Installing a Barn Door Style Sliding Door on a Bathroom
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I've never installed one of these interior sliding doors or as some people call them "barn doors". There originally was a pocket door on the left side of the entrance to the bathroom that the homeowners wanted to get rid of. So this seemed like a good solution. I didn't think there was much to the installation. The rollers bolt to the door. You mount the rail to a header board that gets screwed to the wall. Make sure the rail is level. Then hang your door on the rail. Not very complicated so what could possibly be difficult about this.
There are a few things to deal with that are a little out of the ordinary. To begin with, the door has to be oversized. The reason for this is that the door has two kind of blanket the opening. As a result, the door probably needs to be a minimum of 4 inches larger than the opening for the door. We had a 32 inch opening and so a 36 inch wide door was perfect. However, when you mount the header and rail above the existing trim on the door it requires that several inches of material be added to the length of the standard door in order to make it work. Or you have to have a custom door built which obviously adds more money to the project.
Another question I had that wasn't addressed very well by the instructions or the template was how high does the rail need to be from the floor which means you have to figure out how high above the door do the wheels need to be mounted. So I sort of eased my way through this process by mounting the header where I knew I needed to mount it and then securing the wheels to the door where I figured they needed to go and used the template as a reference. Then I could put the door in place and make a pretty good guess at where the rail needed to be mounted. I first mounted the header board to the wall. Next mounted the left side of the rail to the header board then swung it up to it's position on the right side and drilled a hole for that bolt, being careful to make sure that I mounted the rail level. The hole in the rail on the right side was a little more of a slot than a hole, so it can be moved up or down a little bit to fine tune the placement of the rail.
With the rail in place and secured, the door with the rollers attached can be set on the rail and you're ready for final steps on installation. That involves putting some hardware in place that mounts to the end of each side of the rail and locks in place to keep the door on the rail. There are also a couple of small cushions that are screwed into the top of the door and keep the door from bouncing off the rail if it is slammed into the stop hardware on either end of the rail.
Now, why does our door drift about a foot from left to right when it is in the closed position. The rail is level. The wheels are secured to the door. Some of you may have a better explanation than me about this but my first thought was, "oh great, this thing is going to be a pain to keep adjusted." The fact that the door only opened about a foot led me to conclude there must be a slight dip in the rail through this area. It's possible that if the door were heavier, that might help with some of this. But in the end, after talking to the homeowners, this is what we came up with. First, this is the bathroom door that primarily needs to be either open or closed. Since the bathroom is completely remodeled, it's most likely that the door will be left open except for when is in use. So the fact that the door tends to want to slide to the right or in the open position is not necessarily a bad thing. We just need for to stay closed when it needs to be closed. After some thought we came up with this solution which works great. I took a couple of magnets and embed them in blocks that were then mounted on the backside of the door and up against the trim on the right side of the doorjamb. So when the door gets near to the closed position the magnets take over and draw together and in so doing, keep the door closed. Plus the magnets are really never seen. With the door guides mounted to the floor, the magnets have no chance to do anything except be drawn to each other when the door is closed. We need to come up with a sliding bolt type lock for inside the bathroom since this is a bathroom door. But that's an easy fix.
Got rid of a pocket door for a barn door. Mind boggling.
Yeah, nice to have the wheels and hardware out where you can get to them rather than buried in a 2" slot in the wall!
@@RustyDobbs Well I suppose I can understand that but if the pocket door was functioning properly than I don't understand the purpose.
Pocket doors SUCK!
The rail may be set up like that on purpose. If you flip it upside down it would always remain open or closed as opposed to drifting to the middle. The middle would be high rather than low. Would recommend checking the rail to see if it’s straight
We had the same problem. Take a grinding wheel to put a groove at the top of the rail for the wheel to sit in. My carpenter did it on both ends of the rail so it would stay in the full open or full closed position. No more phantom rolling.
Very interesting solution, Cheryl! My compliments to your carpenter! That never crossed my mind but will be in the toolchest for future installs. Thanks for the comment!
