Well done. I’ve also shot quite a few rolls of Phoenix in 35mm, and I completely agree with your comments. I just got five rolls of Phoenix 120 and I’m going to shoot one or two of them in my Hasselblad this week, so we’ll see what happens there. As for scanning differences: you make an interesting point about some of the orange character being persistent regardless of scanning technique. I absolutely agree-I’ve tried Noritsu and my Epson V700.
First of all, this was so far the best practical demo of the charactristics of this film that I have seen. I don't shoot much colour film and I have not tried this film so far. It certainly has some inetresting look in 120. I think in 35mm it is more an ' effect ' film. It doesn't mean its bad, just very different. The excessive grain, high contrat and the overal look, but saturation not withstanding reminds me of a Bleach Bypass process. The lack of antihalation layer is curious. If nothing else this film is an engima. What I would have done if I were interested in this film, I would have set up a controlled environment in a home/studio and lit the scene with a variable colour temp LED lighting. I am curious as to how the spectral response of the film varies with different colour temperatures. I am not aware if Harman have published any meaningful data as yet. For what its worth, I loved the photos, the film certainly gives the mundane a lift. As someone once said, " its arts business to raise the common to a state of grace ". Live long and prosper.
For sure! I think that is almost the charm though because it’s so experimental that you can shoot it in so many different ways. Once you master the way YOU want to shoot it, you could really lean into that and make something special.
i didnt get a roll because it felt too expensive just to play around with it for 135 but i'm pretty sure i'll cave and get at least one for 120, this looks pretty cool honestly.
It’s worth it just to try! I’d recommend probably rating it at 100 if you do shoot a roll, and to experiment with different scanning methods to try and find your preferred aesthetic.
Love halation. The reason I schoot film . It's for the quirky unexpected unpredictable results.. I am not sure why you would schoot a film and then edit out it's characteristics. I noticed film photographers are afraid to use flash in cloudy, dark or indoors. They would rather fix it in post. Take it to a lab. The lab scans look good.
I think it’s just about tailoring a film and using it to create the images you want to create. I agree about honing in on the characteristics but I think that’s one of the interesting things about this film, that those characteristics shift and change depending on how you shoot it. I think the main characteristics that remain regardless of how it’s shot is that it’s contrasty and warm, and those are the characteristics I’d have in mind when shooting with it. I agree that flash would alter the results, but I think that the thing with flash is that direct fill flash won’t always get you the desired look, but lugging strobes around (especially for street or documentary photography) isn’t always plausible. Also, shooting backlit without front fill can sometimes render really lovely results, so I don’t think using flash is the answer here.
@@SophiaCarey Well I guess underexposed photos are what you are after because flash would expose it properly and no underexposure photos where the viewer is trying to see what it is.
Well done. I’ve also shot quite a few rolls of Phoenix in 35mm, and I completely agree with your comments. I just got five rolls of Phoenix 120 and I’m going to shoot one or two of them in my Hasselblad this week, so we’ll see what happens there. As for scanning differences: you make an interesting point about some of the orange character being persistent regardless of scanning technique. I absolutely agree-I’ve tried Noritsu and my Epson V700.
First of all, this was so far the best practical demo of the charactristics of this film that I have seen. I don't shoot much colour film and I have not tried this film so far. It certainly has some inetresting look in 120. I think in 35mm it is more an ' effect ' film. It doesn't mean its bad, just very different. The excessive grain, high contrat and the overal look, but saturation not withstanding reminds me of a Bleach Bypass process. The lack of antihalation layer is curious. If nothing else this film is an engima. What I would have done if I were interested in this film, I would have set up a controlled environment in a home/studio and lit the scene with a variable colour temp LED lighting. I am curious as to how the spectral response of the film varies with different colour temperatures. I am not aware if Harman have published any meaningful data as yet. For what its worth, I loved the photos, the film certainly gives the mundane a lift. As someone once said, " its arts business to raise the common to a state of grace ". Live long and prosper.
Stunning Sophia! I have received 2 rolls in 35mm, but I didn't know it's available in 120
Thank you! Have you tried the 35mm yet? Would be keen to hear your thoughts on it!
@@SophiaCarey I have shot one of them on 100 ISO but haven't developed them yet.
I’m yet to shoot Phoenix in any format, it feels like it needs a fair bit of experimentation to get to grips with
For sure! I think that is almost the charm though because it’s so experimental that you can shoot it in so many different ways. Once you master the way YOU want to shoot it, you could really lean into that and make something special.
i didnt get a roll because it felt too expensive just to play around with it for 135 but i'm pretty sure i'll cave and get at least one for 120, this looks pretty cool honestly.
It’s worth it just to try! I’d recommend probably rating it at 100 if you do shoot a roll, and to experiment with different scanning methods to try and find your preferred aesthetic.
Love halation. The reason I schoot film . It's for the quirky unexpected unpredictable results.. I am not sure why you would schoot a film and then edit out it's characteristics. I noticed film photographers are afraid to use flash in cloudy, dark or indoors. They would rather fix it in post. Take it to a lab. The lab scans look good.
I think it’s just about tailoring a film and using it to create the images you want to create. I agree about honing in on the characteristics but I think that’s one of the interesting things about this film, that those characteristics shift and change depending on how you shoot it. I think the main characteristics that remain regardless of how it’s shot is that it’s contrasty and warm, and those are the characteristics I’d have in mind when shooting with it.
I agree that flash would alter the results, but I think that the thing with flash is that direct fill flash won’t always get you the desired look, but lugging strobes around (especially for street or documentary photography) isn’t always plausible. Also, shooting backlit without front fill can sometimes render really lovely results, so I don’t think using flash is the answer here.
@@SophiaCarey Well I guess underexposed photos are what you are after because flash would expose it properly and no underexposure photos where the viewer is trying to see what it is.