I picked up my CSX, cleaned it up, and headed to the range. I ran 500 rds through this micro pistol and it ran flawlessly. I noticed the trigger felt better after about 100 rounds. The pistol didn't have a problem with steel case, aluminum. or brass. I ran anything from 115 grain to 147 grain bullets and the pistol did not miss a beat. I will reiterate that this not a competition piece, strictly a deep conceal carry EDC firearm. I feel very confident carrying the CSX since it appears to be very reliable and well-constructed. The best gun is the gun that feels best to you!!
just what we needed, another micro subcompact. i'm glad it's a hammer gun, instead of another striker fired variant. i would have preferred a da sa gun. i guess it's competing with the sig 938. i would buy it if it had a 4 inch barrel & 15 plus 1 capacity. appreciate your honesty about it, instead of saying it's the best thing ever, like most you tube reviewers.
It’s worth mentioning that DA/SA is on the outs right now. See new shooters are steering away from DA/SA cause of the issues with disengagement of the safety. That’s why they decided against DA/SA on the CSX. It’s why Springfield armory discontinued the XD-E last month. For some reason new shooters are avoiding the DA/SA platform. I went to a striker gun with a trigger safety cause the SAO with reliance on the safety was making me nervous. Now I do still retain my old P938 for situations where I prefer to be armed but need discretion cause it hides so much better then most guns
Wish it had full 360 degree checkering going all the way up and had a 4 lbs trigger. Also, eliminate the right side slide lock and have a standard Browning, push button on the right for easier, toolless takedown. And a rail. Good start though.
I have to say, I absolutely love my CSX. I have 400 rounds through it with absolutely no issue. I use a golf tee for a non marring take down. Only complaint I may have is that the 10 round mag fully loaded is abit difficult to seat, but does work. This is a good option, and once you take it down a few times, I think it’s easier than a majority of the other Micro 9s. I also thought the frame looked strange but honestly the portion that is left untextured makes no difference. S&W did a good job putting texture where it is needed. Also as mentioned, my trigger has lightened up with use. It’s by far the shortest pull of any of the new Micro 9s, but may outweigh some by a pound or so. I do have to say the HST +p rounds pack a punch out of this gun, other than that, standard range ammo is a breeze.
Saw a video where someone had problems with the 10 round magazine seating. Turns out the mag spring wasn’t properly hooked on the follower. Might be worth checking.
I can't wait to get my hands on one and see for myself. My EDC is a Sig P938. I have extensive experience with mil issued M9s, and own and shoot most every other category of handguns. The new micro 9s tempted me with higher round counts but i didnt want to give up my SA 938. This has me seriously considering a change in my EDC.
Oh wow, that smaller backstrap makes the gun look stupid. Why would they even include that without any sort of side panel to hide that gap in the frame? I can't belive they thought that was okay.
Smaller back strap is designed for small hands only. The texture on small back is like extreme sand paper in the front & back of grip, you would need to wear a t-shirt with appendix carry to protect your soft belly.
Looks incomplete for sure. I would put some stick-on grip panels if I used the small backstrap. Shouldn't have to do that it seems like they didn't really want the smaller grip and it was an afterthought.
I am impressed with this new micro pistol. I'm also firmly believing that a lightweight 2" 5-shot revolver (S&W, Ruger, Taurus) is still a superior CCW weapon for a long list of reasons.
I really wanted to like this. It had potential. It really did, but with so many near misses on S&W's part, it is a No-Go at this station. Good on you though Graham for being honest about it's many shortcomings.
New subscriber to your channel. I like your honesty. I love my CSX purchased yesterday. Mine is a newer serial number series than yours and mine has no reset issue, no take down issue and 10 round mag loads easily. I guess S&W reads the numerous posts and the various channels. I have been a hammer fired single action lover with the 928, 238 and Micro 9. I still have all of my past S&W duty weapons, 39, 59, 469, 5906 and 6906. The CSX is a good addition. I will continue to watch your channel. Thanks.
Thank you and welcome to the channel! We differ from others in that we're journalists, not "influencers". We don't care what you buy so long as it's right for you. To that end we try to be as objective as we can and present a spectrum of opinions. You'll also find that we range test every gun with the same protocol so you can see how it stack up to other models scientifically rather than shooter opinion.
