I'm not even exaggerating when I say that Thorfinn's character growth is the best I've seen this year. If this doesn't win Anime of the Year ... so be it. The jury is not my enemy.
@@Zrs3820 Something isn't trash just because it's mainstream, Demon Slayer and JJK are both good in their own way. Vinland Saga is way better but it is what it is
I’ve been watching this series with a friend of mine each week. He’s an anime only and while he really loved season 1 while we were watching in 2019, it didn’t make any of his favourite lists at the time. However just a few episodes ago (2x20) he had a real emotional breakdown that I’ve never seen from him before and he said “I wish I had Thorfinn when I was a teenager”. He told me about the anger problems he had growing up, got into wrong crowds and got into a lot of trouble, and that it took him a looong time to break out of the downward spiral. After this episode he said that he has so rarely come across a story that handles self improvement and healthy masculinity soo effortlessly and Thorfinn almost certainly will become “my favourite character in anime”. Thorfinn is without question one of the best examples of healthy masculinity out there. And yet as you said in your discussion, he is still a work in progress. He has soo much to learn, think about, and put into practice. 4 years is certainly a long time but it can happen in a blink of eye too and yet here he is. We finally see Thorfinn as himself. His true self. I can never fully articulate how much he means to me. Soo proud of this man ♥️
@@PyjamaKing This story really is precious. I have a lot of internet friends who have told me their stories of how VS has effected them. I’ve read soo many comments of people who write about how much this story means to them. However, the experience of having someone (whose very dear to me) right in front of me share their pain and how they feel this story is healing them? It was such a special experience that I’ll treasure forever. That’s the power of Yukimura’s story.
This story will change many lives and perspectives, I pray for everyone to watch this show. Thorfinn is a real man. I want to be more like him, and more like Jesus everyday.
I love Thorfinn so much. Especially after reading chapter 191, his story is without a doubt the most beautiful piece of literature I've ever read. It's such a wonderful message about atoning for the wrongs you've committed and improving yourself and rejecting mindless rage. I will carry Thorfinn with me for the rest of my life.
@@PurposelyGood Some people need life experience to actually get it that's why there's tons of people who liked s1 but hated the second because they found it unrealistic, which is absurd
It's fucking ridiculous how good this is. Watching this scene for the first time was an out of body experience. This is a type of story that only comes in a millenia. Incredible. Speechless. Goosebumps all around.
I also cry watching it.. and i already read the manga. But it is so beautiful… to follow his story from childhood to be able to understand his dad and saying that stuff…. Surely it is one of the most memorable scene in anime history
@@skylerwhereisthemoney746It's crazy. I didn't watch this show for a long time because I wasn't interested in just another action anime. Boy wad I wrong. This is one of the best shows of all time. Not just anime. I meant that.
The "I have no enemies" line still hits hard no matter how many times I've seen it. Thorfinn's character arc is one of the most impactful and beautiful things I've even seen and read. The author of Vinland Saga truly is something else.
This is why I appreciate the slow pacing of this show. It's an immersion. The audience learns important life lessons together with Thorfinn. Change just doesn't happen overnight for most people.
watching back the first few episodes of vinland saga after this is so different, thr author really knew since the beginning his purpose in writing this
This adaptation surpass what a simple seasonal anime is. This anime is pure art. The music, the voice acting, the drawing, etc. If you pause in any frame you will find an beautiful piece of art. This is animation, it’s not for Childs, it’s a beautiful demonstration of what humans can do
I'm sorry but nah. I agree that voice actors are doing a phenomenal job and the soundtrack is stellar, but the animation is really of average quality. And I say that with sadness in my heart because I really wanted this adaptation to be incredible since I love Vinland Saga. But it's just not much better than your average anime. An ideal adaptation deserved a movie-level budget for every episode. Oh well, Yukimura's manga is right there and has ACTUALLY incredible artwork.
This entire episode of Vinland Saga was just incredible. It's quite possibly one of the best episode I've seen of any anime. Almost everything in this episode was great in my opinion. You legit can feel the impact of everything that was building up to all the events in this episode. - The Vikings even Drott having respect for Thorfinn as a true warrior. - Thorfinn finally saying the words his father Thors wanted him to say and believe in all this time. - Olmar admiring Thorfinn's determination and strength to fight for Ketil's farm without any violence. Plus Thorfinn showed him what a real man really is. - Einar showing us the pain of an average person getting caught in the violence caused by ideals of people like Canute. - Canute revealing his true ideals on how he will make his version of "Paradise" on earth.
Thorfinn changed my perspective on life when he was taking to snake. Now every time I have a disagreement with someone I'm close to, I ask myself, am I really trying? Am I actually saying everything I possibly can to resolve the situation, rather than just protecting myself?
For these reasons I love art so much, vinland saga is a masterpiece, one of the best works I've ever seen, and there are few works that do so much good for human existentialism, each person has their own, mine is a manga, vagbond , there's no anime, but that's not the point (yet), it's one of the works that makes you see life in a different way, it's magical, magical. *I love seinen*
Got all the volumes of Vagabond myself. It does really well exploring the question of existentialism. Though having read Slam Dunk I came to expect excellency of mr. Inoue.
@@wirlwend He saw 2 episodes of the anime a while ago, but I know the manga is infinitely better, I'm wondering which manga to read next, maybe it's slam dunk.
Thors tried to teach Thorfinn a lesson about him having no enemies. But it's not a lesson that is easily understood by a child. Thorfinn had to grow up, experience a lifetime/46 episodes of hardship, to understand those words. I would even say that Thorfinn had a harsher story than Thors. We don't know exactly what happened, but it seems that Thors became a father, suddenly started fearing death, and then adopted the true warrior lifestyle. Meanwhile this all came naturally to Throfinn. Sure he had his father's guiding words to point him in the right direction. But he developed his distaste of killing, through years of senseless murder and ptsd taking their toll on him. But yeah, Thorfinn reached the point where his father started.
