Been daily driving Phoenix in 35 for the last 6 months and I've learned so much shooting it. It's like slide film at its core. I love the way it looks with flash, all my friends at the lab have been laughing at me for using it so much but it feels like this is a potentially once in a lifetime opportunity to use a limited brand new film stock, so I'm accepting all my results as a Harman the company is accepting it as well. It really is a HARD film stock to use and I love that, from the blown highs to crushed blacks or the wack scanning, It just feels right to use it after the insurmountable amount of time and money that has went into the development. I may be tripping a little but I believe the emulsion material theyre using is very very good, ive shot many many rolls of it and it's a really easily film to handle and ive never seen it scratched really? Love that it's always flat and always has a great surface. I love how it looks in overcast and sometimes i like shooting it at like 20iso. Just bought 5 rolls on B and H to hold me over till labs get it in.
@@MerlinBarkowsky I do not, I'm planning on saving all of it for a post in the future, however if you look up a channel named the120ist in his video of phoenix 120 he does two different shoots with flash one outdoors and one in a studio as well as a holga. My results are very close to those, the only difference is I usually meter for 50 or 20 iso
@@MerlinBarkowsky I've shot two rolls with flash and it really does have "found these negatives from the 80s in the attic" vibes, it's great. Though one time I calculated the flash for an f/11 shot and then beamed the film at f/1.8 by accident... Oops.
@@coreyriddell1759 yellow very yellow. turns baby poop green yellow with overexposure in 35mm, on 120 it is more purple to my eye. it can be easily color corrected each way. If the light is uniform and even 20 isn't much overexposure, if it's harsh direct uneven light you're blowing your subject goodbye but still can get a useable image with work
Been seeing this film drop by a few creators here on UA-cam. I am glad I waited as I would always rather get Caleb's take on it over some of the others. Your photos of such randomness give us a real understanding of how any film or camera works better then any professional reviewer. Thanks bro.
@@BadFlashes I have a tiny home in Calgary Alberta but if you ever want to sleep on our blowup mattress in our livingroom you and Jason are welcome. LOL, We have coffee.
Oh my gosh!! the photo at 11:21 is very Maxfield Parrish!!! I LOVE Maxfield and the wild, surreal colors he used in his works! I love when I get results like a painting!! Love it! :)
I’m so envious of you guys because you have those brown tan and blue scenes to shoot. Here in Norway nature is just so green (and blue in the sky if it’s not overcast).
The first area you're shooting in looks so much like my area that I'm definitely grabbing a roll of 35mm Phoenix when I pick up my negatives. I've been on the fence but you got some really nice pics with it. Thank you for inspiring me!
Bought a mint 645 yesterday. Popped in the battery and ….well it had catastrophic failure. Now I am back to watching your great tube presentations. Thank you for the up beat video.
"Bought a mint 645" - Uh-oh - Those rather complex medium format ELECTRONIC cameras are failing Left-&-Right. - Electronics AGE (Capacitors go bad and Elect.micro Whiskers form on surface mount components; shorting them out). Better to invest in an ALL MANUAL Hasselblad and a 645 interchangeable back.If a Pano is required, get a Hasselblad SWC with a Pano mask kit for the body & optical finder (MUCH better ZEISS glass & forget about the problematic XPan & TX-1 choices). Plus, with the Hasselblad YOU"LL NEVER LOSE MONEY if you ever want to sell it. - BTW, I'm a camera technician...😎
Thanks for this video! I was hoping they would make this in medium format but after your video I definitely will try to get my hands on some Phoenix. Really appreciate your thoughts on this! Thank ya kindly!
Phoenix looks great. And the 645 Bangers are awesome pushed 1 stop. Best wishes and healing for the missus! I am both a wheelchair user and photographer. (and love rangefinders).
These looked great! If you want some great barn pics, I'd recommend going to Cade's Cove in the Gatlinburg/ Pigeon Forge area of Tennessee. During the off season, you can get some pretty great photos without too many people around.
