How to Pay Off Your Car Loan Faster (it's NOT Velocity Banking)

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  • Learn the fastest, cheapest way to pay off a car loan faster. Velocity Banking strategy VS. payoff car loan directly. Expert shows how to think about paying down any loan.... mortgages, car loans, credit card debt, personal loans. No surprise, Velocity Banking is NOT the best way to do it. Finance expert proves it and shows his math.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 467

  • @irismartinez5753
    @irismartinez5753 5 місяців тому +76

    The way to get rid of debt is to increase your cash flow, and pay down the debts. Thank you for the information.

  • @staceejones2389
    @staceejones2389 6 місяців тому +35

    I’m lost😞 I listened to this over and over and still don’t understand it 🤔 don’t talk about me y’all 😂😂😂

  • @missdee212
    @missdee212 5 місяців тому +37

    I knew he knew what he was doing when he pulled out the Excel spreadsheet

  • @depecheddurand
    @depecheddurand 5 місяців тому +49

    Just put extra on principal , it will be paid off slowly steadily.

    • @byronsonnier9404
      @byronsonnier9404 Місяць тому +2

      Yup!!! and you won't have a higher interest rate! why would you want a higher interest rate!! makes no sense!

    • @angelgirldebbiejo
      @angelgirldebbiejo Годину тому

      They explain why if you study velocity banking​@@byronsonnier9404

  • @prestonstephens7719
    @prestonstephens7719 2 місяці тому +20

    Show of hands…. Who in the hell is living off of $1286 a month today???? Who’s making a $286 a month car payment?????? A Pontiac cost more than that in the 80s.

    • @nathanielgrodzicki5590
      @nathanielgrodzicki5590 Місяць тому +2

      If i didn't have my car loan my monthly expenses would be about 1200. I bought my car mid 2022 and i pay 320 per month for a base model camaro that had 45k miles when i got it. For reference i live in Hagerstown, MD and pay 750 per month for a two bedroom. I'd say it's pretty close.

    • @cocoyoco
      @cocoyoco 13 днів тому +1

      And who is paying 2.5% these days

  • @imnitguy
    @imnitguy 3 місяці тому +33

    I've used 0% interest credit cards to buy cars and to pay down mortgage debt. If you have the income to support it, it can quickly pay off a home loan. Not many people have the cashflow to do this. In my case I have paid off rental properties that generate cash flow in addition to my IT job which pays reasonably well.

    • @Greg-lg3cp
      @Greg-lg3cp 3 місяці тому +15

      Most auto loans don't allow you to use credit cards to pay off loans. How did this work for you?

    • @michaelday6987
      @michaelday6987 3 місяці тому

      @@Greg-lg3cpI got lucky with a car loan of mine. The system allowed me to use a credit card and I got 1% back for like 6 months. I use my credit card as a 0 balance account though.

    • @christopherbabione7088
      @christopherbabione7088 3 місяці тому

      @@Greg-lg3cp I have done this with 0% balance transfer offers from Discover. Discover will send a check to your loan provider which and does not go through normal credit card processing which is why it works. You just have to be careful to only transfer as much as you can reasonably pay off in the promo time. If you don't pay off the 0% loan before the promo time ends, you may wind up at a higher rate than the original car loan.

    • @littlemanmail2001
      @littlemanmail2001 2 місяці тому +2

      Would like to know as well.

    • @tamikacrawford_reallifesh.t
      @tamikacrawford_reallifesh.t 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@Greg-lg3cp he bought the car with the credit card and then paid the credit card with 0% interest

  • @nickimillennium3748
    @nickimillennium3748 3 місяці тому +22

    I'm paying down my car right now. I just divide the total amt due by the number of months that I want to finish paying it off and add the interest that I calculated. I recalculate every month as I get closer to my target date. I do keep a PLOC of $36K on-hand though for medical or natural-disaster emergencies

  • @derekn6070
    @derekn6070 5 місяців тому +65

    You forgot to factor in the base car payments into your schedules in scenario 2, 3, and 4 of $286. The total payment with extra cash flow would be $1619 + $286 = $1905. Now this still means scenario #2 still comes out the winner because of the lower interest. However by factoring this into the velocity banking scenario expenses are now $1000 because of no car payment. This means scenario #4 using velocity banking only costs around $150 more vs. scenario #2. I assumed the first paycheck is on day 1 and weekly payments thereafter. Now that leads to the question as to what interest rate on the PLOC or HELOC would it actually make sense to do velocity banking over just making extra payments. That turns out to be around 5.9% as the break even point if the car loan interest is 2.5%. Very interesting to me and justifies why in some cases it makes sense to do velocity banking over just making extra payments. I punched in the numbers for my own car loan which is at 5.99% whereas my HELOC is 7.7%, I get paid the 1st of the month and monthly. If I factor in the same cashflow of $1619 + my own car payment which is $557.25 based on my pay cheque going straight against the HELOC I save $174.04 using velocity banking over just making extra car payments. Month 10 ends up being my pay off date. So velocity banking is not just a gimmick and can make sense in some cases.

