@@joshuanashid7 How do you define "barely"? Cole averages 1 new project every other year, that's a normal output rate for most rappers. Few rappers drop every year, or multiple times a year and when they do, its usually not a good thing
Scarface is underated. With Geto Boys and his solo career he's been putting in work for 30+ years. He's a straight story teller. He gets my vote for the GOAT...
@@davidadams1298 yeah but Biggie still has more playback value to me. I'm not using that logic to say that's why Big is better, I'm just saying Em deteriorated. I do think Big is better though
Most people in the comments don’t understand how they’re doing this. If you’re going to name people like that then the board would have to be 10x bigger. This is influence. People you just named are just memorable rappers.
i really shocked they didn't put Lupe on there, especially after his masterpiece, drogas waves was released and he was putting it down way before chance the rapper SMDH
@@Weedwaffles you wanna talk influence? 3 6 Mafia's style is stitched into the fabric of damn near every trap artist out today, not to mention they directly inpired Raider Klan and A$AP Mob which birthed every soundcloud rapper since 2011
Not no ugk over Scarface....face was definitely the man solo and with the geto boys....he truly doesn't get the respect he deserves and I never quite understood that....face is King of the south hands down
Cedric Taylor honestly NWA was more influential but you could argue that as a creative force and on pure rapping ability Kendrick is better than all of them
KalebC21 exactly why he was pitted against the entire group as one dude he’s got pretty much all their talent combined with the exception of Dre and yella only because they produce and Kendrick does not
He's doing this in a tournament bracket format and he's doing it north, south, east and west. Kendrick vs NWA just so happened to be in the same round.
@@nuknuknuk111 none, but you know I'm right. Just because Rakim was one of the first people who dropped a classic album doesn't automatically make him the best. His outdated lyrics were good for the time but they don't mean Jack in today's era
Bun B is a legend in so many ways. UGK have had a huge impact on the culture. Bun B has always been a student of the game, even as one of the O.Gs. If you love hip-hop, you have to have respect and admiration for Bun B.
DMX NOT BEING ON HERE IS A JOKE!! GREAT LYRICIST. DROPPED 2 OF THE GREATEST RAP ALBUMS EVER!! SOLD 18 MILLION IN HIS FIRST 18 MONTHS AS A MAINSTREAM M.C!!! FIRST ARTIST OF ANY GENRE TO DEBUT WITH HIS FIRST 5 ALBUMS AT NO.1!! THE DISRESPECT
I think they just chose more popular rappers/groups that they prefered to be in the tournament brackets. Doing a bracket format like this to compare rappers isn't very accurate because there are just too many greats out there to compare. I think this video was just for fun and more about their own tastes rather than over all greatest rapper of all time. To each their own tho right? Still interesting to see other people's perspectives
Uncool Chuck it’s a popularity contest, for straight lyrics I don’t see how anyone from the North could have gotten past Vakill, but he ain’t popular so he wasn’t on this list. With that said common > Kanye for sure. And with that said, BDK > everyone on this list.
Listen to 2pac's unreleased og material and it's impossible to not pick him as #1. It's not just California Love, Hit 'em Up and Dear Mama there's a lot more.
@@Beezy_420 yeah but it's hard to compare the two, when one died by the time he was 25 ( Pac). Can you imagine if we had another 15 years? Wayne was born in 82", and still going. He definitely is goat material, and had his time on top.
Shadowtheh fang ye I know but Tupac’s sales still count even if he is dead so people can still buy his albums and they still count but ye ur right he u never know but still Eminem is the record holder in terms of sales with only one gold (Revival) which still got 633,000 first week sales so
jparker-23 I wasn’t saying chance was the best or biggest Chicago rapper, but even still change is arguably more successful and popular than anyone else from Chicago, he’s had big songs that have charted probably made more money than anyone and is basically a house hold name
Cole my favorite current rapper atm believe me, but hes still working I don't think cole has left his mark just yet, I think he hasn't impacted enough to be on here just yet, soon though
@@thealexshapiro j Cole has been in the game longer than chance, and has had a bigger impact in my opinion. I think the reason chance is on here is because of how he was well received by non-hip hop listeners last year
António Quintans I love Nas he’s my favorite rapper but one thing I can say is that Hov has a better body of work overall and has more classics under his belt.
o Coachk We all know who outkast is, a rap group who's in fact also a rock/soul/pop group ... The same people who complain about Drake are the same people who idolize Outkast, bone thug, fugee, Ja Rule, Nelly ... Im not one of them, Outkast is a legendary rap group, its not because an artist make pop/r&b songs as well that he isnt a rapper .. But for me Lil Wayne is way bigger, better and influencial. He is probably even the most influencial ever with pac .. And he is the king of punchline, word play and metaphore, he has many different flow and voices, his beats are always on point, he can rap on any beats and subject he is the most versatile. Lil wayne for me didnt receive the respect he should have, he is in my top 3 personaly.
“My Dark Twisted Fantasy Nightmare is one of the best albums of all time” okay if thats what you think at least get the name of the fucking album right sheesh
Tupac rhyme schemes are underrated as a lyricist ..his persona and controversy and his mainstream tracks overshadowed his skills and his penmanship so a lot of people actually sleep on him. Find me a rapper who can make a classic double album in 2 weeks -all eyes on me Better yet a classic album in 3 days( +4days to mix it) makaveli Killuminati 7day theory And then 300+ unreleased songs to carry on a legacy while he’s dead. Tupac really is the Goat
Biggie had 2 albums alive 20 + years and his jams are still knocking,and most on the list bit his style and use his songs as hooks.Remember during that time, he was writing for Kim, puffy,Jm.....
MrBiggz876 not to knock Biggie coz he’s dope but the east coast ran hiphop at the time biggie died ..so when he was called king of king York it was literally like calling him king of hiphop at the time ..which he really wasn’t. Pac was just more prolific than Big. He did more in 9months after being released from prison than biggie did in 2years. The only rapper to ever put in more work since pac died is possibly lil Wayne. Biggie was a rap icon ..pac is a cultural icon who has sold 3x times more records than biggie ..why?? Coz more people around the world felt pac’s music..why? Coz he’s just the better artist. Tupac is the most imitated rapper of all time even more after he died. Opinions aside ..we can put facts and stats together and pac comes out on top. no one has achieved what pac did in 5 years at 25 years old. Most anybody’s top 5 needed more time on their side. Even my favourite rappers like eminem and jay z needed more time and that’s what they had.
I always wondered how come Bun B & Eminem never worked together tho. I always wanted an Eminem & Bun B collaboration. Bun B is hella underrated as a lyricist & people sleep on him.
I mean Nas is the better Lyricist, I get that. But apart from that, what can you say against Jay-Z? He has an amazing flow, perfect beat selection, 3 classic albums imo, he is one of the best storytellers in the rap game, he is still making music on a high level, etc.
@@KompSavage I wish I was from NY so I can see this, that is subjective but LL I agree that diss was nice and I think if any disses / battles that "ended" canibus it would be that one and the battle with Diz NOT the corny em diss track, but canibus is still rapping till this day
@@mrqh406 They probably know DOOM, its simply that they conversations usually only include mainstream rap. As far as "The GREATS" go, its diffucult to be in the GOAT conversation, when you're an underground artist like DOOM. MF, Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, EL-P, Del and Masta Ace are all some of the best of all time though. Non-mainstream artists like Common and Black Thought also deserve to be in the conversation
@@ruimicas2932 pac was more influential for people, id say big was more influential to rappers tho...the guy was already a legend when he was alive, with 1 album lol. he had his own lane that no one dared to cross. His flows, word plays, story telling (gimme the loot for example, fantastic song that tells a story) he was on another level...Pac was more of a peoples person, a poet imo. biggie was a pure rapper
@@cowboys3221 many people dissed biggie, he just couldnt be bothered, biggie was the biggest thing back then, whilst other rappers were just rappers in a growing, but still kinda small rap game (compared to today, as today rap is the most popular genre). When i said no one crossed him, i meant no one claimed they were the king, or even if they did, they still accepted biggie was the only king of new york
Outkast's influence stretched well beyond color barriers. Everyone loved Outkast and the culture shifted. Not to mention some of the dopest lyrics and anthems. Big Boi alone makes the list, andre obviously...c'mon
How many influential artists have come out of the south...endless talent. Wayne is great but idk how you could ever say he's better as an artist or more influential.
