Why Men Don't Preach the Bible | Dr. Steven J. Lawson & Costi Hinn
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- People often pass dozens of churches on their regular drives around town, yet struggle for months (even years) to find a Bible-teaching church.
In this video, Dr. Steven J. Lawson addresses with Costi Hinn why preachers today don't preach the Word of God.
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We moved to a small town and I remember asking God "why are we here?", and then we found our church. Our Pastor teaches and preaches the Bible and I'm beyond thankful that God led us to this Bible believing church, especially when they are so few and far between. There are churches everywhere and on every corner, but to have a Pastor that does expository preaching is truly a blessing.
That's a great story. I like to read the comments section. Thanks for sharing.
A blessing indeed! Can I ask though, are they cessationist?
@@NicholasPaulFranks What is that?
@@sonnypruitt6639 someone who believes that the gifts of the Holy Spirit “ceased” with the passing of the Apostles, and that therefore the sufficiency of the Scriptures are at odds with the gifts being in operation in the Church today.
Am I correct in saying that there are different theology schools teaching different doctrines? I heard a charasmatic pastor say they opted to do their train in a private college that didnt teach the traditional theology degree. Isnt that where the divide begins and where strange interpretations come from. How are these learning institutions recognised?
Don't you just love Dr. Lawson?! God's truly changed my life and devotion through a few men, and he's one of them 🙏🏿🔥❤️
Amen, I couldn't agree more. Dr. Lawson is God's special gift to his Kingdom, and to US.
Too many churches, too many pulpits, but lack of God fearing honoring men able to preach the Holy Word of Yahweh without compromise. 😞
"preach"?
You mean obey.
Anyone can preach.
You people don't want to OBEY GOD'S SIMPLE WORDS.
@@DamirVidovic-pf2pkWhen a Pastor obeys The Lord, he is expected to preach, teach, exhort, and share from the Holy scriptures with fear and trembling.
If i was a Pastor i'd rather 10 people who want the Word, than a thousand who don't.
I just want to go to church and hear the WORD
You want expository Bible preaching. I think something close to Bible bus ministry from J. Vernon McGee. It's on the radio. Where the preacher fears God and wants to get the Word out.
@@mrtdiver yes..I know the teacher I have been listening to makes me sit forward in my seat...it stirs me and I feel close to YESHUA...you don't get that in any church I have been to....except a messianic church I went to a few times but they were small and merged with a larger that is to far for me to drive. So I have bible study daily except one day a week. I feel at least I am full at the end of the teaching.
Memorize the Bible and meditate on it like psalm 1 says. 😮
@@ErranPierce that's one thing I'm not able to do believe me I've tried. But when I need assistance HOLY SPIRIT brings up the WORD I need.
@@mrtdiver that's not "fearing" God.
God's Word is the Bible.
It's Simple and easy to understand.
Just OBEY it.
But you people refuse.
Read Matthew 25.
And the rest....
Being trained is one thing, being led by the Holy Spirit of God is another thing. Above all, humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, and he will lift you up at the proper time.
The two are not mutually exclusive. It is often through training that the Holy Spirit reveals that a person has not been led into ministry.
Again, ministers should only focus on study and preaching the Word, and a thorough seminary training in Greek and Hebrew avoids misinterpretation of the Word which leads to dangerous doctrinal error!
@@kwfinken Jesus calls Every Follower of His into the "ministry".
Pastors are wolves in sheep's clothing.
We stay away from them.
You sound prideful.
Do you obey Matthew 25?
@@timothysaye5535 wrong.
God's instructions are simple that a child can understand them.
People just don't want to obey and want their "ears tickled".
Hypocrites
It says that in last days people won't put up with sound doctrine and will,amass teachers to give them what their itching ears want to hear. It IS a heart issue. The true sheep are longing to be fed. Praise God for the shephereds, not the hirelings, that faithfully preach His word. And unapologetically!!
yes!! and i believe we are in the last days.
Hi Caryn how are you doing
Good point definately, and SCN possibly...
Extremely well said on all points!! I have been on staff at two churches and pastored two. At one of the churches at which I was on staff, the popular pastor who drew large crowds would only spend about one hour preparing his messages. He never exegeted and expounded upon Scripture but read a text that reminded him of exciting and entertaining stories he claimed happened in his experience. Most of the crowd loved it. I moved on.
