“Order Simplification”. Translation: “To get the one or two options that you actually want you need to buy a multi-thousand dollar ‘simplified’ package that contains 90% stuff you don’t want but we make you pay for anyway”. These car companies truly honestly believe that people do not see through this bullshit.
The vast majority of vehicles are ordered by dealers anyways, with certain packages and options that they feel would yield them the most traffic or profitability. All this is doing is moving that decision to the OEM from the dealer (though for that very small number who order their vehicles, it will have a certain effect depending on how those options are packaged in).
Different animals (Raptor vs Tremor...Not figuratively, just by design) (and very different costs if you are smart about it). It is interesting that last year when I ordered my 23 Tremor (I chose the Coyote so I could get it sooner, and another reason or two I will reveal shortly) (there was no price difference just a wait-time difference). The year before, the Coyote was the base model with the V-6 TT as an upgrade. People talk about all these problems with the Coyote, but I think Ford ironed most of those out, based on my experience. I get better combined mpg than my friends with the TT (I'm at about 20.9 over the last 3k miles since not using Sport Mode much and I live at almost 6,000 feet). I could probably write pages, but one of the reasons I bought the Coyote was because I planned to supercharge it...Then 20+ mpg happened. I'm a little conflicted right now. Another reason is that Toyota dropped the 5.7 and recovery hooks. I sold my 2013 Rock Warrior to my company, and it is the best truck in the fleet at my office. That truck had two major flaws...No rear locker, and bad mpg. Peace, Love!!
Most of those trails have been handled by two wheel drive vehicles. These manufacturers really need to make trails that challenge their vehicles if they believe in them.
Would I rather have a Raptor or Tremor? How about an XL with the rear locker for $13k less? A good lift kit and tires and you still come out ahead by several thousand dollars.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566agreed. I grabbed a Wrangler JLU Sport S a couple years ago for under $40k. Even after two lifts (first a cheap puck spacer lift, then a true suspension lift), a regear, 35s, some Willys takeoffs wheels, wheel spacers, Rubicon takeoff rock rails, fox steering stabilizer, shocks, and several other mods I can't think of, I'm in it for less than $10k in mods (spread out over the last 3 years) and well under $50k spent total. The new Rubis are going for like $60k, and I didn't have to finance an incredible amount to do it.
@@backwoodstherapy wow this really is like financing but the cool way because you don't pay interest and you get to modify your vehicle and see how it evolves
Thank you! I only drove the tremor for a very short time on road and we were aired down so can’t comment much. Definitely quieter than the raptor though! -Liam
I ordered the 24 tremor but I am having second thoughts now that the Ram RHO coming out and has a supposedly similar payload. I might just cancel my tremor order and wait until next year.
To me, it's not which one is best on the trails. It's which one is good on trails, but good on long road trips, and good for towing, and good around town. Most of us can't own multiple trucks. We only get one, and that one has to do multiple tasks. The Raptor R is single focused, like a laser beam, on Baja type of road adventures. But I need a truck I can tow my trailer to Alaska comfortably. And then do some of the great off road driving in AK like the Top of the World and the Dalton Highway, leaving the trailer safely behind in Fairbanks or wherever.
Own the Raptor, have driven the driven the Tremor. The only reason I can think of to get a Tremor is cost AND not wanting to build an offroad capable truck yourself. This being youtube comments, I'm sure someone will chime in with a corner case making the Tremor preferred. :D
Don’t want to mod a truck, keep warranty, tow, and fit in parking lots. Yeah tremor costs as much as a lariat. But they are all overpriced. At least raptor keeps its value especially since most people mall crawl it.
I want to buy a new car. Do you recommend buying a Ford F-150 V8 5.0 or a Ram Dodge? I would like to know which is better in the long run, has fewer problems, and has less fuel consumption.
I would liked to have seen BOTH trucks do the same things off-road and then both in the desert. Either one of these trucks can be fun, but wow, the prices are beyond mindboggling. I remember as a kid back in the '60s I told my dad that the way things are going a Ford pickup will some day cost over a 100-grand. Sadly I was right. Both are WAY OVER PRICED, especially the Raptor (and Raptor R), and are out of reach for most potential buyers. Which also makes me wonder if buyers who really can't afford one, buys one anyway, then beats the heck out of it for a year or two, and then sells it to get out from under the payments.
I've had 3 3.5tt eb's I've had no real problems with any.....lots of recalls on the 21 tho. My next truck.....I'm gonna get the 5L just for something different again. I was gonna order the 21 with it but the cylinder deactivation scared me(previous tro7bles with a Chev 6.2L).
@@Mr504BLACKMAN They don't currently make a Ranger Tremor, instead a RR toy truck with an interior for 5 year olds and an exhaust note that appeals to Import Tuner's from 1997. The Maverick Tremor can't tow a track car. Or I would.