@@BadFlashes Go into Townsend if you do the Cades Cove/Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area. Lots of nice photography there. I've shot bangers of my own there. I live an hour and a half from that area. Also don't miss Look Rock, Clingman's Dome, and the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
Video @ 3:22 "Jason METERS again..." - I don't understand why Jason is ALWAYS using his meter/phone when the lighting in Bright Sunshine Distinct Shadows NEVER CHANGES ! - Hello, Open Shade is another one that Jason should memorize. Heck, just acquire an old film BOX and it will even show him little cartoon examples...
So funny, I took images of that same falling-down barn on Sunday! I even got images of the cattle shoot. I shoot digital, but I still enjoy the channel.
Awesome video! And I’ll happily shoot this film stick I just it too grain city in 35mm but 120 looks great!!! And the price is right! Totally side question Caleb, where is your hat from? Keep up the great vids!
Every time you bring out your 645 I get reminded that I should buy a strap for mine and then forget by the next time I use it. Maybe I'll get one by the next video!
I have yet to try phoenix in both formats but glad they made 120 film of it. I like the music in the beginning. Was that Kitaro? Love Kitaro. Sorry to see your lady in a wheelchair. I hope she makes a speedy recovery. You should give her a camera so she can take photos at waist level.
Nice shots! That shot at 11:37-38 (the fence line) is my favorite. Yes I did order 2 rolls (Film photography project 10.99 a roll), I am going to feed one roll to my Holga, for Holga Week. 😉
I recommend getting a 3 stop soft-edge GND. It will make a huge difference on all your landscapes that have a horizon. It is vital if you use slide film.
I don’t know if it’s a 3 stop but I do have a Lee system grad, but it’s a bit big for my medium format Mamma Mia … I usually use it for my large format work
Enjoyed it. I hope SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) is back on her feet soon. Freestyle, I ordered from them before you were born - it is good to see they are still there.
Ahhhh I can’t help myself but don’t like how it looks. I really want to like it because it’s newly produced but I don’t like it yet. Maybe I would try using it on a totally low contrast foggy day. Dunno. Thx for the review anyways! 😊
Where do i find Captain Crunchy Crunch and the Phoenix Berries? And how badly will it chew up the roof of my mouth? Great video Caleb. As always, appreciate your perspective and passion.
I only have 80mm lenses for my two M645 1000S'. Both with the 80 1.9. Just to be able to switch between colour and BW without having to switch lenses/finish the roll....😅 You do need to try one of those! Basically the same in terms of DOF as the Takumar 105 2.4 and Canon 50 1.2! They are great fun! That being said I still need to try either the 45 or the 55. Haven't had the chance.
I'm confused. If box speed is 200 then shooting it at 100 is the "pulled by 1 stop shot". So If you shoot it at 100 you're already pulling it one stop and then if your second shot is pushed by one stop and the reference is always to box speed, then you shot it at 400? And then how did you actually compensate for the pushing/pulling if all the shots are on the same roll? Pushing and pulling isn't just changing the iso on your light meter. There is a corresponding compensation in development time or type of developer that has to be done in the darkroom. How did you shorten and lengthen the development time when developing the same roll? What am I missing?
You kn ow, vutting the film strip wider and not punching holes in it doesn't make it sharper, less contrasty, reduce the golf ball sized grain, or correct the color imbalances. In short, the 120 looks the same as the 35mm, like shit.
i have a few different test going on. I shot at 100 did nothing in development ...then I shot at 400 and pushed 1 stop .... then i shot at 800 and pushed 2 stops i hope that helps
@@BadFlashes Ah! I understand. I think the labelling threw me - it said "iso 100 / +1 stop", so it twisted my brain a little. Anyway, love your work. Thanks for posting
Oh, Maybe I’m not explaining enough in this particular episode. I’ve done other episodes about pulling and pushing film. In this episode, I’m not pulling, but I am pushing in development. There are a few things I’m doing 1 • overexposing and dev normal 2 • underexposing (rating the film at 400) and pushing it +1 in development 3 • underexposing 2 stops (rating the film at 800) and pushing it +2 in development Hope that helps
@BadFlashes I think I was just getting confused by wording, this makes plenty of sense and is correct terminology, but I usually use pushing and pulling to describe the whole process of shooting and developing the film at another iso
I’m glad that helps!!! I think that what I was doing I might just never talked about the development part. Maybe I should make another push / pull episode 😝 Hope you like the pics
I wish your wife a speedy and healthy recovery.