Thanks for sharing this story.
Expository preaching is the way. We need to glorify God by teaching his whole counsel. And we do that by actually going through the entire Bible.
Must people don't get that; both laymen and pastors. They would rather tell a story and sprinkle "proof texts" (verses) over it to validate their sermon. The modern day sermon is wrong; wrong teaching. Pastors say this: "The Lord laid on my heart... " And they proceed to tell us a personal story, which is their sermon.
When is the Lord going to lay on your heart a book of the Bible, rather than your personal story?
I wonder how many congregants of this church will be in Hell for eternity?
@@mrtdiver and who obeys Jesus?
And who loves Him with their whole heart and their neighbor as themselves?
Do you?
Of course not.
Do you try your best to do it?
Of course not.
But you talk about...
People go to church to hear a sermon they claim sounds good but they don't obey Simple, Easy instructions.
A child can understand and Obey God's Word much better than an adult. An adult wants it their way rather than God's simple way.
Do you obey Matthew 25?
@@mrtdiver we stay away from church buildings.
Jesus would condemn the church goers today like He did the Pharasees
@@bigsteamy you need to PREACH to YOURSELF and DO as the Bible says.
Try DOING that.
SO much truth in this video.The churches that are jam packed with people because they like to be entertained and hear messages that tickle the ears that aren't Biblical are nothing but false convert factories.God can use anything to bring people to true repentance and faith.However, those that are true converts God will also lead them out of the church to a more Biblically sound church.
Mr Lawson speaks the truth about as clear as anybody I've heard.
Love hearing the truth from Dr. Lawson and this ministry.
So encouraging to hear this. I think the definition of 'Biblical preaching' has been watered down. A preacher can have a topic they want to talk about and because they included a couple proof texts in their sermon people will marvel and say 'What a Biblical preacher'.
Instead, a true Biblical preacher will actually preach the entire book, and let God's word teach and address various topics as it will.
I like to call it the difference between teaching 'from' the Bible and actually just teaching 'the' Bible.
Why not preaching The Gospel?
The bible is abaut many things/times/covenants.
The Gospel is all about Christ.
The bible is not Lord.
Christ is Lord.
@@bernhardbauer5301 yes I totally agree. All biblical preaching points to Christ.
@@HickorySpringsKY
Not all scriptures are considered in the new covenant.
Acts 15:28-29:
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That you abstain from anything offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if you keep yourselves, you shall do well. Farewell.
Abstain from
1.anything offered to idols
2. from blood
3. from things strangled
4. from fornication
This can be found in Acts three times.
Living in the Bible Belt and being a member of a "country church" my whole life and now having pastored 2 I can tell you that the problem down here is more about churches wanting guys that brag about their own ignorance in the guise of "humility". Most of my life I've heard people criticize guys that are well read within our circles. I literally had a woman tell me that she would get up and leave if she knew I was going to preach because she knew I was going to get into things she "didn't understand". It's unreal. The irony is the things I was going to explain were things that her pastor had personally ASKED ME TO EXPLAIN to his congregation because he felt it was a little above his paygrade. LOL! The reason smaller churches have guys that are just not that Biblically deep is the fact that most of those churches are "ran" by families with a historical connection to the church and men with deeper knowledge are a huge threat to those who think they're "in charge". I can promise you this happens very frequently where I'm at. Sadly. I'd love to hear the experiences of others in smaller Baptist churches in the south but I guarantee you it's very similar to all I've just said.
Oh look another Jesus following Guitarman
@@andrewclemons8619 Proud to meet you!
Reformed theology is Satanic.
God's Word is simple.
A child can understand His Word.
Pastors complicate it so we stay away from pastors.
In Northern Ireland we also have quite a few pastors who don't preach through whole books. They pick passages 'as the Lord leads them' and preach those. Often it's those with fundamentalist tendencies who are suspicious of anything intellectual or theological.
People are very touchy today. They need safe spaces. They don't want hard, Biblical preaching for this would offend them. They want a show, to feel good, and so hire spineless men, and yet we expect them to have a spine.
Thank you!! This is SO spot on! What is SOOOO frustrating is that most of these churches claim to be biblical churches. The text is read and immediate depart from there, never to return. Yet they claim, "We preach the Bible!"