@@GBGuns I like that approach as I do subscribe other channels and find either fanboys or haters of particular firearms. I saw much of the same in 2018 when the P365 came out. I use reviews like I use the news. For honesty not opinion. I will view regularly. Thanks
Perfect for ccw but need some improvements . A loaded 10 rd magazine will not fit in the gun , honeymoon fit , just sayin . First full detail table top review so far . Thanks
Lots of good info on this pistol, thanks much! I'll be looking forward to future versions of this. When I went to buy a P938 Legion they had one of these and it was a very hard choice between the two of them, I did end up with the Sig. I'm still very interested in the CSX.
If this is the new thing in carry guns, I guess I'm staying old school. Make that thing DA/SA and my ears will perk up. It has several pros going for it, but I can't figure out why I would need a single action gun. I have DA/SA guns with a safety that allows for condition 1 carry that is never used. That and a crappy trigger reset have me as shy to this gun as I an be. Great review!
Waiting on S&W to come out with a optic ready and rail version but delete the trigger safety before I buy one, or two, maybe three especially if they make a .380 model (for the wife).
If they were smart they would just put an aluminum frame on the shield plus. Then they might have a gun worth buying. The shield plus is a pretty good firearm couple that with he aluminum frame and they could have saved money and had a good gun
I can't believe they released this gun in it's current form. That small back strap it's just awful. The plastic texturing on the front of the grip that gets broken off during mag changes. The 10rd mags that are effectively the same size as 12rd mags. The loose spacer on the 12 rd mag flopping around. It's just a mess.
Just got this for my first handgun. I think a lot of the issues are from being a gun owner of other types and getting used to that. This will be my first handgun. And im assuming I'll get used to this and then think the normal stuff feels weird lol.
Seems like a cool option. The gap left by the larger backstrap would drive me nuts from an aesthetic perspective, also a hot metal frame coming out of a glovebox will get toasty to hold and I'd want as little metal on skin contact as possible. Thanks for the video.
I want to like this gun, but I do shoot to reset and I’m afraid that false click would drive me nuts. I think there might be a place in the market for micro lights even smaller than those out for the P365. Anyway, if it had a rail, you’d have the choice to use it or not.
Mine mags wouldn’t insert if full initially. After 48 hours, I could get a full 10 round mag in. Never could get the 12 round mag to seat. Could only load it to 11 and had to physically pull the mag out of the gun with 11 rounds in it. Mags dropped free as you would expect otherwise. Trigger was very heavy and gritty on mine, but not unusable. The dealbreaker for me was that the slide bites me when I shoot it. It’s just too small for my hands. Ended up selling the gun at a slight loss. I think it’s a neat idea for a gun. Just didn’t work out for me.
I don't think it will. Photos don't do the thing justice, the slide is smaller than the Shield Plus. Watch the Arfcom SHOTSHOW video on the CSX, the rep said there's basically nowhere to put it.
I hope Smith & Wesson fixes that awful trigger dongle safety that wont let you do follow up shots without fully disengaging your finger from the trigger. The extremely high trigger weight is awful as well. Other than those 2 things I think it would be a great carry gun for folks that like the 1911. Yes, we know its not a 1911, but has a similar style of operation. Perfect for summer carry! I am not worried about a light on a tiny carry gun. The only one that would fit is a O light mini 600 lumen anyway.
Nice review. I would point out that you might want to research the UA-cam guidelines on firearm modification as it doesn’t apply to a manufacturer supplied option like an included backstrap swap. Other YT content contributors show this feature without any censorship problems so you should be able to do so as well.
You're right it doesn't, but we've had videos deleted and received warnings for it. UA-cam doesn't follow their own rules and it's not applied fairly or evenly.
@@GBGuns Sorry to hear about the selective application of rules. Gotta be tough for you guys. Maybe Elon can buy YT next and get rid of the anti-freedom censorship…. 👍
We've been demonetized or flagged in the oddest of ways. I email UA-cam for just about every video and not once have they been able to explain how our videos violate their rules.
Another great video! I just order my CSX holster from hidden hybrid holster on Monday 1/24/22 for around $108 bucks. My shield plus with laser / light combo is now my house firearm. I am very happy with CSX, simply more comfortable for CCW. This gun is best suited for average size person with large or medium size hands. If your big dude with big hands get a bigger firearm.
Are there any studies of self defense shootings where the defender was asked to rate how well the trigger felt to them while they were shooting in fear of their lives?
Something about a cocked hammer, albeit locked, that I find hard to feel comfortable with. This is a gun I'd carry in a pocket holster, and I'd worry, probably illogically, that the hammer would get caught on my pocket. Even carrying iwb, the fear that a shirt might catch on the hammer would concern me. Please tell me why I'm wrong.
