats are bad, which they are, check out the lower outfield seats on either side of the water fountain on a hot August Day game - you'll get a sunburn after the 7th batter. What I like to do at any stadium regardless of sport is to buy the cheapest seat possible and chill in standing room. I love the shade, the closeness to concessions, and the view. Sometimes, the wind can get janky, so watch out for that.
@@ScottyMania313 Exactly. And even evening games aren't much better. Not with all those 6pm and 6 thirty games during the summer. I miss when Tigers played games that started at 7 or even 7 thirty.. Doesn't even get dark until almost 10 in June and July.
In no way is T-Mobile a Tweener stadium 😂 Seattle and the mariners will never build a new stadium, they’d sooner relocate . You have zero clue what you’re talking about
Kauffman Stadium SHOULDN'T be endangered but is because the asshole owner wants a downtown stadium with an entertainment district built around it that he will own as well, all on the taxpayer dime of course. The Chiefs and Royals stadium issue is combined and Jackson county Missouri resident will vote on whether to extend the current 3/8 cent sales tax to pay for Arrowhead's renovation and Kauffman's replacement. If it fails to pass one of the biggest reasons is John Sherman's insistence he get a new ballpark downtown instead of renovating a perfectly good Kauffman stadium.
Loved Kauffman stadium, rained out in 05, finally used rain checks in 2019. Saw George Brett on the field even if the team didn't play since it was a 20th anniversary celebration ( did see him play in Fenway versus Boston). In 2019 I saw Mike Trout, saw Albert Pujols pass Barry Bonds on the all-time RBI list, most importantly it's the last ballpark we went to before my dad's Parkinson's got too bad. I love going over to my parents house and watching All-Star games and the World Series I'm thinking about all the fun we had at about 15 different ballparks, a couple in the same city with Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I've been to two on my own then with friends. It's so much fun seeing a video like this and reminiscing. We saw Bob Feller at an Old-Timers Game in Florida 70 years after my great-uncle saw him for his 10th birthday at League park. Hey Depressed Ginger, Do you have a video about all the ones you visited?
I don’t get what’s wrong with marlins’s loan depot park and you always bash it. Have you been to Miami during the summer?they need this stadium to play baseball down there.
as a houstonian, Minute Maid is an awesome park and is definitely safe. everyone here loves it. it's certainly better than Globe Life. I'm sure they'll renovate to some extent in the next 10 years but i'd be shocked to see it replaced in the next 25 tbh
Target Field - It's obviously a "safe park" and I should point out that it has had numerous smaller renovations over the years. A new main scoreboard along with other smaller ones. A new bar area above the batter's eye. Seating changed in right field around the overhang. Etc etc - they have been doing tweaks almost every year it seems.
I've come to the conclusion you have ZERO idea about stadiums. Some of the "tweener" stadiums are insane especially Loan Depot, Comerica Park, And minute maid park
Cool vid @Depressed Ginger! I know this has nothing to do with the vid, but a vid on March 11 2020 or the 13 would be cool. I feel like the 11 is when the sports world shutdown and 13 was when the real world shut down.
Comerica Park is actively undergoing renovations!! (I work across the street and they have been renovating it the last month or two) They are just about complete a really nice new scoreboard and other amenities. I would say they are likely safe for now otherwise it's a really silly investment by the Tigers to renovate.
I disagree with T-Mobile Park, Nationals Park, and American Family Field’s placements on the tweener list. Those three ought to be in the safe category. American Family Field is going nowhere till at least 2050. Nationals Park just opened in 2008. It’s not even 20 years old yet. How could you put such a young stadium in the tweener category?! I get loanDepot Park, but at the same time, the Marlins have always been sub-par. I’d say ownership of the Marlins needs to be changed and then people would start coming. And by the way, you still haven’t reported on the brand new two videoboards that are being installed at American Family Field. The renovations began this offseason. There are pictures on the internet of the Brewers swapping out videoboards!
Video boards can't change the fact the stadium has an airport hanger vibe. And it's lighting is terrible. Indoor baseball stadiums are SO UGLY and un-majestic to outdoor only ballparks.
@@MrUnsolvedMystery Too true, even as a Cubs/Bears fan. I’m pretty sure that the second it’s announced if the Packers leave, the city of Green Bay is gonna erupt in riots. Nothing screams, “We don’t care about this franchise.” like not having a care about the venue.
@zardsire2012 Yeah, it's the 4th oldest stadium in mlb, and has been around since 1966. Sure it's team has been mediocre for a long while, but it does not mean Angel Stadium has no history.
I think in MLB most of the parks are safe even the ones that need to be remodeled within the next few years to a decade. I don't think there's more than 5 tweener or endangered parks in here. The ones I'd take out of tweener are mainly T-Mobile Park which definitely isn't going anywhere in the next 2 decades. Minute Maid Park, Miller Park, Great American Ballpark, Loan Depot Park, Angel Stadium, and I have no idea why you hate Chase Field so much? Chase Field is extremely beautiful, and was ahead of its time. The situations that I'm definitely looking at will be White Sox stadium which is clearly moving to downtown Chicago soon, Comerica Park which has a renovation situation, but could easily be replaced too, and Rogers Centre might get another huge renovation sooner than we think as Toronto could still be working on getting the Olympics there in the 2030s. If I had to guess, one of the Florida teams will be on the move.
