Maybe but that does not mean the teams can’t move out of them at some point if they find they want to build something new. They can also get around that by leaving just enough of the old so it would not be considered a total tear down.
@@scotttild Ya you’re right that the teams themselves can move, which I doubt would ever happen, but as far as the actual stadiums themselves they cannot be touched unless they change the rules regarding the National Registry.
You do know landmark status doesn’t guarantee safety from demolition right? Some day, all that will be in those spaces is a plaque on a condo building 😂
As true as I personally feel you are, it don't matter. I say that cause, Indians were part of our history, part of most of our childhood, but they want to write off the Indian heritage and pretend it never happened. Teams change their names to forget them. We all played cowboys and Indians growing up, but we may not remember when we are older. The government wants it to have never happened. How many of you always wanted to be the Cowboy, because the cowboy was the good guy, Indians are evil belligerents? But, it's not til you get older that you realize that you have sub 50% Indian in your blood? Was it only me, I doubt it!
Chase Field might get demolished but I really can't imagine the Diamondbacks playing anywhere other than downtown Phoenix. Their stadium is just such an iconic part of the Phoenix skyline. One thing they could do is play their home games at their spring training ballpark in Scottsdale for a year while Chase Field spends a year getting remodeled and modernized. Then the Diamondbacks go right back to playing at the new and improv Chase Field the next season.
Scottsdale would be a disaster for a big stadium. Granted I would like it because I live here, but no public transportation, far away from many population centers. Yeah, we are the"cool" part of the Valley (not me) but Scottsdale would be terrible. I would think Tempe would be better. And I am not a fan of Chase, I think remodeling it within it's structure would be better than demolishing it.
It would be way too fucking hot to go to a baseball game in the summer. Even if you had games at midnight it would be 100 degrees+. Legitimate safety risk for fans and players
The majority of the higher incomes are in the East Valley including Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa etc. Attendance would rise quite a bit with a Scottsdale stadium location. Players would also love it because they all live there.
@@matthewoehler2472 Tempe couldn't get an arena for the Coyotes approved, so how could they get a approval for Diamondbacks stadium, especially since a baseball stadium requires more space and space is limited in densely-populated Tempe. You state that Scottsdale has no public transportation, but private motor vehicle use is still the most dominant form of transportation in the Phoenix area, as is the case for most cities outside of New York City and the inner cores of some of the older, more densely-populated cities. Scottsdale is closer to Valley population centers than the site of the sports facilities in Glendale that are home to the Cardinals and was the former home of the Coyotes. There is space to build a new Diamondbacks stadium by redeveloping older areas adjacent to Old Town Scottsdale. It would be easy for people throughout the Valley to get to the Scottsdale stadium via the SR 101 freeway, which comes from southeastern suburbs like Chandler, Mesa, and Gilbert and from northern Phoenix and its western suburbs. Plenty of parking could be developed, and with all of the restaurants, bars, and nightlife options, people will be willing to come early to games and stay afterwards late. If people don't want to drive or don't want to risk a DUI, there are abundant Uber and Lyft drivers available to take them from and to their homes.
@@matthewoehler2472 You're right! There is no public transportation. They don't have bus or light rail. They need a buses or light rail. Lot of people who rode on light rail from Mesa, Tempe, and else.
I'm convinced that Rogers Centre is going to be around until 2075 at least. It's in a good location and there's not really anywhere else to put a stadium. It's well maintained and has a retractable roof which is necessary here. And since Rogers is a publicly traded company, I can't see them dropping $2bn CAD on another retractable roof stadium. As much as it gets a bad rap/ranking, it just works so well for this city.
This is one of the oddest channels on youtube, yet it's somehow quite watchable. Anyway, a retractable roof for the Dodgers? I just went to Dodger Stadium this week and it's still a great experience with one big exception -- driving there. The Dodgers don't need a roof and probably won't need a new stadium for another half century or more. What they need is a subway stop, trolley stop, bus stops or multiple better ways to get there. Also, Camden Yards is not getting demolished this century.
They really do its just sucks in heat. They might be able to do some kind where they give the fans more protection, but they really need something new if they want to keep the revenue stream up. They also could consider moving to a different location, there really is nothing around dodger stadium and that just does not work great in this day and age, although LA is a bit unique in that everyone drives anyway.
@@scotttild I don't see Dodger stadium coming down anytime soon. Yes, the traffic is nuts and it can get toasty mostly during midday games on Sundays. That said the Dodgers usually finish close or near the top of MLB attendance despite the heat and the traffic. As for the team leaving Chaves Ravin, I can't see that happening. When they first moved to L.A. back in the late 50's the city council essentially tossed out a large group of low-income families to make room for the stadium. However, it would be quite the sight if the Dodgers ever do leave the ravine to see it replaced with an upscale housing development where once modest homes stood. If the Dodgers do ever replace Dodger stadium, I would like to see the stadium turned so it faces the downtown area. As it is now there isn't much to look at other than a hill and a few palm trees. I've been to the stadium, the views facing the downtown area especially at night can be spectacular.
I think Dodger Stadium, Fenway Park and Wrigley Field will never be torn down. I think each place will get renovations for years to come. And even if the teams move to newer stadiums that those 3 will be preserved. They could make them into museums.
@@gooby1926 And McCourt still owns part of the lot. What they should do is put parking lot towers there. That would help. The worst place to park is near the upper decks.
@@donaldkennedy9573 a parking structure would help immensely. Dodger Stadium needs to take notes from Fenway, and incorporate the stadium into the neighborhood.
@@gooby1926a parking structure would be the opposite of incorporating into the neighborhood. What they should do is develop a quarter or half the property with restaurants, bars, even residential if possible. Add a metro rail stop in there coming in from Chinatown and the valley and take away the need fro people to drive into the stadium.
They won’t take out dodger stadium. People forget that is it 100% owned by the ball club, and safest building in LA for earth quakes. It was built like a rock in side of a hill. Why give up profits and share with the city?
Agreed! If The Big Quake devastates Los Angeles, Dodger Stadium will still be left standing with zero to minimal damage. As for heat, 70% of the home games are played at night anyway. It'll still be there well past 2062.
Kaufman is 50 years old but still feels relatively serviceable - same as Chavez Ravine. Citizens Bank will be one of those that in another 30 years time will feel like it was opened yesterday
Busch, PNC, Camden Yards and Petco will all likely keep renovating, they're just great parks to really ever get rid of, ballparks are built so much better now, that remodels will do just fine and keep up with the times more than likely.
Not from KC, not following the beat of the Royals, so... Have they announced officially a project? Is the money secured? Has a shovel really turned more soil over than during a photo op ceremony? Are there cranes and construction workers busy? Or is the selected land occupied and some other building needs to be torn down?
Kaufman would be awesome if it was downtown in a neighborhood where fans can walk to games and live close to it, have something to do before and after games and had public transportation. I hate going to Kaufman, you have to pay a lot to park (more than ticket prices sometimes), it's in the middle of nowhere, no views of anything but the I-70, no public transportation (even if it does, it would take hours to get there). Cute stadium and yummy food though.
I think the Oakland Coliseum will be tied up in red tape for at least a couple of years. The split ownership is a big problem and will cause delays IMO. I don't see it getting demolished before 2028-29 personally. I think your Guaranteed Rate Field prediction is spot on.
Bingo. The other thing, without sounding like a homer, is the Pohlads have continued to make renovations and improve the park on a consistent basis, much like what homeowners should be doing. The issue is when a ballpark or home has no changes for 5 years, for 10 years, and then there comes a time where a huge investment is needed to keep things afloat (see Brewers).
People who go to Citi Field mostly say what a beautiful ballpark it is. Don't know how it is obsolete. As for a dome, there was thought of putting a dome on Shea back in the 1960s. The issue is the ballpark is built on a old land fill so there would be questions if the ground could support the additional weight.
@@johnm8079 That is your opinion which is in the minority of what many people feel. Never heard Citi Field being called a dump. Shea was called that, but it was a place many Mets fans loved. The area is better than it was in the Shea days. Still a long way to go.
There is literally no way the MLB would move the team out of Denver. Top 15 in attendance every year despite the team losing so much and no other teams even in the near vicinity. On this point your "I don't know" was very apparent.
I think Wrigley Field will NEVER be demolished, that’s a VERY HISTORIC BALLPARK, I think it will be around for eternity, you can’t demolish a historic ballpark like Wrigley, same for Fenway Park in Boston
Fenway is now on the National Registry of Historic Places so it literally cannot be taken down. The Sox might move to an upgraded stadium but Fenway itself will always be there, as it should be.