    • @michaelking42
      @michaelking42 4 місяці тому +16

      I have an LOC with $80K balance at 8.5%. I pay it down at $2,000 a month, which will take me 4 years and $13,000 in interest. I have several rental properties producing $8,000 a month. My mortgage payments are $2,100 plus the $2,000 LOC payment, so $4,100 total monthly expenses.
      As of today I started velocity banking using that rental income of $8,000 each month. Now, the rental income satisfies the $2,000 LOC payment (cashflow bump), the time to zero balance on the LOC is 13 months and the interest is $3,000. So, I save nearly 3 years of payments and $10,000 in interest. It will certainly work for me and I'm thrilled I found Christy Vann's channel...if that's who William Lee is referring to.
      One thing that is vastly different about velocity banking and using your cashflow to make extra payments, is the ability to withdraw funds back out if necessary. That's what has kept me from making massive additional principal payments on mortgages. I view the LOC as a place to park my money and offset interest costs. I feel like I'm using the bank's loan against them.

    • @davidgavney6711
      @davidgavney6711 4 місяці тому +5

      He states below in a comment that the car payment of $286 are paid from the $1,619 (i.e. total expenses are 1,572 = 1,286 + 286), so his calculations are correct.

    • @davidgavney6711
      @davidgavney6711 4 місяці тому +3

      @@michaelking42 Take out an LOC and don't touch it and still make extra payments on the mortgage (probably at a lower rate). He mentions that in the video (about 7 and a half minutes in). Then you have the entire LOC for an emergency fund.

    • @michaelking42
      @michaelking42 4 місяці тому

      @@davidgavney6711 Thanks Dave, I've done the spreadsheets to analyze the differences. I already had an $80K balance on the LOC, paying it back at $2K a month. Doing VB will save me 4 years of payments and $10K in interest on the LOC. Once paid down I'll take out $50K to drop on one of my mortgages, then repeat the cycle. Having an LOC certainly frees up the thought process that you need to have cash in the bank for emergencies. The only real emergency cash is the cash under your mattress.

    • @Knowcaptv
      @Knowcaptv Місяць тому

      PREACH😂

  • @HaughtKarl-jx9vr
    @HaughtKarl-jx9vr 4 місяці тому +21

    Using a LOC with a higher interest rate and going through the whole rigmarole of using the LOC like a checking account doesn't make any sense when you can just take the extra cash flow and use it to make principle payments directly to the lender at a lower interest rate.

  • @pauljohnson2870
    @pauljohnson2870 3 місяці тому +7

    I used Velocity Banking to pay off medical debt and 2 car loans in 18 months. I however used a HELOC...not a PLOC...for half the interest rate. Another draw to velocity banking is people are just that...people. The draw to stop paying all of your monthly cash flow to your loans on your own is real. "Its ok to skip this month" makes the whole thing bust. Velocity forced me to stick with it. I will do Velocity with a HELOC any day since the interest is way cheaper than in this 11% comparison.

  • @heartstringsspeak7341
    @heartstringsspeak7341 4 місяці тому +7

    With velocity banking, cash flow typically increases from month to month primarily because:
    1. Expenses decrease
    2. The amount paid in interest also decreases (bc it’s paid on the average daily balance).
    Without seeing how these impact the balance each month, your example falls short.

    • @DouglasForth
      @DouglasForth 4 місяці тому

      Did you not watch the video? 6:00

  • @kennyp1068
    @kennyp1068 3 місяці тому +9

    My mom's been harping me about velocity banking and this was my thinking as well, but I'm glad to see you did the work to prove it.

  • @byronsonnier9404
    @byronsonnier9404 Місяць тому

    Sound advice Mr. Lee thanks for the spreadsheet!! this will help a lot of people!

  • @theresafutrell8470
    @theresafutrell8470 7 місяців тому +24

    Anyone who understands velocity banking “knows” not to work the process with a higher % rate than the rate you already have.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  7 місяців тому +7

      You would hope so, but the Velocity Banking channels often pitch using higher interest rate loans to pay off lower interest rate loans.... and these videos get massive numbers of views, so they are teaching something that doesn't work.

    • @traybern
      @traybern 5 місяців тому

      Christy Vann COUNTS on IDIOTS NOT being able to understand ANYTHING!!!

    • @traybern
      @traybern 5 місяців тому

      @@TheWilliamLeeShow. STUPID people will fall for ANYTHING!! Christy Vann is a TOTAL SCAMMER!!!!

    • @wadecrawford6445
      @wadecrawford6445 4 місяці тому +5

      @@TheWilliamLeeShowmaybe? They also pitch simple interest LOC vs compound interest loans

  • @patricksimmons3491
    @patricksimmons3491 2 місяці тому

    Thank for providing valued information. I was going to do the velocity way.

  • @troyh3628
    @troyh3628 5 місяців тому +14

    Ok, I just stumbled across velocity banking, and I thought I was completely missing something, because it seemed like they were all just skipping over details. This made me think that I am getting too old to do these kinds of things anymore, and I'm glad I do still have my senses.

    • @pleskbruce
      @pleskbruce 5 місяців тому +1

      They do skip details.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому +3

      There is one lady who showed an "Infinity/Velocity Banking" thing on a cluttered whiteboard where the HELOC balance got to zero at month 6, whereupon she declared it was done successfully. Dozens of people commented that she neglected to take out the expenses for that month. So she was showing 6 months of income but 5 months of expenses. Her reply was: {nothing}. She just completely ignored them.
      She also showed where 6 payments of $1,100 paid off a $10,000 balance. Yeah, she ignored the comments about that, too.

    • @troyh3628
      @troyh3628 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Fred2-123 I think I know which lady you mean, and she is actually the one who got me started down this rabbit hole. I'm glad I didn't go any deeper to need a shovel to get me out. I already restructured my debt once over 5 years ago, and I'm just now getting back into the excellent credit score range.