Your nuts in talking that the parks have to be replaced very soon. When the owners use their own money OK. BUT KNOWING AND SEEING HOW POOR CITIES ARE IN TAKING CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS WITH SCHOOLS , ETCETERA, THE IDEA OF REPLACING THEM , SHOULD BE DROPPED
I think MLB is bringing to realize that anything with a retractable roof is only going to be desirable so long as the roof is working, and those things are hard and expensive to maintain. Without major $$$, any of the current retractable roof stadiums are likely to be on shaky ground in the next 15 or 20 years.
If the Rays DO stay in the Tampa Bay Area, they might have to extend their lease on the Trop another season at this point. New stadiums take a while to build and have construction delays all the time. They haven’t even turned dirt on a new stadium yet.
Most of these stadiums are going to around for a while. And Comerica park has had a small renovation. They did move the fences in. Just wondering if you have ever been to any of these stadiums.
@@shinichi6235I been to all 30. It's a BAD stadium. Dimly lit Airport Hanger vibes. Drunks who rather be at an American Football game tailgating in the sea of parking lots outside. Easily a bottom 10 stadium. Indoor stadiums are SO UGLY and un-majestic to outdoor only parks
Yuck. Hopefully not. Indoor stadiums are SO ugly especially that one with it's airport hanger vibe. It needs to be replaced with an outdoor park. Baseball's best ballparks are majestic outdoors only ones
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaIt has updated lighting in there now and it's a LOT better. As far as the tailgating goes, how is that a negative? That's one of the highlights lol.
Rogers was considering redeveloping the entire stadium area: tearing down Sky Dome, building a dedicated baseball park with real grass, then slicing off a portion of the land for mixed-use development to fund it. Instead they decided upon a major reno, but they may yet return to option A at some point in the future.
Minneapolis is SPECTACULAR in the summer. There's no chance the Twins ever go back indoors. The entire reason for building Target Field the way it is is to play baseball outdoors. If they *ever* felt the need to play indoors, US Bank Stadium technically is multipurpose.
T-Mobile park is in not in any danger. The park has been well maintained and is in extremely good condition. The ownership has not hinted that they are unhappy with it.
Great American ballpark is heavily underrated. Comerica I’ve never liked since replacing tiger stadium. I still think the Tigers should’ve found a way to save Tiger stadium. That stadium will always be my all time favorite ballpark. It just oozed national pastime.
I like to describe Busch as the least bad stadium. Not to be confused with the best its just there's not really anything bad to say about it. Solid park overall
contradicts himself in almost every other sentence.. "This stadium needs nothing for the next 30 years." Serious? every stadium gets renevations every 5-8 years
The sad thing about Guaranteed Rate (Comiskey 2) is that it was outdated a year after it opened. The "new" retro look of Camden Yards became the standard.
Progressive Field isnt going anywhere, it's loved by the fanbase, and every renovation has been liked. The current renovation was needed, and the park is getting new seats.
One thing that I disagree with. Renovations extend the life of ballparks. Had the extensive renevations to the original Yankee Stadium not happened in the '70s, the park probably would've been replaced and demolished sometime between 1980 and 1990, instead of 2009. Fenway and Wrigley have had a number of renovations each, and they're going to stick around for a long time to come. So pointing out all the renovations that many of these parks have had in his "tweener" or "endangered" groupings are is funny, since that's what's going to make them stick around a few decades longer.
Comerica park has received minor renovations the past couple years, it’s still a great attraction and the city backdrop will ensure the stadium withstands the test of time. Detroit won’t be moving on from this one for a very long time, all 3 of their pro sports are within 2 blocks of each other.
As a Kansas Citian, the majority of people are against the Royals moving the stadium downtown for MANY reasons. The Royals and Chiefs have both recently threatened to leave the city unless they get what they want (and we pay for it). As far as I'm concerned...let the Royals go. The chiefs have everything to lose, the Royals are a pathetic team who barely draw and barely win. They wouldn't really be missed that much
People bash Oakland but then they go to a game there and be like wow this isn’t so bad as what people make it to be ! John Fisher never invested money into the stadium or team and blocked the Raiders owner from doing so
Yeah T-Mobile is top 5 ballparks period. It ain't going anywhere. Everyone just overlooks it because Seattle is so far away from every other baseball city.
As fare as Angels Stadium is concerned, you may want to consider also the impact from the fact that a former mayor of Anaheim pleaded guilty a few months ago to federal corruption charges connected with the proposed sale of the stadium.
What is interesting about that corruption case that the mayor pleaded to accepting a briber but the guy who was giving the bribe (Angels owner Arte Moreno) suffered no consequences. The mayor agreed to sell Angel Stadium and surrounding land at a below market price
T-Mobile is beyond solid. It’s a great stadium in a great place. Lots of infrastructure and knowing Seattle, they’d rather invest in more important things than a vanity project.
I have not gone back and reread the story, so I am going by memory here. Anyway, it is my understanding that when the University of Kentucky built Kentucky Proud Park that it was designed and built with sustainability in mind. A large percentage of materials used were recycled materials. A large percentage of materials were sourced from within a certain radius. I believe that it was designed to minimize things like water use and electric power use. Etc. We should be discussing the same things about MLB stadiums. Keeping, renovating or replacing stadiums should be done with sustainability in mind. We don't hear anything about that in the above video. It is all about aesthetics, attendance, age, history, reputation, ownership situation, etc. After revenue and player and fan safety the deciding consideration should be sustainability. I say that any stadium that is in safe condition should be renovated or repurposed, not replaced, and the renovation should be done to make everything more ecologically friendly. For example, create more shaded areas and play more games during the day. If seating capacity is going to be reduced, while you are at it replace the remaining chair seats that are made of plastic or whatever it is with seats made from bamboo. Etc.