The problem with the Angels is the owner Arte Moreno not the fanbase (avg 30k+ fans per game even with 9 years in a row under .500) or the city. They do need a new stadium in Anaheim tho.
3:59 If the Diamondbacks fail, the NFL Arizona Cardinals can have Chase Bank Stadium in Downtown Phoenix, Arizona or a new Football/Soccer Stadium right is under Chase Stadium
I’ve never been to Kaufman Stadium, but from what I see, it’s still a nice ballpark, it would be wrong for the Royals to leave there and build a new stadium in downtown Kansas City, the ballpark has been given a major outfield renovation, so I don’t see the Royals leaving Kaufman Stadium anytime soon, they’ll be there for many more years, I think
The stadium is crumbling, the owners want a new stadium there have already released renderings it’s pretty much a done deal that the royals are getting a new stadium, I do agree tho Kaufman stadium is great all it needs is a small renovation and it’s good for the next 30+ years
I think if T-Mobile Park renovates the right field upper deck into some sort of pavilion, that should prolong its stadium life. I’m sure they’re experimenting with the idea given that they put a deep dish pizza concession in the upper right field deck area that’s consistently busy every home game.
As someone who has been to every stadium, I can safely say Guaranteed Rate (Comiskey) is one of the nicest ballparks in baseball. There’s really no bad seat. The concourse is big. The food is the best in baseball. they have the scoreboard. Parking is easy (especially compared to some of the stadiums). It gets a bad rap. Most people who don’t like it haven’t actually been there.
that’s what i’ve been saying, i went for the first time last august expecting a dump but was pleasantly surprised, there might not be much uniqueness but definitely not bottom of the barrel
@@daultonlockett7856 Thank you. It’s just a nice, comfortable ballpark. No bells and whistles, but great food. And do people go to a ballgame for a swimming pool or for food? Nice weather 3/4 off the season. And it looks like a ballpark, not an amusement park. I love it. San Fran and Baltimore are my top two, but this is in my top 10 easily.
As a Chicago native and dedicated Cubs fan, I have been spoiled by getting used to Wrigley. When I went to Guaranteed Rate for the first time, I was kind of disappointed by how boxed in and screen filled it seemed. Of course, only knowing one of the most open air and old-timey stadiums doesn't help. The reason that it gets such a bad rap is probably because it only has one of the worst names of any stadium, and the overall Sox situation is not great.
@@bknsty14And that’s the problem. There’s nothing unique or interesting about the park. I think each park has to have something that makes it stand out. It doesn’t have to be as famous as the Monster at Fenway or the ivy at Wrigley but it just needs something to make it pop. There’s nothing wrong with being a simple stadium but in the long run I don’t think it will survive as long as it could have cause there’s no obvious reason to keep it in place.
I’m visiting all 30, I visited the Sox this year during a blistering day game. I absolutely loved Guaranteed Rate. To me, that stadium was made with the fan in mind. Best views for watching the game. Screen was big and bright. The seats were perfectly angled towards the playing field. The food was incredible, not just some lame ballpark food. I grew up in Angel stadium though, so literally every ballpark knocks my Sox off when I compare it to the Halo’s giant dump of a stadium.
I think 2050 for T-Mobile is way premature. If you look back at how bad the Kingdome was before Seattle approved the new stadiums for the Seahawks and M’s, the current park will be around awhile IMO. Unless of course the team threatens a move again. The state is pretty divided on sports spending…
The naming agreement for Busch is twenty years, so we'll see what happens. Cardinals have played in three ballparks with two names. Sportsmans Park and Busch. When they built the old Busch stadium home plate was delivered by helicopter. New Busch used part of the old ballpark. I don't have special knowledge, but I get the feeling Busch was built to last for a very, very long time.
Every year there is talk of a ballpark on the chopping block. It seems like yesterday the Chicago White Sox just got the New Comiskey Park (Guaranteed Rate Field or whatever the corporate flavor of the day is). Now they're in this situation again.
Not really yesterday, it is now 33 years old. Most dual-puprpose stadiums that opened in the 60's and 70's didn't last as long. A good example is the Kingdome, less than 24 years (1976-2000)
as an arizona born and dbacks fan, thinking about chase field getting demolished aches because there’s so many iconic moments there. randy johnson took the bump, jay bell’s 6th inning grand slam, gonzo’s single, 2001 world series, you name it:( 2nd edit: also it’s an iconic part of arizona, you type arizona on google, you get pictures of the phoenix skyline along with chase field. it’s vibes are just perfect and etc. the restaurants around chase field are iconic too. we have the iconic opening windows. plus it being in the middle of phoenix makes it sm easier for fans to get there, compared to scottsdale and tempe
I really like the location as well living on central Ave its a straight shot down the street id hate for it to move some where like Scottsdale and have to drive further out. Downtown is central for the whole valley a whole other reason for the city to expand the light rail.
9:19 “if cincinnati still have their team”their the first ever mlb team there is no way they would ever dare move. Their rooted in cincy theire here to stay. Thats like the montreal canadiens (the first nhl team) leaving montreal
Rogers Centre is funny. Its a huge part of Torontos skyline. They kinda cant demolish it. And it sits there like a concrete fortress. Itll just get renovated over and over.
Redevelopment projects have a funny way of dragging on for years. I have a feeling a few of the ones listed as demolished in the 2020s will hang around in a semi-abandoned state for longer than we think.
knock them all down and build one baseball field that fits all the mlb teams in one big dome in the middle of the dessert. the dome will protect the fans and players from the radiation and the desert should prevent the swarms of locusts from disrupting the games. have it grandfathered in and have the seat positions adjusted, redo the upper deck and add some better restaurants
I think a lot of these stadiums are going to last a long while. They demolished Forbes Field, Yankee Stadium, and Tiger Stadium, so nothing can last forever. I could see the league requiring the Rockies to play in a dome somewhere down the road.
10:51 the SkyDome (including its roof) was built to last 100 years and knowing how penny-pinching a company Rogers is, they'll keep kicking that can down the road until it's condemned and then demand the governments pay for a new stadium. They bought the stadium for an absolute steal. Taxpayers funded it to the tune of $500M (chump change today but exorbitant in 1989) and Rogers bought it for $20M (yes TWENTY, not a typo) in 2004. So I'd say your 2065 prediction would be accurate if Rogers sells the team to somebody else between now and then, and the new owners can build a new stadium without going to the taxpayers.
Not sure why you would think T-Mobile Park will be put out to pasture before the other stadiums that are in its age range. There have been no serious talks about major renovations, and the building is still considered a crown jewel for stadiums on the west coast.
What is the attraction of Camden Yards?That small warehouse behind right field? Check out the buildings in East Newark,NJ if you want to see something huge.
DG, why all the Northwest hate lately. Saying Seattle will lose tehir stadium in 50 years is crazy. Yeah it opended in 1999, but they keep it up, it's a perfect location, it's up kep, it's beautiful, it lasts. I would say it's a ???? like the Giants and Pirates stadiums.
Angles are never moving out of LA you don’t leave a number 2 TV market for a smaller city like Nashville.. Both Dodgers and Angles will build something new in the near future most likely some kind of dome or retractable roof. But no way to the Angeles move. Angles have a generally decent TV deal so they are not moving and getting less. Its just been ownership that has been bad.
If they left Anaheim, I can picture the Angels going to the Inglewood area to be SoFi (Rams/Chargers)and the Clippers new arena and create a new super complex similar to say in Philadelphia.
Dodger Stadium's biggest risk is probably a natural disaster like an earthquake making it unsafe. The same would be true for Oracle and Petco. Having MLB move Colorado because of its altitude makes no sense when high altitude teams like the Diamondbacks and Athletics (if they move to Las Vegas) are in the same league and if a potential relocation or expansion into Salt Lake City happens some day.
It’s hard to imagine how far some of these years are away. We will probably already be thru WWIII by the time some of these years hit. Heck we might not even exist by that time.
I think Truist Park is more predictable. Atlanta can't go more than a decade without building a new stadium. The heat in Atlanta will cause the braves to move to Marietta into a retractable roof stadium in 2029.