I got this had it for almost a year carrying it in rotation with afew others. Ive iwb and pocket carried it. Always cocked and ready to go. The hammer almost sits down into the bever tail so there is no way for it to snag anything.its almost at one with the bever tail. In the pocket or iwb it comes right out no problems. It will not catch on anything on its way out.
As far as I’m concerned that gun is a dripping slime bag of expensive manure! $600, you got to be kidding. It seems for the past 10 or more years, consumers have to wait for version 2.0 for all the improvements that should have been in the original release
Did S&W give you any insight into why they felt the need to include a trigger safety on a SA that already has a more traditional thumb safety? The logic for this redundancy evades me and it seems omitting the former would offer a simplified trigger mechanism and could provide a smoother trigger pull. (Kudos to S&W for incorporating M&P-like thumb safety functionality - enabling the operator to rack the slide while the thumb safety is engaged.)
@@GBGuns it's either that, or they needed something to act as a firing pin/drop safety. I haven't looked at a parts breakdown to see what the trigger dingus does exactly, but that's my scientific wild-@$$ guess.
“Trigger dingus” style safeties are rudimentary drop safeties, nothing more. The safety lever and the trigger shoe have vastly different masses, which causes them to react to hitting the floor (when dropped muzzle up) at different rates. Thus preventing the trigger pulling itself due to inertia during a fall.
Imo, I don't really get all the moaning and groaning with the gun being SA only. DA/SA and decockers need extra parts and space. Want second strike capability? You aren't gonna have that with a striker fired gun, either. Doesn't look like the hammer would catch on much. I don't think it sticks out. The gun is too slim for optics and lights. I'm fine with that. I'll buy a different gun for that. The gun is "small" for some people. The whole point of the gun is to be small?! I don't understand the P365 macro xl trend, either. Just buy a compact or a full size at that point. The grip panel thing, though, totally sucks. The front panel is a terrible idea. They should have just machined the checkering into the front. Not using traditional side grips probably helps with reducing the width, but leaving those gaps with the different backstrap is gross. Good review, wouldn't have found the grip issues without you.
youtube must have something against you because I saw a review of this same gun with sootchOO and he changes the back strap and takes it all apart and has no problems. Strange if you ask me!
Or it's demonetized and he doesn't care because he was paid for the video by the company or a marketing company? We don't accept such monies and so are reliant on UA-cam revenue and our Patrons to keep the channel alive.
I want one of these ever since i picked up one at a gun store and how while it fit in my hand for its size. Would be my new EDC since my G19 is a bit large for the clothes i wear. Appendix Carrying it makes it disappear but if youve ever sat down with the barrel point right at your dick or a major artery in your leg you dont ever really feel comfortable...
This gun desperately needs a performance center edition. It needs an optics cut and better trigger out of the box (without that trigger safety, I'm not a fan of that and the frame safety). And I'd prefer a slightly larger safety ledge like a 1911 so I can be more confident in deactivating it. All that being said I primarily carry a CZ P07 so Im used to hammer fired pistols but the 1911 I used to have is the only manual safety pistol I've ever carried
How can someone bash one pistol on its size then hype another that's exactly the same size..I love the csx my personal favorite carry over my sig 365 or hellcat..
So Graham, what happens to those guns that you buy on your dime for the reviews after you're done with them? You don't actually warehouse them all do you?
@@GBGuns Oooooo! We must get better acquainted my dear bearded friend!! turiddu@gmail.com I have a particular fondness for handguns that are made primarily of steel or aluminum, anything ported or compensated, and any 2011 you’re not longer taken with!
Just to address what S&W told you about DA/SA: if someone is "too impatient" to learn it, then they're *way too immature to hold ANY firearm-- ever!* Edited to say: Graham, you're the first guntuber I've watched who actually put the smaller back strap on-- Thanks for that, as it's probably the way I'd go if I owned a CSX. However, now that I've seen it, I'll probably never own this gun! #1) it looks hideous with the smaller strap installed-- like a 'slapped on' afterthought... #2) it has a hammer, which I love. But it's not DA/SA, which I want my hammer guns to be... #3) that front grip plate being so unforgiving of 'sloppy mag insertion,' doesn't work for me-- what is this? *Taurus c.1998?!*
Why waste time learning DA/SA when single action and striker fire exist, and for all intents and purposes work just as well - if not better? I've had a double action pistol, and I don't miss that janky mush-trigger on the first shot. Just because one *can* get used to something doesn't mean they *have* to, and it doesn't mean they're "too immature to hold ANY firearm-- ever."