Damn. Solid idea. I’m hanging a dual set tomorrow and sweating it. If it ends up like this I’m definitely doing the grinder lol
Yessssss!!!!!!!
Great idea...thx 👍🏿👍🏿
I did something very similar on my last barn door install. Good solution
Wow! Those magnets were a little bit of genius! Simple, yet hidden, solution!
That was one of those 'necessity mother of invention' things! The ultimate problem was that the door was too lightweight for the hardware when the air drafted through the doorway so that's what caused it to drift open. About the time I start to think I am smart, I realize the reality is I am more lucky than anything most of the time! Thanks for the comments, Darcy and Maja!
Holy cow!! I would have never in a million years thought about bolting one side of the railing and THEN swinging up the other side! I was in a bit of a panic as to how I was going to do this by myself! Great video!
It’s funny you bring that up because I honestly don’t remember having a good reason for hanging the rail from one end and swinging it up! That was my first barn door install. I think now, since I use a laser, I mark the center point of the headerboard and rail and drill my first hole in that area which creates sort of an airplane propeller effect! Not sure it matters as long as it works! Good luck and thanks for watching, Just Looking!
@@RustyDobbs No problem! Kudos to you for making it actually easier if you just think outside the box! Definitely an "A-ha" moment for me lol!
Great idea using the magnets. I will have to remember that
Thanks, David. I think the saying goes, "Necessity is the mother of invention." I had to come up with something!
@@RustyDobbswhat kind of magnets did you use? I’m having a problem with my door hitting the trim when it closes.
@@gamerjack1432 I buy them from Lowes or Home Depot typically. The big chain craft stores will also have a good assortment to choose from as well. I just try to gauge the size and strength for the purpose I need them for on a case by case basis. I would assume you are thinking of using the magnets to repel against each other to solve your problem? That should work.
You're a very good teacher and I love the way you explain your train of thought. It makes sense when you explain the steps in detail. Magnet solution was brilliant. Thank you very much.
Hey, thanks Frank! I appreciate your comment very much. Glad you got something out of the video!
Nice work Rusty!
This is honestly one of the best channel's I've ever found on UA-cam.
Great content with humour 👌
Thanks for the kind comment, Feyangel23! I appreciate you watching and glad you are finding the videos helpful!
100 percent what I was hoping to find when I searched. Many, many thanks and good wishes from the UK. Marion
Great to hear the video was helpful, Marion! Thanks for watching and greetings from southwestern US!
omg the magnet idea blowing my mind and the oversized door as well Iam more confidente to install a slidding door now THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU I forgot the mention the explanation is perfeeeeeect
Glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
glad i saw this video. i will ask my husband to watch this and i hope the magnet solution will be the answer to our problem.
Great Mary Ann! I hope it works for you too.
My contractor (who happens to be my hubby) put one on our master bath, it turned out beautifully! I love it!
Great, Sandra! We contractor guys are sometimes handy to have around! Thanks for the comment.
When the door is closed do you see a gap where the door meets the trim?
The magnet idea is great. I just bought a new town home that we would like to rent out in a few years and the master bath room door is just in the way. This barn door idea would free up some space in a smaller bathroom . Thanks
Thanks for watching, Jessica! Yeah, barn doors don’t require the space regular doors due to swing on their hinges, so they are good options for situations like yours. Good luck with your installation!
Great channel, Rusty! I spent a couple decades growing up with my Dad doing home remodeling on the East Bay Hill’s above Oakland, CA. Many of my Dad’s innovations would have made UA-cam history back in the 1960’s and 1970’s had UA-cam not been 35 years into the future!
Omg! Thank you for the magnets tip! Genius and would never have thought about it. My kind went straight to hook.
Thanks for your comment, Jeff! That was one of those ‘light bulb’ moments for me about using magnets. Worked out great and that thought had never crossed my mind before about using magnets in that way.
@@RustyDobbs Hey Rusty! I love the idea also! Can you please tell me where you got the magnets, what brand they are, maybe a link? Thank you so much!