I was thinking 2035 would be when they will get a new stadium and sale Truist to a college like they were forced to do with Turner field but I don't see them destroying it
Do you not realize that the heat is much more bearable in the Atlanta area than in places like Tampa, Houston, Dallas, and Miami because it sits at around one thousand feet in elevation. You definitely feel sometimes a ten degree difference in temperature between northern Georgia, including Atlanta, and southern Georgia. There would be no reason to move into a retractable roof. Most games are near nightfall and the temperature isn't that high.
@willp.8120 it isn't just the heat which can get into the upper 90s and sometimes the lower 100s but the humidity which can make the difference in temperature unbearable
@@knotadoctor1455 I live in the Atlanta area and have lived here my entire life, save times during college, and am currently 46 years old. I own a home in the northern suburbs of Atlanta. It rarely gets that hot. We recently did have a few upper 90d days but that is atypical. Where I live, the average summer high is about 88-89 degrees, with most hot days being no more than 92 or 93. This is unlike Dallas with temperatures often close to 100 degrees, or Houston with constant upper 90s and even higher humidity. In most summer days, the temperature doesn't even get somewhat hot until at least 1pm, sometimes 2 pm, and by 6:30 it starts to get cooler. A late day afternoon thunderstorm can take temperatures from the low 90s to 72 degrees within five minutes. The Atlanta area isn't all that hot. Only if you are constantly in the heat of the day( about five hours) on hotter days is it even an issue, and even then the hot season is only from the last week in June to the second week in September.
In the Halo Universe Progressive Field (Home of the Cleveland Indians) still stands as of 2552. Noting they are in Cleveland one of the Brute Commanders asks “What exactly is a Cleve?”
I feel like an article comes out every couple years that the Angels are planning to leave Anaheim for you name it- Long Beach, Industry, actual LA, somewhere else in the OC. I feel like the only thing that keeps them locked in that area are the Ducks across the street- but with how much the Ducks have been struggling with attendance, product on the ice, and their now aging barn, I feel like the Samuelis might consider moving the Ducks elsewhere eventually. As for Arte- hopefully that ******** will finally sell the team to someone who cares. One thing is for sure though. Angel stadium sucks. I just hope the Angels always stay in Southern California.
“70 degrees year round?”Tell me you’ve never been to so cal without telling me you’ve never been to so cal. But I’m there with you. The weather is way too good to have a roof. Stupid idea.
For the love of god please get rid of the Trop. It is a huge black eye for MLB. The fact that a ball can literally bounce off of objects and still be in play is ridiculous considering this is a professional sport. I would rather see the Coliseum stay for another 100 years then have to play one more game at that poor excuse for a ballpark. Stupid catwalks
Rogers Centre will last longer because in Canada, governments don't pay for stadiums anymore. Unless the Olympics comes to Toronto, it is going to have to be self funded.
@@ousamaabdu794 I have but when it first opened in the early 1990's. Out of the current 30 MLB teams here in 2023/'24, location wise is maybe the best. Near both of Toronto's 2 major subway lines and a regional train station that even has trains to Buffalo/NYC. Not to mention a major highway (called the Queen Elizabeth Expressway)that connects to other highways including the US border next to Buffalo. And finally Downtown Toronto including even the International Hockey Hall of Fame and shopping areas are within a 20-30 minute walk as well. Just my takes.
Contrary to what you said, there are some social spaces on the Promenade (upper level) of Citifield. There's the Hudson Whiskey place and the entire Promenade food court. All they really need are some more large displays up in the food court.
I disagree with Angels Stadium needing to be demolished. It's old sure, but it's a nice experience. Half of that is California weather, but whatever. It's a perfectly fine stadium and I think it overachieves despite it's age. It's comfortable and the food is good. Honda Center right across the street feels outdated, hell even Metlife is worse than Angels Stadium in my opinion. They Angels dont NEED a new stadium, but the obviously want one.
1. Fenway will get replaced eventually and the Red Sox will build near the Waterfront. But the new development delayed that for a few decades, I'm thinking 2060 or so. 2. Dodgers will build a new stadium as soon as the Angels do. 3. Citi Field will outlast New Yankee Stadium. 4. PNC, GABP, Oracle Park, and Target Field will become the new Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadiums, lasting many decades 5. Orioles will end up shocking the baseball world and replacing Camden Yards by 2030 6. Wrigley will be the forever stadium, outlasting Fenway
3:24 If American Family Field fails for the Brewers, the move into Green Bay Brewers new Stadium next door to Green Bay Packers Non-retractable Lambeau Field
It already makes no sense that Green Bay has an NFL team. At 108,000 in population there is no chance it would have a 2nd pro team. Madison with a population of 255,000 would at least make more sense.
It's Milwaukee or bust for Brewers. With renovations Miller Parks/American Family Field still have 30-40 years of use in it. It's a very solid ballpark that is about right for it's market.
This is interesting. These teams can move around, abandon cities and their fans, seek greener pastures, whatever. But absolutely NO public money should be used for stadia or arenas.
OK the joke was a Busch Stadium here. Will the naming rights still get changed before the stadium get demolished. Considering that’s the third building that has the first stadium name as people forget the last and years of Sportsmans Park was a Busch Stadium one. Or will the Cardinals eventually go the route of the blues and after rename there’s venue every five years or so… Or the soccer team, who had to rename the stadium before it even opened
GROSSLY underpredicting the shelf life of Truist Park. It'll probably be less than a generation before the Braves get buyer's remorse and want to relocate back downtown--or at least to within the city limits.
Why would the Braves want to move back downtown, when people are moving out of densely-populated inner-city areas with all of their problems, to more upscale and safer suburban areas?
@@scotthersey4380 When the kids get older, get married and have kids, then they will likely prefer to move to the suburbs. I prefer suburban living over inner-city living, even though I am not married and don't have kids. For example, I work in an older area in central Phoenix, which is dirty, crime-ridden, and has many homeless people. In Scottsdale, a suburb, it is cleaner, safer, the homes are a lot nicer, and you rarely see a homeless person. There is a variety of activities to do in Scottsdale, there are many events and excellent outdoor activities.
@@HighpointerGeocacher One's own preference isn't everybody else's. I live in a smaller city where the downtown is markedly cleaner and safer, and the suburbs are where you can find most of the crime. Moreover, franchises like K.C. have discovered exactly why locating oneself in nowhere-land isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Downtown Scootsdale would be a good location for a future Diamondbacks ballpark if the Diamondbacks need to upgrade from Chase Field. While Scottsdale is classified as a suburb of Phoenix, it is a relatively large city of its own, with a population of around a quarter-milllion, which is only about 50,000 less than St. Louis, a city with two MLB franchises up until 70 years ago.
@@412StepUp PNC Park may stay for a long time, but will the Pirates always be in Pittsburgh? Western Pennsylvania has been losing population for many years, so how long could the Pirates profitably remain in Pittsburgh if the area continues to decline, and there are other areas with greater population and prosperity that don't have a team?
@@HighpointerGeocacher Given the crazy economics of MLB, I wouldn't completely rule that out, however, there are several other MLB cities with population difficulties as well. To move a team which has been in existence in the same city since 1882, and in the NL since 1887, would be horrific.
@@Rondon216 I recently visited Pittsburgh and walked around PNC Park on a Saturday night when the Pirates were on the road, so there was no game. Looks like a beautiful park with statues of Clemente, Stargell, Mazeroski, and Honus Wagner. There are interesting things to do around the neighborhood, but didn't have time to explore the area extensively. However, the greater Pittsburgh area does feel significantly smaller, and definitely a lot older, than my current home region of metro Phoenix, which many think of as a "small market" but actually is situated in a county that has nearly twice the population of Greater Pittsburgh. The population of Greater Pittsburg is less than it was in 1960 and had declined in every census tabulation since 1970 except for 2020, when the population showed a modest increase from 2010. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Pittsburgh
@HighpointerGeocacher Excellent point about how Western PA has been losing population for the last 40 years.. I really think that tend might be reversed in the near future.. Western PA is very affordable and has great bones.. With many areas in the states getting outrageously expensive, I think that region will see positive growth by 2035.
"There's no way they'd demolish a 30-year-old stadium" But they did demolish basketball arenas in Charlotte, Miami and Orlando less than 20 years after they opened.
You mean it was built without a tenant in the hopes of luring a MLB team, and resulted in six teams getting new stadia in their home towns by threatening to move to St. Petersburg? The expansions in 1993 and 1998 were well-planned, as none of the new teams had nearby teams competing against them for fans (except for Tampa Bay, and Miami might as well be on a different planet), and all four of them were located in large cities which were still rapidly growing. Things didn't work out as well as everyone expected for the two Florida teams, but the Marlins would two World Series in their first ten years, and the Rays have been to the World Series twice.
