I have and use network mode on my 1999 pioneer premier DEX-P1R... works awesome. I even did the same style system (without the time alignment) back in 1992 with my pioneer premier kex-m900 and Sony xec 1000 using 4 ppi amps and all kicker components.
As usual, great video guys. I want to bi-amp my components and this video has pretty much made up my mind. My system sounds very good(to me) now but I'm thinking there's still room for improvement with a completely active network. Anyway, thanks for your time and keep up the great work.
Always follow your review on car HU. Good job. Keep it going. When u guys have times do some other HU review would love to see how pioneer and kenwood different from others.
Pioneer DEH-P8400 BH When playing music through the Apple Music app on my iPhone it goes to into pause mode. What’s the fix? Also does this head unit have a factory reset? Thanks for any advice
Well, I'm sure this will be a question for you. With this radio and under navigation. I have a spot selected now. I want to get rid of that spot and it keeps constantly popping up from my radio. How do I get rid of that navigation, Thanks
Is the inability to get to the Network or Standed mode common? Using the menu Restore, thr little reset button on the side. Even disconnecting the battery. Northing gets me to the needed page. Pioneer suggested I send it in. Really dont want to do that. Any thoughts?
Thanks explained alot so I’m planning on using tweeters on deck power but my question is would I still need bass blocker on them and I understand that it’s only 2 front channels for tweeters would I be able to run 4 tweeters at 8ohms each basically 2 tweeters per front channel for a 4 ohm load each front channel ?
Let's see if I can help people understand this. I have 4 tweeters, 4 midrange 6.5's and 2 subwoofer 12s On the back of your radio you have Front= highs Rear= mids Sub= subwoofer On a 4 channel amp you have a side B and a side A Run rca plugs from the front output Jack's on radio to side A on the amp. This is what you wire your tweeters to. Wire your front and rear driver side tweeters in parallel to 1 channel on side A on amp. Wire the passenger side front and rear tweeters in parallel to the 2nd channel on side A. Now all your tweeters are wired to the highs output in network mode. Run rca plugs from the rear output on radio to side B on amp. Wire the front and rear driver side midrange speakers in parallel to 1 channel on side B to amp. Wire the passenger side front and rear midrange speakers in parallel to the 2nd channel on side B. Now all midrange speakers are wired to the midrange output in network mode. Now just run your rca outputs from the subs output to your sub amp. Now you can control and adjust your highs, mids and sub completely separate from each other.
Is the pre out voltage constant 4V regardless of the volume setting on all pre outs? Are the Subwoofer Level pre outs a constant 4V as well? Or does the voltage drop when set to -24/0/10? On page 44 of the manual it doesn’t get specific just says to select the setting no mention of voltage. Thanks, Happy New Year
Front RCA to tweeter, and rear RCA to mid? I believe is it the same with the speaker wire? Now has the RMS changed? and with the sub I just hook it up traditionally to a monoblock?
The are right. Front RCA and white/grays are tweeters, Rear RCA and green/purple are midrange. The power is the same and the Bluetooth phone calls come though the rear outputs. The sub is normal
I have infinity kappas front with tweeters and there hooked up to cross overs that came with them and rear infinity speakers, also fronts are hooked up to amp and so are rears 4 channel only using rca not wired from head unit and a sub on separate amp. I'm confused should I be using network mode or standard mode what would work better for me? please let me know asap thanks, in network the rear speakers seem louder than the fronts
holy crap {group hug} lol I guess I should have read the manual with radio bcuz I was wondering how the crossover knows how to run signal to appropriate locations when using external amps but ahhh yur last vid explained it all ..... front rca -tweeters rear rca - mids and sub well duh but daaaannnng i have been racking my brain on how to wire multiple mids n highs and amps bought individually (without passive crossover and or filters) but thank goodness u made this vid thanks again!!!!
I have the pioneer avh-5800bhs and I'm trying to do the Auto EQ Time Alignment Measurent with the pioneer microphone & when I go to the screen to go do the measurement the screen doesn't fold down to put the mic in? what can be the problem?
i didnt understand 25:20 . do they say i have to reduce my subwoofers amp gain in order get arround clipping ? i have my amp at gain 12 o clock, because i like a strond bass at low sounds.