@@lyellmurzello4031 Listen to any Eminem song and try to sing the lyrics. You won't succeed. You just can't follow it. The flow is out of this world and he also raps really fast sometimes.
@@islandgaming3230 that's what I've been hearing but they said the same about J Cole and it was 🔥🔥 plus folks listen to hip-hop for different reasons 🤷♂️ I'm a music head so I don't mind trap but I wanna hear content as well
@@nerdy_trucker7834 it's not terrible by any means bro it just has that stench of Kanye all over it plus it feels like an EP. And I know illmatic was only 9 songs but it was quality over quantity.
When he said you can go to any country around the world with Tupac shirt on and Tupac will be something in there, and thats a fact. At to where am from, Tupac get mad respect and love out here. He is so well known out here, there is people who love him and they don’t even listen to rap, just him and his personality.
I'm a Pac fan over Biggie. But I can understand Big coming out on top. I always thought Big had better flow and cadence. BUT Pac's music had more substance and touched on more issues. Both G.O.A.T.'s. So sad we never got to see them receive any lifetime achievement awards. Could yall imagine what those speeches would have been like. #respect to both parties.
No Big L, no Masta Ace, No Guru, No Rakim or KRS One or Kool G Rap or Big Daddy Kane, no MF DOOM, no Redman, no Kurupt, no Big Pun, no DMX..who the fuck wrote this list and left all them out but were like “yo Chance the Rapper and Drake GOTTA be on there” 🥴🥴🥴
Hell yeah the Devil's Son and the Villian of Hip Hop, Big L- "I got drug spots from New York to Canada, Cuz Big L be fuckin with mo keys than a Janitor" and DOOM- "There's four sides to every story, if these walls could talk, they'd probably still ignore me"
I don’t care if someone is a casual fan of hip hop... everyone involved in the game should recognize Big L for the talent he was. He could rap circles around jay z and stand toe to toe with biggie, his life was cut shorter than both of them so he didn’t gain nearly as much notoriety. He definitely deserves a top 10 spot for the enormous potential had, as well as the commercial success he had
@@Weedwaffles Lupe in the mid 2000s was one of the only young lyricists making it big and he was making it BIG. It was an era where guys like Crook and Ortiz and other young guys kept getting shelved because they weren't on their Akon/Nelly shit. Then Lupe comes up and flips the script. Lupe has 2 definitive classics and 2 albums that could be considered classics down the road. Chance only has one mixtape that COULD be a potential classic
@@nickmilewski1204 Exactly! People sleep on Lu's impact on the culture. He was one of the first rappers to get big on the internet, he was up on streetwear brands waaaaay before everyone on them now, he was on the skateboarding tip, and so much more. Dude made it possible for guys like Kendrick and Cole to be where they are today
Eminem hasn’t got worse wtf u mean?? He got lyrically better after he sobered up 😂 old Em was I good song writer “new” Em is just so lyrical u can’t comprehend his bars after listening to most rap from 2010-present
The Cliffton probably also MMLP2 & Revival not to mention ShadyXV. Also Tupac is easily #2 I love Pac obviously looking at my profile picture but most of his music & lyrics didn’t age well besides like 10 tracks from his over 100 tracks released he would probably be #1 if he didn’t have to beef with every nigga from the east coast screaming west side even tho he was a east coast nigga smh literally boosted and ended his career. BIG on the other hand maybe top 5 how can u put out less than 3 albums n even b in the convo who knows if he would of fell off or not you could fill a notebook of artists who fell off after ther 2nd album
Anthony G PAC wasn’t a way better Mc was than BIG smh don’t let ur love for Pac blind you to BIG skills,otherwise it’s just silly hate 20 years after the NY born legends deaths
As much as I love NAS, Biggie, Tupac and NWA, I personally, in all seriousness have to give it to Eminem Edit: after reading other comments, I also agree J Cole should be up there, he would be 3 or 4th in my opinion, after Eminem, Tupac and then maybe Biggie.
Big L was really good and better than Pac and Biggie lyrically but on this they were going with the rapper's impact on the hip hop culture as a whole like who was the most influential during their time in hip hop , Big L had influence no doubt but he didnt really establish his name like that all over the globe for everyone in every country to know him and his death played a role in that his career was cut short before he really got his name out out
I don't know why it always comes down to comparing Em with Tupac n Biggie with the body of work...Em definitely has had way more time than those 2 in the industry and he has seen the change in the rap game with these shitass new age rappers who can't even write 2 bars worth of sense...He has had to deal with a long career with all kinds of criticism and reviews and drug related issues and still has managed to be on the top for all his life ( many even mention him as the GOAT )...Tupac n Biggie were in thier prime and were in an era where rap was the most influential form of music and was taking over the world...I doubt if they lived long enough till the social media generation and would have faced so much opinions and criticism by others they would have been able to outperform Em....What if Em died after releasing Stan or The MMLP 1( thank God he didn't) but what If he did...I'm sure people would never have had an idea that he might be having a low in his career later on. In the end if it comes down to my opinion hes the GOAT for me cause I have never been amazed by anyone's music and especially the lyrics as this guy does....He's definitely the best lyricist on that list for me and some of his rhymes are way too complex for anyone to recite the way he does it.
@@AubreyOnfroy thats exactly what I meant ...surprisingly u didn't get it even after I wrote a longass comment....HOW DO U KNOW THAT PAC N BIGGIE WOULDNT HAVE HAD TRASH ALBUMS IN FUTURE IF THEY LIVED LONGER?
@@kanishkkashyap9283 i dont know but matter of the fact is eminem got a shit ton of garbage albums while big and pac dont. Mind you pac got more classics than eminem even with a cut short career
@@AubreyOnfroy this is all opinion at the end I feel...to be honest I'm not an American and especially not an African American so I might not be able to relate it in a way smone who is might....but even just so good talent is good at the end no matter how u look n for me what Em has been able to do with words no one can...stats and sales dont define it for me
Pioneers get their respect, but that doesn’t excuse them overall ability. Just because you invented something doesn’t mean it can’t be improved upon. Nor does it mean those who improved it are automatically inferior. The Wright brothers invented the first aeroplane, that doesn’t mean their designs are superior to the ppl at Boeing or Lockheed Martin.
This is why comparing rappers in a tournament braket format is not a very good way to determine the greatest rapper. It's just not an accurate way to make comparisons because they leave out so many that deserve to be in the conversation of whos the best. I think this video was just for fun and reflected more their own tastes and oppinions.
1-Wayne 2-eminem 3- kendrick 4-Pac 5-Jay-z 6-Nas 7- Drake 8-Outkast 9-Snoop 10- Biggie 11-DMX 12- Kanye 13-Rakim 14-NWA 15-50 cent 16-Game 17-Jcole 18-Rick Ross 19-Mobb deep 20- ti I put Biggie 10 just because he dont have enough material.