@@erinengstrom655 Hey, Erin! Actually, a good source for magnets is pretty much any of the big name stores like Lowes, Michaels, etc. I think I bought the magnets for this project from Harbor Freight. You are just looking for a size that works for your parameters that has the strength you need. Good luck!
Thank you for showing us the bewares of this new fangled item. I think one of these is going into my carport-turned-into-master-suite. I'd like to see how you mounted the lock on the inside since I'd just be taking an inexperienced stab at it.
Thanks, Bryan! Not sure how much help I can be for the lock. I did make one for the owners that looks kind of interesting ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html , but did not provide a whole lot of security which was not that big of a concern for them. Good luck with your project. I'm sure it will turn out well!
solved my problem, I find this Chanel super inspiring ! The use of magnets is so great👍👍👍
I appreciate your comments, Raj! Thanks for watching and I'm glad you find my videos helpful!
I appreciate this video! Never fails that instructions often omit some very helpful and critical things (measurements, etc.) to know in a project. Thanks for sharing!
You are so right, Becky! Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comment!
Nice fit. My tuppence worth on the sliding door is a slight dip in the track. Solution flip the track over then the door will slide open or closed depending if it is over the rise in the middle. I plan on fitting two sliding doors soon and was thinking of getting the track bent slightly in the middle (only about 1/8th to 1/4 over 6ft6) so door self closes or self opens
That's possible, 1988dgs. One thing we figured out was that we had a pretty good draft from the air conditioner vent in the bathroom coming through the opening. The wheel hardware was very smooth and it ultimately was the air that was moving the door, since it only opened about a foot. Anyway, the magnets worked great! Good luck with your project!
Great idea using the magnets. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Phyllis! I appreciate you watching!
Oh I love the magnet idea! That is exactly what I want to do!
It works well Sharon and it's easy to do! Thanks for the comment!
This is GREAT! Moved into a small home with no room for bathroom door. This is a perfect fix. Thank you for making this video.
Terrific, DL! Glad you found it helpful! You may want to oversize the door just a little for better privacy if you are in tight quarters. Typically there is a 3/4" or so gap between the door trim and the barn door. Good luck on the install!
Smart! Thanks for sharing
Thanks, danman! I appreciate you watching!
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!!!!!
This is exactly what we ran into installing a barn door for a bathroom door!
Yeah, Rok, the wheels for this particular hardware were really smooth, like the bearings came off a skateboard or something! We concluded that airflow from an air conditioner vent in the bathroom was what was causing the door to move about a foot. I haven’t run into this issue since that job using several different brands of hardware off of Amazon.
Just slightly loosen the lags in the middle, push it up and tighten so that there is an ever so slight pitch in opposite directions. If there isn't any "play" in the hole on the rail, take it down (or do it before you install and over size the hole to allow for it.
Good idea! Thanks for the comment.
Remove top trim. Square off side trim. Set your header where old top trim was.. no need to add to the door. Dress out your header to match the existing trim.
wow the magnets😃great idea!
Thanks, Paola! I appreciate you watching!
House settling, uneven floor. Same issue in our house. Maybe add some weight conspicuously...
Awesome solution
Thanks, Neptali, I appreciate you watching!
Thank you, I purchase a modular home and the door opens inward rite into toilet, so this will work perfect 4 me! Brillant!!!
Great Karen! Good luck with the project!
U mean a house on wheels?
Excellent problem solving exercise, very workable result. ☺
Thanks, Hank! Yeah, often jobs present challenges that cause you to think a little 'outside the box'! I was happy with this solution, but ultimately, the customers were the most happy, which was a good thing! I appreciate your comment!
ive noticed some rails have dips or a twist and even if its level the door could be off balance causing it to go eather way what i do is put some drag on the alignment bracket on the bottom
Yep, as with anything in construction, AReal, the secret to making a job work out is being able to come up with ways to fix things that aren't perfect, like imperfections in rails.
They make soft close for sliding doors now. Not only will they hold the door in the open or close position, they will keep it from bouncing off the bump stops. :)
Thanks for passing on the info, Manny! I appreciate it! 👍
I was try to think of a way to use my existing door adding spacers use on point. That is exactly what I will do.