Hi. I have a E90 3 series with aftermarket speakers. So currently, I have a component set at the front with passive crossovers for the doors and tweeters. There are a pair of midbass drivers under the front seats. I’ve removed the rear speakers and have a sub in the trunk. The headunit is a pioneer sphda120. The speakers are connected to a 4 channel amp and the sub is connected to mono amp. At present the unit is in standard mode. I wanted to ask if I could change to network mode with the existing speakers so that the fronts are high passed at roughly 1.5khz the tweeters would be taken care of by the passive crossovers. The midbass under the seats would be bandpassed between 80hz to 1.5khz and the subs low passed at 80, all at a 12db slope. Is that possible? Thanks.
Awesome video but I have a question if anyone can answer. Im currently using have a 4 channel set up but if i switch to this network mode and hook up my fronts tweter and mid individually to each with out the crossover won't I get reduced output from the amp since each speaker individually is a higher ohms rating??? Please help
Installing a Pioneer AVH-x5800bhs with 4-channel in 4 door components, and a sub powered by a 5 channel soundstream PN5.640d amp. Should I use std or network? I would like to eliminate the passive crossovers.
You will want to go standard. To do network mode you would have to run all the tweeters off channels 1-2 and all the mids off 3-4. Since the speakers are in the front and rear you will not be able to use the time corrections.
Hey guys, now that I am using a dsp do I want my Pioneer head unit in network or standard mode? I notice they sound completely different. I still have tweets mids and sub. Thanks!
How good is the internal deck amp? Would it run a component like those Pioneer you show on this video? I'm planning on using it for a network mode and add an amplifier just for a 10" subwoofer.
I have front and rear 2-way components, and I'm wondering if I'll get better sound quality running network mode with the 4 tweeters on channel 1-2, the 4 mids on channel 3-4. and a sub. Or if I'd get better sound in standard mode using the passive crossovers. I also considered network mode using my external amps for the front tweeter & mid, and the head unit internal amps for the rear tweeter & mid. I understand I won't have any separation between for front and rear, but would it sound better?
Russell Seward we have toyed with this idea also. In the end we do Standard mode so we can use the time correction. That does more for us and sounds better we feel.
Hey guys, is there a limit to two speakers per output in network mode? reason I ask is I'm running components on all four doors and was wondering if I could run all four tweeters on one output, all four mids one other output and sub as usual? thanks and keep up the good work enjoy watching the videos.
ok thanks I forgot to mention they're on a 4ch amp. I don't currently use the time correction on my kenwood, so I most likely won't know what I'm missing lol
Great vids. I have the 1700s,why is there no adjustment on the rear speakers when on the speaker level page? My rears are playing louder than my front and powered by HU. I have the rear channel selected and it takes away the fader mode also.
I have the network mode selected because I have a powered sub running on sub rca. I'm using the 4 HU channels to power my doors. Should I keep it in network mode then?
I just bought the 80prs and like many others, am new to this "network mode" thing. I have a 2 channel amp powering coaxial speakers up front and a mono amp powering a single subwoofer. Which mode should I run? Also, when I upgrade to component speakers up front should I switch over to network mode or stay in standard? Thanks in advance.
For now you would do standard mode. If when you get your new speakers you up grade to a 4 channel amp to power them switch to network mode. You can run the tweeters on channels 1-2 and the midrange on channels 3-4. You can use the radios active crossover in the network mode and not use the passive ones they come with.
Hi there, I've been watching your videos and researching but can't figure this out. I'm building a setup in my 2 seater which means I have a set of components and a sub (3 way) now I'm looking at getting this unit DEH-X8800BHS which has network mode. My question is how will I be wiring this to the amp? Using the GM-D8604 I will use 2 channels bridged to give my sub 300 rms which leaves me with 2 channels pushing 100 rms each 4ohm. The components I use are the TS-D1730C which require 60 rms. I'll be turning the gain down as I'm pushing almost double what the speakers need. Now in network mode you say that one channel is tweeters and one channel is speakers, at 100rms per channel is sounds like overkill for tweeters?