    • @fourierxfm
      @fourierxfm 3 місяці тому

      I too found gaps in her logic and it humorously reminded me of this Sacha Baron Cohen clip: ua-cam.com/video/hiGEh7UoMYg/v-deo.htmlsi=Fwz88NudI1B_l4l4

    • @onefortheroad2291
      @onefortheroad2291 3 місяці тому +1

      I know the lady you refer to. She never answers anything critical even if the point made is concrete

  • @YuGiOhDuelChannel
    @YuGiOhDuelChannel 5 місяців тому +3

    Isnt the payment larger than 1600 with velocity banking? Because the car payment amount is part of the monthly expenses, so when you transfer the entire loan to the ploc, you also remove the monthly car payment from your expenses? Unless the interest alone is near equal to the old car payment?

  • @adrianherbert9441
    @adrianherbert9441 3 місяці тому +2

    Your video came at the right time, thank you!

  • @rajcherian578
    @rajcherian578 5 місяців тому +7

    I will use your video for my clients as a third party info. I tell them the same thing. I am a CFP. But you did it so well explaining.

  • @Ram-ey2pr
    @Ram-ey2pr 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video. This is so helpful, going to use this method to pay off my tesla model 3

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  7 місяців тому +1

      Glad it helped! Thanks very much for your comment!

  • @CForged
    @CForged 7 місяців тому +10

    I was thinking use all the extra cash for principal and use the LOC for emergency instead. Good video

    • @morrismonet3554
      @morrismonet3554 6 місяців тому +1

      Works for me. But I also have a small emergency fund, too.

    • @imnitguy
      @imnitguy 3 місяці тому +1

      That HELOC interest rate can eat you alive if you're not careful. Had a friend transfer his first mortgage to one for this payment flexibility and he is paying 9.5% interest on what used to be a 30 year fixed note at under 4%. Not too smart.

    • @morrismonet3554
      @morrismonet3554 3 місяці тому

      @@imnitguy Yes, using a HELOC to pay off a lower interest loan is just dumb. My house is paid for, and I have a Personal Line of Credit with zero balance. Always dumped extra cash into the principle on the car loan.

  • @dkillahne
    @dkillahne 7 місяців тому +9

    I do believe velocity banking is not the proper way to pay off a loan but the way you calculated the interest on the ploc is probably wrong because the interest is calculated daily on all ploc's I've ever seen, not monthly like a credit card.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому

      No, at the end of the month they calculate the interest as the average daily balance times APR/365.

  • @christiancoronado
    @christiancoronado 3 місяці тому

    Great content, thank you

  • @G-Man67
    @G-Man67 5 днів тому

    I just happened to stumble across this video and I don’t know anything about what he was talking about, but my wife had a coworker tell her to split the monthly payment and pay bi-weekly and add any extra $ every other week and have that extra go towards the principal. We wound up paying off our (used) vehicle about 9 months early!

  • @Based0nPrinciple
    @Based0nPrinciple 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey, do you have a link to that spreadsheet?

  • @joshbryant7363
    @joshbryant7363 5 місяців тому +8

    We really are talking semantics here…and going hard in the “nerdery”… that said, you are missing the payment that would no longer be there in the velocity banking case. If their expenses in the example include that car payment, and they pay it off, they have more to place towards the LOC…its also not included in your second example as it is assumed that the extra cash flow would be in addition to the payment they have. If we are going to break it down to the pennies, it would be interesting to see it calculated accurately. Thanks for the perspective though. BTW…who in the world has a 2.5% car loan any more!?😂😂 I’m staring at 8% hard in the face. 😢

    • @imnitguy
      @imnitguy 3 місяці тому

      Pay cash, no reason to pay 8% car note on something inexpensive and affordable. High standards much?

  • @chinmonkie960
    @chinmonkie960 5 місяців тому +4

    I listened to my mom, I wanted to buy a used car but she was not convinced that it was "safe" and should buy a new car. Still I had the cash to buy the car, instead I listened to her and leased the car and bought it out which was the most painful thing ever. That cost me 5 years with interest.

    • @imnitguy
      @imnitguy 3 місяці тому

      Cash cars are the best value. I bought two Chevy Impalas from govdeals and sold one to my friend who had recently had his car totaled. He paid around $3800 for the car with 80k miles almost four years ago. I spoke to him yesterday and he thanked me for selling him the car and said, I can't believe I haven't had a car payment in this long and the car is still going strong. If you care more about getting where you are going and less about the fancy ride you travel in, you will move lightyears ahead of those with differing priorities. I own two Honda Fits. Why? Because they last forever, they are cheap and they get the job done. My 2018 EX has all kinds of creature comforts like lane keep assist and other things. Most would scoff at such a minimalist ride but it was $15k out the door with 44k miles and should get 300k before it dies. Make smart choices people. Cars are utilitarian. Stop worrying what everyone else thinks, it is none of your business!

  • @TheOliviajules
    @TheOliviajules 6 місяців тому

    Thank you WIlliam!

  • @paulwenzl1711
    @paulwenzl1711 6 місяців тому

    You are correct my friend 👌

  • @franciscoortiz3575
    @franciscoortiz3575 3 місяці тому

    Great advice 🎉

  • @trentherring5640
    @trentherring5640 5 місяців тому

    This is exactly what I thought when I saw the video about velocity banking.