Ford comes up with gimmick names like no other company I know of. Raptor. Tremor, Badlands, sasquatch. They don't creat a good vehicle then work to create different versions which then earn badges, as jeep does and did with the wrangler. The wrangler was the wrangler. Then they came out with Sahara, then Rubicon, then 392. Dodge had the challenger, came out with different built versions which they worked on for years. That's the way you earn a badge. Ford, on the other hand, creates five versions instantly and gives them badges that are outrageous and unworthy and unearned. I find this to be cringe on the part of Ford, and I don't understand how people fall for this stuff
These carefully crafted and manipulated “manufacturer events” and just useless. They provide zero challenge. Pity they did not also include a base truck with no options. Guaranteed it would have performed exactly the same.
Watch us take the updated Ford Raptor R through mud, rocks and water back in Canada right here: ua-cam.com/video/JYG-Tbp4G9o/v-deo.html
“Order Simplification”. Translation: “To get the one or two options that you actually want you need to buy a multi-thousand dollar ‘simplified’ package that contains 90% stuff you don’t want but we make you pay for anyway”. These car companies truly honestly believe that people do not see through this bullshit.
That’s the best way to lower costs
The vast majority of vehicles are ordered by dealers anyways, with certain packages and options that they feel would yield them the most traffic or profitability. All this is doing is moving that decision to the OEM from the dealer (though for that very small number who order their vehicles, it will have a certain effect depending on how those options are packaged in).
@@0223Jeremy Best way to maximize profits.
@@0223Jeremy Yes, that's why 2024 trucks are so inexpensive!
Toyota is the worst with this. You want bed lights in your Tacoma? That's 50 grand.
Liam is a natural host. Nice video.
Good to see more of Liam! Great video!
Of course you would like Liam....right Liam!? lol
As usual, thanks for watching!
Love what Ford is doing!! This review was awesome!! Great job hope you get to do more videos!! Truckking should be proud.
Great job Liam !! Your not only a fantastic videographer but also a great reviewer!!!!!
Thanks 👍
Good job! Hopefully we get to see more of you on the front end some more!
As much as I like the Raptors, I'd go with the Tremor. The Tremor needs 35s tho. Great video, Liam! Hope to see more of you in future vids.
Awesome job Liam! That course looked so sick! Of course the raptor is a beast too! You must have had a blast!
Thanks so much! The course was great, little bit of everything. -Liam
Great job on the video. Good job on working through your nervousness to give it gas
Well done. Thanks.
You did a great job! I hope you get to be in front of the camera more often. Truck King is my favourite auto channel.(sorry TFL).
So you're not just "eye candy" after all. LOL Great job man, keep up the amazing reviews.
Different animals (Raptor vs Tremor...Not figuratively, just by design) (and very different costs if you are smart about it). It is interesting that last year when I ordered my 23 Tremor (I chose the Coyote so I could get it sooner, and another reason or two I will reveal shortly) (there was no price difference just a wait-time difference). The year before, the Coyote was the base model with the V-6 TT as an upgrade.
People talk about all these problems with the Coyote, but I think Ford ironed most of those out, based on my experience. I get better combined mpg than my friends with the TT (I'm at about 20.9 over the last 3k miles since not using Sport Mode much and I live at almost 6,000 feet). I could probably write pages, but one of the reasons I bought the Coyote was because I planned to supercharge it...Then 20+ mpg happened. I'm a little conflicted right now. Another reason is that Toyota dropped the 5.7 and recovery hooks. I sold my 2013 Rock Warrior to my company, and it is the best truck in the fleet at my office. That truck had two major flaws...No rear locker, and bad mpg. Peace, Love!!
Excellent video. You need to do more Liam.
How was the Tremor during the highway drive to the dirt, smooth, quiet, comfortable, compared to the Platinum or others?
they are all similar
Most of those trails have been handled by two wheel drive vehicles. These manufacturers really need to make trails that challenge their vehicles if they believe in them.
They need more EXTREME courses to show these JOURNALISTS how REAL men drive
Would I rather have a Raptor or Tremor? How about an XL with the rear locker for $13k less? A good lift kit and tires and you still come out ahead by several thousand dollars.
Yeah these trucks are money printers for Ford. An XL with the Coyote, rear locker and some mods and you're cheaper off and way more capable.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566agreed. I grabbed a Wrangler JLU Sport S a couple years ago for under $40k. Even after two lifts (first a cheap puck spacer lift, then a true suspension lift), a regear, 35s, some Willys takeoffs wheels, wheel spacers, Rubicon takeoff rock rails, fox steering stabilizer, shocks, and several other mods I can't think of, I'm in it for less than $10k in mods (spread out over the last 3 years) and well under $50k spent total. The new Rubis are going for like $60k, and I didn't have to finance an incredible amount to do it.
@@backwoodstherapy wow this really is like financing but the cool way because you don't pay interest and you get to modify your vehicle and see how it evolves
Yawn…..boring. This video is not for you.
As long as that is what you want. If you’re paying $60k then get what you want.
Liam you luck devil getting to drive the Raptor R. Good job.
Liam, One makes you Tremble with excitement while the other sends you into Raptures . 🤔😉
You did so well! I know Raptor is still better off road. But which one is better on road, noise, ride quality etc.