*Beginning:* 0:05 Episode 22; Girls already hate it here; Lola blames it on us 0:27 Milena still wanted to film all these episodes together 0:54 @Robert.H 's comment from patreon that each season is self contained arc 1:26 Milena wants different ending than s1 ep 24; no cliffhangers, want to wait in peace 2:34 Ylva and Ari; Who is Ari married to? 3:36 We don't have time, cant talk about Ari; 3:45 Thorfinn is gonna take 100 punches; Excited can't wait anymore *Reaction:* 4:19 Start; Snake should survive this season; Olmar 10x man 4:58 Punches 5:12 "Omfg I can't even watch it" 5:49 Wulf notices Thorfinn's skills 6:10 Violence should be last resort 6:45 Distraction 7:31 This could not have been resolved with just talks 7:50 Did you really try to talk? 8:19 Thorfinn's anger(brings so many memories from s1) 9:03 Ninety Eight 9:24 Thorfinn son of Thors, You are a true warrior 9:58 Why did you not strike back? Negotiator of peace 10:50 You are not my enemies...I have no enemies 11:35 Canute doesn't want war either(Epic OST) 11:45 Clear the way; Lola: "I will never watch anything like this in my life again" 12:04 Man who starts wars 12:23 Einar's strut makes Milena laugh; Pater 13:02 His majesty; Milena whispers: omg 13:26 I don't feel good 13:40 Eyes 14:20 Apologizing for scar 14:44 Four years are enough to change someone 15:31 O Chief of Vikings 16:31 Bringing heaven on earth 16:35 I am sovereign; My power knows no limits....stopping the waves. 17:29 Defying the wish of God 17:49 Look at us Vikings; We don't deserve to live in paradise 18:17 Saving the vikings; Unifying their strength to fight against God 19:02 Perspective of a commoner(einar) 20:05 What will you do Thorfinn? you cannot stop me, unless you kill me 20:27 End; *Review:* 20:35 NO words for what this was; We need pause after vinland but we don't have time left 20:54 From start to finish they don't stop; Cannot miss even a single line; Weight of each word; Millions of emotions 21:34 Milena could hear her heartbeats; Exhausting; Roller-coaster of emotions 21:59 Such complex themes/ideas and are even important today 22:27 nothing we'll ever say, no praise we sing for it will ever be enough 22:39 We knew nothing in s1 what this show was gonna be about; 23:03 Thorfinn's growth from s1 and now meeting with Canute; Without the s1, this season could not be this impactful 23:42 S1 feels like whole other life ago 23:53 The existential dread that Vinland can cause(in this case Lola); Bojack horseman 25:12 Not being able to process Thorfinn's character; He can be favorite character of all time for girls 25:40 Thorfinn still has a lot to learn; Endeavoring to find the First method 26:30 Snake and Thorfinn's exchange; Resorting to violence is easy 27:21 Thorfinn telling to Wulf that he wants to resolve dispute peacefully ;True warrior; 27:52 Thorfinn's speech to Wulf and others; Milena visibly struggling to put it all in words; Lola cried 500th time in this show 28:48 You are not my enemies; I have no enemies ; No reason to hold grudge(girls start to get emotional and teary eyed; perhaps the first time Milena gets emotional in a review) 29:55 Thorfinn's lived experiences 30:28 Thorfinn's idealism; Giving your best; Striving with all you have 31:29 Thorfinn acknowledges that he has a lot to learn; Him thinking Canute being incredible man; Saving Vikings 31:57 Thorfinn will keep learning; We hate vikings but also agree with Canute that Viking do need saving 32:50 Vikings growing up in a thriving and enabling environment; Product of environment; The Wire finale 33:43 Einar's perspective and Canute's perspective; People like Thorfinn are essential to a functioning society; 35:07 Yukimura has touched every point of view in story; Idealism and Realistic approaches 35:28 Canute is changing things; Him not allowing pillaging under his rule and justifying taking 100 lives; 36:19 Saving Vikings but killing others in process 36:56 Visuals of Canute, Thorfinn and Einar depicting different approach to same goal 37:19 Fascinating subjects and stories to watch from now on 38:05 Canute's stopping waves; Creation of Paradise; Phenomenal scene; Canute is not "evil" 39:02 Surrendering the farm so no need to kill canute; A compromise towards peace is ideal 40:49 Olmar in awe of Thorfinn; Olmar is a good person 42:16 Thorfinn being himself to bring change 42:35 Most ridiculous show; Kinda happy that we have break; Need time to process 42:52 Re-watch from beginning; In the comments section of the previous episode, @sacha. quoted Milena from episode 3 : "Show is gonna be great but its gonna be torture to watch"😆 43:38 To be fair, Girls did not have any idea what this could turn out to be 43:45 No idea that Thorfinn's arc could be so profound, esoteric, deep; 44:07 Milena quotes Thorfinn in episodes of other shows; We all are learning alongside Thorfinn; We all should become better persons;
The time between season 1 and 2 has been 3 years. And 4 in the story. Man. Is like a fantasy to think that in the time that we waited, the characters developet . Greetings from Colombia my girls!
I have no enemies, but everyone that understand with its heart The incredibly beautiful and important this Master piece is, can consider itself as my friend.
In concept Thorfinn and Canute had the same idea. They both know that the vikings are the problem. Thorfinn decided that the best course of action was to run away far from them and build a better place from zero. Canute decided to become their king, show them that he's a strong warrior worthy of being called King of Vikings, raiding and destroying his enemies to earn their respect. That way, little by little, he would change their traditions from the inside. The interesting thing is, that they're both right, and a middle point in their stances could be the real secret to achieve peace.
The Canute stopping the waves moment was inspired by a myth about the real life King Canute who thought he was so mighty he could command the waves to stop
RL Canute did it to prove a point and also to show humility in the presence of God. Basically humbling himself to those who claimed he was the greatest kind and other ass kissing praise lol
@@ramseyhassan9941 Well, of course a british school is not gonna be biased towards the guy that literally conquered them 😂. It's not really up to much interpretation, though. Considering the context in which he said it, it's clear he was just making a point.
@@Gaboxxy96 the context of the anime or myth? what Canute says in the anime is clear - the historical and myth not so much as they are different perspectives. All the best, sir
Thorfinn es uno de los personajes que más me ha influenciado, y espero que siga siendo así. Cuando escuche la pregunta sobre si alguna historia me impactó mucho, ahora sé qué responder. Esta serie me ha salvado la vida en un sentido muy íntimo por el camino transitado por sus protagonistas, el purgatorio de nuestro boy y su redención es algo tan bello e impactante que, simplemente, no me es indiferente. Sin duda, este episodio lo coloco entre los mejores que he visto en cualquier serie en general, sea animada o con imagen real, sea Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, GoT o Dark. Por ello, puedo imaginarme sus sensaciones, chicas, sin palabras ante lo que provoca este capítulo.