  • @marcelsweatjr5713
    @marcelsweatjr5713 5 місяців тому +4

    Or just make principal only payments which also knocks off the amount of interest you pay on the car loan

  • @boywonder7679
    @boywonder7679 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for the feedback sir 🙏

  • @MalluStyleMultiMedia
    @MalluStyleMultiMedia 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @wadecrawford6445
    @wadecrawford6445 4 місяці тому +3

    Was the interest type adressed? In velocity banking, simple interest LOCs are advised. Aren’t auto loans calculated as compounded interest?

    • @DouglasForth
      @DouglasForth 4 місяці тому

      No, they are not. That's another misleading bit from the VB promoters. APR divided by 12, times the outstanding balance, every single month.

  • @slarrylee
    @slarrylee 8 місяців тому +2

    I love your new channel, William! Thank you for all you do!

  • @margaretlee9175
    @margaretlee9175 8 місяців тому +3

    Great advice, Will! Thank you!

  • @LA-xj3tz
    @LA-xj3tz 5 місяців тому +8

    Transferring debt from 2.5% interest to 10.99% interest! What a great way to continue the cycle of being in debt and broke!

    • @ckersh74
      @ckersh74 5 місяців тому +1

      Bingo. That train derailed before it even left the station.

  • @keithgardner6757
    @keithgardner6757 5 місяців тому +2

    I only lease vehicles and I assumed I couldn't do something like this because I was leasing however, if I was able to do this it would benefit me in numerous ways. So, is it possible when leasing to payoff the lease in eight months and drive the vehicle with no payments due for the remaining twenty-eight months?

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому +3

      No, leasing is different. It's not a loan, it's more like a long-term rental. So while I'm sure they'd be happy for you to pay all of it upfront, that would not benefit you.... it would hurt you (because you'd be paying them early for no benefit).

  • @royalproductions83
    @royalproductions83 18 днів тому

    Great lesson!

  • @carloskymvilches1765
    @carloskymvilches1765 4 місяці тому

    If I open a PLOC at my bank, can they help me get it started?

  • @NevahNormal
    @NevahNormal 5 місяців тому

    Good Job William!

  • @s.h.2546
    @s.h.2546 7 місяців тому

    Thank You

  • @gilbertbeltran7690
    @gilbertbeltran7690 3 місяці тому +1

    What’s the deference between a ploc and a credit card

  • @cryptonator1988
    @cryptonator1988 3 дні тому

    What if you use a heloc or ploc to invest in a rental property and or idk stocks and slowly pay that back while your investment is earning you money 💰 is this a better idea to use the heloc or ploc instead of paying bills? If you use this money to invest and make you money it kinda makes sense because most people don't have free money sitting around to invest im not talking about using the whole loc or heloc just whar someone knows they can pay back maybe 15-30% of the loc or heloc put it into stocks with charles schuab or something maybe high yield savings account or something.. these are just ideas not saying im correct by any means just curious to know if this can work?

  • @Victic005
    @Victic005 3 місяці тому

    Of course.

  • @tanyarivera5843
    @tanyarivera5843 3 місяці тому

    The majority of home expenses such as water electricity gas cell do not allow LOC or credit cards to pay these items so the only expenses such as groceries personal expenses and gas would be paid with loc

  • @KevinP32270
    @KevinP32270 3 місяці тому

    THANKS!

  • @CoryLafund
    @CoryLafund 26 днів тому +21

    I'm 42 with $300k in my 401k and a stock and crypto portfolio worth a combined $850k. I started investing just 2 years ago after working for 15years and having just short of 70k in savings. I'm still with the same company but my decision to invest has made the difference for me and my family. Investing is your best friend. The sooner you start, the better off you are.

    • @Fabulousmathaias
      @Fabulousmathaias 26 днів тому

      You could retire now If you moved to a
      cheaper country. Good job.

    • @NaomieEvaAddams
      @NaomieEvaAddams 26 днів тому

      It’s scary how this is the life of an average American. Years of working and very little or nothing to show for it.

    • @BrettGregory299
      @BrettGregory299 26 днів тому

      Living from paycheck to paycheck is no way to live, Was stuck in the rat race for a long time, been there, and investing will always be better.

    • @RyanCole295
      @RyanCole295 26 днів тому

      The importance of investing can never be overestimated.

    • @DanielHaskel
      @DanielHaskel 26 днів тому +2

      I got laid off my job and started investing in February, invested 34k in the market and my portfolio is currently worth slightly over 97k. That's more than I make in a year from my job. I’m glad I didn’t shy away from investing

  • @SeaniBeauty
    @SeaniBeauty 7 місяців тому +1

    Great content ❤

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  7 місяців тому

      Thanks!

    • @jimjam5570
      @jimjam5570 7 місяців тому +1

      Sure, until you see the problem with his math. I guess the difference between the interest and the car payment just becomes his cpa fee, instead of going toward the principle and being subbed from expenses... 🤷

  • @Zenalliecat
    @Zenalliecat 27 днів тому

    Is it simple interest or compound interest?

  • @tommyb52
    @tommyb52 7 місяців тому +10

    Does anyone know where to et a 2.5% car loan today? Asking for a friend, lol.

  • @nyemadebaker-marsh7731
    @nyemadebaker-marsh7731 3 місяці тому

    Wait! In the 5K example did you say 5k will help me pay the loan off early by only one year?

  • @terencescott3957
    @terencescott3957 5 місяців тому +1

    The most important thing you said was to get a PLOC and pnly use it for emergencies. I have one and im dabbling around with it. It has made life easier financially and mentally.