Nik Ponomarov you will need a 5 channel amp to do Network mode. You need a channel for tweeters ( front outputs) mid range ( rear outputs) and sub woofer
First off of like to thank you. Your videos are very informative. I have a question concerning my pioneer AVH 3800bhs. I was reading the instructions (crazy, right?!) and I noticed it said if you use the RCA's for amplifiers the regular wiring to the speakers turns off. Is this true? For example. I have (4) 6.5's I'd like to run with one if my amps. I also have (4) 3.5's that due to their lower power requirements I wanted to run off the 3800. But from what I'm understanding I can't do that? I have to run all 8 of the mids and highs off my amp? Thank you!
Page 55 in the manual that came with my 3800. It's the section called "Connection". It's the third thing mentioned. Right under "Without internal amp". It says "important" "Tye speaker leads are not used when this connection is in use". So I took that to mean either they become inoperable by way of the HU sensing the RCA's are being used or that you shouldn't do it. But I obviously am misinterpreting it wrong if you guys do it with success. Thanks a lot for the quick response!!
Actually you could (if you have a component set) do network mode with 4 CH. All you need is a RCA splitter. at 18:12 I think you are talking about sound stage.
+Five Star Car Stereo Right, in my SQ build I might not even put in rear speakers though. I am going to run it active through the Alpine PDX-V9. With a Pioneer AVH-4000NEX in Network Mode. I don't really want to buy another amp for rear speakers. I might get them (some cheaper ones, I am going to get the Polk Audio MM6015) for when I would have passengers. You would still get time correct on the front speakers though. Just it would be the same correction that is on the rear speakers. Yes, the initial level would be set from the amp. Though I would still use the headunit for tweaking and crossover.
+Joshua's Recordings the 4000 does not have network mode, none of the NEX radios do. It is only available on the 5800/5700 and below. The pdx v9 has it but no time correction.
+Five Star Car Stereo Why doesn't Pioneer's flagship radios have network mode? Shoot - I'll have to get the AVH-5800BHS then. Darn I really wanted that SD card reader and dual USB ports (can't have everything I guess). THANK YOU - would be so annoyed to find that no network mode if I bought the unit!
+Joshua's Recordings yes this has been a sore point for me and them. The 5800 is a great radio just don't plan on doing any maps or apps or anything like that, just great audio.
Hey guys good info, great stuff and keep it up.. I have a question on the crossover settings. So I got a Pioneer 80prs and I am planning on going 3 way active (tweeterless), so I am gonna be running a dayton audio mid range with a Focal K2 mid bass powered by a mosconi 100.4 and a Rockford T1 running of a Ipaul mono, what crossover points would be ideal for a tweeterless setup? I am looking at getting the vocals out from the dayton all the way up.. Cheers!
In network mode the prs80 on the tweeter channel will only play down to 1.25khz. That may be kind of high for a mid. In standard mode it will play lower, 200hz but that to low. The 1.25 area is probably going to be your best bet. I like to use the numbers as a starting point but let my ears do the rest. A little goes a long way in sound. Play one set of speakers at a time to check for distortion. When you think you have the right settings play them together and make final adjustments. Leave the sub turned off until last.
I tried my avh 2700bs in both standard and network mode. it seems to sound better in network mode, but i want my passengers to hear the music in the rear. when in network mode, I'm assuming it just pretty much shuts off the rear speakers, and let's me have full control of the front mids and tweeters. can I control the crossover points of the front AND rear tweeters and mids from the deck like it allows in network mode, but still use the rear speakers like in standard mode? Does network mode inherently sound better because of more crossover control? can i make standard mode sound as good as network mode? is it just in my head that it sounds better? using the stock speakers in a 2002 bmw 540i. powered sub enclosure, 45 watt Alpine mini amp...
It maybe in your head, some people feel like they have to use Network mode. Like if they don't use this feature they are missing out on something. Unfortunately there is no rear output at all in this mode. You can however connect the rear speakers and front speakers together. Connect front and rear tweeter together and do the same for the midrange. You will get the crossover just you can't use time correction.
Need some serious help. I have a 2012 R/T Durango with a 730N. radio and I purchased a Pioneer 4200NEX with the PAC4-11 how do I wire the factory back up camera from the existing wires that are in a white plug from the factory. Please help Mike
Ok. So say Im running a 5 channel amplifier with all 5 channels. Fronts, rears and sub. If I use this headunit in network mode to control the front components and my sub. Would I still get signal and sound through my rears?