From pulpit, to elders, to pew and even to seminary, desperate urgency is needed to return to the word and to reform the church.
As long as Sunday is the status quo, NEVER expect reform. It's not my fault the vast majority of professing Christianity is the deliberate subject of 1 John 2:3-4, and I blame clergy, while the Bible is accessible by all, and not ONE WORD about Sunday being holy or, "the Lord's day". When you can explain why this catastrophe exists, you will have a disciple. Is it Satan?
The sad part is when you want biblical teaching/preaching, full counsel of God, prayer and you can't find it...locally..😥
We recommend checking out the TMS (The Master’s Seminary) Church Finder (tms.edu/find-a-church/). While we cannot vouch for every church listed, it is a helpful start to point you in the right direction!
Very hard...that's true
It's in HIS WORD.
Look to Jesus.
Read His Word.
It's Simple.
Don't Complicate things and thus disobey Him by going to a church building and pastor.
@@kristenspencer9751 Reading His Word and obeying is Not Hard.
Your soul is hardened if you need a person/people to teach you something better than the Holy Spirit.
Excellent, excellent, excellent. Thank you for this!
Thank you, Dr. Lawson. Well said.
Amen. Good conversation absolutely the truth though.
Just shared with my pastor as encouragement. He told me that he got it just as he was adding a part to his sermon on a similar issue.
Thank you Sir awesome episode the study of God ibalu lekile. ❤
Powerful statement Dr Lawson 🙏
Excellent video. Thank you.
Wow Amen so true thank you Jesus for true men of God who speak and preach God's truth 💯God is Faithful always 💯💯
Continue Proclaiming Truth, Defending Truth & Living Truth🧎🏾♂️❗️🧎🏾♂️
Fully supported!
Great great humble man oh Christ really love Christ and bible ❤
Oh wow praise God! Costi Hinn and Dr Lawson! Love you both!
So good !
Hi joanne how are you doing today
That's so true! One of the 'churches' closest to my home is SUPER WOKE🤮🤮🤮 Every time I drive by, they have banners openly showing support for blm, lgbtq+, new thought, or promoting something demonic like the enneagram full of new age symbolism. The blasphemy and outright disrespect they show is absolutely disgusting! Praise God that I'm part of a church family that actively pursues Holiness & Church discipline! Our Pastoral staff welcomes open accountability upon themselves, and exposits directly from The written word of God. They constantly encourage us to check their teaching to what the Word says. By their actions, they make it crystal clear that God is head over this church!! I don't care that I have to drive 20-30mins one way to get there, the teaching is what I'm after. And it has been worth it every time!
Sooo sad😂
@@kevinacres1699 Repent
@@richard8242 because its sad that soo many churches are worshiping this world's system then the true living Christ. I will take the scars of my savior over accepting this worlds doctrine and rebellion
@@kevinacres1699 I am sorry if I misinterpreted your comment. Christ is King!
@@richard8242 amen. Christ alone! No problem brother. Stay strong and faithful.👍
We left a church we’re the lead pastor refused to allow his younger pastors to teach ,Godly men who loved the Lord but the senior was afraid of losing his $ control. We now attend a church with a great senior pastor who allows his junior pastors to teach often so they have the opportunity to grow in solid bible teachers
Totally agree and truth is most people really don't believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ although they want the rewards so prosperity teaching is much more appeasing to their desires. But deny obedience or lack self discipline.
Excellent video.
You Sir are speaking Truth as I left The United Methodist Church due to Female Preacher(she was a Associate Pastor/before had Female Head Pastor. )Also vote/stance on Homesexual Pastor/Marriage. Many are called,but few are chosen,God bless you both!
Wow this was good
I love dr Lawson- and all the Ligonier fellows! Plus J Mac too!!!
He’s right on!!
I basically got ran off from a SBC church I pastored after two years of expository preaching. I’m young, wear a suit, have a pretty wife with obedient children, went to a SBC seminary, and absolutely hate church growth schemes. I believe the Word is sufficient. The majority of the church liked me a lot, but the three families who literally run the church did not like the fact that I had a MacArthur commentary and am reformed. Just sad, but the church was dying. Mostly older people who wanted Billy Graham style ministry. But, thanks to God’s Grace alone, I am at a church that is growing and our doctrine/theology class I teach on Tuesday packs the gym for three hours on Tuesday nights! I am very blessed to be where I am at, and I do not ever want to forget that if weren’t for the grace of God I’d be in a dead church playing traditional church service for the spiritually dead who said the sinners prayer at 10yrs old.