  • @lucybarnard9000
    @lucybarnard9000 5 місяців тому +1

    Finally, no nonsense approach to a video about finances.

  • @julianbrittain3678
    @julianbrittain3678 3 місяці тому +1

    I feel like you should have used a mortgage payment as an example cause I feel like it works better there but I’m not sure

  • @sonicclang
    @sonicclang Місяць тому +2

    I think using a line of credit to pay off a car loan, putting all your paychecks in it, using it for bills and misc spending, is playing a little fast and loose with credit. It's way too easy to get yourself used to always spending on credit. I would suspect that a lot of people who do that end up never paying off the LOC, and end up in a way worse situation than had they just made extra payments to the original car loan.

  • @sasukesuite1
    @sasukesuite1 5 місяців тому +2

    But why do I want to pay off my 4% car loan if my high yield savings account is paying me 5.35%?

  • @MartinX192
    @MartinX192 5 місяців тому +4

    Im not sure on a car loan but dumping chunks into mortgage principal at the start will definitely help a lot. Even a 25% monthly interest rate CC is a hell of a lot lower interest than a 6% 30 year mortgage interest

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому +1

      Ouch, you are so wrong! Please don't do this!!

    • @DouglasForth
      @DouglasForth 4 місяці тому

      It's sad what these VB charlatans have taught people. Martin, if you can't do the math yourself, find a trusted friend who can.

  • @cookiedough5374
    @cookiedough5374 5 місяців тому +1

    I made an extra payment on my loan and the just called it a prepayment and did not lower the balance interest was calculated on.

  • @Arlene_witha_y
    @Arlene_witha_y 7 місяців тому +17

    The thing is, lines of credit interest isn’t fixed it’s based on the balance. So the paycheck in the account for most of the month then withdrawn at the time to pay bills lowers the daily average balance which decreases the interest rate for that month. Even with a fixed loc. the fix prevents it from going up, but it can always be less depending on how low the balance is. It’s an option for people who can’t throw all their extra disposable income to the car

    • @carlsapartments8931
      @carlsapartments8931 7 місяців тому +5

      sorry but it doesn't decrease the interest rate for that month, it only decreases the interest amount based on the new balance, the interest rate stays the same unless bank changes your rate up or down for some reason.

    • @r0902716
      @r0902716 6 місяців тому

      @@carlsapartments8931 I think you are right. My bank changes the LOC interest rate as the Prime Rate changes on the unpaid balance. But, I also think that the object is to get the lowest payment of interest to obtain the savings.

    • @icantfinditdammit
      @icantfinditdammit 5 місяців тому +1

      The interest rate is fixed. You can't even get the terms correct.

  • @funnyside6
    @funnyside6 3 місяці тому

    Worst scenario ever passed by me. My BIL wanted to refinance his mortgage 3.75% 30-year-fixed rate mortgage for cash out to pay off a loan used for renovations that was ending it's 0% interest period. So, he wanted to refinance his current balance and add $30k to the principal and pay 6.25% on all of it on a new mortgage. I suggested a Home Equity Loan (HELOAN, not a HELOC), 15-year-fixed rate at 8.99% and keep his 3.75% first mortgage.

  • @begrateful8934
    @begrateful8934 5 місяців тому

    Its not wrong but if you did your way you basically have absolutely no cash for anything at all. Good point at the end 2 shae!

  • @marty64thornton
    @marty64thornton 3 місяці тому

    Pay your daily interest every single day. Then on the day your payment is due all of your payment goes toward the principal. I paid off my car loan in 2.5 yrs time

  • @Idlax1004
    @Idlax1004 7 місяців тому +62

    You forgot to add the extra 286 a month they would have for cash flow because the car note would be gone.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  7 місяців тому +5

      No, that's included.

    • @techshark6181
      @techshark6181 7 місяців тому +22

      Yes he forgot, No it is not, then cash flow would be $1905......

    • @jaimegranero9027
      @jaimegranero9027 6 місяців тому +12

      ​@@TheWilliamLeeShowwhere did you include the 286?
      You left the same expenses and cashflow amount

    • @CFarris2462
      @CFarris2462 6 місяців тому +11

      I realized it as well he didn't adjust his new cash flow & expenses which shows his scenario would save more money through velocity banking & paying off the car loan quicker.

    • @cameupcool
      @cameupcool 5 місяців тому +10

      Yes he forgot to add car payment. And bloc interest is calculated daily not simple average.

  • @spatty2589
    @spatty2589 5 місяців тому

    For me I don’t want to get an additional ploc or heloc. I split the extra money I made btw the car loan and savings. Once the savings got 1K above what was left on the car loan I paid off the car loan. Saved about a year in payments. This worked well when interests rates were low. Velocity banking works well when interest rates are high.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому +1

      Velocity banking only works if the LOC has lower interest rate than the car loan or mortgage. Unfortunately, this is almost never the case.

  • @jayfran3970
    @jayfran3970 7 місяців тому +16

    I think you forgot to remove the car payment if you transfer it and use PLOC or Velocity Banking, that 286 car payment no longer exists, there for whatever the account you using will dictate the payment and interest... so really it could be whatever their cash flow is $1619 + the car payment they were paying out 286, let round off to 1900 a month that can be dedicated and technically, whatever account that balance is on will not have a payment since they would already be paying 1900.... They'd actually end up saving on interest and could pay the car off in 6-7 months. Thats a fact!