Thank you! I only drove the tremor for a very short time on road and we were aired down so can’t comment much. Definitely quieter than the raptor though! -Liam
I ordered the 24 tremor but I am having second thoughts now that the Ram RHO coming out and has a supposedly similar payload. I might just cancel my tremor order and wait until next year.
To me, it's not which one is best on the trails. It's which one is good on trails, but good on long road trips, and good for towing, and good around town. Most of us can't own multiple trucks. We only get one, and that one has to do multiple tasks. The Raptor R is single focused, like a laser beam, on Baja type of road adventures. But I need a truck I can tow my trailer to Alaska comfortably. And then do some of the great off road driving in AK like the Top of the World and the Dalton Highway, leaving the trailer safely behind in Fairbanks or wherever.
If you can't afford one of these vehicles, a PlayStation and a 70in tv is just as good.
Well done Liam.
Nice video !
Good on ya bloke all good bro
Own the Raptor, have driven the driven the Tremor. The only reason I can think of to get a Tremor is cost AND not wanting to build an offroad capable truck yourself. This being youtube comments, I'm sure someone will chime in with a corner case making the Tremor preferred. :D
Don’t want to mod a truck, keep warranty, tow, and fit in parking lots. Yeah tremor costs as much as a lariat.
But they are all overpriced. At least raptor keeps its value especially since most people mall crawl it.
Are the raptor seats more comfortable?
11:27
How can the base Raptor have better ground-clearance than the Raptor R?
In my opinion the Tremor is the sweet spot.
Did a good job
Wish they would make the 5.0 NA available in the Raptor.
Is the Raptor 35 Package or 37 Package?
Why compare to raptor R. Should be base raptor
I want to buy a new car. Do you recommend buying a Ford F-150 V8 5.0 or a Ram Dodge? I would like to know which is better in the long run, has fewer problems, and has less fuel consumption.
Is the F-150 Tremor with V8 Engine Available in 2024 Models?
Yes
Dude is given a free Raptor and told he needs to go faster. Not once but 4 or more times. Kinda Sad🤷🏻♂️
I would liked to have seen BOTH trucks do the same things off-road and then both in the desert. Either one of these trucks can be fun, but wow, the prices are beyond mindboggling. I remember as a kid back in the '60s I told my dad that the way things are going a Ford pickup will some day cost over a 100-grand. Sadly I was right. Both are WAY OVER PRICED, especially the Raptor (and Raptor R), and are out of reach for most potential buyers. Which also makes me wonder if buyers who really can't afford one, buys one anyway, then beats the heck out of it for a year or two, and then sells it to get out from under the payments.
Coyote, Predator or nothing!
Hey Liam. Good morning
New front end is hideous
Cool 😎
Ecoboost way to go 👍
it honestly is. Makes peak power in the low end and maintains it. The 5.0 is good for the Mustang doesn't belong in a truck.
I've had 3 3.5tt eb's
I've had no real problems with any.....lots of recalls on the 21 tho.
My next truck.....I'm gonna get the 5L just for something different again.
I was gonna order the 21 with it but the cylinder deactivation scared me(previous tro7bles with a Chev 6.2L).
@@davidporter70515.0 doesn’t belong in a truck? LOLOLOLOLOL yea figured a “Canadian” would say something sacrilegious like that. 😂
@@thechosenone2786 you know the mark of very inferior intelligence is using lol in writing when you don't have a understanding of the subject. lol
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
100% Tremor
2024 f150 front end refresh is terrible
Just wish it was smaller.... Too annoying to get in/out of garage fast.
Get a ranger or a maverick
@@Mr504BLACKMAN They don't currently make a Ranger Tremor, instead a RR toy truck with an interior for 5 year olds and an exhaust note that appeals to Import Tuner's from 1997. The Maverick Tremor can't tow a track car.
Or I would.
@@oni-one574 oh my bad I thought size was the problem
Ford comes up with gimmick names like no other company I know of. Raptor. Tremor, Badlands, sasquatch. They don't creat a good vehicle then work to create different versions which then earn badges, as jeep does and did with the wrangler. The wrangler was the wrangler. Then they came out with Sahara, then Rubicon, then 392. Dodge had the challenger, came out with different built versions which they worked on for years. That's the way you earn a badge. Ford, on the other hand, creates five versions instantly and gives them badges that are outrageous and unworthy and unearned. I find this to be cringe on the part of Ford, and I don't understand how people fall for this stuff
Can they seriously upgrade this old antenna?
Great truck otherwise
These carefully crafted and manipulated “manufacturer events” and just useless. They provide zero challenge. Pity they did not also include a base truck with no options. Guaranteed it would have performed exactly the same.
Neither, get a Chevy Zr2
Loooooool
Yeah with the 6.2L v8!
@@scuba6797 yessirr
had one.... it was a lemon
@@SantanKGhey1234 I don’t know what that means.
2024 Front black grilles are ugly and cheap looking