no i really appreciate it. It's been a tough journey and all the love and support is warmly accepted. thanks 😊
Been daily driving Phoenix in 35 for the last 6 months and I've learned so much shooting it. It's like slide film at its core. I love the way it looks with flash, all my friends at the lab have been laughing at me for using it so much but it feels like this is a potentially once in a lifetime opportunity to use a limited brand new film stock, so I'm accepting all my results as a Harman the company is accepting it as well. It really is a HARD film stock to use and I love that, from the blown highs to crushed blacks or the wack scanning, It just feels right to use it after the insurmountable amount of time and money that has went into the development. I may be tripping a little but I believe the emulsion material theyre using is very very good, ive shot many many rolls of it and it's a really easily film to handle and ive never seen it scratched really? Love that it's always flat and always has a great surface. I love how it looks in overcast and sometimes i like shooting it at like 20iso. Just bought 5 rolls on B and H to hold me over till labs get it in.
Love the stock as well! Do you have some example shots how it looks like with flash?
@@MerlinBarkowsky I do not, I'm planning on saving all of it for a post in the future, however if you look up a channel named the120ist in his video of phoenix 120 he does two different shoots with flash one outdoors and one in a studio as well as a holga. My results are very close to those, the only difference is I usually meter for 50 or 20 iso
@@MerlinBarkowsky I've shot two rolls with flash and it really does have "found these negatives from the 80s in the attic" vibes, it's great. Though one time I calculated the flash for an f/11 shot and then beamed the film at f/1.8 by accident... Oops.
Woah, what are your results like at iso 20? Rating it at about 160, it's still pretty far under exposed for my tastes.
@@coreyriddell1759 yellow very yellow. turns baby poop green yellow with overexposure in 35mm, on 120 it is more purple to my eye. it can be easily color corrected each way. If the light is uniform and even 20 isn't much overexposure, if it's harsh direct uneven light you're blowing your subject goodbye but still can get a useable image with work
Been seeing this film drop by a few creators here on UA-cam. I am glad I waited as I would always rather get Caleb's take on it over some of the others. Your photos of such randomness give us a real understanding of how any film or camera works better then any professional reviewer. Thanks bro.
aw thanks so much! I love that i can help out :)
@@BadFlashes keep up the good work. Been a fan since I think like 1k subs or so. You and your buddy with the red toque and lexus.
Ahhhhhh thanks. You are OG!!!
@@BadFlashes I have a tiny home in Calgary Alberta but if you ever want to sleep on our blowup mattress in our livingroom you and Jason are welcome. LOL, We have coffee.
The 120 looks great man, some beautiful shots you captured with it!
Thanks for watching 🥰
healthy recovery to Mrs. Bad Flashes
Awww thanks 😊
Oh my gosh!! the photo at 11:21 is very Maxfield Parrish!!! I LOVE Maxfield and the wild, surreal colors he used in his works! I love when I get results like a painting!! Love it! :)
😻😻😻😻😻🎞️🚪🎉🔥🫡🥰
I’m so envious of you guys because you have those brown tan and blue scenes to shoot. Here in Norway nature is just so green (and blue in the sky if it’s not overcast).
I bet norway is dope ... i have always wanted to go
@@BadFlashes Norway is dope😄✌🏻
Its like Christmas when allll the people upload to a new film
120 TIME!
The first area you're shooting in looks so much like my area that I'm definitely grabbing a roll of 35mm Phoenix when I pick up my negatives. I've been on the fence but you got some really nice pics with it. Thank you for inspiring me!
you cant go wrong especially if you scan yourself
Bought a mint 645 yesterday. Popped in the battery and ….well it had catastrophic failure. Now I am back to watching your great tube presentations. Thank you for the up beat video.