At what age do you think people should stop going to church? Is it 55 or is that too old, or is it 64 and you are out. I know this sounds dishonest as a question but clearly it has merit.
This is an arrogant and entitled story. I don't even call it a testimony. Shame on you.
@@richard8242 you’re offended over something that was not said or implied. But let’s face some reality, if the church has 30 people and they’re all over 75 years old without having a baptism in over 20 years, that is a dying church. If your church is small church with only elderly attendees it’s time to ask what will your church look like in 10 years. Oddly enough the church I now pastor isn’t even 20 miles way and is 125 years old, has elderly and young families with no problems and one of their requirements of me was expository preaching, something the last church knew nothing about. You can be offended all you want that your church is dying or dead and only has elderly people in it, but it’s not the cultures fault, pastors fault, or anyone else’s fault, it is the fault of those sitting there every Sunday refusing to make any changes and refuse to do anything to actually further the Gospel in a personal and meaningful way, while thinking their church can grow if they just hire a young pastor with a family.
@@lkae4 it’s nothing short of the truth. I am sure you’re offended because something I said must have described your own church. Might I offer a bit of advice, ignore everything else you might be thinking and make it a point to share the Gospel with someone today and invite them to go with you to church tomorrow. Instead of wasting your time being offended for no reason and as making assumptions about a pastor you don’t even know who faithfully preaches the Word of God, just do what you’re commanded to do by Christ and go make a disciple and maybe consider doing something to actually help your church.
@@christophercunningham5434 Are you a good person?
I would like to also highlight the responsibility of each member of the congregation, individually, to pray regularly for the Spirit filled study and preaching of their pastors and for the godliness and holiness of their pastors. Two good books to help with that are How to Pray for Your Pastor by Derek Brown (Master's Seminary grad) and A Plea to Pray for Pastors by Gardiner Spring (highly recommended by John MacArthur). The Power of the Pulpit and The Duties of Church Members also by Gardiner Spring are also very helpful. It has to be a regular and fervent part of our prayer lives.
So so true !!!
Amen to that!
God make us a true church!!!
Such wisdom just off the cuff on the spur of the moment! This is so true. "The fear of man will prove to be a snare." Richard Baxter's "The Fear of Man Pleasing" really put me in my place as a pastor. It's a short fiery read helps to insulate the pastor of fearing man and instead "fearing him who can throw both your body and soul into Hell" (Matthew 10). Who cares what the world, or even your flock think if you are truly submitting to Christ the King? Wesley was thrown out of churches for telling the truth. Thomas Boston's flock hated him for 8 years before God brought revival!
The lack of fear of God is the number one determining factor in why pastors are weak and timid, and why churches hide from truth. I believe the lack of fear of God is the reason the church in the West is so ineffective. How can the fire of God come down if his ambassadors are afraid of the people more than him?
How can you be a pastor? You couldn't get Mathew 10:28 right. It's as if hell is a place where the unforgiven live in torment for eternity, instead of the truth. Hell, is the GRAVE, the pit, the abode of the DEAD. 10:28... DESTROY, not remain living. Never mind. Your Sunday keeping convicts you as it is. Sue your seminary for malpractice, you will win.
@@eltonron1558spot on, the dead have died! There is no hellfire place of torment, it's a satanic teaching to scare people and to smear God's name
@@eltonron1558What are you talking about? He quoted it correctly. Please learn sentence structure before spewing accusations.
@oscarfabi_ Small problem. He did NOT quote it correctly.
He completely missed the part about who can DESTROY, body, and soul, in the grave(hell).
The difference is ,the truth. You die in hell. You don't go on living, as if the wage of sin is the gift of life, to suffer and burn for eternity.
@@eltonron1558 Ok I see, I'm not used to the english translations since I'm Swedish, I apologise. But do you really think that he is denying that? I don't see it, we all know the wages of sin is death. Our only hope is in Christ and to repent and trust what He has already accomplished through His life, penal substitutionary atoning death and bodily resurrection.
I think more and more churchgoers today want to be entertained.
