I first got orangatang love handles also 65mm and 77a duro. I felt slow and i felt that i might skid anytime. My lack of confidence with the wheels didnt allow me to pump aggressively. But with Surfskate Love's 65mm 78a duro wheels, things became more fun. It was easier to pump! The wheels have good grip and i feel so much in control. Going distances require less effort. Good job Steve and the team! Thanks for making these awesome wheels!
Super excited !! Ordered the 65/78 for my C7 and the 70/78 for my CX and of course.... both sets on the Soulboardiy. Thank you guys, can't wait to share my experience with the world!!
Cheers to the excellent deconstruction of your masterpiece! And cheers to wheel nerdiness helping make the world a better place :) Congrats on making this a reality!! Super looking forward to getting out on these. Christmas is coming early!!
Usually a huge O’tang fan so the bar is high. Very very impressed. The 70mm 78a set was the closest to my usual soft 4pres on my street cruise set up and these are easily as good if not better. Lively with good energy and rebound from pumps, plush and slightly faster on my rough street roads. I’m super impressed so far and wish you guys all the success you deserve. Definitely onto a winner with the “flothane” formula.
Love it! That square chamfered lip and small core is a great combo. Sounds like a great grippy design with some room for sliding. Glad to see it return in some modern urethane, now that zigzags are donezo!
I recently got involved with surfskating and I wish I would have ordered a Carver many years ago. Have skateboards and never could Ollie and all that, and was never very satisfying. Completely at home riding a surfskate because I just feel comfortable carving and pumping with all four wheels remaining on the ground. Recently received a Carver Black Tip CX, and Carver had a Black Friday sale on the Triton CX’s, so I ordered the 31 inch with 17 inch wheelbase, oh and it was 50 percent off, so only $85.00 for the Triton. Just ordered Surfskate Love wheels 70mm 78a, and the Jehu bearings. So much fun! Enjoying my new hobby. Thanks for the videos!
I believe you hit gold with a simplified, research-heavy choice of not only mm x a, but also with the two cool-blue colors. This guy Gavin is fountain of wheel knowledge!
Looking forward to mine showing up from the pre-sale! On a tangent, I'd love to see a video on finding spots for doing long distance skating besides just "hit the street."
Did you take down your other wheel videos? The only other wheel video I see besides your brand is the Shark wheel video. I seem to remember you having at least a couple of other wheel videos??
I share first impressions on 70mm 84a on Soulboardiy Meda Revolution 34 (with new Zealous built-in bearings) and 81a on Kahuna Pohaku Wahine 48 (with breaked-in Zealous buit-in bearings, optimal speed), both with Carver CX trucks. Skatepark test with very smooth surface on wave zone and classic asphalt on flat zone. Note that i come from Abec Zigzag Reflex 80a in front and 77a in rear, wheels that i like a lot. Target : skatepark progression, 50% skatepark sessions vs 50% pumptrack (classic asphalt). I had a big hesitation to buy 84a, thinking it could be too slidy, at the end i took 81a and 84a 70mm, to keep the choice to use 81a in rear if 84a were too slidy. I'm not good at slide at all, i research grip and more speed. Zealous built-in bearings insertion asked me a bit more pression in the 84a set than in the 81a, which is a thing i prefer. I don't know if it's an isolate reality or if 84a core has been built a bit more tiny vs older 81a set ? The very good surprise is that 84a on Soulboardiy are not too slidy at all ! The grip is still very present, enough with my pumping technique, so it gave me quickly confidence. The second good point is that 84a are not too noisy on classic asphalt, so they keep much more versatilty that what i was expected. As bearings are new, they don't roll at the best, but even with it, i note a increase of speed and took new lines on the skatepark. So 84a offers exacly what i was looking for : a huge potential for skatepark progression/speed and confidence. When the bearings will be breaked in with those 84a, i know i'll be able to take new lines easily. Do the 84a roll noticibly faster than 81a ? I can't answer to this now, because 81a were mounted with optimal breaked in bearings and rolled faster than with my Zigzag with efficient pumping. I look forward to break more the new bearings on the 84a on Soulboardiy, it'll be a master set up for park and pumptrack, for sure. Very good job Steve and Gavin, 84a are super welcome, for me there are not slidy wheels, stay versatile and that's why i'm gonna love them. Just a first session which appeals much more.