I’m so sorry. Hope it gets resolved
"Bought a mint 645" - Uh-oh - Those rather complex medium format ELECTRONIC cameras are failing Left-&-Right. - Electronics AGE (Capacitors go bad and Elect.micro Whiskers form on surface mount components; shorting them out). Better to invest in an ALL MANUAL Hasselblad and a 645 interchangeable back.If a Pano is required, get a Hasselblad SWC with a Pano mask kit for the body & optical finder (MUCH better ZEISS glass & forget about the problematic XPan & TX-1 choices). Plus, with the Hasselblad YOU"LL NEVER LOSE MONEY if you ever want to sell it. - BTW, I'm a camera technician...😎
ITS 120 DROP DAY BOYS
at the pool and get in!
Thanks for this video! I was hoping they would make this in medium format but after your video I definitely will try to get my hands on some Phoenix. Really appreciate your thoughts on this! Thank ya kindly!
Glad it was helpful!
Phoenix looks great. And the 645 Bangers are awesome pushed 1 stop. Best wishes and healing for the missus! I am both a wheelchair user and photographer. (and love rangefinders).
Oh thanks so much! We are in the same rangefinder society then 🥰
These looked great! If you want some great barn pics, I'd recommend going to Cade's Cove in the Gatlinburg/ Pigeon Forge area of Tennessee. During the off season, you can get some pretty great photos without too many people around.
oh nice! ill have to check it
@@BadFlashes Go into Townsend if you do the Cades Cove/Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area. Lots of nice photography there. I've shot bangers of my own there. I live an hour and a half from that area. Also don't miss Look Rock, Clingman's Dome, and the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
Love the VHS look, especially with the sound effect of the tape stopping / starting 🤘📼
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m literally on my way to pick up some rolls and watching this video while on the train. I can hardly wait!
Yay! Please share your results @harmanphoto #harmanphoenix120 #phoenixfilm120
Oh yeah!!!!! 🥰
What up C dawg..... Love the video I needed this today.... Been one of them days..
💯 😘😘😘
Video @ 3:22 "Jason METERS again..." - I don't understand why Jason is ALWAYS using his meter/phone when the lighting in Bright Sunshine Distinct Shadows NEVER CHANGES ! - Hello, Open Shade is another one that Jason should memorize. Heck, just acquire an old film BOX and it will even show him little cartoon examples...
Just wants to be super accurate i suppose
That peak design bag is hella dope. I have to swoop one and fill it with harmon pheonix
Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!
So funny, I took images of that same falling-down barn on Sunday! I even got images of the cattle shoot. I shoot digital, but I still enjoy the channel.
No way! That is such an awesome location… Our dirty little secret spot
I do love that Pegasus 400 packaging 😹😸
hahaha maybe they will take my advice 😛
Awesome video! And I’ll happily shoot this film stick I just it too grain city in 35mm but 120 looks great!!! And the price is right! Totally side question Caleb, where is your hat from? Keep up the great vids!
thanks!
And it is a stetson :)
Been waiting for this vid and 120 release
sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for this! I wanna try!! Speedy recovery wishes to your wife!
Thank you! 😊
I ordered 4 when I got an email this morning. Now say that they have "plans for 220" do it.
DO THEY????? i didnt know .... see i still learn stuff
@@BadFlashes Only if you manifest it... maybe 4x5 too?
Noooooooooo!
@@HARMANPhoto *insert do it meme* unless... did someone just mention 8x10??!?!?
Every time you bring out your 645 I get reminded that I should buy a strap for mine and then forget by the next time I use it.
Maybe I'll get one by the next video!
hahahahaha that's kinda funny ... ive been there
I'll be picking up a couple rools this coming week at my local camera lab/shop. Can't wait to try it out on my Mamiya 645 AFD
Nice!!!! Hope you enjoy
14:36 ! Loving the colors!