No one was bored with the sermons recorded in the bible... if people preached like that we'd have change
I think you are right about the seminaries. I have heard multiple n people say they came out not knowing anything about the Bible. Also and/or they went to some liberal school who had non believing teachers and liberal theology.
Any man, who the Father calls to preach/teach must examine themselves daily. Knowing that we are held to a higher account! Always emptying ourselves of self and allowing, God the Holy Spirit to fill us and use us for Gods glory. I’ll not enter the pulpit without being fully immersed and saturated by the Holy Spirit. And then boldly proclaim the Word of Truth as He brings utterance! Praise Jesus for this insight! Hallelujah
How does one become fully immersed and saturated by the Holy Sprit? What does that mean? Is it a feeling? Is there a protocol you follow to accomplish this? If so, where do you find this protocol?
No preacher does that
@HaroldZwingley I'm still waiting to hear what he means by completely saturated with and fully immersed...I don't think he can tell us. How does one accomplish this? How does one know when they've become fully saturated and fully immersed? Where is the Scripture reference for this?
I'm not trying to be a jerk about this. I'm a pastor and have been preaching and teaching for over 15 years. I agree we need the Spirit's anointing to preach and teach effectively. But the statement to me sounds like religious jargon that doesn't have an objective meaning. We do have a Scriptural reference for studying the Word to show ourselves approved. That can be taught and explained to all believers and is Scriptural. The above statement sounds pious and most of the church would just "Amen" without even thinking about what it means because it sounds spiritual. But can you teach us how to become fully saturated and fully immersed in the Spirit? If so, I would like to learn to make sure I am before the next time I preach...
First of all, a preacher must be born-again. A preacher must be called by God to be a preacher. A preacher that is God called must get alone with God daily and seek His Face and Praise Him and Worship Him and ask Jesus to come and give him the words to say. A man of God that is annointed by God will preach what the HolySpirit leads him to say. A man of God does not preach ichy ears. A true man of God will want the HolySpirit to have his way. A preacher should be led by the HolySpirit not by education, man's thinking, man's ways. A man must let the HolySpirit have His way! We all need Jesus! It is Jesus that breathes life and speaks life into our souls. It is only Jesus that can make His Word alive to us. There is scripture that says 11 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness but denying the power there of: from such turn away. Jesus can do anything. We serve a Mighty God! A lot of preachers and people have a religion they do not have a personal relationship with Jesus. The answer for all us is to Get alone with God and seek His Face, Praise Him, Worship Him, give Him Glory due unto His Name! Keep asking Him to come and speak to us and keep Reading His Word. Keep calling upon Jesus to come and fill us up with His precious living water. We must keep talking to Jesus, keep calling upon Him until He comes. Jesus can come and restore our souls. Jesus can soften our hearts that can get hardened. Jesus can breathe hope back into our souls. He can heal the broken hearted. He can lift the heavy burdens. When we become thirsty, he can come and fill us up with His precious living water. When we get hungry, he can feed us with the bread of life, His Holy Word, until we are filled. JESUS IS WORTHY TO BE PRAISED! ALL GLORY GOES TO HIM! Let us be looking for Jesus to come and speak to us each day!
Martin Llyod Jones was a phenomenal preacher of the gospel. Still reading on him. Believers can learn from great saints of old.
Soli deo Gloria
WELL SAID.
Great and edifying coversation. I'm guessing Costi returned that red tie back to Lawson after they finished! XD
Love u both.
I'm so thankful this has never been my Christian experience for the last 25 years of following Jesus. I think even some of his comments aren't biblical like hiring outside the church and seminary. I've been blessed with elder/pastors who lovingly shepherd and preach the word unashamedly pointing us to Jesus.
May the peace of God be with all. I agree with you pastor that when we start to pick pastors just because and they aren’t lead by the Holy Spirit then it does end up becoming a disasters. For a few years in my
Denomination (we are Evangelical) we had Pastors who had family members who said “Hey I wanna be a pastor just because” just to have it as a title and the Pastor would bring it up to the churches council and say yeah he fits and due to the shortage of pastors they would put him and this went on for a couple of years until they started realizing that alot of the pastors they had in the pulpit were not Spirit lead and some took advantage of the church and the people and the money exc… So now although we still have a shortage we are more blessed to have God Called and Spirit filled pastors who preach the Bible than someone just to fill that roll. God bless.