You will get no sound in the rear. In network mode there is no rear fill at all. The 5 channel amp would run tweeters on channel 1-2, midrange on channels 3-4, and subwoofer on channel 5. If you want front/ rear run in standard
Hey I just install the avh-x8700bt/ 4100nex , i have restored it but can't get the network mode, and also I don't have the extra woofer settings like what I see in this video, like bass boast. I have no bass in the car. I use to have heavy bass when I was using my andriod head unit. What can I do to get some bass with the avh-x8700bt.
What mode would you use if you were using only an amp, mid range speakers ONLY IN THE FRONT and tweeters ONLY IN THE FRONT, WITHOUT using a subwoofer? That is no sub and no rear speakers.
+Tigermac13 you can use network mode for the install if it is a 4 channel amp. Fronts on tweeters and rear on midrange. If it is a 2 channel amp do standard mode. This will have no effect on the camera.
+Five Star Car Stereo Hey guys I also have a quick question to ask about answering phone calls via bluetooth. If I plug in a USB stick/drive into the deck to play my music, can I still answer phone calls over bluetooth or any other way through the deck? Or does the music have to play from my phone (iphone) to be able to answer phone calls over bluetooth etc?
Shaun Geyen sadly no, non of them have it. Kenwood didn't even put it in there higher ended radios. As for 2017 the new AVH models will be out the end of November. The AVIC February or March
Bluetooth audio will always be a little low in terms of sound and quality compared with others sources (USB, Disc). Did you try to raise the source level from the bluetooth mode itself?
Why does Pioneer call it network mode instead of Internal 3 ch DSP??? Why confuse the standard terms? You guys should clarify it as such and explain the difference if any, and then proceed. thanks!
Sorry, Pioneer has been using that term for a long time. It goes back to the single din PRS radios with the same features. I personally think it is a confusing name too.
If I have a preamp equalizer between my head unit (avh-2400nex) and my amp should I run it network mode? Since there are only two rca inputs in the equalizer?
Five Star Car Stereo Why not? Front and rears can be tied to midrange (bandpass) out feeding into a 4 channel amp. Tie tweeters into a 2 ch amp fed from high pass, and then sub gets the amp fed from low pass output. On all amps, disable filtering. BAM!
I have a avh 4800bs once I turn the volume up to a certain point the whole unit cuts itself completely off and powers back on without losing any memory. And I've come to notice that it's cutoff point is different depending on which song is play at the time. Some levels are higher than others. Is there a reason for this?
+Rodney Zackery if you are using deck power it may be a low ohm load on the amplifier. Try fading it to the front or rear and see if it still does it. Make sure you are using 4 ohm speakers or the a speaker is not bad
Thanks for the quick response, I had watched one of your other videos earlier and went and made some adjustments in my settings and learned that some of my settings were set too high and was playing mostly in front. So I even the levels out and now sounds a whole lot better and I can turn volume up without it cutting off. I have brand new Kicker door speakers I previously had installed not more than a week ago so I figured it wasn't those.
Hi! how does it effect the 4 chennel amp in and output if I split the rear 2 pre out to 4 pre out as far as the voltage, watt or sound quality on avh 4200nex?
Set to network mode but since the front pre out are for high only I need to share the rear pre out for the mid to feed my front door mid. or should you suggest differently? Thanks, you guys are great!
Does this specific pioneer not have auto eq that uses the mic? If it did, would you just use that to set everything up? I know the NEX pioneers do have it and I feel like I am going to be relying on that feature way too much lol
Yes these radios have the auto EQ feature and it works great. We use it all the time to get us real close. We usually just tweak it a little bit afterwards. Then we save the settings so we do not have to do it again.
The AVH radios are navigation ready. Pioneer makes an Add on navigation for those radios. If you get the AVIC u280, it will give you built in navigation to your radio. Unfortunately none of the flip outs have XM capabilities, you can download the app to your phone and stream it to your radio over Bluetooth.
what to do if my Pionner SMART Sync settings dont save? I press SAVE SETTINGS, and always when turn off car, and headunit. And turn on the Smart Sync settings are back to default, + the Load Setting is greyed out??? im doing smth wrong?