@@gpc5010 Hi. Have you an advice to place the foot bloquer? Witch model? I feel like i Never know how to place my feet on the Soulboardiy Adam. I dont place my back foot on the tail, seems way to far. Yow Meraki at 19, and CX at 19. I understand easily why the Soulboardiy (Yow Deck, wheelbase to short or not enought concave or place for foot) is so good with yow but not vs carver Deck (your custom 30" seems to be the answer) Can you tell us more about your choice for Slide truck rear to and bushing choices.
Great video👍I ride a Carver with Cx trucks/slime ball 60mm 78a and trying to squeeze out as much speed as possible but seem to get bogg down, I'm gonna use Venice bch snake run as an example since you're familiar with it and that's where my sticking point is. I understand getting the pumping right is a big factor but will a larger harder wheel get me down the snake run with more velocity? Thx 🛹
No, you want to stick with smaller (60-64mm) for park and bowl riding. You'll actually go faster with smaller and harder wheels. Smaller wheels give you quicker acceleration but lower top speed, bigger wheels give you slower acceleration but higher top speed. But since your speed is limited by distance, you want the quicker acceleration of smaller wheels. My suggestion for surfskate park and bowl wheels are Powell Peralta Rat Bones in either 85a or 90a.
I've spent over $500 on bearings and my take is that it's not really necessary to upgrade, especially on a surfskate. The only reason to upgrade from stock bearings is if you want more speed. In which case, my personal preference is ceramic built-ins, because they eliminate spacers and speed rings.
They're not ideal for it, but the best in our lineup for bowl riding is the 65mm 81a (smallest and hardest). On a smooth concrete pump track, that's also the one I would use. For a rougher asphalt track, I would use the 70mm in 81a.
@@SurfskateLove Thanks ! I hope some day you'll come up with your own bowl riding wheels designed for guys like us who just like to carve bowls with surfskates !
Hi, does the weight of the rider make any difference to the wheels or not? 1.80x100kg, I was thinking of taking your 70x78a for my yow, the standard ura 66x78 wheels are not bad but I would like to have more ease in pumping with flats dirty with sand and more peace of mind when I catch that cursed hidden stone ...
Hi guys, paolo from Italy, who distributes your wheels over Europe? I'm eager to test then! Unfortunately, getting things from USA is going to be too expensive, due to custom taxes... Thanks 🙌
Hi guys, are you planning to distribute your fantastic wheels to European skate shops and e shops? Unfortunately, because of shipping costs and customs charges, in Europe your wheels cost around 120€!
Huge fan of the channel! Your videos have helped me a ton in narrowing down the choices for my first surfskate!! Will your 70mm wheels fit well on a waterborne adapter with out wheel bite?? Or am I safer just going with the 65mm?
Great stuff. This will be my next wheel when the ones I am on wear out a bit! I don't like the color of my current wheels, they are orange. I hate orange! Love the blue of your wheels.
Will the 78A 65mm are going to be better at generating speed at rough terrain (damn big rocks in the asphalt, damn) or 70mm ones? I really can't decide. All I want is pumping all day (and night) long!
@@gpc5010 Incorrect, how so? The majority of grip on skateboards comes from the inside lip of the 2 inside wheels (e.g. when turning left, the front left wheel's and the rear left wheel's inside lips and vice versa). How would offset wheels or sideset wheels have more grip than centerset wheels? Since centerset wheels of the same width have the most inside lip width.