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I have yet to try phoenix in both formats but glad they made 120 film of it. I like the music in the beginning. Was that Kitaro? Love Kitaro. Sorry to see your lady in a wheelchair. I hope she makes a speedy recovery. You should give her a camera so she can take photos at waist level.
She was shooting the Pentax 17 :)
Thanks for the well wishes
@@BadFlashes You are welcome. Cool on the pentax 17. I hope you will show her photos as well. Was that kitaro in the beginning of your video?
Those sunset ones at the barn are some of your best. Looks good dude.
Oh thanks!
Great video. Thanks for the review. I ordered four rolls from the FPP this morning.
Good choice!
Hope you enjoy it
Nice shots! That shot at 11:37-38 (the fence line) is my favorite. Yes I did order 2 rolls (Film photography project 10.99 a roll), I am going to feed one roll to my Holga, for Holga Week. 😉
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 nice!!!!!!
My Dawg! was hoping to see this from you today
hells yeah ... im glad :)
Great video Caleb!
🎞️😘🥰
Hey a quick question! How well does it enlarge? I would like to see how it behaves in that setting
Ohhhhhh video idea!!!!!!!
We're getting into autumn in the UK and it'll be perfect condition for phoenix ("low contrast", AKA "grim"). I'll definitely pick up a few rolls.
Do it!!!!!
6:02 dramatic? You? Never! 😹😹😹 I’ve got some rolls on their way to me for playing with the RZ67 😸
hahahahahaha
and SICK LOVE IT
I recommend getting a 3 stop soft-edge GND. It will make a huge difference on all your landscapes that have a horizon. It is vital if you use slide film.
I don’t know if it’s a 3 stop but I do have a Lee system grad, but it’s a bit big for my medium format Mamma Mia … I usually use it for my large format work
❤
🥰 tooo good to me 😘
Enjoyed it. I hope SWMBO (She Who Must Be Obeyed) is back on her feet soon. Freestyle, I ordered from them before you were born - it is good to see they are still there.
oh yeah .... still around and kicking :)
and thanks ☺️
Love this, thanks Caleb. You're right we have lots of plans for the future and are not ruling our world domination😁 (Or Pegasus 400...)
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 let’s goooooooo
PEGASUS 400!!!!!!!!! 😝
Such a fun new stock and great new video dude! I found the sweet spot to be at 125iso for me when shooting🎯
oh baller!
@@StepsAndStoness I think Harman themselves calculated it at 123.6 ISO or something but they say rate it at 200 for some reason.
These are the shots i see in Marlboro/Guess calendars and ads wow
I wish I was doing those ads lol
Ahhhh I can’t help myself but don’t like how it looks. I really want to like it because it’s newly produced but I don’t like it yet. Maybe I would try using it on a totally low contrast foggy day. Dunno. Thx for the review anyways! 😊
OMG that’s a perfect scenario… You should try it if it’s not for you… Try it for me and that scenario lol
Those Nails.. hahahhahaah hope your wife heal fast and ok
thanks :)
Where do i find Captain Crunchy Crunch and the Phoenix Berries? And how badly will it chew up the roof of my mouth?
Great video Caleb. As always, appreciate your perspective and passion.
Ahhhhh thanks!!!!
And I’m trying to that Phoenix berrys in stores 😝
nice shots man . just for clarification , did you shoot your shots at the barn @100 or 200 then push ?
ISO 400 then push 1 development
And thanks :)
Congrats on getting hitched, you crazy kids!!!
🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I only have 80mm lenses for my two M645 1000S'. Both with the 80 1.9. Just to be able to switch between colour and BW without having to switch lenses/finish the roll....😅
You do need to try one of those! Basically the same in terms of DOF as the Takumar 105 2.4 and Canon 50 1.2! They are great fun!
That being said I still need to try either the 45 or the 55. Haven't had the chance.
you will love it
Do you mean pulling or overexposing? Like under development or just overexposing with normal dev?
I have some comments in the show notes. Let me know if that helps explain :)
pegasus 400 does sound sick
hahahhaha maybe they will use it!
Man it actually really shines on 120 v 35… f**k my bank account.