As a Jays' fan since the late 1970s, I think the renovations have been amazing. The Blue Jays obviously make the changes they needed to in order to improve the viewing experience. The ball park has a brand new feel and look to it with the new seats and configurations.
if the dbacks leave chase field you could easily gut the interior and turn it to a soccer specific stadium for an expansion mls team. chase field does have the perfect shape to do than in, it a square airplane hanger
@@ktpinnacle You don't have to win the NL west to make a playoff run. Pecota picked them to be 3rd in wins in the NL with 85 wins, that's in the playoffs.
Comerica Park isn’t going anywhere, with Ford Field next door and Little Caesars Arena a block or so away. Definitely needs renovating beyond the new Jumbotron and food court TVs.
Don't eat Rob Manfred's stupid pills when it comes to the state of Miller Park...sorry, the Pabst Palace...oops, American Family Field. There isn't a bad seat in the house, the facilities were in good shape as of the last game I attended there (in the middle of last year), and the tailgating experience is still second to none. Mark Attanasio is a cheapskate owner a tier or two above abjectly awful people like John Fisher, John Angelos, and Bob Nutting, and I suspect he's asked Rob Manfred to declare the stadium to be obsolete because he wants a shiny new stadium with more luxury boxes, an even more team-friendly lease deal, and a nearby baseball district - and if that process ends with the team moving to California or Texas or somewhere else with more taxpayer money than they know what to do with, I'm sure that's quite fine by him. That would be the only reason the stadium might be at risk of no longer hosting MLB ball...a greedy owner upset at the poor local TV revenue situation, nothing inherently wrong with the facility itself.
In my high school speech class ('87) we had to write legislation and argue for it in one assignment. Mine was on making historic stadiums national landmarks. They did that years later for real.and you're right. It and Wrigley can't be demolished as far as I know. Refurbished and converted sure. Wow, a bed and breakfast in Wrigley. I would love that :)
It may never host another MLB game after 2024, but I don’t think the Oakland Coliseum will actually get torn down for a while. It will probably sit empty and mostly unused for a decade or more.
Hey Depressed, why do think that 30 year old stadiums are outdated and should be demolished? Who's going to pay for them? Wrigley and Fenway are 100 years old, and they are my favorite parks to watch a game. They have their own personalities. I also liked Kaufman, with the fountain show in between innings. KEEP the older stadiums.
Busch Stadium is horrid for one reason: the seats all face forward not angled towards the pitcher like almost all modern stadiums. We sat like 10 rows back beside the visitors dugout and if we sat looking forward in our seats we were looking at a space 10 feet behind the second base bag. The person in front of us had to sit literally sideways to not crook their neck to watch the pitcher. So many stadiums angled the seats BEFORE Busch was designed that this is just inexcusable.
The Angels will be sold and likely stay in Anaheim there’s plenty of room to build a new stadium in the parking lot like they did with Shea Stadium. The Angels have a loyal fan base and it’s a great market.
Marlins will not be leaving Miami because of their lease. They are locked in for 30 years. They have clauses in their lease that prevents them from moving anytime soon.
if and when Progressive field gets replaced i have little to no trust that anything will be affordable and will be the only thing the Guards have spent legit money on just to charge Clevelanders more for the same product.
I laugh at most of the assertions of OBSOLETE you claim... I look differently at a stadium... it's obsolete for 1 of 2 reasons... 1. The field itself is unplayable... (see Astrodome)... 2. The stadium is unsafe for fans.... The Brewers park is showing some issues on this... but not as bad as MLB and the Brewers claim... I think MLB and the Teams are their own worst enemies... These Stadium Districts they want are actually killing them... why? They are trying to squeeze every last time from the fans nightly. Problem: They are not leaving the fans with enough money for 81 home dates.. leading to empty ball parks.. They want fans to consider the game an all-day event... for the NFL with 8/9 home dates/year and 1 game/week... that's great... for MLB.. 81 home date... The "event" gets seriously watered down by the end of April. Then, making the stadiums smaller... only gives the appearance of a sellout.. and the teams an excuse to raise ticket prices because they are fewer.. except... the more they tarp seats/take them out... more and more fans are staying home.. they are being priced out. I reckon that soon, Cities will start to see that MLB is it's owner worst enemy and stop building the baseball cathedrals... Baseball was at it's peak when most towns had their own teams and MLB was not a big draw on TV.. Well, cities will start to realize.. MLB needs them MORE than they need MLB.. and something tells me Oakland is going to become the first of many who realize this. And the bigger the city... the less the THREAT to move will phase them...
Absolutely. It is so ridiculous with the stadiums now. Rob Manfred and team owners have screwed things up. And eventually more cities will get tired of subsidized stadiums that last only 25 or 30 years without either a major renovation or replacement.
Would love it if these stadiums were known by their real names rather than their sponsors.
The only stadium that I think had a good sponser name was Miller Park. Now its name just sucks
the best stadiums are. fenway, wrigley (not sponsored by wrigley's), dodger stadium, camden...
Most of them opened up with a corporate name. Just the classic ballparks will not have corporate names attached to them.
@@zduckhunterYes, because the name was connected directly to the city. You knew where you were, just like Busch and PNC.
@@jonstefanik9400technically even Wrigley is a corporate name
This guy could make a video about baking a cake and still manage a “translucent roof” reference.😅
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@@bdoomiami1567 lol, Go Canes
He seems to be stuck on retractable roofs & natural light lol
I don't think T-Mobile park is going anywhere anytime soon
Everyone undervalues it, it’s a top 5-6 in the league
The city just put $180M into the park back in 2018... It's not going anywhere. Tweener park? Get real.