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I have and use network mode on my 1999 pioneer premier DEX-P1R... works awesome. I even did the same style system (without the time alignment) back in 1992 with my pioneer premier kex-m900 and Sony xec 1000 using 4 ppi amps and all kicker components.
One of the best audio video ever, thanks
This was very helpful an there's always something to learn stay loud an have a nice day chow
As usual, great video guys. I want to bi-amp my components and this video has pretty much made up my mind. My system sounds very good(to me) now but I'm thinking there's still room for improvement with a completely active network. Anyway, thanks for your time and keep up the great work.
Always follow your review on car HU. Good job. Keep it going. When u guys have times do some other HU review would love to see how pioneer and kenwood different from others.
Thanks, we are planning that so stay tuned.
Pioneer DEH-P8400 BH
When playing music through the Apple Music app on my iPhone it goes to into pause mode. What’s the fix? Also does this head unit have a factory reset?
Thanks for any advice
So if I'm running rear speakers plus front speakers in doors and tweet In dash what mode would be best?
u guys saved my life lol had my in network mode so rear speakers were not working standard mode bam fixed ty so much
Cool glad we could help. Enjoy
+Five Star Car Stereo back in the day match wires turn stereo on set sub done
+yepyep yeah, I remember.
best video on youtube.. THANK YOU
newls1 thank you, that was really of you to say
what I don't understand is in network mode for a 100 watt channel do i use a 50 watt tweeter or a 100 watt tweeter?
It depends on the amp! 100/2 amp, 100 watt Twitter! If you use hu power amp, use 50 watt! I have it set up with hu power, only sub has amp!
Well, I'm sure this will be a question for you. With this radio and under navigation. I have a spot selected now. I want to get rid of that spot and it keeps constantly popping up from my radio. How do I get rid of that navigation, Thanks
how does network mode effect the receivers dual zone capabilities? (in the 4200NEX for example)
Russell Seward the NEX models do not have Network mode. Only the regular AVH-x model do.
Which double den pioneer units or any other brand still have this network mode left right mid tweeter front stage only I’m dying to set one up
Is the inability to get to the Network or Standed mode common? Using the menu Restore, thr little reset button on the side. Even disconnecting the battery. Northing gets me to the needed page. Pioneer suggested I send it in. Really dont want to do that. Any thoughts?
Thanks explained alot so I’m planning on using tweeters on deck power but my question is would I still need bass blocker on them and I understand that it’s only 2 front channels for tweeters would I be able to run 4 tweeters at 8ohms each basically 2 tweeters per front channel for a 4 ohm load each front channel ?
always enjoy the videos guys.. Thanks!!
+Jake Bradford thank you
Thank you for the this, extremely useful
Let's see if I can help people understand this. I have 4 tweeters, 4 midrange 6.5's and 2 subwoofer 12s
On the back of your radio you have
Front= highs
Rear= mids
Sub= subwoofer
On a 4 channel amp you have a side B and a side A
Run rca plugs from the front output Jack's on radio to side A on the amp. This is what you wire your tweeters to. Wire your front and rear driver side tweeters in parallel to 1 channel on side A on amp. Wire the passenger side front and rear tweeters in parallel to the 2nd channel on side A. Now all your tweeters are wired to the highs output in network mode.
Run rca plugs from the rear output on radio to side B on amp. Wire the front and rear driver side midrange speakers in parallel to 1 channel on side B to amp. Wire the passenger side front and rear midrange speakers in parallel to the 2nd channel on side B. Now all midrange speakers are wired to the midrange output in network mode. Now just run your rca outputs from the subs output to your sub amp.
Now you can control and adjust your highs, mids and sub completely separate from each other.
Is the pre out voltage constant 4V regardless of the volume setting on all pre outs? Are the Subwoofer Level pre outs a constant 4V as well? Or does the voltage drop when set to -24/0/10? On page 44 of the manual it doesn’t get specific just says to select the setting no mention of voltage. Thanks, Happy New Year
Front RCA to tweeter, and rear RCA to mid? I believe is it the same with the speaker wire? Now has the RMS changed? and with the sub I just hook it up traditionally to a monoblock?