Lol… Who needs money anyway right when you can be rich and film
Now all I gotta do is get a medium format camera! and the funds for said camera. ~ - ~
hahaha do it!!!!!!!!!!
❣
😶🌫️🥳
Men..You don't deserve anything less than a hasselblad… get rid of that 645. I love you
Hahaha I want a Hassy
Hol up, where Jason go?
got to ask him lol
hahahha i checked myself.... thought i missed something..
MF Phoenix? Heck yes!
Heck heck yasssss
I'm confused. If box speed is 200 then shooting it at 100 is the "pulled by 1 stop shot". So If you shoot it at 100 you're already pulling it one stop and then if your second shot is pushed by one stop and the reference is always to box speed, then you shot it at 400? And then how did you actually compensate for the pushing/pulling if all the shots are on the same roll? Pushing and pulling isn't just changing the iso on your light meter. There is a corresponding compensation in development time or type of developer that has to be done in the darkroom. How did you shorten and lengthen the development time when developing the same roll? What am I missing?
Hey hey. Check out the show notes and then get back to me with the questions you might have. :)
That might help explain
@@BadFlashesoh that makes much more sense! Thanks!!!
🫡🙌🏼🥰
You kn ow, vutting the film strip wider and not punching holes in it doesn't make it sharper, less contrasty, reduce the golf ball sized grain, or correct the color imbalances. In short, the 120 looks the same as the 35mm, like shit.
Oh Mr Randall… I enjoy this film. It’s not pro but had a fun style.
Why TF was there a random 80's microwave (or crt?) just chilling in nature?
RIGHT? so weird
Incidentally it was 120° in Phoenix the day this was released. Coincidence? I don't think so.
It was a sign!!!! You need to get some hahaha
dude, is it the scan, the film or did you just miss focus on most of these? This ain't a dig, genuinely curious
did you watch the video on like half res? The images are for sure sharp
@@BadFlashes I m sure I didn't...maybe time to go check my eyes lol
Am I being stupid? It’s iso 200 film shot at iso 100, but you’re pushing it 1 stop… which is to 200?
i have a few different test going on.
I shot at 100 did nothing in development ...then
I shot at 400 and pushed 1 stop .... then
i shot at 800 and pushed 2 stops
i hope that helps
@@BadFlashes Ah! I understand. I think the labelling threw me - it said "iso 100 / +1 stop", so it twisted my brain a little. Anyway, love your work. Thanks for posting
An off cycle video - maybe I'll get paid tomorrow like I normally do when your videos drop!
Hahaha damn you know my cycle
I prefer iso100 shots
nice!
I actually came here for the same shit on a different day though :/
oh damnnnn sorry lol
@@BadFlashes I embraced the different shit. Thoroughly enjoyed it 🤝🏻
The way you talk about pulling and overexposing is confusing, are you pulling in dev or just overexposing?!
Oh, Maybe I’m not explaining enough in this particular episode. I’ve done other episodes about pulling and pushing film.
In this episode, I’m not pulling, but I am pushing in development.
There are a few things I’m doing
1 • overexposing and dev normal
2 • underexposing (rating the film at 400) and pushing it +1 in development
3 • underexposing 2 stops (rating the film at 800) and pushing it +2 in development
Hope that helps
@BadFlashes I think I was just getting confused by wording, this makes plenty of sense and is correct terminology, but I usually use pushing and pulling to describe the whole process of shooting and developing the film at another iso
I’m glad that helps!!! I think that what I was doing I might just never talked about the development part. Maybe I should make another push / pull episode 😝
Hope you like the pics
@BadFlashes oh dude love them, I have really struggled with phoenix so this gives me a lot of hope for 120!
Sadly already sold out. 😢
NO WAY?????
@@BadFlashes Yes, at my friendly analogue dealer in Switzerland. 😢
Bummer. So sorry
sorry dude, they're only letting me like this video once
Hahahahahaha thanks 😊
This thing loses highlights faster than my leica M10.
I wouldn’t know about the m10 😔