It’s a beautiful stadium. I flew through Seattle to Alaska a few years ago, planned an overnight layover to attend a game. A fantastic park, no doubt.
Plus it has a retractable roof to keep the rain out. That's a huge plus. I wish Comerica Park had one.
@@mrg8581 I live in Washington State so I know what is going on with the baseball stadium
If I'm not mistaken, Fenway Park is now a protected monument in Boston, so even if they don't play there anymore, it wouldn't be demolished.
Correct
You are not mistaken. It's over a century old at this point. Plus, Red Sox fans would riot if they tried to tear Fenway down.
@@jakeferreira1211 Not this Red Sox fan. Fenway should have been razed years ago. A ballpark should have been built on the water in South Boston.
Nothing can get done is Boston with the current political state of things. (D)
Correct
Which is really terrible because Fenway is a crap baseball park.
Really starting to think you are trolling. The Angels don't have an attendance problem. The stadium is old, the team has been BAD for 10 years, but the fans STILL show up. Blame ownership for not renovating and not trying to win.
It’s in Anaheim too🥲
Yeah they averaged 32,599 fans a game last year. That's one of the higher attendance averages in baseball.
@@scottbussey499 Exactly. I don't think this dude actually watches baseball tho.
And I don't see what's wrong with the stadium. It's big, accessible, nice parking lot, transit station behind the lot. Yeah, it's old, but it is still very functional.
It's by FAR a Dodgers market though.
T-Mobile should be in the safe category imo
Absolutely. This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Yeah t mobile park isn’t going anywhere, and it’s a great stadium
I think Toronto will do everything possible to keep the Rogers Center functioning as the Blue Jays stadium. Its worth mentioning that the location is iconic; right next to a symbol of Toronto in the CN tower
Will the new renovations for baseball include a gravel warning track,
instead of the dirt colored artificial turf?
@@daleh7733 Not sure, I think they're just keeping the artificial turf for now. Could change though
Your Roger Center outlook is way off !! The Blue Jays and Canada probably will never have the FUTURE COST of a new stadium unless they start putting money aside RIGHT NOW !!!! SO YOU don't like the look of Roger Center , BOO-HOO , WTF do you think you are !!! We love the LOOK AND FEEL of the SKYDOME !!!! 🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁🍁 Your just sad that when CANADIANS build a NORTH AMERICAN stadium WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY WITH A ROOF !!! I suggest that you think about the future cost of STADIUMS IN THE FUTURE !!!!
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@@glennstach4439 he wasnt bashing it...
Progressive Field has exposed steel beams THROUGHOUT the entire stadium, yet this guy keeps going on and on about a handful of exposed beams in the third deck of right field.
He means the steel beams where seats used to be. It looks terrible. Very sad story about that ballpark.
@@jonstefanik9400 I know exactly what he's talking about. Coors Field has the same exposed steel beams where seats use to be. The sky isn't falling.
Nothing wrong with the stadium in Seattle.
Yeah I want to work there one day as I’m a Mariners fan
It’s a great stadium and still feels new!
Same with the Rogers Centre
The whole idea behind Target Field is that the Twins wanted to play Baseball outside. Open air, no roof, bot even retractable. They wanted real grass stains on their uniforms.
They deserved and needed a nice outdoor stadium after playing in the metrodome for so long.
You're right - although I wonder if they would have gone with ETFE roofing (think US Bank Stadium) had it been more viable at the time.
Target Field isn't even 15 years old.
A retractable roof still allows you to play outside on real grass AND allows you to play all your games. You can still get grass stains when the roof is closed for the rain and snow.
T Mobile Park in Seattle has its roof open most of the time, but it saves a ton of games. Spring doesn’t even hit Minneapolis until May anyways
@@jefffinkbonner9551 Twins ownership said, Absolutely Not to a retractable roof. I would've gone for it too.
Angels Stadium is actually a great experience. I love how you can walk around the entire concourse and get to the seats. It's unique nowadays for it to be so open and unrestricted. One of my favorite ballparks, and I also disagree with them moving
I'm in Phoenix and so used to just being able to walk around, when I went to Petco Park I was confused as to why I couldn't go from the left field bleachers to home plate without taking some weird path of stairs and walls blocking the view of the game
@@El_Jose_22 I actually live in SD and have been to Petco at least a hundred times. And, as much as I love the park, what you just pointed out is one of my pet peeves about the park. You have to know where you are walking and if you are going to be blocked before moving lol
Fenway and Wirgley are two stadiums that when it's time to move to new stadiums they should both be preserved as a museum at least
Old Yankee stadium should have been as well.
Rogers Centre "Skydome" is not going anywhere for 30 years, period. Rogers only paid 25 million dollars for it after a half billion taxpayers investment in building it in 1989. The fact Rogers has now invested 500 million into it, it's here to stay.
Seattle has never torn down a stadium without irreversible structural issues, Climate pledge hadn't held a big 4 sports game in 13 years before the Kraken showed up even though the stadium was built in 1960. Minnesota and Dallas on the other hand tend to replace stadiums at a higher rate and wouldn't be surprised if the Twins wants a roof and the Rangers ask for a new stadium as well.
how do you get away with us watching the same videos you've got a talent man
The path of least resistance.
How is Minute Maid a tweener? Guy is nucking futs
I was surprised when the REAL Yankee Stadium (The House That Ruth Built) was demolished for the pretender that exists today. It's up there with the demolition of Penn Station in the 1960's to build Madison Square Garden as travesties to historic architecture. Twenty-five years ago, I considered Yankee Stadium there with Fenway Park and Wrigley Field as all-time icons. Maybe there were factors I didn't know about that made keeping up the old stadium impossible or impracticable but it was a loss to baseball nonetheless. I don't think we'll ever see a stadium that saw as many World Series (37) or titles (26) as Yankee Stadium. The new stadium has just 1 back in the year it opened (2009). You are gone but not forgotten.