Correct- inner lip plays a large role. Grip is coming from engagement of the lip. Holding contact patch constant, a center set wheel will engage that lip less than an offset or side set wheel which means less grip. An offset or side set wheel puts more weight directly on that lip which is why coning happens. The increased grip on the inner portion also equals increased wear which equals coning. Feel free to message me on social media for more discussion. Cheers 😎
@@gpc5010 I think you're mistaking wear and grip. Wear has to do mainly with hub placement. The area on the wheel where the hub is receives the most wear because your weight goes down on that part of the wheel. That's why you get a lot coning, especially on sidesets, because it mainly only wears down on the inside. Offset wheels get coning unequally, the lip further away from the hub wears less, so it remains bigger. Centerset wheels usually cone almost equally, so you end up with a wheel that cores on the middle with some wheel meat left on the inner and outer sides of the wheel. Now that wear is addressed, let's go back to grip... Grip comes from the shape and width of the inside lip. A sharp thin lip grips more than a fat or round lip. Sidesets usually have fat inner lips. Offsets and centersets can be shaped to have the grippy type of thin lips, or they can be shaped to be slidey, with thick and round inner and/or outer lips. To compare grip and hub placement, we need to keep the width of the wheels equal. However, shape cannot be kept the same because sidesets usually have a cut off end for its inner lip. A cut off end means that it has zero inner lip width and the lip shape is usually a thick, straight, vertical cut with no sharpness at all. Hence sidesets have the least grip. Now a centerset wheel with sharp inner lips will grip more than an offset wheel with sharp inner lips just because there is just more inner lip width there, since most of the width of offset wheels are located on the outside lips. There is one exception; however, and, they are called inset wheels, which are basically flipped offset wheels, where the inner lips are wider than the outer lips. It also means that the hub of inset wheels is located closer to the outer lips rather than the inside lips. If we are comparing inset vs. centerset wheels with the same lip profile and overall wheel width, then the inset will have more grip than the centerset. Conversely, although no manufacturer produces them, if you flip sideset wheels that have a sharp outer lip, so that the sharp lip is now facing to the inside, then you can, in theory, achieve more grip than centerset or inset wheels - provided that the wheels are all the same width. In summary, for wheels with the same width and sharp lips, the most grip likely comes from 1) flipped sidesets, 2) insets, 3) centersets, 4) offsets, and, lastly, 5) unflipped sidesets - in that order.
No, I’m not confusing grip and wear. You are not realizing how closely related they are. Centerset wheels are not grippier than an offset wheel because the weight is distributed more over the contact patch instead of focused on the lip, which you agree is driving a large portion of the grip. It can’t grip without weight input to it. Weight input is constant as well as core diameter and width. The only thing that changes is allocation of the weight input from rider. Why don’t we see centerset race wheels? According to you, center set wears more evenly and grips more- so why no center set race wheels? Wear and grip are inherently related. More grip equals more wear. You have a lot of attributes captured and there are a lot of variables but holding all other design characteristics constant, center set is not grippier than offset. I really dislike this type of technical convo on UA-cam- feel free to shoot me a message. I appreciate your input. Cheers.
I first got orangatang love handles also 65mm and 77a duro. I felt slow and i felt that i might skid anytime. My lack of confidence with the wheels didnt allow me to pump aggressively.
But with Surfskate Love's 65mm 78a duro wheels, things became more fun. It was easier to pump! The wheels have good grip and i feel so much in control. Going distances require less effort. Good job Steve and the team! Thanks for making these awesome wheels!
Just orders by first set of SurfSkate Love wheels yesterday. Super stoked to see the grip everyone is writing about!
Super excited !! Ordered the 65/78 for my C7 and the 70/78 for my CX and of course.... both sets on the Soulboardiy. Thank you guys, can't wait to share my experience with the world!!
Cheers to the excellent deconstruction of your masterpiece! And cheers to wheel nerdiness helping make the world a better place :) Congrats on making this a reality!! Super looking forward to getting out on these. Christmas is coming early!!
Awesome product intro! I know Gavin and if anyone knows this stuff, it's him. Super excited for these dudes!
I just got into surfskating and came across this channel. Very inspiring content! I think I will give your wheels a try. Greetings from Poland.
Usually a huge O’tang fan so the bar is high.
Very very impressed.
The 70mm 78a set was the closest to my usual soft 4pres on my street cruise set up and these are easily as good if not better.
Lively with good energy and rebound from pumps, plush and slightly faster on my rough street roads.
I’m super impressed so far and wish you guys all the success you deserve. Definitely onto a winner with the “flothane” formula.
Love it! That square chamfered lip and small core is a great combo. Sounds like a great grippy design with some room for sliding. Glad to see it return in some modern urethane, now that zigzags are donezo!
I recently got involved with surfskating and I wish I would have ordered a Carver many years ago. Have skateboards and never could Ollie and all that, and was never very satisfying. Completely at home riding a surfskate because I just feel comfortable carving and pumping with all four wheels remaining on the ground. Recently received a Carver Black Tip CX, and Carver had a Black Friday sale on the Triton CX’s, so I ordered the 31 inch with 17 inch wheelbase, oh and it was 50 percent off, so only $85.00 for the Triton. Just ordered Surfskate Love wheels 70mm 78a, and the Jehu bearings. So much fun! Enjoying my new hobby. Thanks for the videos!
I believe you hit gold with a simplified, research-heavy choice of not only mm x a, but also with the two cool-blue colors. This guy Gavin is fountain of wheel knowledge!