Everyone will argue about who the best is but pretty much everyone will agree that Eminem, Tupac and Biggie are all in there top 3 just in different order 😂
Kanye or Outkast. Tell me if any other artist can go up against college drop out, late registration, graduation, MBDTF, Pablo, Ye and Kids See Ghosts for Kanye or southernplayer, ATLiens, Aquemini and Stankonia for Outkast.
RedAlertSteve _ yeah, Em has a history of rhyming 5 syllables per line, for like 8 lines, all while telling an incredibly elaborate story or painting a wonderful mental picture. He cannot be contested in that regard.
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden Exactly what I'm saying. Plus it's not only that he can tell a story using massive rhyme schemes, but also that he incorporates multi-layered wordplay as well.
LVClay702 it's the truth. Biggie had the better flow, better bars, way better wordplay, more complex lyrics and I'd stay they are even on the storytelling. Now what makes Pac so great is he created his own sound and fit in there everything to make it perfect and his whole aesthetic was more appealing to the masses. When it comes to straight up rap Biggie is the king and there's no doubt about that. They are both equally influential in their own respective ways imo.
Eminem can rap fast Eminem can rap slow Eminem can rap anthems Eminem can rap love songs Eminem has top 3 cadence in Hip Hop Eminem has flawless delivery Eminem has never lost a rap beef Eminem had to fight through the white boy rapper stigma Eminem has can switch flow Eminem has longevity Eminem raps about mature topics Eminem raps comedy Eminem raps about his life Eminem influenced Hip Hop internationally Eminem sold more records than not any Hip Hop artist, but any artist period.
I was really worried I'd get triggered over their picks, but they kept it real. The whole Biggie Tupac Eminem thing is a matter of preference so I'mma give it to em for that
@@JD-hx7yd I don’t really like em’s style. I’m not saying he’s bad or anything it’s just Tupac was more versatile, had better lyrics and his songs always had a deeper meaning. But at the end of the day it all relies on preference
Biggie is amazing, but Eminem had way more influence on the game as well as creating a disgusting amount of new flows and punch lines that no one can match
I was mad he said jay z has been putting more stuff out and he was trying more.... with that logic how did biggie win, and tupac... i thought it was based on music alone not longevity...
he is not. he said as per popularity thats all. MC ???? hes not a POET. None of his raps are complexed. BASIC easy friendly RAPPER to listen to. NAS IS THE GREATEST MC. of all TIME. WAYYYYY TOOO LYRICAL AND REALER THAN BIGGIE. MORE STYLES AND DEEPER WRITER.
@@lilbatty STFU. TALK WITH FACTS. SAYING DUMB SHIT OUT YA MOUTH LMAOOOOOO. AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU. KENDRICK HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THIS GAME. HE IS JUST A BORING BORING BORING RAPPER THAT MAKES NO SENSE. HIS SHIT FOR CHURCH GOERS. LMAOOOO
Well influence wise i think eminem is the #1 rapper he brought a lot of white people into rap and brought rap onto a bigger stage. He carried the load biggie and pac left by himself Bar wise id say eminem also cause thats what makes eminem eminem his bars. Overall its a close one but i would personally say em
So we can put Drake and Chance on this list, but Rakim and J Cole aren't there?
Fun Fact Rakim and Cole are born on the same day
true
J.Cole barely puts out work.
@@joshuanashid7 So
@@joshuanashid7 How do you define "barely"? Cole averages 1 new project every other year, that's a normal output rate for most rappers. Few rappers drop every year, or multiple times a year and when they do, its usually not a good thing
chance being there is hilarious lmao
Not rly
yea I would put j.cole instead
Barcafan zeko123 ummmm it goes by region
Should have been Common up against Ye if they wanted to do a Chi-town matchup.... Bun would've had to think about it a lil more
Thomas Nelson Yh fr dunno what this is but hey 🤷🏾♂️
I just don't understand how can anyone put jay-z over nas...
This bracket blows in general
Urghhh!! Nas Stans are exhausting
mwla mmbi Shutyo ass up. I’m not crazy over nas but jay z is garbage in comparison
He basically chose him because he's put more out. Nas is iller.
Ether point blank period
Scarface is underated. With Geto Boys and his solo career he's been putting in work for 30+ years. He's a straight story teller. He gets my vote for the GOAT...
Pepper Gut The best stay true to the game
Face SHOULD'VE beat who was it ... Outkast???
He da Texas Goat fasho
He is absolutely the greatest rapper ever
Scarface doesn’t get the recognition he deserves, such a true lyricist og
How tf they put Drake on here and not Rakim?
Cuz rakim trash
KillerEagle0110 drake not even hiphop. hes pop and rnb and makes music for females
Drake the goat and he raps so gtfo 🤣
ASAP Reflex lil pump takes rakim’s ass anyday
Album sales
MY MAN SAID “YOU GO TO AN EMINEM SHOW THE CROWDS NOT SINGING THE WORDS” Boy get tf out of this conversation, grown men are speaking
Lmao exactly I was like Wtf this dude saying.
I mean, unless it's from 2004 and back, idgaf about anything he's put out.
Something Funny I mean sure but by that logic Biggie hasn’t put anything out since 1997
Something Funny whack ass argument. People now the shit to his newer records.
@@davidadams1298 yeah but Biggie still has more playback value to me. I'm not using that logic to say that's why Big is better, I'm just saying Em deteriorated. I do think Big is better though
It goes Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then Em.
Devin Gagliardo ppl sleep on tht bar
If ppl knew the reference this would be top comment lmao
Haha yuhh
Em would never agree to this
@@KeepOnCoding bruh em said this HIMSELF
Putting chance there was so disrespectful....
That nigga garbage
No disrespect but Chance shouldn't be in this convo whatsoever. Bone Thugs, Lupe, Common? Also 3 6 should've won over Luda and UGK over Scar
Most people in the comments don’t understand how they’re doing this. If you’re going to name people like that then the board would have to be 10x bigger. This is influence. People you just named are just memorable rappers.
i really shocked they didn't put Lupe on there, especially after his masterpiece, drogas waves was released and he was putting it down way before chance the rapper SMDH
@@Weedwaffles you wanna talk influence? 3 6 Mafia's style is stitched into the fabric of damn near every trap artist out today, not to mention they directly inpired Raider Klan and A$AP Mob which birthed every soundcloud rapper since 2011
Not no ugk over Scarface....face was definitely the man solo and with the geto boys....he truly doesn't get the respect he deserves and I never quite understood that....face is King of the south hands down
@@Weedwaffles other than maybe Outkast, ATL wouldn't have a sound without 3 6 and the other Memphis rappers
How the hell you gone have kendrick vs the whole dam NWA...lol
Cedric Taylor because Kendrick is just that cold...
Should've been nwa vs outkast groups
Cedric Taylor honestly NWA was more influential but you could argue that as a creative force and on pure rapping ability Kendrick is better than all of them
KalebC21 exactly why he was pitted against the entire group as one dude he’s got pretty much all their talent combined with the exception of Dre and yella only because they produce and Kendrick does not
He's doing this in a tournament bracket format and he's doing it north, south, east and west. Kendrick vs NWA just so happened to be in the same round.
Disrespectful to have Chance as an option.
Principal Skinner but not drake? 😂
@@Clawzuhfy and drake
drake’s the best rapper of all time no 🧢
@@kylebreslin27 best rapper? He ain't even best pop singer
Kyle Breslin hol up
Biggie Smalls is the illest!
Behind nas
@@Ace-ug2vw Behind Tupac
@@rare_ayk1659 Lyrically not really
@@rare_ayk1659 behind em
My favorite is em but I can't argue against a g.o.a.t like biggie
Sorry ima huge Biggie fan and I still think Tupac touched people's soul with his music. He made black men and women feel strong in times of despair.
