Thank you once again and the marathon analogy was an excellent way to clarify the situation! I believe that it's not right to force people to change anyway, even though it's understandable, especially when married with children. I was wanting family members and others to stop drinking etc, then do healing work on their childhood trauma issues, like I've done. I've slowly learnt the hard way that it might never happen and they have more productive lives than me, which is partly caused by burnt out from way too much stress in my life. 💙
Right! And to hope they'll change is like sitting at a casino gaming machine putting "coins ( your time and energy slipping away)" when the odds are stacked against you.
Even if they somehow changed. Once they come back and see you again, you know the old habits will kick back in they will try and get back to the way things were.
I'm gonna have to propose that potentiality ask hey are you really willing to willing to lose everything just to not face the responsibility of your behavior see what she says
How often do they change? How statistically likely is it? What can we do to help them figure themselves out in a loving way? Does medication help? Am I holding on to false hope?
Yes. They have to be the one to decide they want to change. You can’t do it for them, regardless of how good your intentions are. I know it’s really hard to hear, but consider how often a “normal” person decides to implement and commit to a difficult change. Narcissists are a thousand times more resistant to change than a “normal” person. (Obviously not an actual statistic). It’s not impossible, but it’s also just not going to happen.
I believe the statistics would probably show that any change of a narcissist's behavior would more likely be in the upper 90 percentile of change for the worst. Personally, I have never seen a narcissist change for the better. Sorry for the bad news; really, I am, but it is based on years of observation.
No one can change them. But they can change if they want to. They can’t stop being narcissists, but they are capable of change. To say otherwise would mean that they aren’t responsible for the way they treat people, and they absolutely are.
@@LookingBehindtheMirror From what I've researched it's very difficult and unlikely for them to change, especially when they are up against it. You are right that no-one can change them, but it's highly unlikely that a narcissist could change their patterns of behaviour.
Thank you once again and the marathon analogy was an excellent way to clarify the situation!
I believe that it's not right to force people to change anyway, even though it's understandable, especially when married with children.
I was wanting family members and others to stop drinking etc, then do healing work on their childhood trauma issues, like I've done.
I've slowly learnt the hard way that it might never happen and they have more productive lives than me, which is partly caused by burnt out from way too much stress in my life. 💙
Right! And to hope they'll change is like sitting at a casino gaming machine putting "coins ( your time and energy slipping away)" when the odds are stacked against you.
Even if they somehow changed. Once they come back and see you again, you know the old habits will kick back in they will try and get back to the way things were.
thats unfortunate when they don't wanna change for the better
Narcissists can change. Unfortunately, I believe from experience after living with one and observing their family; they only change for the worse.
99.9% of the time. Yes.
I'm gonna have to propose that potentiality ask hey are you really willing to willing to lose everything just to not face the responsibility of your behavior see what she says
How often do they change? How statistically likely is it? What can we do to help them figure themselves out in a loving way? Does medication help? Am I holding on to false hope?
Yes. They have to be the one to decide they want to change. You can’t do it for them, regardless of how good your intentions are. I know it’s really hard to hear, but consider how often a “normal” person decides to implement and commit to a difficult change. Narcissists are a thousand times more resistant to change than a “normal” person. (Obviously not an actual statistic). It’s not impossible, but it’s also just not going to happen.
I believe the statistics would probably show that any change of a narcissist's behavior would more likely be in the upper 90 percentile of change for the worst. Personally, I have never seen a narcissist change for the better.
Sorry for the bad news; really, I am, but it is based on years of observation.
Nope..their psychiatrist can’t change them
No one can change them. But they can change if they want to. They can’t stop being narcissists, but they are capable of change. To say otherwise would mean that they aren’t responsible for the way they treat people, and they absolutely are.
@@LookingBehindtheMirror From what I've researched it's very difficult and unlikely for them to change, especially when they are up against it. You are right that no-one can change them, but it's highly unlikely that a narcissist could change their patterns of behaviour.