@@kuuryotwo5153 Some people still enjoy driving stick shift, even though auto transmissions exist... Point is, S&W's reasoning wasn't thought all the way through, imho
I wanted to be sure I understood the intent and decisions made. We've all seen countless reviews that ha e mislead the public or misrepresented the product because the reviewer didn't understand it.
I'm sorry... I love the idea of this fire arm.... but the issue is that this firearm has 4 big flaws. 1) the untextured aluminum grip loos like crap, 2) 10 round magazine does not fit when fully loaded, 3) the Triggers if horrendous for a cock and locked singe action gun... why the F would you put a dingus on it?! 4) That front finger pad, fact that it can be broke when inserting a mag.... that is a BIG design flaw!
NOT being DA/SA w/decocker is why I am not interested in this gun. I carry hammer-fired and striker-fired guns, but I don't care to get used to cocked-and-locked.
Ok. So maybe I don't shop at Dollar General or Walmart enough...$600 for a domestically produced, metal framed, hammer fired pistol of reputable construction and somewhat innovative (i.e., not a direct ripoff of others' development) design is a Bargain! Seriously, is everyone so hooked on promoting Caniks and other imported polymers that they sell their patriotism for $50??
See this is the biggest slap in the face. I saw a little stack and a half single action gun with that 1911 looking trigger and got excited thinking that this would be a perfect little gun, but nope, it's just an micro 9 with a gimmick. Guess I'll have to wait for sig to make a stack and a half 238 or 938.
For $600 you can by a Beretta m9. This gun is way overpriced. Also it’s basically a compact 2011. I wish they’d made it da/sa. Now that would be worth $600.
Most of the dislikes here are irrelevant if you want a SA and no rail. The mag sleeve is or isn't a prob? OK so the gun is too small for your mits. Worried about loosing takedown tools? Only thing that made sense was if I care about it, that's up to me, you bet. You review was valueless. (is that better) I bailed early, bye.
Also a bit glossy 😂😂 dude your a joke It’s literally the same sights as all the MP sights 😂😂 people like you complain and complain but when it comes time to shoot You can’t
I picked up my CSX, cleaned it up, and headed to the range. I ran 500 rds through this micro pistol and it ran flawlessly. I noticed the trigger felt better after about 100 rounds. The pistol didn't have a problem with steel case, aluminum. or brass. I ran anything from 115 grain to 147 grain bullets and the pistol did not miss a beat. I will reiterate that this not a competition piece, strictly a deep conceal carry EDC firearm. I feel very confident carrying the CSX since it appears to be very reliable and well-constructed. The best gun is the gun that feels best to you!!
Glad to hear it. Which holster do you use for it?
just what we needed, another micro subcompact. i'm glad it's a hammer gun, instead of another striker fired variant. i would have preferred a da sa gun. i guess it's competing with the sig 938. i would buy it if it had a 4 inch barrel & 15 plus 1 capacity. appreciate your honesty about it, instead of saying it's the best thing ever, like most you tube reviewers.
It’s worth mentioning that DA/SA is on the outs right now. See new shooters are steering away from DA/SA cause of the issues with disengagement of the safety. That’s why they decided against DA/SA on the CSX. It’s why Springfield armory discontinued the XD-E last month. For some reason new shooters are avoiding the DA/SA platform. I went to a striker gun with a trigger safety cause the SAO with reliance on the safety was making me nervous. Now I do still retain my old P938 for situations where I prefer to be armed but need discretion cause it hides so much better then most guns
Wish it had full 360 degree checkering going all the way up and had a 4 lbs trigger.
Also, eliminate the right side slide lock and have a standard Browning, push button on the right for easier, toolless takedown. And a rail.
Good start though.
I have to say, I absolutely love my CSX. I have 400 rounds through it with absolutely no issue. I use a golf tee for a non marring take down. Only complaint I may have is that the 10 round mag fully loaded is abit difficult to seat, but does work.
This is a good option, and once you take it down a few times, I think it’s easier than a majority of the other Micro 9s.
I also thought the frame looked strange but honestly the portion that is left untextured makes no difference. S&W did a good job putting texture where it is needed.
Also as mentioned, my trigger has lightened up with use. It’s by far the shortest pull of any of the new Micro 9s, but may outweigh some by a pound or so.
I do have to say the HST +p rounds pack a punch out of this gun, other than that, standard range ammo is a breeze.
Good to hear. We're hoping our opinion improves after some range time.
Saw a video where someone had problems with the 10 round magazine seating. Turns out the mag spring wasn’t properly hooked on the follower. Might be worth checking.