Just got some 81a for my Blacktip. Can't wait to hit the park with them. Thanks for sending a sticker pack with my order as well. Nice surprise. 🤙
Thank you so much! Enjoy!
Just bought some! You guys rock!!
🤙🏼 *Beautiful Pantheon Prana in the back* 👀🤙🏼
Great to see new wheels!! 👌🏼👌🏼
One of my favorites! I am a big Pantheon fan
Looking forward to mine showing up from the pre-sale! On a tangent, I'd love to see a video on finding spots for doing long distance skating besides just "hit the street."
I will have to try these out, looks like a great wheel.
Mine have just arrived! Very keen to try them out!
Did you take down your other wheel videos? The only other wheel video I see besides your brand is the Shark wheel video. I seem to remember you having at least a couple of other wheel videos??
surfskate.love/best-surfskate-wheels/
Excellent! Inspiring riding too..
Love the 70mm 78a wheels on my Carver. Nice color too!
Wow amazing to understand the engineering behind these wheels
These are Awesome. Best ride ever.
Wish you talked about the bearings you used.
Soon!
I share first impressions on 70mm 84a on Soulboardiy Meda Revolution 34 (with new Zealous built-in bearings) and 81a on Kahuna Pohaku Wahine 48 (with breaked-in Zealous buit-in bearings, optimal speed), both with Carver CX trucks. Skatepark test with very smooth surface on wave zone and classic asphalt on flat zone. Note that i come from Abec Zigzag Reflex 80a in front and 77a in rear, wheels that i like a lot. Target : skatepark progression, 50% skatepark sessions vs 50% pumptrack (classic asphalt). I had a big hesitation to buy 84a, thinking it could be too slidy, at the end i took 81a and 84a 70mm, to keep the choice to use 81a in rear if 84a were too slidy. I'm not good at slide at all, i research grip and more speed. Zealous built-in bearings insertion asked me a bit more pression in the 84a set than in the 81a, which is a thing i prefer. I don't know if it's an isolate reality or if 84a core has been built a bit more tiny vs older 81a set ? The very good surprise is that 84a on Soulboardiy are not too slidy at all ! The grip is still very present, enough with my pumping technique, so it gave me quickly confidence. The second good point is that 84a are not too noisy on classic asphalt, so they keep much more versatilty that what i was expected. As bearings are new, they don't roll at the best, but even with it, i note a increase of speed and took new lines on the skatepark. So 84a offers exacly what i was looking for : a huge potential for skatepark progression/speed and confidence. When the bearings will be breaked in with those 84a, i know i'll be able to take new lines easily. Do the 84a roll noticibly faster than 81a ? I can't answer to this now, because 81a were mounted with optimal breaked in bearings and rolled faster than with my Zigzag with efficient pumping. I look forward to break more the new bearings on the 84a on Soulboardiy, it'll be a master set up for park and pumptrack, for sure. Very good job Steve and Gavin, 84a are super welcome, for me there are not slidy wheels, stay versatile and that's why i'm gonna love them. Just a first session which appeals much more.
Congratulations!
What is his board in this video? Looks like a lot of fun.
This was an amazing run down of your wheels. I look forward to trying them soon.
I’m on a soulboardiy with a cx front truck and a slide rear truck 😎
@@gpc5010 Was the choice to use Slide deliberate or necessity? Thanks again for the awesome wheel deep dive dude!
By choice- i love the slide rear! My favorite rear truck geometry for surfskating. Thank you for your positivity and support!
Best Wheels for Surfskating!
Good stuff guys, excellent presentation, ordering mine soon! Gavin what size/shape is your Soulbourdy?
That’s a custom sized Adam… 30” on a 17”wb. Snub nose! It’s feels like an extension of my feet.
@@gpc5010 Hi. Have you an advice to place the foot bloquer? Witch model? I feel like i Never know how to place my feet on the Soulboardiy Adam. I dont place my back foot on the tail, seems way to far. Yow Meraki at 19, and CX at 19. I understand easily why the Soulboardiy (Yow Deck, wheelbase to short or not enought concave or place for foot) is so good with yow but not vs carver Deck (your custom 30" seems to be the answer) Can you tell us more about your choice for Slide truck rear to and bushing choices.
Amazing!