Yeah, Mocha, that should work and will look fine. Good luck!
my guess is that if you flip the bar flat over flat, not end over end you will get a hump instead of the valley or dip you describe. The hump will help keep the door open and help keep the door closed. I hope that makes sense.
Nice job! Could you have flipped the top rail over? if there's a slight bow in it, it may cause it to wander closed instead of open. I'm not sure if the hardware allows that though. Thanks for the informative video.
Yeah, Jeff, I think that may have been possible but we didn't consider it at the time. I actually think the issue was that we used a hollow core door and it may have been too light for the hardware. The door only move about a foot and if the door were heavier, that old inertia principle may have kept the door from drifting. Thanks for the comment!
“You can’t really see the magnets. “
It would absolutely drive me insane every time I used that door.
That’s just me
Obviously that's not me, Josh, but I do understand people like you. 😀 I did another video like this a couple of months ago and this time didn't need the magnets! You may enjoy it better Thanks for watching anyway!
Very helpful. I want to install 6 in my home and this video just gave me the confidence to get it done. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the comment V COE. Good luck with the project!
so with this type of door you can leave all the wood trim around the original door? I got the idea yesterday to use this type of door from my kitchen to my small laundry room that will eliminate the space an open door takes up inside the small laundry room. Glad you showed it can be done with a colonial door, which is what we have around the rest of the house.
Yes, the new door cleared the door trim by about 3/4" after installation. I used a standard hollow core colonial door from Lowes... very inexpensive. I needed to add about 3" overall height to the door so I split the difference and added 1 1/2" to top and bottom of door. Cut pieces from a 2x4. Other dimensions that might be helpful. I used a 36" door to cover the 32" opening which worked out just right for a bathroom door. Most expensive part was the hardware which was about $140 I think, also from Lowes. Good luck, sound like a good idea!
Rusty Dobbs how did you secure the pieces of wood to the door? Just glue and screws?
@@hiya_how_areya6436 probably wood glue as well as screws
Magnets! Brilliant! Great video...thanks!
Thanks Bman310! Yeah, turned out to be a pretty simple fix after I was kind of concerned about how to deal with the issue. I think that the main problem was that the door was so light since it was a hollow core structure, that the air flow from the air conditioner was actually causing it to move. But the magnets did the trick!
We put cabinet silencers near the front of the rail. So with a little more push it stayed opened or closed.
That's a great idea, Tina! At first I didn't understand what you were referring to, but I got it. Yes, I think the felt ones would probably work well. Thanks for passing along your solution! 👍
I would like to see what you did for a sliding bolt to lock the door when in use. Thank you. Maybe a video of it and how it works.
Here you go, Charlotte! This was kind of spur of the moment, so it was probably more interesting to look at than secure when it was all said and done. But the homeowners liked it! ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html
Cool vid! I'm installing my sliding system in a few weeks for my closet... hope it works
Thanks, cm legend! Good luck on your project. I should have a new video coming out tomorrow that sounds like a lot like what you are doing.
I think a larger gap at the bottom of the door will release air pressure.
I think what we discovered, JMack, is that the door was very lightweight for the hardware where the rollers seem like they came off of a skateboard! They were smooth rolling! Ultimately, it was a draft coming through the door from an A/C vent in the bathroom that cause the door to move just about a foot, so your idea may have some merit! But, the magnets made the customers happy!
to fix the sliding open problem the correct adjustment is to drill the wheel bracket holes through the door larger, on the right side. You then raise the right side up and tighten the mounting bolts.
Thanks for sharing. I have 2 room doors in my home that I’m going to replace with the barn door.
Good luck with that project, Deion'na! I appreciate you watching!
very intelligent to use magnets
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Thank you!
That dip in the rail was at the center where it is weakest and thus bends slightly down. I would drill a hole at the center and attached it to the wall with a screw.
But the solution of having positive stops is better. Just put something slim on the rail that the rolls can roll over but takes a bit of conscious effort to do. One for the closed position and one for the open position.