That bojack horseman comparison is pretty apt, despite its appearance and goofiness, but both shows make you feel for the characters and the scenarios. Both have a way of hitting deep emotions, the growth that comes from how good the writing and depth of the character development is
Same. But, the story already isn't getting the recognition it deserves, even from it's concurrent fanbase. People are just not ready for it, since it's so good that it simply surpasses basically all other stories in terms of how well it's written and adapted. I just wouldn't be surprised of some smooth brain anime wins anime of the year. Like CP Edgerunners, are you kidding me? Look i enjoyed it for what it was, but it was just such a brainless experience with next to no depth.
Thorfinn is the only who could’ve reached to the king like that so if he was dead or not on the farm and or not even in that specific state of mind then everyone there probably would’ve been killed or enslaved and every other attack Canute planned
Great Vinland Saga reaction, as usual. I can't wait to watch your next reactions. By the way, taking into account that you are getting closer and closer to the end of this second season, which means that there will be a gap to fill in your reactions schedule, I highly recommend that you both fill it out by choosing to react to the psychological thriller *Monster* It's a masterpiece that I think you'll both love for its great themes and characters, and I personally think it would be perfect for your amazing reactions.
Believe me. the next arc will be so GOOD! like.. the best story ever ever told. and thorfinns character development gets even better... be prepared! :)
@@somestuff7876 In reality too. People aren't born and don't become someone's enemies, they make enemies of themselves. The "I have no enemies" ideology is not about pretending that people don't fight each other and that wars exist, but rather about trying to make people who do that realize that it's unnecessary from the start. I know it's not that simple though, but it's still a teaching that can enlighten the thoughts of many people out there.
@@MoonS4444 I disagree. There is no difference between this message and "love thy neighbour". And how many people were sacrificed under Christian banner alone? ..Exactly. Sadly, theme of the manga did not jam well with me in the end, even through Thorfinn journey was well crafted in s2. The story makes favorable assumption about Rationality and Empathy of people who literally start wars. If we move the message to current day and age... Nothing can be gained in the war anymore (except for asserting dominance). Especially in that particular one and yet, we are freaking here. At best 10 man (better yet, first generation born after WWII. Generation that lived with one mantra: "Anything for a life without war"... can you be surrounded by more pacifism? idk) succumbed to greed or fear and now millions suffer. You could even argue that smaller war could have saved us all from a bigger one ffs Honestly, if manga/anime stayed in the lane of betterment of oneself and didn't brought up political angle at all (I'm assuming you know, but just in case SPOILERS for the next episode) or let Thorfinn "lose" and actually just let him wash his hands away with "well, I tried, guys". It would had bulletproof message with some weight of realism that would allow it to separate itself from being a rehash of the Bible.
@@somestuff7876 I somewhat agree on the conclusion at the end. the catharsis of Thorfinn's ideology could wait longer to happen, and in general you are free to think that way as I know not everyone will welcome it with such open arms. But "I have no enemies" is not the same as "everyone is my friend", so it is not completely similar to "love thy neighbor". In my view Thorfinn's ideology says about you not seeking to have enemies. Do your best not to harbor a hostile feeling towards someone, as it takes up too much of your life (as well as Thorfinn seeking revenge against Askelladd and I can even relate on that feeling). People will want to make enemies of others eventually, that's for sure. But there's no side that won't lose after that. Again, I know that applying such an ideology in real life is more like a utopia than anything else. It's not a solution to every problem, but an attempt at it. I'm sure many were influenced by this second season at least.
@@MoonS4444 True, to each their own. I'm not 100% sure it isn't just semantics at this point, but to me combo of the main message with the action that literally goes into "turning the other cheek" and That conclusion is very hard not to take it this way. Just saying how I read it, feels like this is "agree to disagree" type of a situation. Look, if Vinland Saga somehow was able to reach the target audience, and not just people who already agreed with the message, and did what other moral principles (and maybe Beatles heh) couldn't - than more power to the creator. I just wish that emphasis on mature themes that fans talked so much about would have hold true for the main theme. There were way more nuance to Thorfinn getting out of the hole storyline; Criminally underused Canute's balancing act and even Ketil's ability to be great "employer", entitled man, pitiable coward and despicable human being at the same time. p.s. "Run" or remove oneself out of the situation (if possible) is the best part of that advice. Especially for men.
I don’t think anyone is wrong in this situation thorfinn and canute want the same thing but thorfinns way does not fix the problem it only halts it canute is directly addressing the problem which are Vikings and by saving changing the Vikings it fixes the problem he saves the many with the cost of the few. From einar perspective he is apart of the few and is the sacrifice for paradise most people would sympathize with einar because we are part of the few. Canute being a king in this world would be hated regardless by a group no matter what choices he makes if he decided to do nothing the Vikings still are problematic and the few like einar would still blame the king for doing nothing. Whatever you do there is a cost imo canutes way is the only way and the right way if you want change if you don’t want change then your still doomed to Vikings anyway canute would be the cause of death either directly or indirectly by doing what he’s doing now or doing nothing I don’t read the manga but I honestly think thorfinn may help canute in his journey to achieve this as I think a true king and true warriors are what is needed to achieve paradise in this world.
it's my best episode of this magnificent season 2 its happening in all the emotions with a philosophy of pacifism and 2 different vision between thorfinn and cnute
The Vinland saga is coming to an end soon, isn't it? I don't understand English, but I love this video. Thank you for liking Japanese anime. Hunter Hunter is an anime from 25 years ago, but it's still fresh to watch now.
Lola is so fine, and I like her reaction, what Lola is feeling that she can't explain is self reflection, analyze yourself , turn a negative thought and turn it in something positive, a positive perspective, believe, courage... A word to describe the speech is powerful
Hm, I read it as Eren smiling at the confirmation that they all the same. Just humans. Who would think and act the same way no matter the circumstances.
Thorfinn really be like "I dont have any enemies" and the proceedes to take and harvest stolen land,while exposing natives to diseases they dont have defenses.
@@juliansanchezharris5773 i am following the manga to date, and i am aware that it may not be Thorfinn per se,but he open that path,and even ignoring the plague part, he still took foreign land,maybe not by force, but still
The coolest part about that line to me is that the episode ends with Thorfinn and Einar finding themselves in the very situation that hnefatafl and other games like it are meant to represent.
@@MrMetaVal when did I compare him like similar? I fo.pare him loke the opposite Thorfin : I have no enemies Eren: almost all the humanity are my enemies," if we kill our enemies .."