Ever heard of a rapper named K Rino?
PAC 🚮🚮🚮
Where talkn from a hiphop point
DAILYGRIND but could he rap like biggie not even close
DAILYGRIND pac shouldn’t have even beaten OutKast. In no way musically was pac better than outkast.
You telling me Chance The Rapper on here but you guys don't have Common?
Love & Success Follows Me COMMON WOULD KILL CHANCE!!!👊👊👊
Love & Success Follows Me who’s common..
Bruh line of work
Yea
Exactly, highly suspect..
No Rakim: this is no list
Rakim can't hang lyrically with any of the people on this list
@@FidoeFTW gtfo
NoNameforNow how much did you get paid to say that
@@TheReal704Champ nah
@@nuknuknuk111 none, but you know I'm right. Just because Rakim was one of the first people who dropped a classic album doesn't automatically make him the best. His outdated lyrics were good for the time but they don't mean Jack in today's era
Bun B is a legend in so many ways. UGK have had a huge impact on the culture. Bun B has always been a student of the game, even as one of the O.Gs. If you love hip-hop, you have to have respect and admiration for Bun B.
Bone Thugs-n-harmony never get any RESPECT!
Yeah that's a Fact them guys could Spit I like them all, I thout Crazy Bone had a Nice 16 every rip tho
I'm saying tho
Exactly
@King Savage U crazy af
Three 6
DMX NOT BEING ON HERE IS A JOKE!!
GREAT LYRICIST. DROPPED 2 OF THE GREATEST RAP ALBUMS EVER!!
SOLD 18 MILLION IN HIS FIRST 18 MONTHS AS A MAINSTREAM M.C!!!
FIRST ARTIST OF ANY GENRE TO DEBUT WITH HIS FIRST 5 ALBUMS AT NO.1!!
THE DISRESPECT
Yusuf Abdullah he said from the start they was going off straight skills not accomplishments & sales
Kantrell Davenport Skills??
DMX is one of the rawest lyricists ever???
Do you know rap?
He's always been what I consider no.1
Yusuf Abdullah hy cole should have been on here to
@Scr8 Up Factz flesh of my flesh
Pac was a motivational speaker and a poet. THE GOAT.
And ballet dancer...fake ass thug
@@derekware2888 u lame
Pac= activist,legend,leader,content
@@bolor6539 bc ppl dont care that he was a poet and made deep songs all ppl care ab is if they spit but pac can do both
And ballet dancer...fake ass thug
@@derekware2888
So what if he was a baller dancer?
fake thug, ballet dancer, follower, sucker
How can u compare Tribe to Wu? Thats two different moods. They should of compared Mob deep to Wu.
And Naughty by Nature to ATCQ
Or maybe BT&H vs ATCQ
Yea I agree but i respect him choosing atcq over wutang
It doesn’t matter the moods it’s about influence and skill
I think they just chose more popular rappers/groups that they prefered to be in the tournament brackets. Doing a bracket format like this to compare rappers isn't very accurate because there are just too many greats out there to compare. I think this video was just for fun and more about their own tastes rather than over all greatest rapper of all time. To each their own tho right? Still interesting to see other people's perspectives
How the hell Chance on there ahead of Lupe or Common..?
Uncool Chuck it’s a popularity contest, for straight lyrics I don’t see how anyone from the North could have gotten past Vakill, but he ain’t popular so he wasn’t on this list.
With that said common > Kanye for sure.
And with that said, BDK > everyone on this list.
True
Twista anyone? Lol
facts, chance had one good album, acid rap, a common had several classic and 2 top 10 albums
Chief Keef 🤧
Rakim should have been on here
He'll yeah!!!!!! And LL. Can't believe he picked outkast over Wayne.
Yup
@@sliqvic yea outkast over wayne kinda shocked me. wayne is basically his own group. mixtape wayne alone should have made the final 4
Him in big L
king bean OutKast has like 3-4 classic albums. I love Wayne but he’s inconsistent in comparison.
Listen to 2pac's unreleased og material and it's impossible to not pick him as #1. It's not just California Love, Hit 'em Up and Dear Mama there's a lot more.
He's not even top 25 lol
@@zacbeleff1011 lmao go on any best rap diss songs and you find Hit Em Up by 2pac in Top 3. Every video.
Pac had like 800 songs & big had only what 50 songs?
@@sidohofman6835 any big track > any pac track tho.
Tupac is the greatest no doubt but honestly biggie is better
Why is Chance the rapper even on there?
annony mouse I like chance but yeah he shouldn’t be on there.
Also drake.
Yeaah , that's should be lil pump
I love Chance but I would’ve liked to see Bone Thugs representing the Midwest
Fajar Kuncoro I really hope you’re joking
Pac! 9 platinum albums, 713 songs, 7 posthumous albums, 7 movies... all by time he was 25. That's legendary
michael mars Eminem - 2 diamond albums, already beats Tupac even with 1 diamond album, not to burst your bubble
we really wouldn't even be able to tell because pac is dead and emninem is still alive who knows what pac could've did
Lil Wayne 7 platnium albums, 5,000+ songs, 1, 100+ features , 13albums, 25+ mixtapes, etc.
@@Beezy_420 yeah but it's hard to compare the two, when one died by the time he was 25 ( Pac). Can you imagine if we had another 15 years? Wayne was born in 82", and still going. He definitely is goat material, and had his time on top.
Shadowtheh fang ye I know but Tupac’s sales still count even if he is dead so people can still buy his albums and they still count but ye ur right he u never know but still Eminem is the record holder in terms of sales with only one gold (Revival) which still got 633,000 first week sales so
The hosts are talking way too much. Let Bun B talk. We don't care what the hosts say.
Jail Time Jake stfu jayjay u a punk
Jail Time Jake no shit right
5:45- 5:51 pissed me off so much
I don't even know who the fuck they are lmao
1_2pac 👑
2_Eminem
3_big
Tupac DEFINITELY tops them both...
@@waylandlewis5401 no
Nas better than all 3
Black thought,gza,pun ,big l
Pimp C would’ve definitely picked 2pac!😂
Exactly!
Who care ..pimp c sucked as a rapper
@@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589 he wasn't a rapper he was a singer. Foo
Yea Pimp dint play the politics game. Get off the Boo Boo Mane!
Fuck who ever talks shit about Pimp C
Bruh PAC is the reason why some people rap let's keep it a 100%
What?
Artisan Windchimes FUCK YOU MEAN WHAT? WHAT??!!
@@staceyjones1000 huh?
That is a metric for influence, not being the 'best'
Em is a reason people rap. Biggie is a reason people rap. Jay is a reason people rap. Wayne is a reason people rap. Where are you trying to get at?
Wait what? chance the rapper???? 😂😂 ya’ll just not serious
Adams Tetteh they was just doing two big rappers from Chicago
billy daimler Lupe? Common? Twista?
Chance is going down as bigger than anyone who isn’t Kanye at this moment
Its complex what you expect! Whole company is a joke
jparker-23 I wasn’t saying chance was the best or biggest Chicago rapper, but even still change is arguably more successful and popular than anyone else from Chicago, he’s had big songs that have charted probably made more money than anyone and is basically a house hold name
No matter how mad y’all get it’s always gonna come down to Tupac or biggie
Em better than both combined
@Slice Of Life 1985 facx
@@sabus1265 big facts
@@sabus1265 nah, Eminem ain’t even top 50
Andre and Scarface are better than big and pac
So you gon tell me chance and Mr.3-2 deserve to be here over Lupe, Cole, and Rakim?!?