The are right. Front RCA and white/grays are tweeters, Rear RCA and green/purple are midrange. The power is the same and the Bluetooth phone calls come though the rear outputs. The sub is normal
I have infinity kappas front with tweeters and there hooked up to cross overs that came with them and rear infinity speakers, also fronts are hooked up to amp and so are rears 4 channel only using rca not wired from head unit and a sub on separate amp. I'm confused should I be using network mode or standard mode what would work better for me? please let me know asap thanks, in network the rear speakers seem louder than the fronts
You want to use standard mode.
Thankyou
Can you use network mode to run tweeters off the head unit while using the amp pre outs with amps for the regular sized speakers?
In network mode do you need to run three separate amps for highs,mids,and lows. Or can you just run one amp for bass and one for highs and mids?
holy crap {group hug} lol I guess I should have read the manual with radio bcuz I was wondering how the crossover knows how to run signal to appropriate locations when using external amps but ahhh yur last vid explained it all ..... front rca -tweeters rear rca - mids and sub well duh but daaaannnng i have been racking my brain on how to wire multiple mids n highs and amps bought individually (without passive crossover and or filters) but thank goodness u made this vid thanks again!!!!
Cool thanks, enjoy
+Five Star Car Stereo oh i will (with my 32 mids and highs lol)
+b1782w holy ear bleeding, have fun with that :)
I have the pioneer avh-5800bhs and I'm trying to do the Auto EQ Time Alignment Measurent with the pioneer microphone & when I go to the screen to go do the measurement the screen doesn't fold down to put the mic in? what can be the problem?
awesome vid guys !
Thanks
Know this video is old. I just put in a 1500nex unit. Do I need to use network mode on a 04 lt tahoe with factory bose system? Thanks
What if you have 3 way componant front stage and a rear sub?
Always great videos
I've reset mine about 3 times and still haven't got the option to change to standard mode. Avh 4200nex with latest 1.07 update
i didnt understand 25:20 . do they say i have to reduce my subwoofers amp gain in order get arround clipping ? i have my amp at gain 12 o clock, because i like a strond bass at low sounds.
Hi. I have a E90 3 series with aftermarket speakers. So currently, I have a component set at the front with passive crossovers for the doors and tweeters. There are a pair of midbass drivers under the front seats. I’ve removed the rear speakers and have a sub in the trunk. The headunit is a pioneer sphda120. The speakers are connected to a 4 channel amp and the sub is connected to mono amp. At present the unit is in standard mode. I wanted to ask if I could change to network mode with the existing speakers so that the fronts are high passed at roughly 1.5khz the tweeters would be taken care of by the passive crossovers. The midbass under the seats would be bandpassed between 80hz to 1.5khz and the subs low passed at 80, all at a 12db slope. Is that possible? Thanks.
Awesome video but I have a question if anyone can answer. Im currently using have a 4 channel set up but if i switch to this network mode and hook up my fronts tweter and mid individually to each with out the crossover won't I get reduced output from the amp since each speaker individually is a higher ohms rating??? Please help
when I hit radio on my head unit it resets the entire headunit? what do I do
Installing a Pioneer AVH-x5800bhs with 4-channel in 4 door components, and a sub powered by a 5 channel soundstream PN5.640d amp. Should I use std or network? I would like to eliminate the passive crossovers.
You will want to go standard. To do network mode you would have to run all the tweeters off channels 1-2 and all the mids off 3-4. Since the speakers are in the front and rear you will not be able to use the time corrections.
can you do a video on connecting a kicker pt250 to the avh 3700 bhs head unit
Hey guys, now that I am using a dsp do I want my Pioneer head unit in network or standard mode? I notice they sound completely different. I still have tweets mids and sub. Thanks!
How good is the internal deck amp? Would it run a component like those Pioneer you show on this video?
I'm planning on using it for a network mode and add an amplifier just for a 10" subwoofer.
+pureloud yes it will work just fine. The deck power is clean up till about 28, so use that for max volume when settings amp.
I have front and rear 2-way components, and I'm wondering if I'll get better sound quality running network mode with the 4 tweeters on channel 1-2, the 4 mids on channel 3-4. and a sub. Or if I'd get better sound in standard mode using the passive crossovers.