The Angels already had a deal in place to replace Angel stadium before government found corruption and blew up the deal. That stadium is getting replaced.
The trend of moving to suburbs needs to end as a priority. And really, people need to get out of this mindset that it’s inevitable that stadiums get demolished and new ones built as a standard practice. The only exceptions would be if they made the mistake of moving out of city centres and need to move back, or stupidly were in the suburbs to begin with. I would love if they could lift up Tropicana Field and place it down in Tampa itself, because the Trop has a kind of cosy feeling to it despite it being a dome out in the middle of nowhere. There are other stadiums that are supposed to be better that I don’t get that feeling with.
Dodger Stadium with a roof? Are you insane? Never will happen. The roof at the Rams’ Stadium is there for two reasons. 1. It’s directly under the LAX flight path. Keeps the noise out. 2. To allow that ridiculously huge distracting scoreboard to hang from the center of the field allowing for more seats. There’s no reason to put a roof on that Stadium.
I think you're being way too generous with the longevity of modern stadiums. Most modern stadiums "need renovations" after 20 years, and are then "too old" after 30 years. It is extremely rare for a modern stadium to last beyond 30 years.
@scotttild The bullpen being moved _is a "renovation"._ In about 10 years, the team will be complaining that the stadium is "too old", and that they need a new stadium (funded by taxpayers, of course) in order to "stay competitive".
It's really hard to predict because so many of the newer parks since the 90s are in great shape and might last a very long-time, but I know some of them will be replaced too which makes it super hard to figure out. The ballparks before 1989 when Rogers Centre opened up were cookie-cutter and obsolete that's why like more than 85% of them are gone today. Only Fenway, Wrigley, and Dodger Stadium remains although Dodger Stadium is the Shea Stadium of the West Coast, so that's probably gonna be replaced by 2050. Dodger Stadium just has more of an allure to it because its been on several TV shows and movies before. Kaufman is going to get replaced with a stadium in the city in a few years. A lot of these are unpredictable, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them survive into the 2050s.
Rogers Centre is being Renovated to give it another 10 years. The problem is there is NO WHERE to build in Downtown Toronto. They are in the perfect spot. Honestly the playmight be to spend two years in Buffalo and then build on the same spot lol
Sorry DG, I don't get it. How do people rank these things? I find almost all stadium rankings and the difference between classic and old to be completely arbitrary and subjective. Ive been to them all plus ones that have gone and some international ones. What is your model? I think the top factors are location neighborhood and things around it, weather/comfotability, views, public transportation, practicality over flashy, organic over forced, and cost. I think there are a lot of classics here. My top 10 in order are Seattle, Houston, Arizona, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco, Baltimore, Minnesota, Miamii. Big honorable mention to Denver, Philly Toronto, Milwaukee as they just missed. I think Washington, Detroit, both New Yorks, Cleveland and White sox underrated, with all the new developments and with neighborhoods around the park. Future bubble stadiums are Cincinnati, Dodger, Atlanta,, Angel's, Boston,Wrigley and maybe Kansas City depending on how they all renovate and build up in the future. Oakland and Tampa are the only ones that need a whole new approach but could be classic at their sites if built up right but right now are the worst, Kansas city is close to being on the worst lisr..
Rogers Centre (or Skydome, as I know it) is getting another renovation over the winter, hence why the Jays will be playing on the road for most of April 2024. Shapiro says it'll be in phases, and since this will be phase 2, I assume there will be more to come. I don't think they'll be changing the roof due to our winters just being brutal. Although 2065 seems reasonable, considering City Council has been rumoured to have a proposal for a new stadium on the waterfront. For what? No one knows, that's why it's only a rumour.
"As we get more evolved." LOL. The US and the West are headed into territory that no one alive has any historical memory of experiencing. People will be sitting in lawn chairs to watch baseball in 2060, not in luxury dining suites 400 feet above field level in 360 degree leather recliners. The Seven Fat Years are coming to an end. Forever. Ballparks in the US prior to the economic boom created by WW2 had splinters in the wood bleachers. That's coming back. For the love of the game will determine your devotion to the sport, not your love of sushi burgers and 7th-inning stretch massages.
As a Red Sox fan, I don’t think Fenway will ever be demolished but if they do build a new stadium, I’d be disappointed if they made a replica field. I’d want something completely different but also unique.
When will MLB realize that Wrigley and Fenway are the crown jewels of their world? Both have evolved with the game. The stadiums are loved by their fans as much as they love the teams that play in them. Look at Chicago, Go to Wrigley Field and become immersed in the environment. Then, head south to the White Sox ( name changes every ten years) and sit in a giant box out in some manufacturing slum area. The park is 20ish years old, and we see sketches of the stadiums that will replace existing locations. Baseball has become a game of greed, and has lost it's soul.
Fenway Park is on the National Registry of Historical Palces, and Wrigley Field is a US National Landmark. Those places will be here forever
Maybe but that does not mean the teams can’t move out of them at some point if they find they want to build something new. They can also get around that by leaving just enough of the old so it would not be considered a total tear down.
@@scotttild Ya you’re right that the teams themselves can move, which I doubt would ever happen, but as far as the actual stadiums themselves they cannot be touched unless they change the rules regarding the National Registry.
So was the original Soldier Field
You do know landmark status doesn’t guarantee safety from demolition right? Some day, all that will be in those spaces is a plaque on a condo building 😂
As true as I personally feel you are, it don't matter. I say that cause, Indians were part of our history, part of most of our childhood, but they want to write off the Indian heritage and pretend it never happened. Teams change their names to forget them. We all played cowboys and Indians growing up, but we may not remember when we are older. The government wants it to have never happened. How many of you always wanted to be the Cowboy, because the cowboy was the good guy, Indians are evil belligerents? But, it's not til you get older that you realize that you have sub 50% Indian in your blood? Was it only me, I doubt it!
Chase Field might get demolished but I really can't imagine the Diamondbacks playing anywhere other than downtown Phoenix. Their stadium is just such an iconic part of the Phoenix skyline. One thing they could do is play their home games at their spring training ballpark in Scottsdale for a year while Chase Field spends a year getting remodeled and modernized. Then the Diamondbacks go right back to playing at the new and improv Chase Field the next season.
Scottsdale would be a disaster for a big stadium. Granted I would like it because I live here, but no public transportation, far away from many population centers. Yeah, we are the"cool" part of the Valley (not me) but Scottsdale would be terrible. I would think Tempe would be better. And I am not a fan of Chase, I think remodeling it within it's structure would be better than demolishing it.
It would be way too fucking hot to go to a baseball game in the summer. Even if you had games at midnight it would be 100 degrees+. Legitimate safety risk for fans and players
The majority of the higher incomes are in the East Valley including Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa etc. Attendance would rise quite a bit with a Scottsdale stadium location. Players would also love it because they all live there.
@@matthewoehler2472 Tempe couldn't get an arena for the Coyotes approved, so how could they get a approval for Diamondbacks stadium, especially since a baseball stadium requires more space and space is limited in densely-populated Tempe.
You state that Scottsdale has no public transportation, but private motor vehicle use is still the most dominant form of transportation in the Phoenix area, as is the case for most cities outside of New York City and the inner cores of some of the older, more densely-populated cities. Scottsdale is closer to Valley population centers than the site of the sports facilities in Glendale that are home to the Cardinals and was the former home of the Coyotes. There is space to build a new Diamondbacks stadium by redeveloping older areas adjacent to Old Town Scottsdale. It would be easy for people throughout the Valley to get to the Scottsdale stadium via the SR 101 freeway, which comes from southeastern suburbs like Chandler, Mesa, and Gilbert and from northern Phoenix and its western suburbs. Plenty of parking could be developed, and with all of the restaurants, bars, and nightlife options, people will be willing to come early to games and stay afterwards late. If people don't want to drive or don't want to risk a DUI, there are abundant Uber and Lyft drivers available to take them from and to their homes.
@@matthewoehler2472 You're right! There is no public transportation. They don't have bus or light rail. They need a buses or light rail. Lot of people who rode on light rail from Mesa, Tempe, and else.
I'm convinced that Rogers Centre is going to be around until 2075 at least. It's in a good location and there's not really anywhere else to put a stadium. It's well maintained and has a retractable roof which is necessary here. And since Rogers is a publicly traded company, I can't see them dropping $2bn CAD on another retractable roof stadium. As much as it gets a bad rap/ranking, it just works so well for this city.