Cole my favorite current rapper atm believe me, but hes still working I don't think cole has left his mark just yet, I think he hasn't impacted enough to be on here just yet, soon though
Definitely not Lupe, wtf
@@thealexshapiro j Cole has been in the game longer than chance, and has had a bigger impact in my opinion. I think the reason chance is on here is because of how he was well received by non-hip hop listeners last year
these rappers are not from the south kid
@@Alpha-bn6cj I know chance shouldn't be on here and I've been listening sense the come up, I feel ya but he just ain't there yet
Really Jay Z over NAS smh
Yea. More talented. Lets b honest. Nas had the better diss song tho. But overall hov is the dopest
Louis The13th Nas wrote illmatic (for me top 3 albums oat) when he was 19, how can we compare
Jay Z is NOT more talented than Nas.
Nas is 🔥
Irrefutable facts, merciful beautiful blacks
António Quintans I love Nas he’s my favorite rapper but one thing I can say is that Hov has a better body of work overall and has more classics under his belt.
Damn what about Rakim ;Big L ; Big Pun those are legends can’t forget about the Lox and DMX also.
Straight new york...all day
Big Pun one of the best from NY
Koop g rap
Bulljive . U about that mumble shit so STFU
Punk..
Pun > Eminem. I don’t care, I don’t give a fuck what anybody say.
When he got to Wayne Vs OutKast....
bruuuh that’s tough
Im still taking Wayne regardless , he still got more to offer to the game with many years to come.
Know-Ledge _Y.L.G. You stupid bruh. You must know who OutKast is
o Coachk We all know who outkast is, a rap group who's in fact also a rock/soul/pop group ... The same people who complain about Drake are the same people who idolize Outkast, bone thug, fugee, Ja Rule, Nelly ... Im not one of them, Outkast is a legendary rap group, its not because an artist make pop/r&b songs as well that he isnt a rapper ..
But for me Lil Wayne is way bigger, better and influencial. He is probably even the most influencial ever with pac .. And he is the king of punchline, word play and metaphore, he has many different flow and voices, his beats are always on point, he can rap on any beats and subject he is the most versatile. Lil wayne for me didnt receive the respect he should have, he is in my top 3 personaly.
I love outkast, but its wayne
Wayne easily by far lol
So chance is here but no j cole
Chance is trash compared to Cole Lmfao
neither are greats for hip-hop. nowadays the bar for being 'great' is so low you'd think he'seven a top 50 rapper. Where is bug pun and Big L?
it doesnt matter they had ChAnCE anyways (wink)
Don’t matter woulda lost to Kanye anyways
BART aren’t big pun and big l from the east coast?
It shouldn’t be groups up there in my opinion
Big was the better lyricist but Pac was a better overall artist and let’s not forget Pac help big get on
tryfelyn123 foh biggie > pac
milly loco Gaming everyone has an opinion and that’s urs
@@tryfelyn123 nah biggie>pac
@@elchucofried5683 nah pac over bigs
@@Milly_loco foh pac over bigs
“My Dark Twisted Fantasy Nightmare is one of the best albums of all time” okay if thats what you think at least get the name of the fucking album right sheesh
Tupac rhyme schemes are underrated as a lyricist ..his persona and controversy and his mainstream tracks overshadowed his skills and his penmanship so a lot of people actually sleep on him.
Find me a rapper who can make a classic double album in 2 weeks -all eyes on me
Better yet a classic album in 3 days( +4days to mix it) makaveli Killuminati 7day theory
And then 300+ unreleased songs to carry on a legacy while he’s dead.
Tupac really is the Goat
Tha_ Jet_King for real 💯💯‼️‼️🔥🔥‼️‼️ I agree ‼️
Biggie had 2 albums alive 20 + years and his jams are still knocking,and most on the list bit his style and use his songs as hooks.Remember during that time, he was writing for Kim, puffy,Jm.....
@ Only brainwashed folks think he is the Goat
Mikey C23 give me your Goat and I’ll show you how Pac was better
MrBiggz876 not to knock Biggie coz he’s dope but the east coast ran hiphop at the time biggie died ..so when he was called king of king York it was literally like calling him king of hiphop at the time ..which he really wasn’t. Pac was just more prolific than Big. He did more in 9months after being released from prison than biggie did in 2years. The only rapper to ever put in more work since pac died is possibly lil Wayne. Biggie was a rap icon ..pac is a cultural icon who has sold 3x times more records than biggie ..why?? Coz more people around the world felt pac’s music..why? Coz he’s just the better artist. Tupac is the most imitated rapper of all time even more after he died. Opinions aside ..we can put facts and stats together and pac comes out on top. no one has achieved what pac did in 5 years at 25 years old. Most anybody’s top 5 needed more time on their side. Even my favourite rappers like eminem and jay z needed more time and that’s what they had.
Where is Mobb deep and 50 cent?
50 cent changed the whole rap game
@@checkout2144 so were 4 other mentions dummy
@@checkout2144 ya but they were so your comment makes no sense lol
Noice mobb deep made one good song a dipped
@@limp8701 The Infamous possibly the greatest rap album of all time
Lurch The Infamous is the SHIT. I still bang that out at work almost daily offshore, everyone head boppin
Jay-Z one of the most overrated rappers I've ever seen in my life. To think a lot of people say he the GOAT too, it just mind boggles me.
THANK YOU
Agreed
THANKYOUUUU
Listen to the reasonable doubt album
break joey couldn’t disagree more
I always wondered how come Bun B & Eminem never worked together tho. I always wanted an Eminem & Bun B collaboration. Bun B is hella underrated as a lyricist & people sleep on him.
Nobody "underrates" Bun B.
Nas > Jay-Z
Tomás Morais nah
@@headshotgamers100 YESSSS
I mean Nas is the better Lyricist, I get that. But apart from that, what can you say against Jay-Z? He has an amazing flow, perfect beat selection, 3 classic albums imo, he is one of the best storytellers in the rap game, he is still making music on a high level, etc.
In my opinion they both suck
Ok to everyone who won the beef jay z or nas my point exactly nas the better rapper
Bracket is horrible... Y'all putting goats against goats in the first round...
That's how it should go... Did you expect 6ix9
ine Vs biggie?
I mean they’re looking at hall of fame for the greatest of all time fam...
@@relsidebr4785 bruh your comment 😂😂😂
I'm from NYC and Biggie will always be King here but I personally think 2Pac is the best...
NYC1E1 honestly big pun was a lot better than biggie so was nas
@@Excitegaming0 I love BPun & Nas but sadly in NYC it's Biggie & now Jay Z/50 cent. The funny thing is that 2pac was born in Harlem/NYC...
NYC1E1 he might be the most popular but no way is biggie better than nas or pun
NYC1E1 you da real MVP
Biggie a better rapper but pac was better overall... biggie really only king to ny cats everyone else those days knew pac ran shit
I like how underrated big pun and big L are also forgot a lot of people like AZ, rakim, LL, canibus, kool g rap, and more
Canibus? U must be from new york. Canibus was hard but not in the top 20. LL spanked him out the game lol
@@KompSavage I wish I was from NY so I can see this, that is subjective but LL I agree that diss was nice and I think if any disses / battles that "ended" canibus it would be that one and the battle with Diz NOT the corny em diss track, but canibus is still rapping till this day
Im with Komp! Canibus is dope but he’s not even in the 25 top best New York rappers!
Mf doom anyone?
These cats don't know at all .... His flow pattern can not be duplicated.
One of the best mcs
Yee boi
Logan Beardall ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MAN’S NAME
@@mrqh406 They probably know DOOM, its simply that they conversations usually only include mainstream rap. As far as "The GREATS" go, its diffucult to be in the GOAT conversation, when you're an underground artist like DOOM. MF, Pharoahe Monch, Talib Kweli, EL-P, Del and Masta Ace are all some of the best of all time though. Non-mainstream artists like Common and Black Thought also deserve to be in the conversation
I stopped watching when rakim wasn’t even in bracket
Matt Gray no MF doom either 🤔
Rakim was only good for his time. He's not a timeless artist
MF Doom and Rakim are both garbage, Lil Pump over both tbh.