I’ll never forgive myself for not making a trip to yankee stadium while it was still around. But to be fair I live in western part of Ohio and as a college kid back in 2008 when they stopped playing there, it just wasn’t feasible for me to get there. I still haven’t even been to the new ballpark which is still a huge error on my part as well. I agree, with all that history in it, Yankee stadium should’ve been saved somehow. Still can’t believe they moved out of it…
The old stadium had its fair share of issues. Both exposed beams and monuments in the field of play are the major examples. Historic or not, player safety comes first.
There were pretty massive structural issues that would’ve required massive amounts of money that had already been invested into it. Super sad to see but on a positive note, the old field is now a public park right outside the stadium, so anyone could walk those sacred grounds which I think makes up for it.
The White Sox had Comiskey Park & flushed it down the toilet for the crap stadium they’re trying to get rid of now 😓
My home stadium, Comerica Park will be safe. It's part of Detroit's grand vision of District Detroit, which combines entertainment, new high-rises, restaurants, as well as a casino. It's a sweet vision, but it would be better if the Pistons would play better.
Quick Comerica Park fact - outside of Comerica Park is a huge Tiger statue. It will not be painted until the Tigers win the World Series - It was a motivation of Mr. Illitch to get that thing painted and the kids will keep the tradition alive until the Tigers do.
Comerica sucks. The upper deck on third base side too far away from field. No shade either. If temp above 75 and sunny for day games it too hot. Should put a retractable roof on it. More shade and would eliminate rain outs in April and May.
@@mrg8581 Agreed. If you think those seats are bad, which they are, check out the lower outfield seats on either side of the water fountain on a hot August Day game - you'll get a sunburn after the 7th batter.
What I like to do at any stadium regardless of sport is to buy the cheapest seat possible and chill in standing room. I love the shade, the closeness to concessions, and the view. Sometimes, the wind can get janky, so watch out for that.
@@ScottyMania313 Exactly. And even evening games aren't much better. Not with all those 6pm and 6 thirty games during the summer. I miss when Tigers played games that started at 7 or even 7 thirty.. Doesn't even get dark until almost 10 in June and July.
@@ScottyMania313 I try get cheapest ticket possible period.
Growing up in Boston, Fenway may be around longer than any building in the city. Def safe, no need for umpire review
In no way is T-Mobile a Tweener stadium 😂 Seattle and the mariners will never build a new stadium, they’d sooner relocate . You have zero clue what you’re talking about
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about
Oakland coliseum rip 🪦
Kauffman Stadium SHOULDN'T be endangered but is because the asshole owner wants a downtown stadium with an entertainment district built around it that he will own as well, all on the taxpayer dime of course. The Chiefs and Royals stadium issue is combined and Jackson county Missouri resident will vote on whether to extend the current 3/8 cent sales tax to pay for Arrowhead's renovation and Kauffman's replacement. If it fails to pass one of the biggest reasons is John Sherman's insistence he get a new ballpark downtown instead of renovating a perfectly good Kauffman stadium.
Loved Kauffman stadium, rained out in 05, finally used rain checks in 2019. Saw George Brett on the field even if the team didn't play since it was a 20th anniversary celebration ( did see him play in Fenway versus Boston). In 2019 I saw Mike Trout, saw Albert Pujols pass Barry Bonds on the all-time RBI list, most importantly it's the last ballpark we went to before my dad's Parkinson's got too bad. I love going over to my parents house and watching All-Star games and the World Series I'm thinking about all the fun we had at about 15 different ballparks, a couple in the same city with Pittsburgh and Cleveland. I've been to two on my own then with friends. It's so much fun seeing a video like this and reminiscing. We saw Bob Feller at an Old-Timers Game in Florida 70 years after my great-uncle saw him for his 10th birthday at League park. Hey Depressed Ginger, Do you have a video about all the ones you visited?
I don’t get what’s wrong with marlins’s loan depot park and you always bash it. Have you been to Miami during the summer?they need this stadium to play baseball down there.
as a houstonian, Minute Maid is an awesome park and is definitely safe. everyone here loves it. it's certainly better than Globe Life. I'm sure they'll renovate to some extent in the next 10 years but i'd be shocked to see it replaced in the next 25 tbh
Great American has had many renovations. They are doing a renovation right now for a bar area you can watch the game at.
How about giving us the names of the stadiums and their home teams? I despise naming rights, because you can't tell where the places are.
Target Field - It's obviously a "safe park" and I should point out that it has had numerous smaller renovations over the years. A new main scoreboard along with other smaller ones. A new bar area above the batter's eye. Seating changed in right field around the overhang. Etc etc - they have been doing tweaks almost every year it seems.
I've come to the conclusion you have ZERO idea about stadiums. Some of the "tweener" stadiums are insane especially Loan Depot, Comerica Park, And minute maid park
Cool vid @Depressed Ginger! I know this has nothing to do with the vid, but a vid on March 11 2020 or the 13 would be cool. I feel like the 11 is when the sports world shutdown and 13 was when the real world shut down.
Oh, the plan-demic. Never waste an opportunity to milk a crisis to push political or financial agendas.
Comerica Park is actively undergoing renovations!! (I work across the street and they have been renovating it the last month or two) They are just about complete a really nice new scoreboard and other amenities. I would say they are likely safe for now otherwise it's a really silly investment by the Tigers to renovate.