I can't wait to get my hands on one and see for myself. My EDC is a Sig P938. I have extensive experience with mil issued M9s, and own and shoot most every other category of handguns. The new micro 9s tempted me with higher round counts but i didnt want to give up my SA 938. This has me seriously considering a change in my EDC.
Oh wow, that smaller backstrap makes the gun look stupid. Why would they even include that without any sort of side panel to hide that gap in the frame? I can't belive they thought that was okay.
Smaller back strap is designed for small hands only. The texture on small back is like extreme sand paper in the front & back of grip, you would need to wear a t-shirt with appendix carry to protect your soft belly.
@IMD918 ~ Exactly! Well said...
Looks incomplete for sure. I would put some stick-on grip panels if I used the small backstrap. Shouldn't have to do that it seems like they didn't really want the smaller grip and it was an afterthought.
@@tray22 You're right we shouldn't have to do that-- especially for a $600 handgun
Just bought one a week ago. Great little pistol!
Looking forward to a “xl” variant. Hopefully with wider safety lever
I am impressed with this new micro pistol. I'm also firmly believing that a lightweight 2" 5-shot revolver (S&W, Ruger, Taurus) is still a superior CCW weapon for a long list of reasons.
Thanks for the review
I really wanted to like this. It had potential. It really did, but with so many near misses on S&W's part, it is a No-Go at this station.
Good on you though Graham for being honest about it's many shortcomings.
New subscriber to your channel. I like your honesty. I love my CSX purchased yesterday. Mine is a newer serial number series than yours and mine has no reset issue, no take down issue and 10 round mag loads easily. I guess S&W reads the numerous posts and the various channels. I have been a hammer fired single action lover with the 928, 238 and Micro 9. I still have all of my past S&W duty weapons, 39, 59, 469, 5906 and 6906. The CSX is a good addition. I will continue to watch your channel. Thanks.
Thank you and welcome to the channel! We differ from others in that we're journalists, not "influencers". We don't care what you buy so long as it's right for you. To that end we try to be as objective as we can and present a spectrum of opinions. You'll also find that we range test every gun with the same protocol so you can see how it stack up to other models scientifically rather than shooter opinion.
@@GBGuns I like that approach as I do subscribe other channels and find either fanboys or haters of particular firearms. I saw much of the same in 2018 when the P365 came out. I use reviews like I use the news. For honesty not opinion. I will view regularly. Thanks
I loved it
Perfect for ccw but need some improvements . A loaded 10 rd magazine will not fit in the gun , honeymoon fit , just sayin . First full detail table top review so far . Thanks
Article: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/s-w-csx-when-intent-and-realities-don-t-coincide
Lots of good info on this pistol, thanks much! I'll be looking forward to future versions of this. When I went to buy a P938 Legion they had one of these and it was a very hard choice between the two of them, I did end up with the Sig. I'm still very interested in the CSX.
I've heard that S&W has fixed some of the issues that these early guns had.
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I can be nit picky about any firearm truth be told the s+w 9mm micro is one of the finest firearm ever made and absolutely perfect for edc
If this had a decocker and a "regular" trigger I would love it.
I’m guessing that won’t be nominated for best of ‘22……. But then again there’s “a rear for every seat” I guess 😎 Great reviews as always
If this is the new thing in carry guns, I guess I'm staying old school. Make that thing DA/SA and my ears will perk up. It has several pros going for it, but I can't figure out why I would need a single action gun. I have DA/SA guns with a safety that allows for condition 1 carry that is never used. That and a crappy trigger reset have me as shy to this gun as I an be. Great review!
If I had listened to you guys I would have missed one of the best micro nines on the market.
We allhave different standards
@Graham Baates I could go off in so many directions in defense of this but I shouldn't have to. Anyways, love your show.
I understand S&W fixed a lot of things with rolling changes too. I bought an early one and learned that was a bad idea.
Would have liked to see a fiber optic front sight and all black rear
Sellimg my pos kahr k9 on the 29th at the gun show and vetting one ov these, either there or at bass pro immediately after wards
The gun looks tiny in your hand! 😆
Enjoyed your review as usual.
Waiting on S&W to come out with a optic ready and rail version but delete the trigger safety before I buy one, or two, maybe three especially if they make a .380 model (for the wife).