45° attempt recomending them to please watch Re:Zero, the insight they will give about the story and to Subaru will be amazing, you are not gonna regret it!!
if you guys want to watch another anime when u finish vinland saga u should watch jujutsu kaisen its really good, fun and not too heavy.Its really famous and was made by a woman so you dont need to worry about woman sexualization
I agree so much , this anime has the same impact than bojack. JUst want to say that Canute is wrong, he is willing to demonstrate a crazy amount of violence against innocent people just to take things from then and then say that it's for a great purpose. Like all the dictators in History.
Demon slayer is a very poor shift from well written shows like AOT and vinland saga or death note. I doubt they would be able to enjoy such traditional shounens. Mature animes are more suited for them. Next should be like monster or some other shows like evangelion.
@@jakeoriental8847 Evangelion is even more rough than Death Note in regards to treating it's female characters. In so called fanservice aspect at the very least.
What's their NXT reaction?? Is it demon Slayer?? I am waiting a whole lotta tym for their reaction on DS. If it is then, I gonna have to stick with this channel some tym.
@@LORDdrPepperyes he did because it’s amazing? Just because you like vinland saga doesn’t mean you won’t like a battle shonen. Currently airing season of jjk is some of best shonen i’ve read and i’m sure they would like a lot about it.
@@ozren8917 don't think they will be able to enjoy traditional shounens after watching seinens like vinland saga, AoT and death note. AOT, vinland saga etc are multi-layered animes with complex themes, ideologies and ideas in general. They are mature medias in particular. Jjk or demon slayer are typical shounen animes that are heavily relies on animation and flashy fights. Respective stories are there but are fixed within shounen bountries. Characters and themes are not that multi dimensional enough to provide great discussions like this. Just fights after fights, which is a very poor shift from quality writing like vinland and Aot. If anything chainsaw man has more complex characters and unique themes.
The I have no enemies speech is powerful, but ending a show with warlord stops fighting because a peasant asks him to and the whole " I will go to war with god" bit ruins the whole season some of the crappiest writing I have ever seen placed 30 seconds away from some of the best.
What part of it was crappy writing, Canute here isn’t just some random warlord and Thorfinn isn’t some random peasant, they have a connection and an understanding for each other’s goals. Canute made that decision as a character he was written to be not some textbook warlord. And i’m not sure what part about rebellion against God is bad writing when he himself explained his view very well both in this scene and back in s1.
@@ozren8917 the conversation in a nutshell was. Canute: you have to kill me to stop me, I must fight god(which by itself is idiotic.) Thorfin: please no Canute: you know what, your right. It was really dumb and I don't believe it at all
I'm not even exaggerating when I say that Thorfinn's character growth is the best I've seen this year. If this doesn't win Anime of the Year ... so be it. The jury is not my enemy.
hahaha. good one
Sadly all the shounen trash like Demon Slayer or Jujitsu Kaisen will win AOTY (not like the AOTY awards matter much tbh).
@@Zrs3820 Something isn't trash just because it's mainstream, Demon Slayer and JJK are both good in their own way. Vinland Saga is way better but it is what it is
@@Nagim-d3z Demon slayer is mid for real
@@Zrs3820jjk will get better this year just wait for it to come out
I’ve been watching this series with a friend of mine each week. He’s an anime only and while he really loved season 1 while we were watching in 2019, it didn’t make any of his favourite lists at the time. However just a few episodes ago (2x20) he had a real emotional breakdown that I’ve never seen from him before and he said “I wish I had Thorfinn when I was a teenager”.
He told me about the anger problems he had growing up, got into wrong crowds and got into a lot of trouble, and that it took him a looong time to break out of the downward spiral. After this episode he said that he has so rarely come across a story that handles self improvement and healthy masculinity soo effortlessly and Thorfinn almost certainly will become “my favourite character in anime”.
Thorfinn is without question one of the best examples of healthy masculinity out there. And yet as you said in your discussion, he is still a work in progress. He has soo much to learn, think about, and put into practice. 4 years is certainly a long time but it can happen in a blink of eye too and yet here he is. We finally see Thorfinn as himself. His true self. I can never fully articulate how much he means to me. Soo proud of this man ♥️
@@PyjamaKing This story really is precious. I have a lot of internet friends who have told me their stories of how VS has effected them. I’ve read soo many comments of people who write about how much this story means to them. However, the experience of having someone (whose very dear to me) right in front of me share their pain and how they feel this story is healing them? It was such a special experience that I’ll treasure forever. That’s the power of Yukimura’s story.
I was reading the manga in high school when I came across that scene in season 2 episode 9. It is now one of my core memories.
This story will change many lives and perspectives, I pray for everyone to watch this show. Thorfinn is a real man. I want to be more like him, and more like Jesus everyday.
I love Thorfinn so much. Especially after reading chapter 191, his story is without a doubt the most beautiful piece of literature I've ever read. It's such a wonderful message about atoning for the wrongs you've committed and improving yourself and rejecting mindless rage. I will carry Thorfinn with me for the rest of my life.
@@PurposelyGood Some people need life experience to actually get it that's why there's tons of people who liked s1 but hated the second because they found it unrealistic, which is absurd
ngl i started bawling when Thorfinn said "I don't have any enemies"
He goat l feel sad for them all king and poor woman 😢❤💔💔💔
It's fucking ridiculous how good this is. Watching this scene for the first time was an out of body experience. This is a type of story that only comes in a millenia. Incredible. Speechless. Goosebumps all around.
I also cry watching it.. and i already read the manga. But it is so beautiful… to follow his story from childhood to be able to understand his dad and saying that stuff….
Surely it is one of the most memorable scene in anime history
@@skylerwhereisthemoney746It's crazy. I didn't watch this show for a long time because I wasn't interested in just another action anime. Boy wad I wrong. This is one of the best shows of all time. Not just anime. I meant that.
@@splinter360 you should watch other shows apart from anime 😂
This is definitely the most impactful piece of media I've ever witnessed.
It was back for me when I read the manga 2 years ago, and still is with this adaptation. No piece of fiction has changed my life like Vinland Saga.
Mannnnn I’m just waiting for y’all to get to season 3 or pick up the manga. I couldn’t believe it either but it gets even better
The "I have no enemies" line still hits hard no matter how many times I've seen it. Thorfinn's character arc is one of the most impactful and beautiful things I've even seen and read. The author of Vinland Saga truly is something else.