Where I live, I see two things:
1. Pulpits wanting to relate with the congregation instead of God.
2. Congregations bored with God.
Pulpits are so afraid of preaching meat and offending the babes in their churches. I even dislike the term "life groups". They spend more time discussing how they felt about the sermon than digging in the Word.
Worship bands perform more than worship, many come to church not expecting much and they leave the same way they came. The congregation acts like nothing changed because they have no reverence for God. Simply, they don't know God and all they want is assurance they are not going to hell.
Tozer said it...
The gospel is so watered down that if it was poison, it would not kill anyone and if it were medicine, it would not cure anyone.
American churches, in general but not all, are Laodicean to the core. They have no idea Jesus is knocking on the door.
Very well put.
My previous pastor seemed to read a lot of his sermon so me and my husband wondered if he got it offline. I put in title of message and bible verses in Google search and sure enough he did. He read nearly the whole thing in “his” sermons. He only stayed at our little church 2 years. Glad he left. Our next one that we have now preaches things not found in bible. We may leave this church we’ve been to for 21 years. 😢
Do you have the full length version of this interview? Instead of breaking this interview up into multiple videos could you post the full segment? Love Steve Lawson.
Steve is right. It's more about entertainment than edification and pastors have to use their watches as a timer like they are part of a show.
You hit a 600 foot home run with that assessment!
Do all pastors read the Bible every day, or read all the way through it regularly? How much time everyday does your pastor spend with God in prayer and in His Word? How about you? Are you as disciplined as you need to be in that area?
Excellent discussion. Another possible reason why men don’t preach the Bible could be improper pressure from Deacon or Elder Boards or major donors.
Amen.
I love this. I ask this as well and one of the reason why I am so selective is I want the gospel taught the way God would teach it. I do not want all emotions, or God will bless you if you tithe 10% to the church or speak in tongues and the list goes on.
What is the gospel?
The gospel is wrapped up in the birth of Jesus, His sinless life, Jesus crucified, Jesus resurrection, and his ascension.
Obtaining salvation by faith in believing Jesus died for the atonement of our sins and has risen and is sitting on the right side of the father. We ask that he comes into our lives and make us the people he wants us to be.
And than the work of sanctification begins
@donalddunbar2721 I was asking the Rogue, but since you bit, what you described as the gospel, is actually the message/teaching of salvation.
Christ declared what the gospel is, and Christianity doesn't preach it. It preaches what you just preached. Why can't Christianity preach the gospel as Christ TAUGHT it?
Mt. 24:14
Mk. 1:14-15
As long as Christianity preaches salvation as the gospel, Christ will NOT return. It's maddening. The gospel is in the 2nd verse of the frigging Lord's prayer, and Christianity can't get it right.
You either, in the face of scripture. Why can't Christianity read for itself what the gospel is? I HAS to be the influence of Satan, long before our generations, to declare a false gospel, which is ANOTHER gospel, being called the gospel.
Or maybe Christianity is not able to read?
@@eltonron1558 I think you are asking a question you know the answer to. The gospel’s were written by the apostles who were inspired by God through Christ to teach His word in truth, in love without compromise. You appear to be looking to debate or tell me what is the right or wrong answer. Your answers like mine cannot be judged righteously by man which is why we call them opinions. Only God is the ultimate judge of what fair and true. Stay in Christ
@RogueRepublican You stated you want the gospel taught as God would teach it. Now you know why I asked. It certainly is NOT being preached by status quo Christianity. I want it taught as Christ taught it, and there is plenty of scripture in which he calls it the gospel, while the status quo, completely prevents his return. It feels an impossible task to ask Christianity to preach the gospel as Christ taught it. This former atheist, is as frustrated as that guy crying from the wilderness. That guy that declared the gospel before Christ did.
I agree. I left a church this year in part due to the pastor’s putting down the Bible. He says we should uncouple from the Old Testament among other things. It’s just a rah rah place. Not a place to get deeper in the word.
Wow..
Most elders are not called by God. God equips whom He calls. It's that simple. They do not need to go to seminary. The best training is God's Word and putting it into practice believe it or not.
If they were to go to seminary, where would you go? I would venture to say that there are very few trustworthy Bible colleges / universities. I seen the downfall of my own Bible college - Multnomah in Portland, OR. They began to produce female preachers and pastors (like there is such a thing).