And chance the fckn rapper is there wtf
ItsCautionTM 😂
I’m not even a minute in and I already know it’s gonna be the usual “Tupac vs Biggie” lmao
Simon Goulden those are just the best options
Both goats
Pac more influential
Biggie the best Mc ever
@@ruimicas2932 pac was more influential for people, id say big was more influential to rappers tho...the guy was already a legend when he was alive, with 1 album lol. he had his own lane that no one dared to cross. His flows, word plays, story telling (gimme the loot for example, fantastic song that tells a story) he was on another level...Pac was more of a peoples person, a poet imo. biggie was a pure rapper
@@DONSMOKEPAPI That’s funny too because Pac was the only one to ever cross Big E making a diss track about Big E that was really fire.
@@cowboys3221 many people dissed biggie, he just couldnt be bothered, biggie was the biggest thing back then, whilst other rappers were just rappers in a growing, but still kinda small rap game (compared to today, as today rap is the most popular genre). When i said no one crossed him, i meant no one claimed they were the king, or even if they did, they still accepted biggie was the only king of new york
The whole Pac was more influential than skilled narrative baffles me every time I hear it. His verse on Smile is a magnum opus of lyricism
Chance but no Lupe ? Wild disrespectful
Isaiah no Chief Keef?
Isaiah preach 💯
Isaiah Rhymefest
Common
Isaiah very disrespectful. Fuck this list
TUPAC🐐🐐🐐
Live From The 215 Wayne GOAT
Foh
Big Facts, Wayne Gita ctfu
*Goat
@King Savage will you keep quite
Outkast's influence stretched well beyond color barriers. Everyone loved Outkast and the culture shifted. Not to mention some of the dopest lyrics and anthems. Big Boi alone makes the list, andre obviously...c'mon
cpt kangaroo192 the south got something to say!
Agree
Agree
Wayne over outcast everyday
How many influential artists have come out of the south...endless talent.
Wayne is great but idk how you could ever say he's better as an artist or more influential.
Nas is your favourite rapper's favourite rapper 🔥🔥
U can’t pick Jay over Nas when Nas dropped the greatest diss track ever on Jay
When it comes to diss tracks em is the goat tho
Jay Z more consistent that Nas
Boi u need to listen to hit em up
Nas > Jay all day
@@powr4751 not really
People dont sing Em's rap songs cuz they cant follow when they go to his concert haha
What the fuck do u mean??
Lyell Murzello he’s saying that he raps too fast
@@lyellmurzello4031 Listen to any Eminem song and try to sing the lyrics. You won't succeed. You just can't follow it. The flow is out of this world and he also raps really fast sometimes.
I’ve been to his concerts and I know for a fact the crowd rap his songs
panoC97 I can do several, some and some parts are stupid hard but people can.
“My Dark Twisted Fantasy Nightmares” lmao he don’t even know the name of the album 😂
S Mac this video just made me so fucking mad
maybe the funniest ass ive eaten
He made me question the title if the album
Paras 😂😂😂
Bruh if he actually listens to Kanye he would have him in the top 4
eminems a better rapper than kanye, but kanyes a genius who changed the game like no other and produces all his music
True
Absolute truth, Kanye is genius
Kanye is a better producer then a rapper
Eminem is a great producer as well.
How tf Ludacris get there instead of T.I.?
Or Rick Ross
He's been around longer
He said Rick Ross 😂😂😂
Luda has a way bigger run then ti
Luda is better DUH
I hope Nas is watching this so he will put out more content 🤷♂️👌
Or better content...that last album was not it
Island Gaming I was just about to say that lol
@@islandgaming3230 that's what I've been hearing but they said the same about J Cole and it was 🔥🔥 plus folks listen to hip-hop for different reasons 🤷♂️ I'm a music head so I don't mind trap but I wanna hear content as well
@@nerdy_trucker7834 it's not terrible by any means bro it just has that stench of Kanye all over it plus it feels like an EP. And I know illmatic was only 9 songs but it was quality over quantity.
@@islandgaming3230 geez that sucks. He can drop a second project the same way Eminem did so long as it gets cleared 👌
"It goes Reggie, Jay z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from outkast , Jada , Kroupt , Nas and then me" - Eminem
Yeah but reggie and jay z aren’t better then pac he just listened it that way because it sounded better in the song
“But in this industry I'm the cause of a lot of envy,
So when I'm not put on this list this shit does not Offend me”
- Eminem
@@user-yi9hz3or2t they’re far better than pac.
@@jessebrown7158 not at all😭
@@user-yi9hz3or2t yes, yes they are. Pac was a mediocre rapper and a r*pist.
When he said you can go to any country around the world with Tupac shirt on and Tupac will be something in there, and thats a fact. At to where am from, Tupac get mad respect and love out here. He is so well known out here, there is people who love him and they don’t even listen to rap, just him and his personality.
Why they put groups on here
Pain$ faxx u cant say big trumped all the members of Tribe or compare one person to any group for that matter
Thats what the fuck I want to know Pain$
I'm a Pac fan over Biggie. But I can understand Big coming out on top. I always thought Big had better flow and cadence. BUT Pac's music had more substance and touched on more issues. Both G.O.A.T.'s. So sad we never got to see them receive any lifetime achievement awards. Could yall imagine what those speeches would have been like. #respect to both parties.
dubde87 fuck Tupac I piss on his grave every Sunday bitch nigga.
@@tykeishadoyouloveme4579 piss on me instead, like tf?
I'm from NYC and I totally agree...
Fuck you and you mama cause that bitch pushed yo punk azz out
Lyrically B.I.G. was better.. although Pac was a cold rapper.. underground funk pumpin outta my trunk one of my favorite rap lines
Jay z before Nas? Gtfoh
Hahaha i wrote the same fucking comment then i saw this
Yeah jay z isn't that great of a rapper
Jay-Z is still releasing amazing albums
No Big L, no Masta Ace, No Guru, No Rakim or KRS One or Kool G Rap or Big Daddy Kane, no MF DOOM, no Redman, no Kurupt, no Big Pun, no DMX..who the fuck wrote this list and left all them out but were like “yo Chance the Rapper and Drake GOTTA be on there” 🥴🥴🥴
Shameful on how you guy's don't have Big L or MF Doom
1 savage Big L is facts my dude. Jay Z picked up his style and ran with it.
Hell yeah the Devil's Son and the Villian of Hip Hop, Big L- "I got drug spots from New York to Canada, Cuz Big L be fuckin with mo keys than a Janitor" and DOOM- "There's four sides to every story, if these walls could talk, they'd probably still ignore me"
1 savage your comment is shameful. ALL CAPS WHEN YOU SPELL THE MANS NAME.
Big L Big Pun > biggie ....
Yeah big l is in my top 5 if he had the body of work he’d probably be undisputed king of NY
So chance is on here but no rakim 🤔
That what im saying not even Big Daddy Kane
Ya, this was a bullshit list to start off with.
Big L??(in fairness as great as he was he never got chance to get public recognition)
@Fish - Y Kool G Rap, Chino XL, Kool Keith, MC Ren
I like Big L but I think Rakim deserved to be on this list more.
@@thomasbuck303 yeah probably, Rakim was class.