The goats 6:35 😢
SPOILER: This hits as harder as “I forgive you” of manga’s chapter 191
Thorfinn really is the definition of “you do not understand the violence it took to be this fucking gentle”
This is why I appreciate the slow pacing of this show. It's an immersion. The audience learns important life lessons together with Thorfinn. Change just doesn't happen overnight for most people.
watching back the first few episodes of vinland saga after this is so different, thr author really knew since the beginning his purpose in writing this
Yeah, he said in the interview with Giguk that he starts writing from the ending
This season better win some awards, this show transcends the anime genre
I really recommend watching Mr. Yukimura's interview with Gigguk. The man has an absolute heart of gold.
This adaptation surpass what a simple seasonal anime is. This anime is pure art. The music, the voice acting, the drawing, etc. If you pause in any frame you will find an beautiful piece of art. This is animation, it’s not for Childs, it’s a beautiful demonstration of what humans can do
They're are so powerful poor boy 7:10
I'm sorry but nah. I agree that voice actors are doing a phenomenal job and the soundtrack is stellar, but the animation is really of average quality. And I say that with sadness in my heart because I really wanted this adaptation to be incredible since I love Vinland Saga. But it's just not much better than your average anime. An ideal adaptation deserved a movie-level budget for every episode. Oh well, Yukimura's manga is right there and has ACTUALLY incredible artwork.
The pure bafflement and solemn respect they have for thorfin at the end shows how poignant and how tough what thorfin went through
Guys, while it's been 4 years since Canute and Thorfinn's last meeting, it's been about 4 years since season 1 too.
Technically, 3 years. Season 1 ended in December 2019. And Season 2 started January 2023. So it was a 3 whole year wait.
@@talesofapre-sequel5647 hahaha yeah you caught me
Few things brings me more joy than hearing them saying they feel like better people after watching Vinland Saga and Full Metal Alchemist
This entire episode of Vinland Saga was just incredible. It's quite possibly one of the best episode I've seen of any anime. Almost everything in this episode was great in my opinion. You legit can feel the impact of everything that was building up to all the events in this episode.
- The Vikings even Drott having respect for Thorfinn as a true warrior.
- Thorfinn finally saying the words his father Thors wanted him to say and believe in all this time.
- Olmar admiring Thorfinn's determination and strength to fight for Ketil's farm without any violence. Plus Thorfinn showed him what a real man really is.
- Einar showing us the pain of an average person getting caught in the violence caused by ideals of people like Canute.
- Canute revealing his true ideals on how he will make his version of "Paradise" on earth.
This show made ALL other animes look silly to me. It's a masterpiece storytelling non stop machine.
Thorfinn, learning from askeladd and using his "provocation" tactics, was such a good scene.
Vinland Saga just brings out every emotion out of you. I have no words to describe how beautiful this show is
Oh man we've really come full circle haven't we
Episode 22/23 are way too incredible, the best Season of Anime ever.
I have to admit that hearing Thorfinn lose it again was so satisfying. His voice actor is just *chefs kiss*
Vinland saga can have a single line of dialogue and it’s like a bomb going off in any other show.
Thorfinn changed my perspective on life when he was taking to snake.
Now every time I have a disagreement with someone I'm close to, I ask myself, am I really trying? Am I actually saying everything I possibly can to resolve the situation, rather than just protecting myself?
For these reasons I love art so much, vinland saga is a masterpiece, one of the best works I've ever seen, and there are few works that do so much good for human existentialism, each person has their own, mine is a manga, vagbond , there's no anime, but that's not the point (yet), it's one of the works that makes you see life in a different way, it's magical, magical.
*I love seinen*
Got all the volumes of Vagabond myself. It does really well exploring the question of existentialism. Though having read Slam Dunk I came to expect excellency of mr. Inoue.
@@wirlwend I love miura but inoue has become my favourite, I need to read Slam dunk and Real by the same man is awesome.
@@Diegopsy Slam Dunk was a great experience! I recommend it!
@@wirlwend He saw 2 episodes of the anime a while ago, but I know the manga is infinitely better, I'm wondering which manga to read next, maybe it's slam dunk.
This show is a masterpiece.
Thors tried to teach Thorfinn a lesson about him having no enemies. But it's not a lesson that is easily understood by a child. Thorfinn had to grow up, experience a lifetime/46 episodes of hardship, to understand those words. I would even say that Thorfinn had a harsher story than Thors. We don't know exactly what happened, but it seems that Thors became a father, suddenly started fearing death, and then adopted the true warrior lifestyle. Meanwhile this all came naturally to Throfinn. Sure he had his father's guiding words to point him in the right direction. But he developed his distaste of killing, through years of senseless murder and ptsd taking their toll on him. But yeah, Thorfinn reached the point where his father started.
*Beginning:*
0:05 Episode 22; Girls already hate it here; Lola blames it on us
0:27 Milena still wanted to film all these episodes together
0:54 @Robert.H 's comment from patreon that each season is self contained arc
1:26 Milena wants different ending than s1 ep 24; no cliffhangers, want to wait in peace
2:34 Ylva and Ari; Who is Ari married to?
3:36 We don't have time, cant talk about Ari;
3:45 Thorfinn is gonna take 100 punches; Excited can't wait anymore
*Reaction:*
4:19 Start; Snake should survive this season; Olmar 10x man
4:58 Punches
5:12 "Omfg I can't even watch it"
5:49 Wulf notices Thorfinn's skills
6:10 Violence should be last resort
6:45 Distraction
7:31 This could not have been resolved with just talks
7:50 Did you really try to talk?
8:19 Thorfinn's anger(brings so many memories from s1)
9:03 Ninety Eight
9:24 Thorfinn son of Thors, You are a true warrior
9:58 Why did you not strike back? Negotiator of peace
10:50 You are not my enemies...I have no enemies
11:35 Canute doesn't want war either(Epic OST)
11:45 Clear the way; Lola: "I will never watch anything like this in my life again"
12:04 Man who starts wars
12:23 Einar's strut makes Milena laugh; Pater
13:02 His majesty; Milena whispers: omg
13:26 I don't feel good
13:40 Eyes
14:20 Apologizing for scar
14:44 Four years are enough to change someone
15:31 O Chief of Vikings
16:31 Bringing heaven on earth
16:35 I am sovereign; My power knows no limits....stopping the waves.