    • @JOHN77135
      @JOHN77135 6 місяців тому +2

      Agree a big miss

    • @Annatainment01
      @Annatainment01 6 місяців тому +1

      Yep, you’re right.

    • @morrismonet3554
      @morrismonet3554 6 місяців тому +1

      Fist example is still the best one. Just pay the car loan down early with extra cash. It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to know you don't replace a low interest loan with a high interest one.

    • @investmentanalyst779
      @investmentanalyst779 5 місяців тому

      Only an idiot transfers a 2.5% loan to 11% then pays it off. lol doesn’t even almost make sense.

    • @investmentanalyst779
      @investmentanalyst779 5 місяців тому

      @@JOHN77135 It's not a miss. $286 isn't included in the base cashflow. $1619 is what's available before ANY loan payment at all. Therefore, it's included in all scenarios. $1619 it's what's left from you job to pay the car.

  • @jeremydanger5350
    @jeremydanger5350 Місяць тому

    Velocity banking only really works with mortgages. Because you save a lot of money on interest by moving ahead on the amortization table.

  • @ericfinn5484
    @ericfinn5484 5 місяців тому +1

    They are right, even in your last drop down chart, you are still saying the expenses are at $1286. At this point the car is paid off. The expenses would drop down to $1000 and daily would be $33.34 not $42.87. Still doesn't change the results very much, you are still paying an extra $307 with the Velocity way as opposed to just paying directly to the loan. If you locked in at a low rate like this, there is almost no point in paying it off early. You can make much more than 2.5% even if you put that extra money into an online savings account. Im earning 4.5% right now. Velocity will only work for the benefit if you have high interest loans or debt.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому +1

      The expenses including the car loan are $1,572 per month. Expenses excluding the car loan are $1,286. So when the loan is paid off, the correct remaining expenses are $1,286. Re. just investing the extra money instead of paying off the car loan, I agree. A person with a 2.5% loan could use their extra income today and invest over 4%. But remember, then you have to pay taxes on that interest at ordinary income tax rates, so after tax interest income is probably in the low 3% range. At theat point, the extra income is so small that a person might be happier just paying off the loan.

  • @namanning14
    @namanning14 5 місяців тому +1

    i would like to know where you got the 2.5% interest rate on the auto loan. the lowest i could find was in Dec 2021 at 3.85%

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому +1

      That was the interest rate on the loan that was used in the other person's video. They claimed that their client had that rate. I don't know if it's accurate.

    • @namanning14
      @namanning14 5 місяців тому

      @@TheWilliamLeeShow thank you

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому

      I just paid off my 1.99% car loan. Taken out 36 months ago. I *never* made extra payments. Instead the extra month went into CDs and T-bills paying 3%-5%.

  • @jjpop24
    @jjpop24 5 місяців тому

    What is the benefit of paying off a depreciating asset that will never be worth what you paid? Wouldn't it make better sense to put that extra money into an asset that works at making money like a stock or IRA? You pay it off in 8 months taking off 35 months but you won't break even on the extra $10,000 you put into the car for 6 more months (rough estimate). Considering how high rates are right now wouldn't an interest free roll-over on a credit card make more sense? Plus paying off the car leaves you with no activity on your credit report so having the installment loan is a benefit correct? For example: I took my CC debit and rolled it twice into cards with zero interest for 12 months until I paid them off using profits from an home I sold but have not paid off my car note or bike note. This has allowed me to build my credit score to over 800 and let me invest some of the profits.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому

      Doesn't matter that the car is depreciating. You have to pay it off anyway. I agree, though, that with a 2.5% interest rate (which is low now compared to market interest rates), it might make sense to invest it instead. Put it in stocks, though, and the market could go down and you would have been better off paying off the loan. Or invest in a lower risk interest-paying asset, but you'll have to pay taxes on the interest income, so the after tax interest won't be that much above the 2.5% interest rate on the car loan. For many people, simply paying off the car makes sense just to be done with it. I like what you did using 0% teaser rates on credit cards.... definitely do that if you can get those rates. I've done the same myself.

  • @kennethfinley9014
    @kennethfinley9014 7 місяців тому

    Good afternoon, question where was your video before the velocity banking videos was made?

  • @themagoofiles5985
    @themagoofiles5985 5 місяців тому +3

    A+! Thank you for comparing paying EXTRA on the original low rate loan. The VB videos NEVER do this as they would always loose paying 3x MORE interest!!

  • @F_Evans
    @F_Evans 7 місяців тому +11

    You had me up until you stated if you put all your cash flow into paying off your car note and you have no money for things that may come up; to get a Loc or Ploc. Well in that scenerio you are basically accruing another debt if you use that Loc for extra things you may need and at 10% interests on a daily average thats not very smart? Or am i missing something. Seems to me Velocity banking is just a form of banking from your LOC instead of your checking account. That way it keeps the interest reasonable and you have cash flow if you need.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, Velocity Banking is just using your LOC or PLOC or HELOC as a checking account. It's often not the magic that the Velocty Banking enthusiasts claim it is. And it comes with real risks - if guaranteed by your other assets - of having those assets foreclosed on if for some reason you can't make the payments. Imagine using a HELOC (a loan on your home) to pay down your car or your credit card. What if something happens and you can't make the payment? Now they can foreclose on your home.