I don’t care if someone is a casual fan of hip hop... everyone involved in the game should recognize Big L for the talent he was. He could rap circles around jay z and stand toe to toe with biggie, his life was cut shorter than both of them so he didn’t gain nearly as much notoriety. He definitely deserves a top 10 spot for the enormous potential had, as well as the commercial success he had
@@fourseamSeal I like biggie but, Big L is waaaaay better
Where tf is 50 cent and J Cole?
50 sucks and J. Cole is overrated.
@@morecowbell304 L
@@morecowbell304 L
@@morecowbell304 L
@@morecowbell304 L
It should have been Kanye vs Lupe
Chance is good but Lupe is levels ahead of him
lupehn not in term of influencing the culture no. This isn’t the best artist from skill. This is a all around thing.
@@Weedwaffles Lupe in the mid 2000s was one of the only young lyricists making it big and he was making it BIG. It was an era where guys like Crook and Ortiz and other young guys kept getting shelved because they weren't on their Akon/Nelly shit. Then Lupe comes up and flips the script. Lupe has 2 definitive classics and 2 albums that could be considered classics down the road. Chance only has one mixtape that COULD be a potential classic
Kanye don't write his shyt tho
lupehn Lu always gets snubbed.
@@nickmilewski1204 Exactly! People sleep on Lu's impact on the culture. He was one of the first rappers to get big on the internet, he was up on streetwear brands waaaaay before everyone on them now, he was on the skateboarding tip, and so much more. Dude made it possible for guys like Kendrick and Cole to be where they are today
Am I the only that noticed the Bobby Boucher waterboy jersey?
Nathan Prescott you’d have to be blind to not notice, so probably not ..
Cut it off as soon as Nas was not picked over Jay-Z
Jay z is better than Nas tbh.
I viewed it the same, but still watched the rest. The board was suspect to begin with in areas, but I wanted to hear him out.
Jay-Z won the beef between them even tho it's strictly not about who won the beef, but why would you pick the loser?
@@whhscougar
On what planet did this happen?
Benjamin Long who you talking to keyboard warrior
People really need to chill with the Tupac wasn’t lyrical stuff. Dude was the definition of lyrical
Octavius Bailey yeah just because a dude doesn’t spit multisyllabic shit doesn’t mean dude is lyrical.
His Argument for biggie v em didnt make sense.
@@humrof4693 exactly. Victory is what ultimately cost him the game. He was so good at first, and that success is soo hard to follow up.
Real EM fans know his rapping and lyrics have improved over time, but regardless Em's lyrics and flows highly outmatch Biggie
Eminem hasn’t got worse wtf u mean?? He got lyrically better after he sobered up 😂 old Em was I good song writer “new” Em is just so lyrical u can’t comprehend his bars after listening to most rap from 2010-present
The Cliffton probably also MMLP2 & Revival not to mention ShadyXV. Also Tupac is easily #2 I love Pac obviously looking at my profile picture but most of his music & lyrics didn’t age well besides like 10 tracks from his over 100 tracks released he would probably be #1 if he didn’t have to beef with every nigga from the east coast screaming west side even tho he was a east coast nigga smh literally boosted and ended his career. BIG on the other hand maybe top 5 how can u put out less than 3 albums n even b in the convo who knows if he would of fell off or not you could fill a notebook of artists who fell off after ther 2nd album
@@SNYDER- y'all stans gotta calm down
why am i not surprised its biggie vs tupac
Should be Biggie Vs Nas or Andre 3000. Tupac sucks
@@MLost-lx6mt your whole family sucks
Ikr
Pac’s lyrics were more influential than Big’s by far idk what Bun was thinking?? Dumbass southern nigga 🤦🏽♂️
Geo That’s ur opinion
2pac impacted the culture wayyyy more tf
Anthony G they were going off skills alone
Z6Soldier 2pac is a way better mc biggie was the destruction to our people Pac uplifted us!
FACTS
@@tiaunh2596 nah they was switching up, at some they said influence and then they say skill
Anthony G PAC wasn’t a way better Mc was than BIG smh don’t let ur love for Pac blind you to BIG skills,otherwise it’s just silly hate 20 years after the NY born legends deaths
As much as I love NAS, Biggie, Tupac and NWA, I personally, in all seriousness have to give it to Eminem
Edit: after reading other comments, I also agree J Cole should be up there, he would be 3 or 4th in my opinion, after Eminem, Tupac and then maybe Biggie.
Eminem is not top 5
Because you white
@@miquelcanosasanteularia1678 Rakim, BDK, Tupac, Biggie, Eminem. This is GOAT top 5, in no particular order.
Where is big pun? One of the best lyrical rappers of all time
THANK YOU!!!!!!! AND BIG L! THOSE DUDES NEVER GET LOVE
Agreed guys.Both top 10 in my opinion.
Big L was really good and better than Pac and Biggie lyrically but on this they were going with the rapper's impact on the hip hop culture as a whole like who was the most influential during their time in hip hop , Big L had influence no doubt but he didnt really establish his name like that all over the globe for everyone in every country to know him and his death played a role in that his career was cut short before he really got his name out out
@@StillAutomatic Facts!!!! but at least an honorable mention
@@vampirascoffin870 yeah he's for sure one of my top MCs he's over biggie definitely and made Jay Z sound like a kid in their freestyle together lbs
I don't know why it always comes down to comparing Em with Tupac n Biggie with the body of work...Em definitely has had way more time than those 2 in the industry and he has seen the change in the rap game with these shitass new age rappers who can't even write 2 bars worth of sense...He has had to deal with a long career with all kinds of criticism and reviews and drug related issues and still has managed to be on the top for all his life ( many even mention him as the GOAT )...Tupac n Biggie were in thier prime and were in an era where rap was the most influential form of music and was taking over the world...I doubt if they lived long enough till the social media generation and would have faced so much opinions and criticism by others they would have been able to outperform Em....What if Em died after releasing Stan or The MMLP 1( thank God he didn't) but what If he did...I'm sure people would never have had an idea that he might be having a low in his career later on.
In the end if it comes down to my opinion hes the GOAT for me cause I have never been amazed by anyone's music and especially the lyrics as this guy does....He's definitely the best lyricist on that list for me and some of his rhymes are way too complex for anyone to recite the way he does it.
Eminem also had a lot more time to tarnish his discography by dropping one trash album after another
@@AubreyOnfroy thats exactly what I meant ...surprisingly u didn't get it even after I wrote a longass comment....HOW DO U KNOW THAT PAC N BIGGIE WOULDNT HAVE HAD TRASH ALBUMS IN FUTURE IF THEY LIVED LONGER?
@@kanishkkashyap9283 i dont know but matter of the fact is eminem got a shit ton of garbage albums while big and pac dont. Mind you pac got more classics than eminem even with a cut short career
Eminem is GOAT for real... it just happened eminem is not black
@@AubreyOnfroy this is all opinion at the end I feel...to be honest I'm not an American and especially not an African American so I might not be able to relate it in a way smone who is might....but even just so good talent is good at the end no matter how u look n for me what Em has been able to do with words no one can...stats and sales dont define it for me
No way the list doesn’t include Rakim, KRS1 or KGR in the East....
No respect for the Pioneers funny crap should be ashamed of themselves
Pioneers get their respect, but that doesn’t excuse them overall ability. Just because you invented something doesn’t mean it can’t be improved upon. Nor does it mean those who improved it are automatically inferior. The Wright brothers invented the first aeroplane, that doesn’t mean their designs are superior to the ppl at Boeing or Lockheed Martin.
Honestly Rakim should have been there. Rakim is NASTY on the mic.
rakims a man amongst boys on the mic a true poet
This is why comparing rappers in a tournament braket format is not a very good way to determine the greatest rapper. It's just not an accurate way to make comparisons because they leave out so many that deserve to be in the conversation of whos the best. I think this video was just for fun and reflected more their own tastes and oppinions.