Thanks Mark. I think what we ultimately determined was that we had a very lightweight door and hyperactive wheels on our hardware along with a pretty good draft from the air conditioner vent in the bathroom that moved the door open about a foot. But the magnets turned out to be a solution that everyone was happy with. Thanks for your comment.
Thanks. Agreed the manufacturer does a terrible job of detailing the nuances of installation. I got screwed by the undersized height issue as well.
Thanks for watching, Matthew, and for your comments.
Magnets....what a clever idea!
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Great video and suggestions!
Thanks, Happy! I appreciate it!
Thank you for sharing the magnets with an excellent idea I have found a real nice interior door half for the door I'm getting ready to hang thanks for sharing I look forward to hear from you bye for now your new friend Ken happy Thanksgiving
Thanks for your comment, Ken and I appreciate you watching! Good luck with your project!
Uhhmmmm....if I can't find the stud to mount rail, I need to figure it out...👌 BTW, did you figure out door drifting, magnets???%$ yeah right. Thanks for video, learned a lot.
Thanks for watching Dave! If you have a wood frame house, studs should definitely be there!
Hello there I was watching your video and I noticed when you were installing the header board why didn’t you just remove the top trim and lowered the header board that way you didn’t have to add the extra inches to the door just saying and you could have painted white that’s what I would’ve done but you did a nice job like the idea of the magnets.
Yeah, there are lots of ways to approach the trim, Fernando. We were matching the trim and door style for the rest of the doors in the house. To the left of the this opening a few feet is a double patio door going to the backyard. I'll keep your idea in mind. Never have tried it! Thanks for watching!
Smart idea with the magnets
Thanks, Mason! It has worked out quite well! I appreciate you watching!
Great.....thankx
You're welcome, George! Thanks for watching!
For anybody not doing a 1990s style bathroom like this and wanting a barn door, it is far better to simply build a door than to buy one and scab on to it especially if the door is textured because in person you will see it. Also hanging the rail absolutely level is incredibly important and cheaper manufactured rails can sag and have insufficient hardware so avoid those. If you like the door to stop in a particular place the way to do that is to simply take a rounded file and put a small detent at the location of the rollers where you would like the door to stop.
Good suggestions, Daniel. The door we used was an exact match to the original door package for the house so the owners preferred this approach. I recently did another video where we built the door out of solid alder hardwood with stain and finish. No doubt that is also a great way to go.
I had the same “dip” on a project and I just flipped the track over so the dip was UP. Door full open or full closed, and no drift. I thought it was a manufacturing defect or just a bent track and adjusted accordingly.
I never really thought about trying that, Sam! The wheels were so smooth for this brand of hardware, it seemed like they came off roller blades or something. The lightweight door and a little A/C draft through this door opening were enough to cause it to drift about a foot but the magnets actually worked out well. I'll keep your suggestion in mind for the future! The last barn door hardware I installed had wheels that seemed to have a little more friction built into them so the drift issue never was a problem. Have one more to do in a few weeks so we'll see how it goes. Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Rusty Dobbs, I’m currently working on a bipart barn door (2doors that meet in the middle) and I’m going to use your magnet trick to “click” them together when closed. Thanks for that great tip!!
Really nice idea!
Thanks Eric! I appreciate the comment!
You didn't put bolts in middle weight of door is bending rail so door moves a bit
Thanks for this video...
Thanks for watching, Sal!
I'm thinking about installing a sliding door in my bathroom. We have a lot of space in the bathroom which is not used accept to allow space for the door to swing open.
Yes, Kmemu, the barn doors can be a good option for bathrooms. You just need to realize that you do give up some privacy because they do not seal the bathroom completely closed like a regular door does. So, they work better in areas like a master bedroom bathroom where they are not near main living space.
The magnet was a good idea!
Usually barn doors are heavy. Using the hollow door probably didn’t have the weight to keep closed. Did you do anything for sound? The gaps on the side would let noise through. Could be annoying if one is sleeping while their significant other is showering, getting ready in the morning.