    • @irismartinez5753
      @irismartinez5753 5 місяців тому

      You are supposed to have an emergency fund

    • @brandnew2327
      @brandnew2327 5 місяців тому

      Well technically that would affect your mortgage payment as well. If you can't"afford" to pay heloc/ploc then u wont be able to pay any of your bills. ​@TheWilliamLeeShow

    • @brandnew2327
      @brandnew2327 5 місяців тому

      Plus the heloc payment is your paycheck. If you lose your job then the heloc and original mortgage and electric trash gas and water bill will ALLL be an issue. What if I got out of that debt in 6 months instead of riding it out 5 years. For a few extra $ I'll do it 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @robertdiaz7138
    @robertdiaz7138 5 місяців тому

    You added wrong
    286 x 46 is $13,156 not $12,989. Other than that awesome video

  • @christopherrogers8316
    @christopherrogers8316 3 місяці тому +1

    what if you pay your car payment twice a month, the same amount, but twice a month? wont it reduce interest?

    • @imnitguy
      @imnitguy 3 місяці тому

      Depends on your bank and the rules of the contract you signed with them. Most of the time, no.

  • @InfiniteVelocityUSA
    @InfiniteVelocityUSA 3 години тому

    Chunk amount should be made for 4 months cash flow payments only, not entire payment. Needs to be paid towards principal.

  • @christ.4977
    @christ.4977 5 місяців тому +5

    I thought velocity banking was to take a high interest loan and utilize a lower interest LOC to pay it off. This scenario is clearly backwards. There is something to be said about the financial gymnastics one has to do to save a few bucks in interest. Velocity banking might only make sense in very specific cases.

    • @ceedee8953
      @ceedee8953 5 місяців тому

      You're correct! If he had done the scenario the way vb is intended (with the ploc at a lower interest rate, he wouldnt be able to prove vb methods wrong.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому

      @@ceedee8953 Yes, but almost always the PLOC or HELOC has a higher interest rate.

    • @DouglasForth
      @DouglasForth 4 місяці тому

      @@ceedee8953 He didn't make it up. The scenario came from one of the VB charlatans.

  • @mels3173
    @mels3173 3 місяці тому +1

    I heard you talk about what not to do. It is probably better to focus on what to do. I am sure it is in there but I do not have time to listen to what I should not do.

  • @mrspunk61
    @mrspunk61 7 місяців тому +9

    I'm just wondering how you only have a expenses of $1286 and a cash flow of $1619. If that was my case I would at a minimum double my car payment. I looked at all your scenarios and I'm assuming they add up. I think anything that will pump up people to get out of debt sooner is a good thing so if Velocity banking works for some people atleast it gets them off of the mat and on the road to be being debt free even if it doesn't work out perfect. I would say taking all of your cash flow and putting it on the car loan which would work also leaves you with the feeling of being broke all the time. My method for staying out of trouble is to pay 1/4 of all your bills every week. I don't mean your cable bill one week and next week pay your car loan etc.. I mean take your $160 electric bill for instance and set up automatic $40 a week payments, better yet make it $45 or $50. Do that with every bill you have and in time you will have a negative balance due each month on every bill. Some months also have 5 pay periods. before you know it all your bills are paid one or 2 months in advance. Then when unexpected expenses come up you could postpone a payment or 2 and you're still good. It removes a lot of anxiety. Try your best to be in the drivers seat

    • @irismartinez5753
      @irismartinez5753 5 місяців тому +1

      Never heard of this method but it makes sense. Thanks for sharing.

    • @terencescott3957
      @terencescott3957 5 місяців тому

      The only thing I break up is my house payment. I get paid 3x a month so I pay my house payment in 3rds. Most of the time my house payment is paid 10 days before the 1st of the month.

    • @mrspunk61
      @mrspunk61 5 місяців тому

      Thats what I do but I split it up into quarters and pay once a week but I do that every week so I pay 13 monthly payments a year. It's a great feeling to be ahead on bills. It's easy to do if you just pay a little extra on each bill per week @@terencescott3957

  • @Joce123
    @Joce123 5 місяців тому

    I ALWAYS have cars..for multiple cars my auto insurance is less for 2 than one 2021 truck insurance. I have an old nonrunning car in "storage " saves me $720 yr in vehicle insurance..will pay my mortgaged 2021off because with a loan I am required to have full coverage..with my 2021 paid off I can choose to put it in "storage"..if I have a financisl crisis..I do not put $ into my old 1994 second car..just take it out of "storage: and use Uber until I get a new job, pay off medical debt or whatever the financial crisis

  • @featherpayne
    @featherpayne 7 місяців тому +4

    I was following along but in the 4th example I do not see that you changed the amounts. All cash flow would change because they no longer have 286.00 dollar payment for the car since it was wiped out with the ploc. So now expenses would be 1000.00 a month. Cash flow would be 1905.00 per month. So I am not following along with where you went from there.

    • @jimjam5570
      @jimjam5570 7 місяців тому +4

      Glad someone else noticed that. Not only did he not move the 286, but he says the interest is higher, but that's not even true because as soon as you put the income plus the extra 286, the average interest is on 10476 (before the expenses which would be reduced) which is like 94 and change, as opposed to the over 100$ he has for options 3&4... all of which make the fact that he made a point of saying he's a cpa VERY concerning. 🤷

    • @davidgavney6711
      @davidgavney6711 4 місяці тому

      He states in another comment that the car payment of $286 is paid from the $1,619 (i.e. total expenses are 1,572 = 1,286 + 286), so his calculations are correct.