Great video👍I ride a Carver with Cx trucks/slime ball 60mm 78a and trying to squeeze out as much speed as possible but seem to get bogg down, I'm gonna use Venice bch snake run as an example since you're familiar with it and that's where my sticking point is. I understand getting the pumping right is a big factor but will a larger harder wheel get me down the snake run with more velocity? Thx 🛹
No, you want to stick with smaller (60-64mm) for park and bowl riding. You'll actually go faster with smaller and harder wheels. Smaller wheels give you quicker acceleration but lower top speed, bigger wheels give you slower acceleration but higher top speed. But since your speed is limited by distance, you want the quicker acceleration of smaller wheels. My suggestion for surfskate park and bowl wheels are Powell Peralta Rat Bones in either 85a or 90a.
@@SurfskateLove Thanks 🤙 I'll give the rat bones a try for sure.
Do they also perform so good one snakeboards/streetboards?
Would love to see a 60 mm
Are you planning to sell in Europe as well?
Yes, these are currently available worldwide, including Europe. International shipping is expensive, unfortunately. Working on solutions.
Love it ,,any recommendations on bearings?
I've spent over $500 on bearings and my take is that it's not really necessary to upgrade, especially on a surfskate. The only reason to upgrade from stock bearings is if you want more speed. In which case, my personal preference is ceramic built-ins, because they eliminate spacers and speed rings.
Thanks for the advice Steve 👍
One thing for sure I can flat throw my weight into the Surfskate Love wheels. I mean hard and with abandon without any worry.
Any chance you’ll make them in Black or White
Possibly down the road. I might do special edition colors.
What's your favorite for bowl riding ? And for pumptrack ?
They're not ideal for it, but the best in our lineup for bowl riding is the 65mm 81a (smallest and hardest). On a smooth concrete pump track, that's also the one I would use. For a rougher asphalt track, I would use the 70mm in 81a.
@@SurfskateLove Thanks ! I hope some day you'll come up with your own bowl riding wheels designed for guys like us who just like to carve bowls with surfskates !
@@PierreBoth Yes, that’s next on the list!
What board and trucks was he riding? Great video!
Soulboardiy with Carver CX front and Slide rear.
Hi, does the weight of the rider make any difference to the wheels or not? 1.80x100kg, I was thinking of taking your 70x78a for my yow, the standard ura 66x78 wheels are not bad but I would like to have more ease in pumping with flats dirty with sand and more peace of mind when I catch that cursed hidden stone ...
It may make a negligible difference, but probably not that you would be able to tell.
How about the Love handles?
They're great! surfskate.love/best-surfskate-wheels/
Will the 70mm work on Carver Black Tip which has 69 mm Smoke wheels?
Yep, perfectly!
@@SurfskateLove thanks for replying. One more question, if I order those wheels, what bearings do you recommend? Thanks guys !
Can these be used on longboards? Now you need to manufacturer ideal shaped decks so we're all not waiting for soulboardiys which are in short supply
Yes, for sure. Fantastic for longboards.
Looks similar to Cuie killers. Do you have plans on manufacturing 74/75mm 80/83a ?
We are definitely coming out with a 75mm wheel.
That was my question too as presently I'm using a 75 mm wheel on my top mount pumper.
I’m on 75 for my top mount too 😉
Do the wheels come with spacers? If not, can you recommend a set that fits well?
They don't. You usually just get spacers with your bearings. But I recommend built-in bearings to eliminate spacers.
Hi guys, paolo from Italy, who distributes your wheels over Europe? I'm eager to test then! Unfortunately, getting things from USA is going to be too expensive, due to custom taxes...
Thanks 🙌
I'm still working on global distribution.
Sono disponibili
Hi guys, are you planning to distribute your fantastic wheels to European skate shops and e shops? Unfortunately, because of shipping costs and customs charges, in Europe your wheels cost around 120€!
Yeah we're working on global fulfillment solutions.
Huge fan of the channel! Your videos have helped me a ton in narrowing down the choices for my first surfskate!! Will your 70mm wheels fit well on a waterborne adapter with out wheel bite?? Or am I safer just going with the 65mm?
Depends on how much riser you add. You can use 70mm wheels on anything with risers.
Once I saw the stash of Abec11 Lime BigZigs, I trusted this man's opinions instantly.
Great stuff. This will be my next wheel when the ones I am on wear out a bit! I don't like the color of my current wheels, they are orange. I hate orange! Love the blue of your wheels.
Hola Steve, podrías poner los subtitulos en español en tus videos? Antes los videos tenían subtitulos y se agradece mucho. Gracias y un saludo.