@mrtdiver I agree. I'm sure there are good ones, but I don't believe any elder should be disqualified based on a seminary education. People learn differently.
Agree 100%
I’m a Christian, and I run into the issue of debate. When preaching the word, people always want to debate you, and I hate debating, and despite reading the Bible for years, I still don’t understand the deep theology needed to debate people on Christianity. I find agnostic people and atheists much better at debating than myself.
this is true my sister lives in Western Victoria and the majority don't even mention Jesus, wandering why they are empty except those that have been in the church for 30ish years and all new people entering there church tradition nothing to do with the Jesus or the bible, religion.
HAHA ADDITION BY SUBTRACTION. I love that
The gospel of Jesus Christ is lived.
I haven't been to Church since my Pastor passed away. His Church was a Bible teaching Church. Some of these Churches are looking like the world these days. There is one Church here in Florida that is Biblical, but it is in Jacksonville and I live in Tampa. I have been trying to find Biblically based Churches here in Tampa, FL.
I live in a small town-1500 people. There are three churches. A catholic ‘church’, a very progressive Presbyterian church (pastor’s daughter is transgender), and a First Congregational church that lacks solid convictions and the pastor lacks a robust theology and focuses on outreach more than shepherding the flock.
We need less churches. I pray every so often that God would decrease the churches in number and establish one or two solid churches per town.
And yet: Acts 4:13
Preachers also need to understand that God uses whomever he wants acording to his will and desire.
Never been called to preach is a very important issues, too many churches few called and trained preachers.
This is detrimental to all people if they refuse opening the pages in the bible and being instructed and corrected by it. On the other hand, how do we deal with discipleship in a large congregation? If men appointed in position are nowhere near having the experience of Timothy, who was exhorted by Paul on how to orchestrate and govern the church of God, how can a church be set into place through discipleship without having to draw the pastor out of what he is truly intended to do, and without draining him- that he has no time to get into the word himself?
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Most preachers don’t preach the word because they see the success of pastor who don’t; furthermore, it forces them to wrestle and deal with difficult subjects that offend people.
Agree wholeheartedly with Steve Lawson ! Didn't know I would at the age of 73 ! I think people these days like a 'Busy Church and Pastor '. Many might say I'm wrong , but I will accept that because, I might say they wrong and so we square up 😂 Give the Man a break !!!
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Success becomes the golden calf they dance around. Pragmatism is the philosophy of the day.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 2 Tim. 4:3. If you don't tell them what they want to hear, they will find some one who will.
Bang on .. leadership in America dont know what a preacher is so they look to charisma, and "movements" to find thier next future leader ... we can pick out all these things but how do you find these people who are preachers ... that is the great mystery that LAwson and Hinn cannot figure out ... and tho put gas on the fire ... these guys tear down the present preachers and teachers ... this doesnt help either. So in summary they can see the lack but do not have the solution or the means to help those who may truly want help. There are many who are in ministry and want to learn but they are mired in red tape and in unfair expectations of the people they minister to and the church orgs they are in. Maybe those who are looking for bible based teaching/are complaining and critiszing should be the ones getting trained up in the word of God. These are your next generation preachers and teachers ...
Good interview, but there was no need for the distracting background music
The only thing I didn't hear clearly and maybe it was a point he forgot to mention, and that is, most preachers simply don't know God because they don't spend time with God. It is impossible to spend time with the True Living God Jer 10:10 and then not get up in the pulpit and preach the Word of Life 1 Jhn 1:1. Amen
The New Testament model is not only a plurality of elders but also to raise up leaders from the congregation. To create a search committee (headhunters) to look for a new preaching pastor (President and/or CEO) from afar is to expose the folly of our corporate church structure. It's no wonder the world mocks us.
@mchristr ---> It is amazing how faaaaarrrrr away from the original New Testament, 1st century churches/assemblies/chapels/congregations the modern churches / denominations have gone. Church elders and deacons are supposed to come from the congregation. Seminaries and College degrees are NOT mentioned in the N.T. at all. "Search Committees" are a human invention.
From what I hear coming out of seminaries - theologian scholars that are more the libertarian side who knows what kind of leaders are being molded.