This is one of the oddest channels on youtube, yet it's somehow quite watchable. Anyway, a retractable roof for the Dodgers? I just went to Dodger Stadium this week and it's still a great experience with one big exception -- driving there. The Dodgers don't need a roof and probably won't need a new stadium for another half century or more. What they need is a subway stop, trolley stop, bus stops or multiple better ways to get there. Also, Camden Yards is not getting demolished this century.
They really do its just sucks in heat. They might be able to do some kind where they give the fans more protection, but they really need something new if they want to keep the revenue stream up. They also could consider moving to a different location, there really is nothing around dodger stadium and that just does not work great in this day and age, although LA is a bit unique in that everyone drives anyway.
@@scotttild I don't see Dodger stadium coming down anytime soon. Yes, the traffic is nuts and it can get toasty mostly during midday games on Sundays. That said the Dodgers usually finish close or near the top of MLB attendance despite the heat and the traffic. As for the team leaving Chaves Ravin, I can't see that happening. When they first moved to L.A. back in the late 50's the city council essentially tossed out a large group of low-income families to make room for the stadium. However, it would be quite the sight if the Dodgers ever do leave the ravine to see it replaced with an upscale housing development where once modest homes stood. If the Dodgers do ever replace Dodger stadium, I would like to see the stadium turned so it faces the downtown area. As it is now there isn't much to look at other than a hill and a few palm trees. I've been to the stadium, the views facing the downtown area especially at night can be spectacular.
@@scotttild They need to play more night home games, like the Texas Rangers do.
I think Dodger Stadium, Fenway Park and Wrigley Field will never be torn down. I think each place will get renovations for years to come. And even if the teams move to newer stadiums that those 3 will be preserved. They could make them into museums.
With everyone becoming more aware of the Chavez ravine story around dodger stadium is looking shaky. Plus that parking lot is atrocious.
@@gooby1926 And McCourt still owns part of the lot. What they should do is put parking lot towers there. That would help. The worst place to park is near the upper decks.
@@donaldkennedy9573 a parking structure would help immensely. Dodger Stadium needs to take notes from Fenway, and incorporate the stadium into the neighborhood.
@@gooby1926nobody cares about that. If anything the owners owning so much of the land it will allow them to build a little city like the Braves did.
@@gooby1926a parking structure would be the opposite of incorporating into the neighborhood. What they should do is develop a quarter or half the property with restaurants, bars, even residential if possible. Add a metro rail stop in there coming in from Chinatown and the valley and take away the need fro people to drive into the stadium.
They won’t take out dodger stadium. People forget that is it 100% owned by the ball club, and safest building in LA for earth quakes. It was built like a rock in side of a hill. Why give up profits and share with the city?
Agreed! If The Big Quake devastates Los Angeles, Dodger Stadium will still be left standing with zero to minimal damage. As for heat, 70% of the home games are played at night anyway. It'll still be there well past 2062.
Kaufman is 50 years old but still feels relatively serviceable - same as Chavez Ravine. Citizens Bank will be one of those that in another 30 years time will feel like it was opened yesterday
Kaufman will be replaced though because the Royals are moving downtown in a few years.
Busch, PNC, Camden Yards and Petco will all likely keep renovating, they're just great parks to really ever get rid of, ballparks are built so much better now, that remodels will do just fine and keep up with the times more than likely.
Royals are quite literally building the new one not sure why other royals fans are in denial lmao
Not from KC, not following the beat of the Royals, so... Have they announced officially a project? Is the money secured? Has a shovel really turned more soil over than during a photo op ceremony? Are there cranes and construction workers busy? Or is the selected land occupied and some other building needs to be torn down?
Kaufman would be awesome if it was downtown in a neighborhood where fans can walk to games and live close to it, have something to do before and after games and had public transportation. I hate going to Kaufman, you have to pay a lot to park (more than ticket prices sometimes), it's in the middle of nowhere, no views of anything but the I-70, no public transportation (even if it does, it would take hours to get there). Cute stadium and yummy food though.
I think the Oakland Coliseum will be tied up in red tape for at least a couple of years. The split ownership is a big problem and will cause delays IMO. I don't see it getting demolished before 2028-29 personally.
I think your Guaranteed Rate Field prediction is spot on.
In the end, the White Sox move to the Chicago Suburbs.
15:56 Target Field already has a district around it. The Warehouse District has all the bars and restaurants and is just feet from target plaza.
Bingo. The other thing, without sounding like a homer, is the Pohlads have continued to make renovations and improve the park on a consistent basis, much like what homeowners should be doing. The issue is when a ballpark or home has no changes for 5 years, for 10 years, and then there comes a time where a huge investment is needed to keep things afloat (see Brewers).
People who go to Citi Field mostly say what a beautiful ballpark it is. Don't know how it is obsolete. As for a dome, there was thought of putting a dome on Shea back in the 1960s. The issue is the ballpark is built on a old land fill so there would be questions if the ground could support the additional weight.
came here to say this
I've been to 27 stadiums in my life - Citi field is a liveless dump in a horrible area. This is the consesus.
@@johnm8079 That is your opinion which is in the minority of what many people feel. Never heard Citi Field being called a dump. Shea was called that, but it was a place many Mets fans loved. The area is better than it was in the Shea days. Still a long way to go.
@@johnm8079Citi Field is not in a bad area.
@@ranelgallardo7031 Citi Field is not prefect but better and safer than say the soon to be former Oakland A's stadium of nearly 55 years.
There is literally no way the MLB would move the team out of Denver. Top 15 in attendance every year despite the team losing so much and no other teams even in the near vicinity. On this point your "I don't know" was very apparent.
I think Wrigley Field will NEVER be demolished, that’s a VERY HISTORIC BALLPARK, I think it will be around for eternity, you can’t demolish a historic ballpark like Wrigley, same for Fenway Park in Boston
Throw Dodger stadium in and you have the "Holy Trinity" of MLB stadiums.
Wrigley has Federal Landmark status so it won't be torn down
Fenway is now on the National Registry of Historic Places so it literally cannot be taken down. The Sox might move to an upgraded stadium but Fenway itself will always be there, as it should be.
@@Boyso5407 . Fenway can still be renovated as well.
Old Yankees Stadium was just as historic as Wrigley, and they demolished it in 2010.
The problem with the Angels is the owner Arte Moreno not the fanbase (avg 30k+ fans per game even with 9 years in a row under .500) or the city. They do need a new stadium in Anaheim tho.
3:59 If the Diamondbacks fail, the NFL Arizona Cardinals can have Chase Bank Stadium in Downtown Phoenix, Arizona or a new Football/Soccer Stadium right is under Chase Stadium
I’ve never been to Kaufman Stadium, but from what I see, it’s still a nice ballpark, it would be wrong for the Royals to leave there and build a new stadium in downtown Kansas City, the ballpark has been given a major outfield renovation, so I don’t see the Royals leaving Kaufman Stadium anytime soon, they’ll be there for many more years, I think
as someone who's at the ballpark right now, i can confirm that this place is awesome
The stadium is crumbling, the owners want a new stadium there have already released renderings it’s pretty much a done deal that the royals are getting a new stadium, I do agree tho Kaufman stadium is great all it needs is a small renovation and it’s good for the next 30+ years
Theyve released renderings of a new stadium a while ago hate to break it to ya
I think if T-Mobile Park renovates the right field upper deck into some sort of pavilion, that should prolong its stadium life. I’m sure they’re experimenting with the idea given that they put a deep dish pizza concession in the upper right field deck area that’s consistently busy every home game.
SF has the best ballpark in baseball. Wish they would just call it Mays Field and stop with the carousel of corporate names.
As someone who has been to every stadium, I can safely say Guaranteed Rate (Comiskey) is one of the nicest ballparks in baseball. There’s really no bad seat. The concourse is big. The food is the best in baseball. they have the scoreboard. Parking is easy (especially compared to some of the stadiums). It gets a bad rap. Most people who don’t like it haven’t actually been there.
that’s what i’ve been saying, i went for the first time last august expecting a dump but was pleasantly surprised, there might not be much uniqueness but definitely not bottom of the barrel
@@daultonlockett7856 Thank you. It’s just a nice, comfortable ballpark. No bells and whistles, but great food. And do people go to a ballgame for a swimming pool or for food? Nice weather 3/4 off the season. And it looks like a ballpark, not an amusement park. I love it. San Fran and Baltimore are my top two, but this is in my top 10 easily.