I disagree with T-Mobile Park, Nationals Park, and American Family Field’s placements on the tweener list. Those three ought to be in the safe category. American Family Field is going nowhere till at least 2050. Nationals Park just opened in 2008. It’s not even 20 years old yet. How could you put such a young stadium in the tweener category?! I get loanDepot Park, but at the same time, the Marlins have always been sub-par. I’d say ownership of the Marlins needs to be changed and then people would start coming.
And by the way, you still haven’t reported on the brand new two videoboards that are being installed at American Family Field. The renovations began this offseason. There are pictures on the internet of the Brewers swapping out videoboards!
Yeah agreed
Video boards can't change the fact the stadium has an airport hanger vibe. And it's lighting is terrible. Indoor baseball stadiums are SO UGLY and un-majestic to outdoor only ballparks.
I have no doubt that some of those ballparks (Fenway, Wrigley, etc.) are going to be around in some way, shape, or form 500 years from now.
It has to be just like lambeau field in Green Bay will never be demolished
@@MrUnsolvedMystery Too true, even as a Cubs/Bears fan. I’m pretty sure that the second it’s announced if the Packers leave, the city of Green Bay is gonna erupt in riots. Nothing screams, “We don’t care about this franchise.” like not having a care about the venue.
Angel stadium ain't going nowhere.
I like Angels Stadium.
Same, full of history, and alot of highs and lows for my halo's
@@CaydenDecker-jx8zhHistory 😂
Tho the former mayor of Anaheim is going to prison for corruption dealing with the sale of the stadium.
@zardsire2012 Yeah, it's the 4th oldest stadium in mlb, and has been around since 1966. Sure it's team has been mediocre for a long while, but it does not mean Angel Stadium has no history.
I think in MLB most of the parks are safe even the ones that need to be remodeled within the next few years to a decade. I don't think there's more than 5 tweener or endangered parks in here. The ones I'd take out of tweener are mainly T-Mobile Park which definitely isn't going anywhere in the next 2 decades. Minute Maid Park, Miller Park, Great American Ballpark, Loan Depot Park, Angel Stadium, and I have no idea why you hate Chase Field so much? Chase Field is extremely beautiful, and was ahead of its time. The situations that I'm definitely looking at will be White Sox stadium which is clearly moving to downtown Chicago soon, Comerica Park which has a renovation situation, but could easily be replaced too, and Rogers Centre might get another huge renovation sooner than we think as Toronto could still be working on getting the Olympics there in the 2030s. If I had to guess, one of the Florida teams will be on the move.
I agree on Chase field. Definitely needs a renovation but overall especially when the roofs open one of the nicest ballparks in the league
Your nuts in talking that the parks have to be replaced very soon. When the owners use their own money OK. BUT KNOWING AND SEEING HOW POOR CITIES ARE IN TAKING CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS WITH SCHOOLS , ETCETERA, THE IDEA OF REPLACING THEM , SHOULD BE DROPPED
the problem of the marlins is not the attendance but the ownership who keeps the team inconsistent
I think MLB is bringing to realize that anything with a retractable roof is only going to be desirable so long as the roof is working, and those things are hard and expensive to maintain. Without major $$$, any of the current retractable roof stadiums are likely to be on shaky ground in the next 15 or 20 years.
If the Rays DO stay in the Tampa Bay Area, they might have to extend their lease on the Trop another season at this point. New stadiums take a while to build and have construction delays all the time. They haven’t even turned dirt on a new stadium yet.
I’m just glad Wrigley and Fenway are safe ❤
Most of these stadiums are going to around for a while. And Comerica park has had a small renovation. They did move the fences in. Just wondering if you have ever been to any of these stadiums.
I think MMP is safe but agree with you about changing the glass behind the train track
American Family Field will be staying into the 2050s
He probably hasn’t been to many of theses stadiums to judge more accurately
@@shinichi6235I been to all 30. It's a BAD stadium. Dimly lit Airport Hanger vibes. Drunks who rather be at an American Football game tailgating in the sea of parking lots outside. Easily a bottom 10 stadium. Indoor stadiums are SO UGLY and un-majestic to outdoor only parks
Yuck. Hopefully not. Indoor stadiums are SO ugly especially that one with it's airport hanger vibe. It needs to be replaced with an outdoor park. Baseball's best ballparks are majestic outdoors only ones
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaIt has updated lighting in there now and it's a LOT better. As far as the tailgating goes, how is that a negative? That's one of the highlights lol.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaHave you even been to it when it's open?
Rogers was considering redeveloping the entire stadium area: tearing down Sky Dome, building a dedicated baseball park with real grass, then slicing off a portion of the land for mixed-use development to fund it. Instead they decided upon a major reno, but they may yet return to option A at some point in the future.
Minneapolis is SPECTACULAR in the summer. There's no chance the Twins ever go back indoors. The entire reason for building Target Field the way it is is to play baseball outdoors. If they *ever* felt the need to play indoors, US Bank Stadium technically is multipurpose.
T-Mobile park is in not in any danger. The park has been well maintained and is in extremely good condition. The ownership has not hinted that they are unhappy with it.
This guy would advocate for tearing down anything older than about 30 years old and squandering billions of dollars for something brand new.
Great American ballpark is heavily underrated. Comerica I’ve never liked since replacing tiger stadium. I still think the Tigers should’ve found a way to save Tiger stadium. That stadium will always be my all time favorite ballpark. It just oozed national pastime.
I don’t know any of these corporate names.