Lo siento, Alberto. Siempre lo hago, pero por alguna razón se me olvidó este. Gracias por recordarme. Lo tengo hecho.
@@SurfskateLoveGracias Steve, es que no se hablar inglés y me gusta mucho tu canal, un fuerte abrazo.
Congrats on your product! I bought the 65mm pack. Do I need bearing spacers with these? Thanks!
woww
Will the 78A 65mm are going to be better at generating speed at rough terrain (damn big rocks in the asphalt, damn) or 70mm ones?
I really can't decide.
All I want is pumping all day (and night) long!
Definitely go with 70mm 78a for that. Have fun!
@@SurfskateLove Thank you Steve!
Guys hope you will notice me. I just want to ask, how can I order this stuff? I want to brought a surfskate.
surfskate.love/shop/
Centerset has more grip than offset, and sideset has the least grip.
Incorrect.
@@gpc5010 Incorrect, how so? The majority of grip on skateboards comes from the inside lip of the 2 inside wheels (e.g. when turning left, the front left wheel's and the rear left wheel's inside lips and vice versa). How would offset wheels or sideset wheels have more grip than centerset wheels? Since centerset wheels of the same width have the most inside lip width.
Correct- inner lip plays a large role. Grip is coming from engagement of the lip. Holding contact patch constant, a center set wheel will engage that lip less than an offset or side set wheel which means less grip. An offset or side set wheel puts more weight directly on that lip which is why coning happens. The increased grip on the inner portion also equals increased wear which equals coning. Feel free to message me on social media for more discussion. Cheers 😎
@@gpc5010 I think you're mistaking wear and grip. Wear has to do mainly with hub placement. The area on the wheel where the hub is receives the most wear because your weight goes down on that part of the wheel. That's why you get a lot coning, especially on sidesets, because it mainly only wears down on the inside. Offset wheels get coning unequally, the lip further away from the hub wears less, so it remains bigger. Centerset wheels usually cone almost equally, so you end up with a wheel that cores on the middle with some wheel meat left on the inner and outer sides of the wheel.
Now that wear is addressed, let's go back to grip...
Grip comes from the shape and width of the inside lip. A sharp thin lip grips more than a fat or round lip. Sidesets usually have fat inner lips. Offsets and centersets can be shaped to have the grippy type of thin lips, or they can be shaped to be slidey, with thick and round inner and/or outer lips.
To compare grip and hub placement, we need to keep the width of the wheels equal. However, shape cannot be kept the same because sidesets usually have a cut off end for its inner lip. A cut off end means that it has zero inner lip width and the lip shape is usually a thick, straight, vertical cut with no sharpness at all. Hence sidesets have the least grip. Now a centerset wheel with sharp inner lips will grip more than an offset wheel with sharp inner lips just because there is just more inner lip width there, since most of the width of offset wheels are located on the outside lips. There is one exception; however, and, they are called inset wheels, which are basically flipped offset wheels, where the inner lips are wider than the outer lips. It also means that the hub of inset wheels is located closer to the outer lips rather than the inside lips. If we are comparing inset vs. centerset wheels with the same lip profile and overall wheel width, then the inset will have more grip than the centerset. Conversely, although no manufacturer produces them, if you flip sideset wheels that have a sharp outer lip, so that the sharp lip is now facing to the inside, then you can, in theory, achieve more grip than centerset or inset wheels - provided that the wheels are all the same width.
In summary, for wheels with the same width and sharp lips, the most grip likely comes from 1) flipped sidesets, 2) insets, 3) centersets, 4) offsets, and, lastly, 5) unflipped sidesets - in that order.
No, I’m not confusing grip and wear. You are not realizing how closely related they are.
Centerset wheels are not grippier than an offset wheel because the weight is distributed more over the contact patch instead of focused on the lip, which you agree is driving a large portion of the grip. It can’t grip without weight input to it. Weight input is constant as well as core diameter and width. The only thing that changes is allocation of the weight input from rider.
Why don’t we see centerset race wheels? According to you, center set wears more evenly and grips more- so why no center set race wheels?
Wear and grip are inherently related. More grip equals more wear.
You have a lot of attributes captured and there are a lot of variables but holding all other design characteristics constant, center set is not grippier than offset. I really dislike this type of technical convo on UA-cam- feel free to shoot me a message. I appreciate your input. Cheers.
the only magic that happens with offset is lower durability
You actually get more grip out of offset wheels than centerset wheels.