As a Chicago native and dedicated Cubs fan, I have been spoiled by getting used to Wrigley. When I went to Guaranteed Rate for the first time, I was kind of disappointed by how boxed in and screen filled it seemed. Of course, only knowing one of the most open air and old-timey stadiums doesn't help. The reason that it gets such a bad rap is probably because it only has one of the worst names of any stadium, and the overall Sox situation is not great.
@@bknsty14And that’s the problem. There’s nothing unique or interesting about the park. I think each park has to have something that makes it stand out. It doesn’t have to be as famous as the Monster at Fenway or the ivy at Wrigley but it just needs something to make it pop. There’s nothing wrong with being a simple stadium but in the long run I don’t think it will survive as long as it could have cause there’s no obvious reason to keep it in place.
I’m visiting all 30, I visited the Sox this year during a blistering day game. I absolutely loved Guaranteed Rate. To me, that stadium was made with the fan in mind. Best views for watching the game. Screen was big and bright. The seats were perfectly angled towards the playing field. The food was incredible, not just some lame ballpark food. I grew up in Angel stadium though, so literally every ballpark knocks my Sox off when I compare it to the Halo’s giant dump of a stadium.
Target Field has a lot more area to develop than you think. It's likely to be around for a much longer time than you stated.
Kaufman Stadium still looks great today! Has great atmosphere on TV!
I think 2050 for T-Mobile is way premature. If you look back at how bad the Kingdome was before Seattle approved the new stadiums for the Seahawks and M’s, the current park will be around awhile IMO. Unless of course the team threatens a move again. The state is pretty divided on sports spending…
Yeah those right field upper deck seats need to go.
The naming agreement for Busch is twenty years, so we'll see what happens. Cardinals have played in three ballparks with two names. Sportsmans Park and Busch. When they built the old Busch stadium home plate was delivered by helicopter. New Busch used part of the old ballpark. I don't have special knowledge, but I get the feeling Busch was built to last for a very, very long time.
T Mobile Park just had some minor renovations to make it really nice for all star week
Every year there is talk of a ballpark on the chopping block. It seems like yesterday the Chicago White Sox just got the New Comiskey Park (Guaranteed Rate Field or whatever the corporate flavor of the day is). Now they're in this situation again.
Not really yesterday, it is now 33 years old. Most dual-puprpose stadiums that opened in the 60's and 70's didn't last as long. A good example is the Kingdome, less than 24 years (1976-2000)
as an arizona born and dbacks fan, thinking about chase field getting demolished aches because there’s so many iconic moments there. randy johnson took the bump, jay bell’s 6th inning grand slam, gonzo’s single, 2001 world series, you name it:(
2nd edit: also it’s an iconic part of arizona, you type arizona on google, you get pictures of the phoenix skyline along with chase field. it’s vibes are just perfect and etc. the restaurants around chase field are iconic too. we have the iconic opening windows. plus it being in the middle of phoenix makes it sm easier for fans to get there, compared to scottsdale and tempe
I really like the location as well living on central Ave its a straight shot down the street id hate for it to move some where like Scottsdale and have to drive further out. Downtown is central for the whole valley a whole other reason for the city to expand the light rail.
@@Nachonacho602 yeah man
No one will pay for the Oakland Coliseum to be demolished. Expect it to sit derelict for decades.
The Coliseum and Arena will definitely be demolished. That land is prime..
Fenway 2.0 was considered before John Henry bought the team. A domed stadium was proposed in the sixties. Thank goodness it was spared.
I live in KC area, no freaking way Kauffman is getting demolished in 2027. What a joke....
9:19 “if cincinnati still have their team”their the first ever mlb team there is no way they would ever dare move. Their rooted in cincy theire here to stay. Thats like the montreal canadiens (the first nhl team) leaving montreal
Rogers Centre is funny. Its a huge part of Torontos skyline. They kinda cant demolish it. And it sits there like a concrete fortress. Itll just get renovated over and over.
Citizens Bank Park is just a classic, Its a hitter friendly stadium, beautiful skyline and just an all around amazing ball park
You should say which city and team plays each. Since all different sponsors named now.
Agreed.
At least list the historic name if the stadium had one.
Redevelopment projects have a funny way of dragging on for years. I have a feeling a few of the ones listed as demolished in the 2020s will hang around in a semi-abandoned state for longer than we think.
petco probably won’t be demolished, i think it’s a forever park
Petco is one of my favorite parks, and I've been to most of them.
knock them all down and build one baseball field that fits all the mlb teams in one big dome in the middle of the dessert. the dome will protect the fans and players from the radiation and the desert should prevent the swarms of locusts from disrupting the games. have it grandfathered in and have the seat positions adjusted, redo the upper deck and add some better restaurants
5:13 Why TF would the LA Dodgers need a retractable roof stadium? What a ginormous waste of taxpayer money that would be!
Air conditioning? Plus, in the spring, it can get a little chilly and damp at night, the way Candlestick was all the time.
@@guyfaux3978 Los Angeles doesn’t need AC. It has perfect weather most of the year. It’s too close to the ocean to ever get that hot.
I think a lot of these stadiums are going to last a long while. They demolished Forbes Field, Yankee Stadium, and Tiger Stadium, so nothing can last forever.
I could see the league requiring the Rockies to play in a dome somewhere down the road.
10:51 the SkyDome (including its roof) was built to last 100 years and knowing how penny-pinching a company Rogers is, they'll keep kicking that can down the road until it's condemned and then demand the governments pay for a new stadium. They bought the stadium for an absolute steal. Taxpayers funded it to the tune of $500M (chump change today but exorbitant in 1989) and Rogers bought it for $20M (yes TWENTY, not a typo) in 2004. So I'd say your 2065 prediction would be accurate if Rogers sells the team to somebody else between now and then, and the new owners can build a new stadium without going to the taxpayers.
Not sure why you would think T-Mobile Park will be put out to pasture before the other stadiums that are in its age range. There have been no serious talks about major renovations, and the building is still considered a crown jewel for stadiums on the west coast.
What is the attraction of Camden Yards?That small warehouse behind right field?
Check out the buildings in East Newark,NJ if you want to see something huge.
I’ll be long dead when some of these stadium get torn down.
We all will! L.O.L.!
DG, why all the Northwest hate lately. Saying Seattle will lose tehir stadium in 50 years is crazy. Yeah it opended in 1999, but they keep it up, it's a perfect location, it's up kep, it's beautiful, it lasts. I would say it's a ???? like the Giants and Pirates stadiums.
Angles are never moving out of LA you don’t leave a number 2 TV market for a smaller city like Nashville.. Both Dodgers and Angles will build something new in the near future most likely some kind of dome or retractable roof. But no way to the Angeles move. Angles have a generally decent TV deal so they are not moving and getting less. Its just been ownership that has been bad.
If they left Anaheim, I can picture the Angels going to the Inglewood area to be SoFi (Rams/Chargers)and the Clippers new arena and create a new super complex similar to say in Philadelphia.
Dodger Stadium's biggest risk is probably a natural disaster like an earthquake making it unsafe. The same would be true for Oracle and Petco. Having MLB move Colorado because of its altitude makes no sense when high altitude teams like the Diamondbacks and Athletics (if they move to Las Vegas) are in the same league and if a potential relocation or expansion into Salt Lake City happens some day.
If the Dodgers get a dome stadium they should call it the Dodger Dome
It’s hard to imagine how far some of these years are away. We will probably already be thru WWIII by the time some of these years hit. Heck we might not even exist by that time.
Why do we think so negatively about the future?
Relocate the guardians and bring back the cleveland Indians
If the Cubs, Orioles and Red Sox were to move, I don’t see it being demolished. I see the stadiums just bring a landmark.
The only thing wrong with Comerica Park is that the upper bowls are so far away from the field. In Tiger Stadium the seats were closer to the field.
I say also the seats are too tight and a lack of leg room as well.
I think Truist Park is more predictable. Atlanta can't go more than a decade without building a new stadium. The heat in Atlanta will cause the braves to move to Marietta into a retractable roof stadium in 2029.
I was thinking 2035 would be when they will get a new stadium and sale Truist to a college like they were forced to do with Turner field but I don't see them destroying it
Do you not realize that the heat is much more bearable in the Atlanta area than in places like Tampa, Houston, Dallas, and Miami because it sits at around one thousand feet in elevation. You definitely feel sometimes a ten degree difference in temperature between northern Georgia, including Atlanta, and southern Georgia.