If they were smart they would just put an aluminum frame on the shield plus. Then they might have a gun worth buying. The shield plus is a pretty good firearm couple that with he aluminum frame and they could have saved money and had a good gun
I can't believe they released this gun in it's current form. That small back strap it's just awful. The plastic texturing on the front of the grip that gets broken off during mag changes. The 10rd mags that are effectively the same size as 12rd mags. The loose spacer on the 12 rd mag flopping around. It's just a mess.
Just got this for my first handgun. I think a lot of the issues are from being a gun owner of other types and getting used to that. This will be my first handgun. And im assuming I'll get used to this and then think the normal stuff feels weird lol.
Seems like a cool option. The gap left by the larger backstrap would drive me nuts from an aesthetic perspective, also a hot metal frame coming out of a glovebox will get toasty to hold and I'd want as little metal on skin contact as possible. Thanks for the video.
The firearm is fine. The fire arm your looking for is something you should consider building yourself.
Your comment makes no sense. Did you watch the range video?
My initial reaction was ewwww but now I'm looking forward to your range test. Great job as always!!!
I want to like this gun, but I do shoot to reset and I’m afraid that false click would drive me nuts. I think there might be a place in the market for micro lights even smaller than those out for the P365. Anyway, if it had a rail, you’d have the choice to use it or not.
Mine mags wouldn’t insert if full initially. After 48 hours, I could get a full 10 round mag in. Never could get the 12 round mag to seat. Could only load it to 11 and had to physically pull the mag out of the gun with 11 rounds in it. Mags dropped free as you would expect otherwise. Trigger was very heavy and gritty on mine, but not unusable. The dealbreaker for me was that the slide bites me when I shoot it. It’s just too small for my hands. Ended up selling the gun at a slight loss. I think it’s a neat idea for a gun. Just didn’t work out for me.
Whats your edc?
I want one..but will wait to see if will get an optic cut
I don't think it will. Photos don't do the thing justice, the slide is smaller than the Shield Plus. Watch the Arfcom SHOTSHOW video on the CSX, the rep said there's basically nowhere to put it.
@@kuuryotwo5153 thanks!! ill definitely watch and read more on it
I hope Smith & Wesson fixes that awful trigger dongle safety that wont let you do follow up shots without fully disengaging your finger from the trigger. The extremely high trigger weight is awful as well. Other than those 2 things I think it would be a great carry gun for folks that like the 1911. Yes, we know its not a 1911, but has a similar style of operation. Perfect for summer carry! I am not worried about a light on a tiny carry gun. The only one that would fit is a O light mini 600 lumen anyway.
Nice review. I would point out that you might want to research the UA-cam guidelines on firearm modification as it doesn’t apply to a manufacturer supplied option like an included backstrap swap. Other YT content contributors show this feature without any censorship problems so you should be able to do so as well.
You're right it doesn't, but we've had videos deleted and received warnings for it. UA-cam doesn't follow their own rules and it's not applied fairly or evenly.
@@GBGuns Sorry to hear about the selective application of rules. Gotta be tough for you guys. Maybe Elon can buy YT next and get rid of the anti-freedom censorship…. 👍
We've been demonetized or flagged in the oddest of ways. I email UA-cam for just about every video and not once have they been able to explain how our videos violate their rules.
That’s a design flaw that a mag insertion can break something.
Not a fan of this. Small backstrap looks like an afterthought. Should have been a DA/SA like the Chief Special CF9.
Another great video! I just order my CSX holster from hidden hybrid holster on Monday 1/24/22 for around $108 bucks. My shield plus with laser / light combo is now my house firearm. I am very happy with CSX, simply more comfortable for CCW. This gun is best suited for average size person with large or medium size hands. If your big dude with big hands get a bigger firearm.
Need one in .40
Wow this gun looks like someone forget when the deadline was... why would they fail on the backstrap..and that odd trigger
A single action deep conceal pistol? What’s the point...? It’s like Army intelligence no such thing!
Are there any studies of self defense shootings where the defender was asked to rate how well the trigger felt to them while they were shooting in fear of their lives?
This is beyond nuances, it feels like the safety is on. THAT could be catastrophic in a defensive scenario
Something about a cocked hammer, albeit locked, that I find hard to feel comfortable with. This is a gun I'd carry in a pocket holster, and I'd worry, probably illogically, that the hammer would get caught on my pocket. Even carrying iwb, the fear that a shirt might catch on the hammer would concern me. Please tell me why I'm wrong.
I got this had it for almost a year carrying it in rotation with afew others. Ive iwb and pocket carried it. Always cocked and ready to go. The hammer almost sits down into the bever tail so there is no way for it to snag anything.its almost at one with the bever tail. In the pocket or iwb it comes right out no problems. It will not catch on anything on its way out.