Yes, we determined that it was probably air flow from an A/C vent that was causing the door to drift. It only moved about a foot. A heavier door would have eliminated that. The funny thing about your other comments is that this was a master bedroom and the original construction included a double sided fireplace in the wall to the right of this barn door. We took that out as a part of the bathroom remodel. So the homeowners had to be aware that if they were using the tub they could be seen from the hall outside the bedroom door. They had put a curtain on the fireplace glass inside the bathroom. So, to them, this change and the barn door gave them great privacy compared to before when the fireplace was still there. I guess privacy depends on what we are comparing it to! Thanks for the comment!
Thanks Rusty. We’ve added an addition with a master bed and bath and I want to use barn door as well. I work evenings and my hubby works mornings so I designed our master closet inside bathroom, to avoid early morning noise of him going from bathroom to closet, but want to make sure noise doesn’t travel if we do use barn door. Glad it worked out for the homeowners.
Yeah, I think if you use a solid core door and try to minimize the gap between the barn door and the door jamb trim, that's probably the best you can do to help eliminate noise. Will not work as well as a hinged door, but may be enough for you once you are used to it. The barn door is certainly an updated look. Good luck with it!
If the bar has a slight bow, could it be flipped so that the door drifts open or closed instead of halfway?
Yes, that's an idea that never crossed my mind! As I recall, there was no distinguishable front or back to the bar. It may not have solved the problem but it certainly would have changed the dynamics. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
That would be clever. Have the bar bent in the middle to where the hump is facing up. So the door wanted to stay closed or open. Not in-between
Rusty Dobbs good man just a thought the door its self is not evenly weighted when manufactured
All of these type doors, whether pocket door, barn door, or shower door (barn/serenity style) have the same concept to keep the door from moving on its own. The wheels, or brackets in older styles, can be adjusted because level, isn't always level. On the barn styles, you'll either need an allenhead or T25 bit to loosen the center screw on the wheel itself, then turn the wheel (like in this case, left wheel needs to be lowered) then tighten back. You may also need a smaller allenhead for the pin-hole, to keep fittings in place as you turn wheel, otherwise when you tighten down, the plastic adjuster will move and you'll lose your adjustment when you tighten down). If this isn't an option, adjust the header. Magnets don't hold up well over time, esp a door that's used often. I can't tell you how many times I've had to replace or alternatively fix a magnet issue.
I never considered trying to adjust the tension on the wheels, Sussy, so thanks for that suggestion. These wheels were definitely free wheeling! We had a draft from an evaporative cooler inside the bathroom that was moving the door open by about a foot. The magnets have worked well and been in use for about five years now. The homeowners are friends that I would have heard from if there were issues with the magnets. Appreciate your comments and thanks for watching!
@@RustyDobbs No problem! We don't learn tricks of the trade unless we're told, shown, or screw up til it can't be screwed up anymore (best path to experience). Now, as far as the magnets, my opinion is subjective. It all depends on the Contractor. Unfortunately, if you want something done right, you have to..... you know. If you do what you love, you never work a day in your life BUT if you love what you do, you'll do it better than anyone else. 👍
@@sussybaka551 Couldn't agree more, Sussy. I always appreciate people who take pride in what they do. Being able to create with my hands is the most treasured gift I have. Lots of people over the years have helped me get better at it.
works for any room!
since the end of the track has a slot like you said then move that end slightly higher until the door stops drifting.
Another barn door video that does not show installing the door guide on the floor or the hardware for opening the door from the inside.
Very nice
Thanks Melissa H!
If you flip the bowed the other way rail then it would keep itself closed or open
geniuse
Great video, thanks! I wonder if air pressure had anything to do with it, like the A/C running caused a higher air pressure inside the bathroom which caused the door to slightly open during its escape. Just thinking out loud. :-)
Thanks, Justin! You pretty much nailed it. There was an A/C vent in the bathroom that was creating a draft through the opening. Because we used a hollow core door, the light weight allowed the door to drift about a foot. A heavier door probably wouldn't have moved. The magnet solution worked out great so it wasn't something we needed to change.