17:29 Defying the wish of God
17:49 Look at us Vikings; We don't deserve to live in paradise
18:17 Saving the vikings; Unifying their strength to fight against God
19:02 Perspective of a commoner(einar)
20:05 What will you do Thorfinn? you cannot stop me, unless you kill me
20:27 End;
*Review:*
20:35 NO words for what this was; We need pause after vinland but we don't have time left
20:54 From start to finish they don't stop; Cannot miss even a single line; Weight of each word; Millions of emotions
21:34 Milena could hear her heartbeats; Exhausting; Roller-coaster of emotions
21:59 Such complex themes/ideas and are even important today
22:27 nothing we'll ever say, no praise we sing for it will ever be enough
22:39 We knew nothing in s1 what this show was gonna be about;
23:03 Thorfinn's growth from s1 and now meeting with Canute; Without the s1, this season could not be this impactful
23:42 S1 feels like whole other life ago
23:53 The existential dread that Vinland can cause(in this case Lola); Bojack horseman
25:12 Not being able to process Thorfinn's character; He can be favorite character of all time for girls
25:40 Thorfinn still has a lot to learn; Endeavoring to find the First method
26:30 Snake and Thorfinn's exchange; Resorting to violence is easy
27:21 Thorfinn telling to Wulf that he wants to resolve dispute peacefully ;True warrior;
27:52 Thorfinn's speech to Wulf and others; Milena visibly struggling to put it all in words; Lola cried 500th time in this show
28:48 You are not my enemies; I have no enemies ; No reason to hold grudge(girls start to get emotional and teary eyed; perhaps the first time Milena gets emotional in a review)
29:55 Thorfinn's lived experiences
30:28 Thorfinn's idealism; Giving your best; Striving with all you have
31:29 Thorfinn acknowledges that he has a lot to learn; Him thinking Canute being incredible man; Saving Vikings
31:57 Thorfinn will keep learning; We hate vikings but also agree with Canute that Viking do need saving
32:50 Vikings growing up in a thriving and enabling environment; Product of environment; The Wire finale
33:43 Einar's perspective and Canute's perspective; People like Thorfinn are essential to a functioning society;
35:07 Yukimura has touched every point of view in story; Idealism and Realistic approaches
35:28 Canute is changing things; Him not allowing pillaging under his rule and justifying taking 100 lives;
36:19 Saving Vikings but killing others in process
36:56 Visuals of Canute, Thorfinn and Einar depicting different approach to same goal
37:19 Fascinating subjects and stories to watch from now on
38:05 Canute's stopping waves; Creation of Paradise; Phenomenal scene; Canute is not "evil"
39:02 Surrendering the farm so no need to kill canute; A compromise towards peace is ideal
40:49 Olmar in awe of Thorfinn; Olmar is a good person
42:16 Thorfinn being himself to bring change
42:35 Most ridiculous show; Kinda happy that we have break; Need time to process
42:52 Re-watch from beginning; In the comments section of the previous episode, @sacha. quoted Milena from episode 3 : "Show is gonna be great but its gonna be torture to watch"😆
43:38 To be fair, Girls did not have any idea what this could turn out to be
43:45 No idea that Thorfinn's arc could be so profound, esoteric, deep;
44:07 Milena quotes Thorfinn in episodes of other shows; We all are learning alongside Thorfinn; We all should become better persons;
The time between season 1 and 2 has been 3 years. And 4 in the story. Man. Is like a fantasy to think that in the time that we waited, the characters developet . Greetings from Colombia my girls!
This is the second season and Thorfinn has grown THIS much. Its so crazy
I have no enemies, but everyone that understand with its heart The incredibly beautiful and important this Master piece is, can consider itself as my friend.
In concept Thorfinn and Canute had the same idea. They both know that the vikings are the problem. Thorfinn decided that the best course of action was to run away far from them and build a better place from zero. Canute decided to become their king, show them that he's a strong warrior worthy of being called King of Vikings, raiding and destroying his enemies to earn their respect. That way, little by little, he would change their traditions from the inside. The interesting thing is, that they're both right, and a middle point in their stances could be the real secret to achieve peace.
The Canute stopping the waves moment was inspired by a myth about the real life King Canute who thought he was so mighty he could command the waves to stop
RL Canute did it to prove a point and also to show humility in the presence of God. Basically humbling himself to those who claimed he was the greatest kind and other ass kissing praise lol
@@werewolfhunter1347 There are lots of interpretations - the ego one was what i learned in ny british school. good day to you x
@@ramseyhassan9941 Well, of course a british school is not gonna be biased towards the guy that literally conquered them 😂. It's not really up to much interpretation, though. Considering the context in which he said it, it's clear he was just making a point.
@@Gaboxxy96 the context of the anime or myth? what Canute says in the anime is clear - the historical and myth not so much as they are different perspectives. All the best, sir
@@ramseyhassan9941 if the british said so ..safe to say its a lie
Thorfinn es uno de los personajes que más me ha influenciado, y espero que siga siendo así. Cuando escuche la pregunta sobre si alguna historia me impactó mucho, ahora sé qué responder. Esta serie me ha salvado la vida en un sentido muy íntimo por el camino transitado por sus protagonistas, el purgatorio de nuestro boy y su redención es algo tan bello e impactante que, simplemente, no me es indiferente. Sin duda, este episodio lo coloco entre los mejores que he visto en cualquier serie en general, sea animada o con imagen real, sea Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, GoT o Dark. Por ello, puedo imaginarme sus sensaciones, chicas, sin palabras ante lo que provoca este capítulo.
YO NO TENGO FOCKING ENEMIGOS DIJO EL THORFINN
That bojack horseman comparison is pretty apt, despite its appearance and goofiness, but both shows make you feel for the characters and the scenarios. Both have a way of hitting deep emotions, the growth that comes from how good the writing and depth of the character development is
Season 2 is a masterpiece.
And alot lot of people won't ever understand. They just want action😂
@@antviper135 I used to kind of be that way. Shows like VS really made me start liking the more slow burn, character building shows
I feel the same about the show. Simply "the masterpiece".
The adventure of thorfin with einar is absolutely good this is the one of the best real adventure story that i watch ❤️
I love hearing your thoughts about the show and just how important it is. I totally agree
if vinland saga doesnt win the anime of the year award, i will really be disappointed
Same. But, the story already isn't getting the recognition it deserves, even from it's concurrent fanbase. People are just not ready for it, since it's so good that it simply surpasses basically all other stories in terms of how well it's written and adapted.