The pin removal is not always that easy... a standard 1911 pin design would have made the CSX a 5 star pistol, as is I am disappointed.
I think people will start going back to a revolver grip on semi autos.
A stronger grip and less likely you'll be pressing controls.
As far as I’m concerned that gun is a dripping slime bag of expensive manure! $600, you got to be kidding. It seems for the past 10 or more years, consumers have to wait for version 2.0 for all the improvements that should have been in the original release
Can't find a Bersa TPR9C to save my life but these are all over the place.
hmmmmm... big think.
When it came out I thought they had a really nice concept but lost me on everything you covered. I'm sure the next generation will be on
Interesting concept, but seems a little not thought through before production and hurried.
Did S&W give you any insight into why they felt the need to include a trigger safety on a SA that already has a more traditional thumb safety? The logic for this redundancy evades me and it seems omitting the former would offer a simplified trigger mechanism and could provide a smoother trigger pull. (Kudos to S&W for incorporating M&P-like thumb safety functionality - enabling the operator to rack the slide while the thumb safety is engaged.)
I think they were targeting first-time/new gun owners who have historically sought more safeties.
@@GBGuns it's either that, or they needed something to act as a firing pin/drop safety. I haven't looked at a parts breakdown to see what the trigger dingus does exactly, but that's my scientific wild-@$$ guess.
“Trigger dingus” style safeties are rudimentary drop safeties, nothing more. The safety lever and the trigger shoe have vastly different masses, which causes them to react to hitting the floor (when dropped muzzle up) at different rates. Thus preventing the trigger pulling itself due to inertia during a fall.
I’ve experienced a fully loaded magazine is hard to seat into the gun.
Any extended mags and/or baseplates????
Try to get a Walther P88 Compact to review
Imo, I don't really get all the moaning and groaning with the gun being SA only.
DA/SA and decockers need extra parts and space. Want second strike capability? You aren't gonna have that with a striker fired gun, either.
Doesn't look like the hammer would catch on much. I don't think it sticks out.
The gun is too slim for optics and lights. I'm fine with that. I'll buy a different gun for that.
The gun is "small" for some people. The whole point of the gun is to be small?! I don't understand the P365 macro xl trend, either. Just buy a compact or a full size at that point.
The grip panel thing, though, totally sucks. The front panel is a terrible idea. They should have just machined the checkering into the front. Not using traditional side grips probably helps with reducing the width, but leaving those gaps with the different backstrap is gross.
Good review, wouldn't have found the grip issues without you.
It shoot my carry gun a lot as most should do.
Would have been more impressed if it was da/sa
Called am ismi spring buddy
Excellent and honest review!
youtube must have something against you because I saw a review of this same gun with sootchOO and he changes the back strap and takes it all apart and has no problems. Strange if you ask me!
Or it's demonetized and he doesn't care because he was paid for the video by the company or a marketing company? We don't accept such monies and so are reliant on UA-cam revenue and our Patrons to keep the channel alive.
I want one of these ever since i picked up one at a gun store and how while it fit in my hand for its size. Would be my new EDC since my G19 is a bit large for the clothes i wear. Appendix Carrying it makes it disappear but if youve ever sat down with the barrel point right at your dick or a major artery in your leg you dont ever really feel comfortable...
Some people like chocolate some like vanilla...
Yes but no one likes coin chocolates.
Smith and wesson mag type guns never had appeal on the masses huh.
This gun desperately needs a performance center edition.
It needs an optics cut and better trigger out of the box (without that trigger safety, I'm not a fan of that and the frame safety).
And I'd prefer a slightly larger safety ledge like a 1911 so I can be more confident in deactivating it.
All that being said I primarily carry a CZ P07 so Im used to hammer fired pistols but the 1911 I used to have is the only manual safety pistol I've ever carried
Too much $ for too little bang
Bring on the range report
Thanks
How can someone bash one pistol on its size then hype another that's exactly the same size..I love the csx my personal favorite carry over my sig 365 or hellcat..
Because one has a smarter build
So Graham, what happens to those guns that you buy on your dime for the reviews after you're done with them? You don't actually warehouse them all do you?
Some I hold onto for reference, others I sell
@@GBGuns Oooooo! We must get better acquainted my dear bearded friend!! turiddu@gmail.com I have a particular fondness for handguns that are made primarily of steel or aluminum, anything ported or compensated, and any 2011 you’re not longer taken with!