The lock om the inside of the bathroom would have fixed that issue easy and the lock will slow an intruder from finding you.
That helped as well Andie! ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html
The magnets did the job, too! Thanks for watching!
Thank you or this tutorial I can't wait to use this for my bathroom door. I did have a question did you ever figure out how to do the lock on the inside of the door? that's my struggle right now
Hi Brittni, thanks for the comment! Yes, on the lock for the barn door. Here is the link ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html to the video or go to my channel in the video list. You'll see the lock video was released about a week after the barn door install. Good luck on your project!
Brittni Torres hello did you completely completed I need some information plz help me
Can the rail be flipped 180 degrees? If so, then it would seem the middle of the rail would be slightly higher than the ends and the door would either stay shut or stay open. Just a thought.
Maybe, Bob. But ultimately it seemed like it was a combination of really easy to roll wheels and a draft from the air conditioner ducts passing through the doorway that would cause the door to move about a foot. The homeowners loved the magnets and they worked great! Thanks for your comment!
great video, I like the sliding door concept, but I would like to hang the door from the ceiling instead of using the barn door hardware. Would you have any advice for ceiling hung interior doors?
Yeah, FlyingHog, I'm thinking that using track door hardware for closets is one option that would be relatively inexpensive. Pretty much with that approach, you would be trimming out at the ceiling to cover the metal tracks. I'm not sure about any other ceiling mounted hardware without coming up with something custom. Good luck! Thanks for watching!
Was looking for something else... looks like you sort out problems pretty good on the go. Installed the barn door, came out great. But did not anticipate the huge gap on both sides... and it is for a bathroom. Ever come across trying to close the gap and make it more private?
Yeah, Fred, the dimensions of the the barn door hardware drive a lot of what you encounter with gaps after installation. You can go to a thinner header board to move the door closer to the door trim and even use a thicker door trim. In this case, we had a 36" door covering a 32" door opening. The funny thing about this job was that before the remodel, there was a double sided fireplace to the right of the door opening and the tub was directly on the other side of the fireplace. So that added a whole other meaning to lack of privacy! The owners were delighted with the amount of privacy they felt they had after remodel! I guess it's all a matter of perspective. This was also a master bath so the bathroom itself was very separate from the rest of the house. Thanks for the comment!
Good luck with the smells escaping
This installation is in a master bathroom far removed from common areas in the house, plus the toilet is in its own small room in the bathroom with a regular door and exhaust fan. But you would not want to use a barn door for the guest bath next to the living room or dining area!
Will I need longer screws to go through both the header and wall to hang the barn door?
You need screws that are long enough to reach into the studs in the wall or the door header in addition to passing through the sheetrock and your barn door header. In most cases, about 2 1/2" screws should be more than enough.
Can you please tell us what is the easy fix to lock this style of door? We have a slider between the toilet and the bathroom. We have been able to add hooks on one side of the door, but cannot on what looks like your entrance to the bathroom. Thanks.
When you first hung the door on the rail you were missing the middle bolts. Did you take the door off again before putting those middle bolts in? If not you may have bolted the rail down while it was sagging ever so slightly in the middle from the weight.
I hear your reasoning, Scary Fast. I'm not sure it would apply here because the door was actually a hollow core door that was very lightweight. In fact, we ultimately decided that reason the door moved was because the air flow from the air conditioning was actually pushing the door because it was so light. I think a solid core door would have put enough downward force on the barn door wheels, that the door may have stayed put. Thanks for the comment!
Flip the rail over longways. So now it will have a high spot in the middle instead of a dip, and that way the door will tend to stay closed all the way or opened all the way.
Thanks for the suggestion Seaton007! We pretty much concluded in this case that the hollow core door was a little light for the hardware, so the draft of the breeze from the a/c through the doorway was causing the door to move!
Good job. Subscribed.
Hey, thanks David! Great to have you watching!