  • @pleskbruce
    @pleskbruce 5 місяців тому +3

    The scary thing is the VB lady that talks about paying off a fixed rate mortgage with a variable rate HELOC.

    • @Fred2-123
      @Fred2-123 4 місяці тому +1

      Well, she also pays off a $10,000 balance with 6 payments of $1,100. The true scary thing is that the comments on her videos are full of people who believe her.

  • @jit2893
    @jit2893 5 місяців тому +2

    So what's the senerio when car loan is at 26 percent and the ploc is at 14 percent

    • @David-zl6jr
      @David-zl6jr 3 місяці тому

      VERY Few should get a Car % RATE that high, UNLESS KNOW they're doing to make more money Soon & Better their credit score/Lower That HIGH RATE in 6 - 9 mos!
      A Canadian Friend had a High RATE Luke the 1 you mentioned & the highest I paid, when credit was bad in 2016 was 12%...

  • @jarard34
    @jarard34 27 днів тому +3

    You just spent an entire 10 minutes to tell us "you can pay off your car faster if you put every single dime you have into it every month". Thanks Sherlock

  • @MeskaCola-fz8dt
    @MeskaCola-fz8dt 5 місяців тому

    good

  • @ameroamigo1
    @ameroamigo1 5 місяців тому

    I thought I would dislike this video, but then the math was good. So I was good. This is a very simple example. The best examples for velocity banking include multiple credit cards and credit balances involved for which previous credit is extended and are not ordinarily this simple.

  • @justineubank6497
    @justineubank6497 День тому

    Basically pay more than your monthly payment. The more extra cash you throw at your loan the faster you'll pay it off.

  • @mattmcdaniel6819
    @mattmcdaniel6819 5 місяців тому +1

    Could you show your work please? I show the car payment transfer into the PLOC satisfies the original car loan and the $286/month payment is deducted from expenses each month. Then I show $107.50 interest payment is added to monthly expenses. This would result in a month 1 $178.50 increase to the cash flow number all things staying the same.

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому +1

      I showed my math - it's the spreadsheet in the video. Re. the increase in cash flow that you mentioned, you only increased the cash flow (the way you explained it) by only making interest payments on the new PLOC loan and by NOT making any additional payment to pay off the principal. But you have to pay down the PLOC. So that increase in cash flow is only an illusion.... or it's temporary, however you want to think of it.

  • @andyslawnsheretoserveyou2041
    @andyslawnsheretoserveyou2041 Місяць тому +1

    Keep it simple hand them cash then they hand you the title done deal💯👍💯

  • @brendatate4822
    @brendatate4822 4 місяці тому

    interesting.

  • @imnitguy
    @imnitguy 3 місяці тому

    Cash cars are the best value. I bought two Chevy Impalas from govdeals and sold one to my friend who had recently had his car totaled. He paid around $3800 for the car with 80k miles almost four years ago. I spoke to him yesterday and he thanked me for selling him the car and said, I can't believe I haven't had a car payment in this long and the car is still going strong. If you care more about getting where you are going and less about the fancy ride you travel in, you will move lightyears ahead of those with differing priorities. I own two Honda Fits. Why? Because they last forever, they are cheap and they get the job done. My 2018 EX has all kinds of creature comforts like lane keep assist and other things. Most would scoff at such a minimalist ride but it was $15k out the door with 44k miles and should get 300k before it dies. Make smart choices people. Cars are utilitarian. Stop worrying what everyone else thinks, it is none of your business!

  • @SpineChillingChronicles
    @SpineChillingChronicles 5 місяців тому

    Well yes and NO......What about emergencies? what about the money from the 4th example it is the same as example 3, did you forget to add any extra money from payments that were using the POLC? So many other factors that Velocity banking, your way, or anyone else's is NOT the right for everyone.. SO I recommend using all this methods and come up with what makes sense for your particular scenario!! I have used credit cards for the last 20 years, and I have yet to pay Interest on any of them!!!

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому

      I totally agree.... every scenario is different, so a person needs to run the math on their unique situation to see if something will or won't work. Credit cards can be great IF you use them in a way that gets you the benefits (the points) without incurring any cost (the crazy high interest cost).

  • @auzz21z
    @auzz21z Місяць тому

    Ok but what about a vehicle with a high interest rate like 16-20%

  • @RyanJohnson-ft6qi
    @RyanJohnson-ft6qi 5 місяців тому +3

    Get out of debt will be easier in a maga economy

  • @kito1san
    @kito1san 5 місяців тому

    Wait.. if your interest rate is low, prior to 2021 Why would you want to pay it off so fast?

  • @moondar8660
    @moondar8660 5 місяців тому

    there is another qualifier: is the ploc interest higher or lower than the interest rate on the car loan?

    • @TheWilliamLeeShow
      @TheWilliamLeeShow  5 місяців тому

      The interest rate is mentioned in the video. I don't recall offhand what it was.

  • @robertc8766
    @robertc8766 5 місяців тому +1

    how about pay cash always....never borrow money except manageable mortgage

    • @michelleadams5609
      @michelleadams5609 5 місяців тому

      Because the system requires it. Try having a low FICO score and getting a place to live, car ins. or have a job in finance. Lessons learned.

  • @Mateo-us4bn
    @Mateo-us4bn 5 місяців тому

    thank you for pointing out the obvious gaps in velocity banking logic.... Everyone doesnt compare apples to apples. This video does it.

  • @caramellesh4597
    @caramellesh4597 2 місяці тому

    What if you have 0 cash flow?