Just to address what S&W told you about DA/SA: if someone is "too impatient" to learn it, then they're *way too immature to hold ANY firearm-- ever!*
Edited to say: Graham, you're the first guntuber I've watched who actually put the smaller back strap on-- Thanks for that, as it's probably the way I'd go if I owned a CSX.
However, now that I've seen it, I'll probably never own this gun! #1) it looks hideous with the smaller strap installed-- like a 'slapped on' afterthought...
#2) it has a hammer, which I love. But it's not DA/SA, which I want my hammer guns to be...
#3) that front grip plate being so unforgiving of 'sloppy mag insertion,' doesn't work for me-- what is this? *Taurus c.1998?!*
Why waste time learning DA/SA when single action and striker fire exist, and for all intents and purposes work just as well - if not better? I've had a double action pistol, and I don't miss that janky mush-trigger on the first shot. Just because one *can* get used to something doesn't mean they *have* to, and it doesn't mean they're "too immature to hold ANY firearm-- ever."
@@kuuryotwo5153 Some people still enjoy driving stick shift, even though auto transmissions exist...
Point is, S&W's reasoning wasn't thought all the way through, imho
The unfinished back strap is tacky...Wow!
A new product shouldn’t need the manufactures rationalization for why it’s not so bad.
I wanted to be sure I understood the intent and decisions made. We've all seen countless reviews that ha e mislead the public or misrepresented the product because the reviewer didn't understand it.
I'm sorry... I love the idea of this fire arm.... but the issue is that this firearm has 4 big flaws. 1) the untextured aluminum grip loos like crap, 2) 10 round magazine does not fit when fully loaded, 3) the Triggers if horrendous for a cock and locked singe action gun... why the F would you put a dingus on it?! 4) That front finger pad, fact that it can be broke when inserting a mag.... that is a BIG design flaw!
Thanks GB. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Not a gun for me. If I was going to buy a S&W it would be the Shield.
I love my Shield 45. I am more accurate with the 45 than I am he 9mm so I carry the 45 and the 9mm sits in the safe.
You coughed up 600 for us 😂😂 nah dude you spent 600 for yourself
You watched the video, didn't you?
@@GBGuns haha no
So then how did you comment or know that I spent the money?
NOT being DA/SA w/decocker is why I am not interested in this gun. I carry hammer-fired and striker-fired guns, but I don't care to get used to cocked-and-locked.
Bersa Thunder TPR9C is alloy DA/SA with ambidextrous safety, decocker, and accessory rail-everything the CSX lacks. but the CSX is pretty and petite.
Ok. So maybe I don't shop at Dollar General or Walmart enough...$600 for a domestically produced, metal framed, hammer fired pistol of reputable construction and somewhat innovative (i.e., not a direct ripoff of others' development) design is a Bargain! Seriously, is everyone so hooked on promoting Caniks and other imported polymers that they sell their patriotism for $50??
This gun is trash. American made trash.
Appears it’s a prototype, not ready for prime time
This gun blows
If only da/sa
The trigger is a fake. Made to look like a 1911 trigger, but just a pivot type.
See this is the biggest slap in the face. I saw a little stack and a half single action gun with that 1911 looking trigger and got excited thinking that this would be a perfect little gun, but nope, it's just an micro 9 with a gimmick. Guess I'll have to wait for sig to make a stack and a half 238 or 938.
This uses a c clamp for the safety not a fork and tongue … come on now
For $600 you can by a Beretta m9. This gun is way overpriced. Also it’s basically a compact 2011. I wish they’d made it da/sa. Now that would be worth $600.
Ouch this gun sucks. They should have done some classic grip panels with a screw, or just milled some texture. Yuck.
Most of the dislikes here are irrelevant if you want a SA and no rail. The mag sleeve is or isn't a prob? OK so the gun is too small for your mits. Worried about loosing takedown tools? Only thing that made sense was if I care about it, that's up to me, you bet. You review was valueless. (is that better) I bailed early, bye.
Oh yeah, can't like a video if someone has asthma. Go back to your kiddie shows
Sorry about your condition, the rest stands. What a reply! What shows are you referencing? Very odd response. @@GBGuns
I’m still not impressed, I’ll stick with my Sig p938,
Of course it has slop 😂😂 wow Are you captain obvious or what Who needs a loaded chamber indicator
Not my cup of tea!
Also a bit glossy 😂😂 dude your a joke It’s literally the same sights as all the MP sights 😂😂 people like you complain and complain but when it comes time to shoot You can’t
Obviously the wrong piece for you. That greatly prejudiced your review.