There would be no reason to move into a retractable roof. Most games are near nightfall and the temperature isn't that high.
The Braves have their dream stadium, they ain't leaving. Truist and the battery is a money maker
@willp.8120 it isn't just the heat which can get into the upper 90s and sometimes the lower 100s but the humidity which can make the difference in temperature unbearable
@@knotadoctor1455 I live in the Atlanta area and have lived here my entire life, save times during college, and am currently 46 years old. I own a home in the northern suburbs of Atlanta. It rarely gets that hot. We recently did have a few upper 90d days but that is atypical. Where I live, the average summer high is about 88-89 degrees, with most hot days being no more than 92 or 93.
This is unlike Dallas with temperatures often close to 100 degrees, or Houston with constant upper 90s and even higher humidity.
In most summer days, the temperature doesn't even get somewhat hot until at least 1pm, sometimes 2 pm, and by 6:30 it starts to get cooler. A late day afternoon thunderstorm can take temperatures from the low 90s to 72 degrees within five minutes.
The Atlanta area isn't all that hot. Only if you are constantly in the heat of the day( about five hours) on hotter days is it even an issue, and even then the hot season is only from the last week in June to the second week in September.
In the Halo Universe Progressive Field (Home of the Cleveland Indians) still stands as of 2552. Noting they are in Cleveland one of the Brute Commanders asks “What exactly is a Cleve?”
Saying the angels leaving Anaheim is like saying Disney is skipping town too.
I feel like an article comes out every couple years that the Angels are planning to leave Anaheim for you name it- Long Beach, Industry, actual LA, somewhere else in the OC. I feel like the only thing that keeps them locked in that area are the Ducks across the street- but with how much the Ducks have been struggling with attendance, product on the ice, and their now aging barn, I feel like the Samuelis might consider moving the Ducks elsewhere eventually. As for Arte- hopefully that ******** will finally sell the team to someone who cares. One thing is for sure though. Angel stadium sucks. I just hope the Angels always stay in Southern California.
I'm currently at kauffman and it's really not that bad, it's honestly underrated. personally, i think you overhate it
Location is the problem. I think they need to rebuild it downtown.
@@user117831that is true, but i don't think location should determine how good a ballpark is
Why in the hell would Dodgers need a retractable roof? It’s LA. 70 degrees year round.
“70 degrees year round?”Tell me you’ve never been to so cal without telling me you’ve never been to so cal. But I’m there with you. The weather is way too good to have a roof. Stupid idea.
For the love of god please get rid of the Trop. It is a huge black eye for MLB. The fact that a ball can literally bounce off of objects and still be in play is ridiculous considering this is a professional sport. I would rather see the Coliseum stay for another 100 years then have to play one more game at that poor excuse for a ballpark. Stupid catwalks
Rogers Centre will last longer because in Canada, governments don't pay for stadiums anymore. Unless the Olympics comes to Toronto, it is going to have to be self funded.
I've never been to Rogers Stadium but it looks to be very well built.
@@ousamaabdu794 I have but when it first opened in the early 1990's. Out of the current 30 MLB teams here in 2023/'24, location wise is maybe the best. Near both of Toronto's 2 major subway lines and a regional train station that even has trains to Buffalo/NYC. Not to mention a major highway (called the Queen Elizabeth Expressway)that connects to other highways including the US border next to Buffalo. And finally Downtown Toronto including even the International Hockey Hall of Fame and shopping areas are within a 20-30 minute walk as well. Just my takes.
american family field (miller park) opened up in 2001
11:38 I vote Brooklyn, New York for the New York Mets with the Brooklyn Dome and New York Jets and NYC FC might rejoin Queens, New York
Right where the Barclay Center was built was suppose to be the location that Brooklyn Dodgers wanted to build a new ballpark.
Contrary to what you said, there are some social spaces on the Promenade (upper level) of Citifield. There's the Hudson Whiskey place and the entire Promenade food court. All they really need are some more large displays up in the food court.
I disagree with Angels Stadium needing to be demolished. It's old sure, but it's a nice experience. Half of that is California weather, but whatever. It's a perfectly fine stadium and I think it overachieves despite it's age. It's comfortable and the food is good.
Honda Center right across the street feels outdated, hell even Metlife is worse than Angels Stadium in my opinion. They Angels dont NEED a new stadium, but the obviously want one.
Can you do this but with the NFL
Minute maid is an awesome ballpark. It's not tacky at all
Good video. It's interesting to think about these things, glad we agree PNC Park will be around, (ownership withstanding).
1. Fenway will get replaced eventually and the Red Sox will build near the Waterfront. But the new development delayed that for a few decades, I'm thinking 2060 or so.
2. Dodgers will build a new stadium as soon as the Angels do.
3. Citi Field will outlast New Yankee Stadium.
4. PNC, GABP, Oracle Park, and Target Field will become the new Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadiums, lasting many decades
5. Orioles will end up shocking the baseball world and replacing Camden Yards by 2030
6. Wrigley will be the forever stadium, outlasting Fenway
what is with the retractable roofs? I enjoy the outdoors.
I’m working on those progressive field renovations! I hope everyone like them, it’s turning out great!
I think this is the only guy that calls twitter x
3:24 If American Family Field fails for the Brewers, the move into Green Bay Brewers new Stadium next door to Green Bay Packers Non-retractable Lambeau Field
miserable cardinals fan had a stroke trying to read this
It already makes no sense that Green Bay has an NFL team. At 108,000 in population there is no chance it would have a 2nd pro team. Madison with a population of 255,000 would at least make more sense.
Green bay is to small
It's Milwaukee or bust for Brewers. With renovations Miller Parks/American Family Field still have 30-40 years of use in it. It's a very solid ballpark that is about right for it's market.
This is interesting.
These teams can move around, abandon cities and their fans, seek greener pastures, whatever.
But absolutely NO public money should be used for stadia or arenas.
bro fenway lasting nearly 2 and a half centuries is crazy
Just like every video Ginger does... Talks about the Pirates and PNC Park as little as possible....
OK the joke was a Busch Stadium here. Will the naming rights still get changed before the stadium get demolished. Considering that’s the third building that has the first stadium name as people forget the last and years of Sportsmans Park was a Busch Stadium one.
Or will the Cardinals eventually go the route of the blues and after rename there’s venue every five years or so… Or the soccer team, who had to rename the stadium before it even opened
New stadiums don’t last that long anymore. I wish some of these stadiums last that long
GROSSLY underpredicting the shelf life of Truist Park. It'll probably be less than a generation before the Braves get buyer's remorse and want to relocate back downtown--or at least to within the city limits.
Why would the Braves want to move back downtown, when people are moving out of densely-populated inner-city areas with all of their problems, to more upscale and safer suburban areas?
Because these things are cyclical. Many of their kids will grow up in the suburbs, find them lacking, and make the tradeoffs to move back into town.
@@scotthersey4380 When the kids get older, get married and have kids, then they will likely prefer to move to the suburbs.
I prefer suburban living over inner-city living, even though I am not married and don't have kids. For example, I work in an older area in central Phoenix, which is dirty, crime-ridden, and has many homeless people. In Scottsdale, a suburb, it is cleaner, safer, the homes are a lot nicer, and you rarely see a homeless person. There is a variety of activities to do in Scottsdale, there are many events and excellent outdoor activities.
@@HighpointerGeocacher One's own preference isn't everybody else's. I live in a smaller city where the downtown is markedly cleaner and safer, and the suburbs are where you can find most of the crime. Moreover, franchises like K.C. have discovered exactly why locating oneself in nowhere-land isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Downtown Scootsdale would be a good location for a future Diamondbacks ballpark if the Diamondbacks need to upgrade from Chase Field. While Scottsdale is classified as a suburb of Phoenix, it is a relatively large city of its own, with a population of around a quarter-milllion, which is only about 50,000 less than St. Louis, a city with two MLB franchises up until 70 years ago.
PNC Park is a forever ballpark. It's simply perfect.
They will never tear down PNC Park! The Pirates will never play anywhere else!
@@412StepUp PNC Park may stay for a long time, but will the Pirates always be in Pittsburgh? Western Pennsylvania has been losing population for many years, so how long could the Pirates profitably remain in Pittsburgh if the area continues to decline, and there are other areas with greater population and prosperity that don't have a team?