1 Em
2 Biggie
3 Pac
4 Wayne
5 Kendrick
6 Jay Z
7 Outkast
8 Nas
9 Rakim
10 Ghostface Killa/Scaface
1-Wayne
2-eminem
3- kendrick
4-Pac
5-Jay-z
6-Nas
7- Drake
8-Outkast
9-Snoop
10- Biggie
11-DMX
12- Kanye
13-Rakim
14-NWA
15-50 cent
16-Game
17-Jcole
18-Rick Ross
19-Mobb deep
20- ti
I put Biggie 10 just because he dont have enough material.
🤣🤣🤣
Everyone will argue about who the best is but pretty much everyone will agree that Eminem, Tupac and Biggie are all in there top 3 just in different order 😂
Fluffy Beast 1.Pac 2.Biggie 3.Jay 4.Em 5.Wayne
The Champ if you think jay is better then em then you’re delusional
1.em 2.tupac 3.lilwayne 4.hopsin 5.biggie
Mmmm naw. Yall go ahead with all that im more of the trips to florida order the oraderva and yalls favorite rappers favorite rappers
@@dubla321 wtf???
Nas is better than J. but they say just because he have more money
Nas is better than everyone .he is a pioneer right beside big daddy Kane and rakim
Nas put is heart and soul into his music....I don't feel that from big's music.
I was not expecting Bun B to sound so proper lol
I think I saw in a documentary Pimp C talking about how Bun B had always been like really smart and used to like help him with his homework.
bun b is a Hip Hop lecturer at a University now lol
Kanye or Outkast. Tell me if any other artist can go up against college drop out, late registration, graduation, MBDTF, Pablo, Ye and Kids See Ghosts for Kanye or southernplayer, ATLiens, Aquemini and Stankonia for Outkast.
Eminem>
@@DJ-qe6lp racist
This vid should be called,"Bun B picks best corporate Hip Hop artist of all time."
Stfu and go listen to immortal technique you fucking bozo
jhskasgs
Ok,Gucci Gang.
The real debate is Em vs Biggie in the terms of lyrical talent. Both extremely talented. IMO I can’t decide who’s better.
Lyrics isn't even close, Em destroys him. Biggie's strength is his flow and he likely beats Eminem in that
RedAlertSteve _ yeah, Em has a history of rhyming 5 syllables per line, for like 8 lines, all while telling an incredibly elaborate story or painting a wonderful mental picture. He cannot be contested in that regard.
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden Exactly what I'm saying. Plus it's not only that he can tell a story using massive rhyme schemes, but also that he incorporates multi-layered wordplay as well.
AK- JORDY-7 yes, one who has spent many hours listening to Em can attest to the significance of the point you just made.
RedAlertSteve _ jay z is more lyrical than Eminem
Tupac had a sensible lyrics than biggie imho. If you ask me? Biggie is the best rapper but tupac is the greatest rapper of all time.
Juan Masday Hell no. Big runs circles around pac all day
Carlito Brigante what?
Carlito Brigante bruh biggie couldn’t even run across the street lol
LVClay702 hahaha he's high asf dont mind him!
LVClay702 it's the truth. Biggie had the better flow, better bars, way better wordplay, more complex lyrics and I'd stay they are even on the storytelling. Now what makes Pac so great is he created his own sound and fit in there everything to make it perfect and his whole aesthetic was more appealing to the masses. When it comes to straight up rap Biggie is the king and there's no doubt about that. They are both equally influential in their own respective ways imo.
Eminem can rap fast
Eminem can rap slow
Eminem can rap anthems
Eminem can rap love songs
Eminem has top 3 cadence in Hip Hop
Eminem has flawless delivery
Eminem has never lost a rap beef
Eminem had to fight through the white boy rapper stigma
Eminem has can switch flow
Eminem has longevity
Eminem raps about mature topics
Eminem raps comedy
Eminem raps about his life
Eminem influenced Hip Hop internationally
Eminem sold more records than not any Hip Hop artist, but any artist period.
Eminem is the GOAT
And yet Kendrick and OutKast’s discography put his to shame
PAC influenced Hip hop internationally and is the GOAT .
And that still doesn't make him the GOAT.
@@Shoegaze- Eminem puts shame to both of their career's combined
I was really worried I'd get triggered over their picks, but they kept it real. The whole Biggie Tupac Eminem thing is a matter of preference so I'mma give it to em for that
Ben Montgomery have to disagree
@@Machiavelli-828
Why's that?
@@JD-hx7yd I don’t really like em’s style. I’m not saying he’s bad or anything it’s just Tupac was more versatile, had better lyrics and his songs always had a deeper meaning. But at the end of the day it all relies on preference
@@Machiavelli-828
So how do you disagree with the original statement then?
@@JD-hx7yd he said he prefers Eminem
The only argument on the whole list is really eminem vs. Biggie. So your top 3 of all time are pretty well set in stone
Trent Simmons not an argument biggie wins easily Eminem is the original mumble rapper
Biggie is amazing, but Eminem had way more influence on the game as well as creating a disgusting amount of new flows and punch lines that no one can match
Trent Simmons nah nas vs Eminem would be the best argument
id pick kendrick
Trent Simmons nas an pac belong in there to because there talking about entire catalog of work
By the logic of why he chose biggie over jay z and Eminem, sugarhill gang should be the greatest
Yandhi he knows it supposed to be Em and Pac, he just acting up.
I was mad he said jay z has been putting more stuff out and he was trying more.... with that logic how did biggie win, and tupac... i thought it was based on music alone not longevity...
Agreed they were the first
@@richardfreimund3426 sugar hill gang were not the first rappers
Biggie is the greatest MC of all time, I've always felt that way, I'm amazed bun feels the same way.
he is not. he said as per popularity thats all. MC ???? hes not a POET. None of his raps are complexed. BASIC easy friendly RAPPER to listen to. NAS IS THE GREATEST MC. of all TIME. WAYYYYY TOOO LYRICAL AND REALER THAN BIGGIE. MORE STYLES AND DEEPER WRITER.
@@newyorktimes21 no kendrick is better
@@lilbatty lmaooooooo YA WISH. DUDE RAPS LIKE HE IS READING A BOOK. WHERE THE FUCK IS HE AT NOW????? 1 FLOW GENERIC RAPPER.
@@lilbatty STFU. TALK WITH FACTS. SAYING DUMB SHIT OUT YA MOUTH LMAOOOOOO. AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU. KENDRICK HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THIS GAME. HE IS JUST A BORING BORING BORING RAPPER THAT MAKES NO SENSE. HIS SHIT FOR CHURCH GOERS. LMAOOOO
@@newyorktimes21 1 flow? have you even heard to pimp a butterfly? lmfao
Shouldve included T.I for the South Side
Nah it's either 2pac vs eminem
Eminem vs biggie. 2pac overrated asf no cap.
Shay Haria if you watched the video it has to be eminem and Tupac lol smh
@@swaglundygaming3048 ahahha 😂😂 true. But just in general i would say biggie and em
Shay Haria in general biggie Nd eminem yes
Well influence wise i think eminem is the #1 rapper he brought a lot of white people into rap and brought rap onto a bigger stage. He carried the load biggie and pac left by himself
Bar wise id say eminem also cause thats what makes eminem eminem his bars. Overall its a close one but i would personally say em
2 Pac should've won hands down💯
Shawn Steed hell no he could barly rap
Sorry but he's *OVERRATED*
I agree
Shawn Steed yes
Pac's influence on the hip hop culture is cemented in history .. But as the OG bun said.Pac wasn't the best rapper.
Biggie is the best rapper ever. Thank you Bun
Rip Big and Pimp C