I just wouldn't be surprised of some smooth brain anime wins anime of the year. Like CP Edgerunners, are you kidding me? Look i enjoyed it for what it was, but it was just such a brainless experience with next to no depth.
Thorfinn is the only who could’ve reached to the king like that so if he was dead or not on the farm and or not even in that specific state of mind then everyone there probably would’ve been killed or enslaved and every other attack Canute planned
Great Vinland Saga reaction, as usual. I can't wait to watch your next reactions.
By the way, taking into account that you are getting closer and closer to the end of this second season, which means that there will be a gap to fill in your reactions schedule, I highly recommend that you both fill it out by choosing to react to the psychological thriller *Monster*
It's a masterpiece that I think you'll both love for its great themes and characters, and I personally think it would be perfect for your amazing reactions.
Believe me. the next arc will be so GOOD! like.. the best story ever ever told. and thorfinns character development gets even better... be prepared! :)
I am kind of happy that there are people whom do not understand why what Thorfinn said was so beautiful... to me, it means.... they do not know war
27:50 i understand this so well, beautiful just isn't enough
anybody in the anime: Hello
them: 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
11:07 HE SAID ITTTTTT
My man Thorfinn on his Jesus arc, converting people by getting punched in the face lol
We don't have enemies, my people.
In theory? Absolutely. In reality... tell me, for e.g., what Ukrainians could do with that information?
@@somestuff7876 In reality too. People aren't born and don't become someone's enemies, they make enemies of themselves. The "I have no enemies" ideology is not about pretending that people don't fight each other and that wars exist, but rather about trying to make people who do that realize that it's unnecessary from the start. I know it's not that simple though, but it's still a teaching that can enlighten the thoughts of many people out there.
@@MoonS4444 I disagree. There is no difference between this message and "love thy neighbour".
And how many people were sacrificed under Christian banner alone? ..Exactly.
Sadly, theme of the manga did not jam well with me in the end, even through Thorfinn journey was well crafted in s2.
The story makes favorable assumption about Rationality and Empathy of people who literally start wars. If we move the message to current day and age... Nothing can be gained in the war anymore (except for asserting dominance). Especially in that particular one and yet, we are freaking here. At best 10 man (better yet, first generation born after WWII. Generation that lived with one mantra: "Anything for a life without war"... can you be surrounded by more pacifism? idk) succumbed to greed or fear and now millions suffer. You could even argue that smaller war could have saved us all from a bigger one ffs
Honestly, if manga/anime stayed in the lane of betterment of oneself and didn't brought up political angle at all (I'm assuming you know, but just in case SPOILERS for the next episode) or let Thorfinn "lose" and actually just let him wash his hands away with "well, I tried, guys". It would had bulletproof message with some weight of realism that would allow it to separate itself from being a rehash of the Bible.
@@somestuff7876 I somewhat agree on the conclusion at the end. the catharsis of Thorfinn's ideology could wait longer to happen, and in general you are free to think that way as I know not everyone will welcome it with such open arms. But "I have no enemies" is not the same as "everyone is my friend", so it is not completely similar to "love thy neighbor". In my view Thorfinn's ideology says about you not seeking to have enemies. Do your best not to harbor a hostile feeling towards someone, as it takes up too much of your life (as well as Thorfinn seeking revenge against Askelladd and I can even relate on that feeling). People will want to make enemies of others eventually, that's for sure. But there's no side that won't lose after that. Again, I know that applying such an ideology in real life is more like a utopia than anything else. It's not a solution to every problem, but an attempt at it. I'm sure many were influenced by this second season at least.
@@MoonS4444 True, to each their own. I'm not 100% sure it isn't just semantics at this point, but to me combo of the main message with the action that literally goes into "turning the other cheek" and That conclusion is very hard not to take it this way. Just saying how I read it, feels like this is "agree to disagree" type of a situation.
Look, if Vinland Saga somehow was able to reach the target audience, and not just people who already agreed with the message, and did what other moral principles (and maybe Beatles heh) couldn't - than more power to the creator.
I just wish that emphasis on mature themes that fans talked so much about would have hold true for the main theme. There were way more nuance to Thorfinn getting out of the hole storyline; Criminally underused Canute's balancing act and even Ketil's ability to be great "employer", entitled man, pitiable coward and despicable human being at the same time.
p.s. "Run" or remove oneself out of the situation (if possible) is the best part of that advice. Especially for men.
I don’t think anyone is wrong in this situation thorfinn and canute want the same thing but thorfinns way does not fix the problem it only halts it canute is directly addressing the problem which are Vikings and by saving changing the Vikings it fixes the problem he saves the many with the cost of the few. From einar perspective he is apart of the few and is the sacrifice for paradise most people would sympathize with einar because we are part of the few. Canute being a king in this world would be hated regardless by a group no matter what choices he makes if he decided to do nothing the Vikings still are problematic and the few like einar would still blame the king for doing nothing. Whatever you do there is a cost imo canutes way is the only way and the right way if you want change if you don’t want change then your still doomed to Vikings anyway canute would be the cause of death either directly or indirectly by doing what he’s doing now or doing nothing I don’t read the manga but I honestly think thorfinn may help canute in his journey to achieve this as I think a true king and true warriors are what is needed to achieve paradise in this world.
That's literally what they said
That's what I'm talking about , that's why he's the Mvp ,that's why he's the GOAT !
I swear the last 10 episodes of s2 made me cry
When you exercise, you get exhausted, thats how muscles(you) grow ;]
it's my best episode of this magnificent season 2 its happening in all the emotions with a philosophy of pacifism and 2 different vision between thorfinn and cnute
cant wait for their 2x23 reaction
Please watch Monster after Vinland Saga, I want to listen to one hour discussions of Monster for every episode!!!
He's so GOATED
The Vinland saga is coming to an end soon, isn't it? I don't understand English, but I love this video. Thank you for liking Japanese anime. Hunter Hunter is an anime from 25 years ago, but it's still fresh to watch now.
Oh shit havent seen yall since death note. Glad to be back on board. Now to go binge these to catch up.
Lola is so fine, and I like her reaction, what Lola is feeling that she can't explain is self reflection, analyze yourself , turn a negative thought and turn it in something positive, a positive perspective, believe, courage... A word to describe the speech is powerful
32:52 and then Eren hears "those words" and goes berserk on Liberio...!!