I also considered network mode using my external amps for the front tweeter & mid, and the head unit internal amps for the rear tweeter & mid.
I understand I won't have any separation between for front and rear, but would it sound better?
Russell Seward we have toyed with this idea also. In the end we do Standard mode so we can use the time correction. That does more for us and sounds better we feel.
Hey guys, is there a limit to two speakers per output in network mode? reason I ask is I'm running components on all four doors and was wondering if I could run all four tweeters on one output, all four mids one other output and sub as usual? thanks and keep up the good work enjoy watching the videos.
James Carrillo yes there is a limit of 2 speakers per channel. So you would need an amp. You will not be able to use the time correction.
ok thanks I forgot to mention they're on a 4ch amp. I don't currently use the time correction on my kenwood, so I most likely won't know what I'm missing lol
James Carrillo ok, then you are good to go.
Great vids. I have the 1700s,why is there no adjustment on the rear speakers when on the speaker level page? My rears are playing louder than my front and powered by HU. I have the rear channel selected and it takes away the fader mode also.
I have the network mode selected because I have a powered sub running on sub rca. I'm using the 4 HU channels to power my doors. Should I keep it in network mode then?
+J Cook no I would restore the radio to standard mode. That will work better for you
I just bought the 80prs and like many others, am new to this "network mode" thing. I have a 2 channel amp powering coaxial speakers up front and a mono amp powering a single subwoofer. Which mode should I run? Also, when I upgrade to component speakers up front should I switch over to network mode or stay in standard? Thanks in advance.
For now you would do standard mode. If when you get your new speakers you up grade to a 4 channel amp to power them switch to network mode. You can run the tweeters on channels 1-2 and the midrange on channels 3-4. You can use the radios active crossover in the network mode and not use the passive ones they come with.
+Five Star Car Stereo I get it. So I would have to run separate speaker wires for the mid and the tweeters back to the amp, correct?
+Brandon Holtmeier yes you got it.
Hi there, I've been watching your videos and researching but can't figure this out. I'm building a setup in my 2 seater which means I have a set of components and a sub (3 way) now I'm looking at getting this unit DEH-X8800BHS which has network mode. My question is how will I be wiring this to the amp? Using the GM-D8604 I will use 2 channels bridged to give my sub 300 rms which leaves me with 2 channels pushing 100 rms each 4ohm. The components I use are the TS-D1730C which require 60 rms. I'll be turning the gain down as I'm pushing almost double what the speakers need. Now in network mode you say that one channel is tweeters and one channel is speakers, at 100rms per channel is sounds like overkill for tweeters?
Nik Ponomarov you will need a 5 channel amp to do Network mode. You need a channel for tweeters ( front outputs) mid range ( rear outputs) and sub woofer
First off of like to thank you. Your videos are very informative. I have a question concerning my pioneer AVH 3800bhs. I was reading the instructions (crazy, right?!) and I noticed it said if you use the RCA's for amplifiers the regular wiring to the speakers turns off. Is this true? For example. I have (4) 6.5's I'd like to run with one if my amps. I also have (4) 3.5's that due to their lower power requirements I wanted to run off the 3800. But from what I'm understanding I can't do that? I have to run all 8 of the mids and highs off my amp? Thank you!
What page is that on? No we do what you are asking all the time.
Page 55 in the manual that came with my 3800. It's the section called "Connection". It's the third thing mentioned. Right under "Without internal amp". It says "important" "Tye speaker leads are not used when this connection is in use". So I took that to mean either they become inoperable by way of the HU sensing the RCA's are being used or that you shouldn't do it. But I obviously am misinterpreting it wrong if you guys do it with success. Thanks a lot for the quick response!!
+Jason L yeah these owners manuals can be fun to read for sure.
Actually you could (if you have a component set) do network mode with 4 CH. All you need is a RCA splitter. at 18:12 I think you are talking about sound stage.
You mean doing front and rear network mode, yes. You would just get no time correction, you could do level control at the amp.