@@HighpointerGeocacher Given the crazy economics of MLB, I wouldn't completely rule that out, however, there are several other MLB cities with population difficulties as well. To move a team which has been in existence in the same city since 1882, and in the NL since 1887, would be horrific.
@@Rondon216 I recently visited Pittsburgh and walked around PNC Park on a Saturday night when the Pirates were on the road, so there was no game. Looks like a beautiful park with statues of Clemente, Stargell, Mazeroski, and Honus Wagner. There are interesting things to do around the neighborhood, but didn't have time to explore the area extensively. However, the greater Pittsburgh area does feel significantly smaller, and definitely a lot older, than my current home region of metro Phoenix, which many think of as a "small market" but actually is situated in a county that has nearly twice the population of Greater Pittsburgh. The population of Greater Pittsburg is less than it was in 1960 and had declined in every census tabulation since 1970 except for 2020, when the population showed a modest increase from 2010. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Pittsburgh
@HighpointerGeocacher Excellent point about how Western PA has been losing population for the last 40 years..
I really think that tend might be reversed in the near future.. Western PA is very affordable and has great bones.. With many areas in the states getting outrageously expensive, I think that region will see positive growth by 2035.
"There's no way they'd demolish a 30-year-old stadium" But they did demolish basketball arenas in Charlotte, Miami and Orlando less than 20 years after they opened.
The Phils really did build a timeless stadium
This is a really interesting video!!!
Globelife Field is the same as Tropicana Field when Tropicana Field was brand new.
Every stadium in the world shall be destroyed during the Tribulation after the Antichrist is revealed.
You mean it was built without a tenant in the hopes of luring a MLB team, and resulted in six teams getting new stadia in their home towns by threatening to move to St. Petersburg?
The expansions in 1993 and 1998 were well-planned, as none of the new teams had nearby teams competing against them for fans (except for Tampa Bay, and Miami might as well be on a different planet), and all four of them were located in large cities which were still rapidly growing. Things didn't work out as well as everyone expected for the two Florida teams, but the Marlins would two World Series in their first ten years, and the Rays have been to the World Series twice.
WILL ANYONE MOVE TO PORTLAND!?
Sure hope Montreal gets team before them based on fans and history
Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium will live until the Big One hits
Which is any day now.
Dodger Stadium will survive The Big One. Only a small part of the stadium is free-standing.
The Angels already had a deal in place to replace Angel stadium before government found corruption and blew up the deal. That stadium is getting replaced.
White sox 2:55 lease is up in 2029. Imagine stadium will be demolished in 2030 or renovated by then
The trend of moving to suburbs needs to end as a priority. And really, people need to get out of this mindset that it’s inevitable that stadiums get demolished and new ones built as a standard practice. The only exceptions would be if they made the mistake of moving out of city centres and need to move back, or stupidly were in the suburbs to begin with.
I would love if they could lift up Tropicana Field and place it down in Tampa itself, because the Trop has a kind of cosy feeling to it despite it being a dome out in the middle of nowhere. There are other stadiums that are supposed to be better that I don’t get that feeling with.
Dodger Stadium with a roof? Are you insane? Never will happen.
The roof at the Rams’ Stadium is there for two reasons.
1. It’s directly under the LAX flight path. Keeps the noise out.
2. To allow that ridiculously huge distracting scoreboard to hang from the center of the field allowing for more seats.
There’s no reason to put a roof on that Stadium.
Also 3. The FAA specifically wanted a dome or canopy to keep SoFi stadium's lights from distracting/disorienting pilots approaching LAX.
@@elsongs Thanks for the additional information.
Crazy to think I’d be 80 when some of these parks are demolished 🤯
I think you're being way too generous with the longevity of modern stadiums. Most modern stadiums "need renovations" after 20 years, and are then "too old" after 30 years. It is extremely rare for a modern stadium to last beyond 30 years.
AT&T is already past 20 years also and almost nothing has been done to it except the bull pens being moved.
@scotttild The bullpen being moved _is a "renovation"._ In about 10 years, the team will be complaining that the stadium is "too old", and that they need a new stadium (funded by taxpayers, of course) in order to "stay competitive".
This is such a satisfying video 😂 thanks for covering all the stadiums
I think he missed Petco Park.
@@MontagnaMagica He covered it at the 12:37 mark.
It's really hard to predict because so many of the newer parks since the 90s are in great shape and might last a very long-time, but I know some of them will be replaced too which makes it super hard to figure out. The ballparks before 1989 when Rogers Centre opened up were cookie-cutter and obsolete that's why like more than 85% of them are gone today. Only Fenway, Wrigley, and Dodger Stadium remains although Dodger Stadium is the Shea Stadium of the West Coast, so that's probably gonna be replaced by 2050. Dodger Stadium just has more of an allure to it because its been on several TV shows and movies before. Kaufman is going to get replaced with a stadium in the city in a few years. A lot of these are unpredictable, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them survive into the 2050s.
I know you didn’t compare Dodger stadium to the dump that was Shea.
@@ramsesgarcia8461 Oh yes, I did, it's the same looking stadium except in the outfield. Dodger Stadium is trash.
Rogers Centre is being Renovated to give it another 10 years. The problem is there is NO WHERE to build in Downtown Toronto. They are in the perfect spot. Honestly the playmight be to spend two years in Buffalo and then build on the same spot lol
Sorry DG, I don't get it. How do people rank these things? I find almost all stadium rankings and the difference between classic and old to be completely arbitrary and subjective. Ive been to them all plus ones that have gone and some international ones. What is your model? I think the top factors are location neighborhood and things around it, weather/comfotability, views, public transportation, practicality over flashy, organic over forced, and cost.
I think there are a lot of classics here. My top 10 in order are Seattle, Houston, Arizona, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, San Diego, San Francisco, Baltimore, Minnesota, Miamii. Big honorable mention to Denver, Philly Toronto, Milwaukee as they just missed. I think Washington, Detroit, both New Yorks, Cleveland and White sox underrated, with all the new developments and with neighborhoods around the park. Future bubble stadiums are Cincinnati, Dodger, Atlanta,, Angel's, Boston,Wrigley and maybe Kansas City depending on how they all renovate and build up in the future. Oakland and Tampa are the only ones that need a whole new approach but could be classic at their sites if built up right but right now are the worst, Kansas city is close to being on the worst lisr..
The Diamondbacks leaving Chase Field would finally solve the Coyotes' decades long saga for a new arena.
Rogers Centre (or Skydome, as I know it) is getting another renovation over the winter, hence why the Jays will be playing on the road for most of April 2024. Shapiro says it'll be in phases, and since this will be phase 2, I assume there will be more to come. I don't think they'll be changing the roof due to our winters just being brutal.
Although 2065 seems reasonable, considering City Council has been rumoured to have a proposal for a new stadium on the waterfront. For what? No one knows, that's why it's only a rumour.
Bro... Dodger Stadium is not going to be replaced with a retractable roof or dome. Lol.
"As we get more evolved." LOL. The US and the West are headed into territory that no one alive has any historical memory of experiencing. People will be sitting in lawn chairs to watch baseball in 2060, not in luxury dining suites 400 feet above field level in 360 degree leather recliners.
The Seven Fat Years are coming to an end. Forever. Ballparks in the US prior to the economic boom created by WW2 had splinters in the wood bleachers. That's coming back. For the love of the game will determine your devotion to the sport, not your love of sushi burgers and 7th-inning stretch massages.
As a Red Sox fan, I don’t think Fenway will ever be demolished but if they do build a new stadium, I’d be disappointed if they made a replica field. I’d want something completely different but also unique.
When will MLB realize that Wrigley and Fenway are the crown jewels of their world?
Both have evolved with the game. The stadiums are loved by their fans as much as they love the teams that play in them.
Look at Chicago, Go to Wrigley Field and become immersed in the environment. Then, head south to the White Sox ( name changes every ten years) and sit in a giant box out in some manufacturing slum area. The park is 20ish years old, and we see sketches of the stadiums that will replace existing locations.
Baseball has become a game of greed, and has lost it's soul.
You need to do one for NFL stadiums!
Wrigley Field cannot be torn down since it's a registered Federal National Landmark status
Soldier Field was also a National Landmark, and you know where that went.
Dodger Stadium will stand the test of time.
I agree
My beloved Dodger Stadium isn’t going anywhere. Are you kidding me? We’ll touch at least a century