The Marlins and the city of Miami have a signed agreement for 30 years. I think they can leave in 2041 or 42
Comerica Park opened in around 2000 or 2001, so it was built after Progressive was built
Yes, 2000 was its first season.
I'm a sucker for hearing about retractable roofs, average colour seatings and upper decks.
I like to describe Busch as the least bad stadium. Not to be confused with the best its just there's not really anything bad to say about it. Solid park overall
contradicts himself in almost every other sentence.. "This stadium needs nothing for the next 30 years." Serious? every stadium gets renevations every 5-8 years
The sad thing about Guaranteed Rate (Comiskey 2) is that it was outdated a year after it opened. The "new" retro look of Camden Yards became the standard.
Progressive Field isnt going anywhere, it's loved by the fanbase, and every renovation has been liked. The current renovation was needed, and the park is getting new seats.
Comerica Park opened in 2000. Progressive in 1994
If you post MLB ballpark videos everyday I will watch everyday
One thing that I disagree with. Renovations extend the life of ballparks. Had the extensive renevations to the original Yankee Stadium not happened in the '70s, the park probably would've been replaced and demolished sometime between 1980 and 1990, instead of 2009. Fenway and Wrigley have had a number of renovations each, and they're going to stick around for a long time to come. So pointing out all the renovations that many of these parks have had in his "tweener" or "endangered" groupings are is funny, since that's what's going to make them stick around a few decades longer.
Comerica park has received minor renovations the past couple years, it’s still a great attraction and the city backdrop will ensure the stadium withstands the test of time. Detroit won’t be moving on from this one for a very long time, all 3 of their pro sports are within 2 blocks of each other.
The 'Stros extended their lease at MMP until 2050, so it ain't going anywhere for another 26 years.
As a Kansas Citian, the majority of people are against the Royals moving the stadium downtown for MANY reasons. The Royals and Chiefs have both recently threatened to leave the city unless they get what they want (and we pay for it).
As far as I'm concerned...let the Royals go. The chiefs have everything to lose, the Royals are a pathetic team who barely draw and barely win. They wouldn't really be missed that much
Could you do a video on good ownership/bad ownership of every mlb team?
People bash Oakland but then they go to a game there and be like wow this isn’t so bad as what people make it to be ! John Fisher never invested money into the stadium or team and blocked the Raiders owner from doing so
It's not as bad as people make it out to be....it's worse
Yeah T-Mobile is top 5 ballparks period. It ain't going anywhere. Everyone just overlooks it because Seattle is so far away from every other baseball city.
Miami isn't going anywhere. And Loan Depot Park isn't going anywhere.
Yup!!! That's right brother I'm so sick of this guy talking trash he does not know how the Marlins operated
Love Nationals park. I always love going down there.
Nothing wrong with Great American Ballpark that decent Reds teams wouldn't curr.
It’s funny when you say teams are moving. Where will they go? Is there really a dire need for a team in Nashville or Portland?
As fare as Angels Stadium is concerned, you may want to consider also the impact from the fact that a former mayor of Anaheim pleaded guilty a few months ago to federal corruption charges connected with the proposed sale of the stadium.
What is interesting about that corruption case that the mayor pleaded to accepting a briber but the guy who was giving the bribe (Angels owner Arte Moreno) suffered no consequences. The mayor agreed to sell Angel Stadium and surrounding land at a below market price
T-Mobile is beyond solid. It’s a great stadium in a great place. Lots of infrastructure and knowing Seattle, they’d rather invest in more important things than a vanity project.
The AmFam Clam being in the bottom 10 ballparks is insane. It’s a great stadium and it’s going nowhere for at least 30 years or so.
Just got rated #2 in food. Great place to watch a game and NEVER get rained out.
I have not gone back and reread the story, so I am going by memory here. Anyway, it is my understanding that when the University of Kentucky built Kentucky Proud Park that it was designed and built with sustainability in mind. A large percentage of materials used were recycled materials. A large percentage of materials were sourced from within a certain radius. I believe that it was designed to minimize things like water use and electric power use. Etc.
We should be discussing the same things about MLB stadiums. Keeping, renovating or replacing stadiums should be done with sustainability in mind. We don't hear anything about that in the above video. It is all about aesthetics, attendance, age, history, reputation, ownership situation, etc.
After revenue and player and fan safety the deciding consideration should be sustainability. I say that any stadium that is in safe condition should be renovated or repurposed, not replaced, and the renovation should be done to make everything more ecologically friendly. For example, create more shaded areas and play more games during the day. If seating capacity is going to be reduced, while you are at it replace the remaining chair seats that are made of plastic or whatever it is with seats made from bamboo. Etc.
Toronto's renos have been incredible!
As a Jays' fan since the late 1970s, I think the renovations have been amazing. The Blue Jays obviously make the changes they needed to in order to improve the viewing experience.
The ball park has a brand new feel and look to it with the new seats and configurations.
Skydome is safe. Where would they put another stadium?
if the dbacks leave chase field you could easily gut the interior and turn it to a soccer specific stadium for an expansion mls team. chase field does have the perfect shape to do than in, it a square airplane hanger
never happening
@@user-et9kb7cl5x whats then plan when the d-backs either get a new stadium or relocate? just let chase field rot or tear it down
Great American ballpark is safe the reds always get a home opener because the city loves them so much
Fitting for Chase Utley (Owner of the Mets) to be on the scoreboard in the Citi Field pic
Just curious - why is Chase obsolete?
Too many seats and not enough fans.
@@johnhairston6266 I'd like to think that an unexpected playoff run will cure that problem. I guess we'll see.