Rusty,
Great video...iam running into the same thing on the door I need to add about 3" spacer, how did you attach to the door? That looked great.
thanks,
Bill
Thanks for watching, Bill, and for the comment! I just cut two blocks that I embedded the magnets in. One flushed out with the door trim and was mounted to the wall. The other was thick enough to hook up with the wall mounted magnet when the door was closed. It was attached to the back of the door with a screw and a little dab of silicone!
I would need to install the hanging barn door in my bathroom because there is not room in the hallway for the door to slide. I cannot seem to find pictures that would show me how this would look from the hallway. Also, would a lock work with the door mounted from inside the bathroom? Thanks so much for your help.
Yes, Paula, a barn door could be mounted inside the bathroom from an installation standpoint. I always caution people though about using barn doors near more public areas in the house. You really do sacrifice privacy installing this style of door. And, there would be a way to make a lock work with the barn door installed on the inside of the bathroom.
Wish this showed the inside view as well as hardware install to lock 😟
Sorry about that, Bret!
This is awesome. But what I'm really curious about is how you made the locking mechanism work.
Thanks, Pinch! Not sure if this is what you are asking about but here is a link to the video on a lock for this door. ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html
Your installation is amazing, i have encountered the problem is the balance when i install, is there any simple tactics that the barn door can be vertical stand without leaning inwards.
cloud run his door has a guide with rollers on it. Some doors have a channel along the bottom that a guide runs under
Question. Can you use this barn door style door way on a den that you want to convert to a bedroom if you have crown molding around the bottom of the walls?
Not sure if its been said but just tighten the casters a little and that will correct the issue..
Thanks for the idea, Mark! One thing we did determine was that the hollow core door we used was probably too lightweight for the hardware. We found that when the A/C was blowing on high, the draft through the doorway could actually move the door as well.
Lift the trac on the right side then plum the door
What we figured out was that the wheels on the hardware were lightning fast, like they belonged on roller blades or something. We also had a pretty strong flow of air from a swamp cooler vent inside the bathroom through the doorway. That combination was enough to push the door open about a foot. The magnets solved the problem.
I wonder if the bar comes Crowned from the factory? you could have had it inverted.
Good job nonetheless I plan on installing a couple of these in my place. But I'm going to build my own barn style doors.
Yeah, Jason, I think the bar was pretty true and was installed level. What I ultimately concluded was that if the door were a heavier solid core door, that would have helped. The drift was only about a foot or so which was puzzling. Also, there was a pretty good draft from the air conditioning through that door opening and when coupled with the light weight door probably was the explanation.
It’s called earth rotation centrifugal force.
Could be, Brian, in the very broad general physics explanation. It also didn't hurt that there was a pretty good air flow from an A/C duct in the bathroom through the door opening and those wheels on the hardware could have worked great on a set of roller blades! 🙂
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Good thought there my comrade. O doubt.
I can't find a video that shows inside the bathroom view of the sliding door and how it looks, locks and works. : (
About as close as I can get, Christl, to your question is in this video where I made a lock for the barn door in this video. ua-cam.com/video/QSpgQabibmw/v-deo.html
I haven't explored it, but I understand that there are more lock options for sliding doors these days due to their popularity. My suggestion for barn doors on bathrooms would be in bedrooms that are away from the more public areas of a home. It's a bad idea for a hall bath next to a living room, for example. You lose a lot of privacy compared to a typical door installation. Hope that helps!
@@RustyDobbs That's a huge help! I am looking for options for a downstairs bathroom that will be in my laundry room. I think this will work perfectly. Thanks for your videos and assistance!
door opening up was because bent strap rail was hung upside down. Hence the center was low. Flip it over and door will stay shut or full open.
Thanks for the comment, Bryan.
I say the door is either too heavy or too light for that particular rod. Remind me of making curtains, if you dont put some sort of anchor at the bottom of your curtain it will never hang right when using heavy material. Just my opinion!
You are right on the door being too light, Miss Londa! There was pretty good draft from the air conditioning vent in the bathroom that helped move the door about a foot. A heavier door would have probably eliminated the problem. Thanks for watching and for the comment!