Much of what was said has some truth to it. The preaching of the Word is forced to compete with a Society raised on entertainment styled by television. And music caters not to worship but a culture raised on emotion and drum beats. But the Eldership must also share the blame because they have not engaged in their proper duties such as visitation and church business. There is also an emphasis on bigger is better so we need dynamic Pastors who image Tony Robbins and not Peter, Paul, or John the Baptist. And yes, we need fewer counselors in the pulpit and more men of God called to be Preachers! Yet let us be fair, it is difficult to be the master of all things when the Body of Christ isn’t helping to shoulder the load. How can one Preacher do two services on Sunday, a Bible teaching on Wednesday, and oversee all the other church business. Truly, you get the Pastor you have helped to create. What you eventually windup with is a burnt out Pastor preaching recycled sermons that do not meet the real needs of the Body or himself.
It's always interesting to hear a preacher committed to the doctrine of the meticulous sovereignty of God respond to a question without consulting his own theological position. Dr. Lawson often repeats the statement that all things are determined by God, agreeing with the late RC Sproul, that every molecule moves by the decree of God and that there are no maverick molecules in the universe. God is sovereign and determines everything. The most consistent, accurate answer to the question, according to Dr. Lawson's theology, is quite straightforward: Men don't preach the Bible because God has determined that they don't. Meticulous sovereignty allows for no other conclusion.
People have lost a sense of what church IS! It's not a social club. It's a place for believers to gather to focus on Christ, and to be built-up in their faith, to mature in the things of God. A pastor is supposed to help them comprehend their faith, to know who they ARE in Christ, to learn what the word of God means and how to put it into practice in their lives. To love and to forgive each other. A pastor has to warn, as well! It can't be all "positive". (although to warn and admonish IS loving!). The pastor is not a CEO and few spend any time in prayer.
How odd that only I gave your comment a thumbs up. But you are correct.
Well spoken.
This is great but I have an issue with long sermons. I was trained as a college lecturer and was taught that students can only absorb circa 15 minutes of information at a time.
Sorry Steve but the analogy of the concert for 4 hours vs an hour of preaching doesn't gel with me.
A one hour church service with 20 minutes of quality teaching is better than a two hour service with 80 minutes of preaching as only a portion will be retained.
Better to have two services and a mid week one also all with 20 minutes of teaching and it will be retained.
I've seen some elders who have in a pinch preach powerful sermons. Let us remember the power of the Holy Spirit and that "adequate training" can never usurp the power of God.
God will use such circumstances, but should that be the norm? God rescues us in a tough situation, but that doesn't mean we should intentionally get in the tough situation. The Holy Spirit can and does work through Godly preparation and study.
Jonathan Edwards 'Sinners in the Hands of an angry God.
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World Record Holder. Who has the Gold Medals? or crown?
The one who lays it down before the Lamb Of God, slain before the foundation of the world.
Gotta be repentent, otherwise endless lament.
@@kwfinken "godly preparation and study"?
That's where you're putting man's ignorance above God.
God's words and insurrections are SIMPLE
You people just don't want to OBEY.
Agreed.
The problem today is people in Church don’t take their souls seriously, even after they except Christ as Lord an savior. And when you add to that thinking that the Pastor doesn’t take his congregations souls seriously either , you end up with a dumbed down kind of preaching that only covers the surface and not reaching the soul. I guess this is why I love John McArthur so much, because he knows what the mission of the Pastor is, and that’s as David L Cooper so eloquently said in his book, The World’s Greatest Library Graphically Illustrated. “Preach the Word”!
For ever, O Jehovah,Thy Word is settled in heaven”. Psalm 119:89
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Being a preacher is supposed to be a calling, a passion project, not a job. My dad's church prides itself on paying their preachers the highest in the region. It's ridiculous. He goes to work, and they don't even divulge his address so you can visit him.
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Someone once said, "The Private MUST proceed the Public".
At the same time, Paul did not have a Bible, and hardly ever put in the Old Testament. He elaborated very topically, and used scripture as a backbone to the topics and real world issues he spoke about. Preaching and Teaching are different gifts according to the Bible. We need more Bible teachers, but we also need existential preachers like Paul.
Cant a church find one member out of there own church to pastor the church? what have the Pastors been doing then? it was supposed to equip the church for works of ministry but most churches have look out side for a pastor to bring in
The music in the background doesn't add anything to the conversation but is distracting
Do story please
I don't know a single biblical preacher. The fact that the concept of church is lost to all of them is astounding