@@ktpinnacle Unexpected playoff run ? They were just in the world series last year.
@@jefflewis4 Who picked AZ to win the NL West?
@@ktpinnacle You don't have to win the NL west to make a playoff run. Pecota picked them to be 3rd in wins in the NL with 85 wins, that's in the playoffs.
Comerica Park isn’t going anywhere, with Ford Field next door and Little Caesars Arena a block or so away. Definitely needs renovating beyond the new Jumbotron and food court TVs.
Don't eat Rob Manfred's stupid pills when it comes to the state of Miller Park...sorry, the Pabst Palace...oops, American Family Field. There isn't a bad seat in the house, the facilities were in good shape as of the last game I attended there (in the middle of last year), and the tailgating experience is still second to none.
Mark Attanasio is a cheapskate owner a tier or two above abjectly awful people like John Fisher, John Angelos, and Bob Nutting, and I suspect he's asked Rob Manfred to declare the stadium to be obsolete because he wants a shiny new stadium with more luxury boxes, an even more team-friendly lease deal, and a nearby baseball district - and if that process ends with the team moving to California or Texas or somewhere else with more taxpayer money than they know what to do with, I'm sure that's quite fine by him. That would be the only reason the stadium might be at risk of no longer hosting MLB ball...a greedy owner upset at the poor local TV revenue situation, nothing inherently wrong with the facility itself.
I don’t think Fenway can be demolished
In my high school speech class ('87) we had to write legislation and argue for it in one assignment. Mine was on making historic stadiums national landmarks. They did that years later for real.and you're right. It and Wrigley can't be demolished as far as I know. Refurbished and converted sure. Wow, a bed and breakfast in Wrigley. I would love that :)
Petco Park is a beautiful stadium, cant say the same about the inhabitants though.....
Been there, great Atmosphere and the food is amazing.
Delusional saying Nationals park is a tweener. It’s still new and it’s in a good area. Just say you don’t know anything about them.
It may never host another MLB game after 2024, but I don’t think the Oakland Coliseum will actually get torn down for a while. It will probably sit empty and mostly unused for a decade or more.
the Colliseum is going to get torn down as soon as the A's leave. Bet on it.
Hey Depressed, why do think that 30 year old stadiums are outdated and should be demolished? Who's going to pay for them? Wrigley and Fenway are 100 years old, and they are my favorite parks to watch a game. They have their own personalities. I also liked Kaufman, with the fountain show in between innings. KEEP the older stadiums.
Loandepot park has a huge issue called lack of parking
Busch Stadium is horrid for one reason: the seats all face forward not angled towards the pitcher like almost all modern stadiums. We sat like 10 rows back beside the visitors dugout and if we sat looking forward in our seats we were looking at a space 10 feet behind the second base bag. The person in front of us had to sit literally sideways to not crook their neck to watch the pitcher. So many stadiums angled the seats BEFORE Busch was designed that this is just inexcusable.
The Angels will be sold and likely stay in Anaheim there’s plenty of room to build a new stadium in the parking lot like they did with Shea Stadium. The Angels have a loyal fan base and it’s a great market.
Would the Roman Coliseum have lasted as long as it has if it were built in today's world?
if the angels move, we’d riot
Marlins will not be leaving Miami because of their lease. They are locked in for 30 years. They have clauses in their lease that prevents them from moving anytime soon.
if and when Progressive field gets replaced i have little to no trust that anything will be affordable and will be the only thing the Guards have spent legit money on just to charge Clevelanders more for the same product.
Truist Park is staying for the long haul! Good news for my Atlanta Braves!
Comerica Park opened in 2000
I laugh at most of the assertions of OBSOLETE you claim... I look differently at a stadium... it's obsolete for 1 of 2 reasons... 1. The field itself is unplayable... (see Astrodome)... 2. The stadium is unsafe for fans.... The Brewers park is showing some issues on this... but not as bad as MLB and the Brewers claim... I think MLB and the Teams are their own worst enemies... These Stadium Districts they want are actually killing them... why? They are trying to squeeze every last time from the fans nightly. Problem: They are not leaving the fans with enough money for 81 home dates.. leading to empty ball parks.. They want fans to consider the game an all-day event... for the NFL with 8/9 home dates/year and 1 game/week... that's great... for MLB.. 81 home date... The "event" gets seriously watered down by the end of April. Then, making the stadiums smaller... only gives the appearance of a sellout.. and the teams an excuse to raise ticket prices because they are fewer.. except... the more they tarp seats/take them out... more and more fans are staying home.. they are being priced out. I reckon that soon, Cities will start to see that MLB is it's owner worst enemy and stop building the baseball cathedrals... Baseball was at it's peak when most towns had their own teams and MLB was not a big draw on TV.. Well, cities will start to realize.. MLB needs them MORE than they need MLB.. and something tells me Oakland is going to become the first of many who realize this. And the bigger the city... the less the THREAT to move will phase them...
Absolutely. It is so ridiculous with the stadiums now. Rob Manfred and team owners have screwed things up. And eventually more cities will get tired of subsidized stadiums that last only 25 or 30 years without either a major renovation or replacement.
Only thing CBP needs is a more dugout protection so Harper doesnt keep falling in it
We have to build new stadiums and arenas for the teams every five years
American family field the brewers and the city just agreed to 27 more years in the stadium how is that a tweener?
Because it's still dimly lit and has an airplane hanger vibe. Indoor baseball stadiums are so ugly and un-majestic to outdoor only parks
@@HoshizakiYoshimasaIt's not dimly lit.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa it’s not indoor? Or dimly lit?