Hm, I read it as Eren smiling at the confirmation that they all the same. Just humans. Who would think and act the same way no matter the circumstances.
こんにちは！自動翻訳の力を借りて、こちらの番組を観ています。
もうすぐシーズン２が終わってしまうのが寂しい。どうか、シーズン３も制作されるよう、祈って居ます。
次の23話が待ちきれない気持ちです。
後２話。素晴らしいリアクション、感想を楽しみにしています。
私は漫画で最新の27巻まで読んで居ますが、なんとかして、ここまでアニメ化してほしいと願っています。
i need episode 24 😢
Thorfinn really be like "I dont have any enemies" and the proceedes to take and harvest stolen land,while exposing natives to diseases they dont have defenses.
pretty sure that was europeans later on in historym so no. but yeah.. i recommend reading arc 4 someday.
@@juliansanchezharris5773 i am following the manga to date, and i am aware that it may not be Thorfinn per se,but he open that path,and even ignoring the plague part, he still took foreign land,maybe not by force, but still
@@cmm0120 sharing is caring. Everything was fine and dandy til... well. You know when.
"i will never watch anything like this in my life again"
this is true...
I’m curious if anyone besides me knew what hnefatafl was lol.
The coolest part about that line to me is that the episode ends with Thorfinn and Einar finding themselves in the very situation that hnefatafl and other games like it are meant to represent.
@@TryingExtraHard I thought about that too! Totally surrounded and the win condition is to run away, something Thorfinn recently learned to value.
@@crumdogyi think only nordic people know
Thorfinn is an ideal human
0:05
I swear a cried a lot. Thorfinn 🫶🏽
Oh my god! Bojack is the perfect example
No one have any enemies at all.
Peak, Peak, Peak
Nothing else to say
😂 suffer with us waiting for new episodes!!
Peakland saga 😩❤
We should not have any enemies
Anime of the year i won’t accept anything else
Great episode
you guys all have no pity for Drott... poor guy tries his best while having asthma😢
All human misery is due to envy
i have no enemies
He said the thing
Eren is the dark side of thorfin
Eren is S1 Thorfinn but becomes S2 Thorfinn in Chapter 139
エレンはs1のトルフィンであり、クヌートでもあります。
s2のトルフィンはアルミン。
進撃の巨人とヴィンランド・サガの本質は同じ😊
not at all lol he's nowhere comparable to Thorfinn
@@MrMetaVal when did I compare him like similar? I fo.pare him loke the opposite
Thorfin : I have no enemies
Eren: almost all the humanity are my enemies," if we kill our enemies .."
@@mmor7380 it was meant to Lym not you, I don't know what happened the @ isn't even there my bad
Ouu Bojack horseman is somethin....
gotta wait 1 month for you to post again..
13 本の動画
再生中
すべて再生
ヴィンランドサガが終わったらこの二人には「宇宙より遠い場所（A Place Further Than The Universe）」をリアクションしてほしいな。
Peak saga
45° attempt recomending them to please watch Re:Zero, the insight they will give about the story and to Subaru will be amazing, you are not gonna regret it!!
The main issue is some of the fanservice
@@rinkusan978 Re:zero doesnt have a lot of fanservice, and is never something that they focus more than a couple of seconds
if you guys want to watch another anime when u finish vinland saga u should watch jujutsu kaisen its really good, fun and not too heavy.Its really famous and was made by a woman so you dont need to worry about woman sexualization
Next one is Cryland saga
I agree so much , this anime has the same impact than bojack.
JUst want to say that Canute is wrong, he is willing to demonstrate a crazy amount of violence against innocent people just to take things from then and then say that it's for a great purpose. Like all the dictators in History.
At long last, Thorfinn and Cunute gets to meet each other again.
Good, now they can get married!
lol Ao3 withdrawal?
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Why don't you start watching demon slayer? ☹️
they are not kid
Demon slayer is a very poor shift from well written shows like AOT and vinland saga or death note.
I doubt they would be able to enjoy such traditional shounens. Mature animes are more suited for them. Next should be like monster or some other shows like evangelion.
Why don't you recommend something better? ☹️
@@jakeoriental8847 Evangelion is even more rough than Death Note in regards to treating it's female characters. In so called fanservice aspect at the very least.
@@somestuff7876 yeah like hospital scene for example.
What's their NXT reaction?? Is it demon Slayer?? I am waiting a whole lotta tym for their reaction on DS. If it is then, I gonna have to stick with this channel some tym.
Ds is trash
Canute is so dramatic like who made you the messiah ? So self righteous and out of touch
You should start watching jujutsu kaisen pleaseeee
You did not just recomend a generic ass action shonen after they reacted to this episode
@@LORDdrPepperyes he did because it’s amazing? Just because you like vinland saga doesn’t mean you won’t like a battle shonen. Currently airing season of jjk is some of best shonen i’ve read and i’m sure they would like a lot about it.
@@ozren8917 don't think they will be able to enjoy traditional shounens after watching seinens like vinland saga, AoT and death note.
AOT, vinland saga etc are multi-layered animes with complex themes, ideologies and ideas in general. They are mature medias in particular.
Jjk or demon slayer are typical shounen animes that are heavily relies on animation and flashy fights. Respective stories are there but are fixed within shounen bountries. Characters and themes are not that multi dimensional enough to provide great discussions like this. Just fights after fights, which is a very poor shift from quality writing like vinland and Aot.
If anything chainsaw man has more complex characters and unique themes.
@@jakeoriental8847uh... AOT and Death Note are not seinens, they're shounens. I think they should definitely watch Monster next.
@@LymLevolveonagree on Monster, also a masterpiece! Aot doesn’t at all feel like a typical shonen, you must agree on that
The I have no enemies speech is powerful, but ending a show with warlord stops fighting because a peasant asks him to and the whole " I will go to war with god" bit ruins the whole season some of the crappiest writing I have ever seen placed 30 seconds away from some of the best.
What part of it was crappy writing, Canute here isn’t just some random warlord and Thorfinn isn’t some random peasant, they have a connection and an understanding for each other’s goals. Canute made that decision as a character he was written to be not some textbook warlord. And i’m not sure what part about rebellion against God is bad writing when he himself explained his view very well both in this scene and back in s1.
@@ozren8917 the conversation in a nutshell was.
Canute: you have to kill me to stop me, I must fight god(which by itself is idiotic.)
Thorfin: please no
Canute: you know what, your right.
It was really dumb and I don't believe it at all