+Five Star Car Stereo Right, in my SQ build I might not even put in rear speakers though. I am going to run it active through the Alpine PDX-V9. With a Pioneer AVH-4000NEX in Network Mode. I don't really want to buy another amp for rear speakers. I might get them (some cheaper ones, I am going to get the Polk Audio MM6015) for when I would have passengers. You would still get time correct on the front speakers though. Just it would be the same correction that is on the rear speakers. Yes, the initial level would be set from the amp. Though I would still use the headunit for tweaking and crossover.
+Joshua's Recordings the 4000 does not have network mode, none of the NEX radios do. It is only available on the 5800/5700 and below. The pdx v9 has it but no time correction.
+Five Star Car Stereo Why doesn't Pioneer's flagship radios have network mode? Shoot - I'll have to get the AVH-5800BHS then. Darn I really wanted that SD card reader and dual USB ports (can't have everything I guess). THANK YOU - would be so annoyed to find that no network mode if I bought the unit!
+Joshua's Recordings yes this has been a sore point for me and them. The 5800 is a great radio just don't plan on doing any maps or apps or anything like that, just great audio.
Hey guys good info, great stuff and keep it up.. I have a question on the crossover settings.
So I got a Pioneer 80prs and I am planning on going 3 way active (tweeterless), so I am gonna be running a dayton audio mid range with a Focal K2 mid bass powered by a mosconi 100.4 and a Rockford T1 running of a Ipaul mono, what crossover points would be ideal for a tweeterless setup? I am looking at getting the vocals out from the dayton all the way up..
Cheers!
In network mode the prs80 on the tweeter channel will only play down to 1.25khz. That may be kind of high for a mid. In standard mode it will play lower, 200hz but that to low. The 1.25 area is probably going to be your best bet. I like to use the numbers as a starting point but let my ears do the rest. A little goes a long way in sound. Play one set of speakers at a time to check for distortion. When you think you have the right settings play them together and make final adjustments. Leave the sub turned off until last.
Thanks for the quick reply guys, Like you said a little goes a long way.. Will have to do a lot of test runs I guess..
does it work on the sources like you demonstrated in the video how would I do the same thing with my 80prs
Yes it will work over USB, aux, and Bluetooth
on the avh x7800bt can u hold down on the left hand corner and hold down to bypass the e brake
Not that is only for the AVIC navigation radio. The AVH radios need a bypass
did you do a video on the pioneer DE PRS like u doing on the new pioneer I got this 1 the one after
No not yet
I tried my avh 2700bs in both standard and network mode. it seems to sound better in network mode, but i want my passengers to hear the music in the rear. when in network mode, I'm assuming it just pretty much shuts off the rear speakers, and let's me have full control of the front mids and tweeters. can I control the crossover points of the front AND rear tweeters and mids from the deck like it allows in network mode, but still use the rear speakers like in standard mode? Does network mode inherently sound better because of more crossover control? can i make standard mode sound as good as network mode? is it just in my head that it sounds better?
using the stock speakers in a 2002 bmw 540i. powered sub enclosure, 45 watt Alpine mini amp...
It maybe in your head, some people feel like they have to use Network mode. Like if they don't use this feature they are missing out on something.
Unfortunately there is no rear output at all in this mode. You can however connect the rear speakers and front speakers together. Connect front and rear tweeter together and do the same for the midrange. You will get the crossover just you can't use time correction.
Five Star Car Stereo Thank you. That's what I needed to know.
Need some serious help. I have a 2012 R/T Durango with a 730N. radio and I purchased a Pioneer 4200NEX with the PAC4-11 how do I wire the factory back up camera from the existing wires that are in a white plug from the factory.
Please help Mike
Michael Damiani you need the PAC CHYRVD harness for backup camera retention
Thanks a bunch , I can't believe I missed that one. You guys are great and love watch your video's.
Thanks Again Mike
Ok. So say Im running a 5 channel amplifier with all 5 channels. Fronts, rears and sub. If I use this headunit in network mode to control the front components and my sub. Would I still get signal and sound through my rears?
You will get no sound in the rear. In network mode there is no rear fill at all. The 5 channel amp would run tweeters on channel 1-2, midrange on channels 3-4, and subwoofer on channel 5. If you want front/ rear run in standard
+Five Star Car Stereo Inc. Thanks guys.
Hey I just install the avh-x8700bt/ 4100nex , i have restored it but can't get the network mode, and also I don't have the extra woofer settings like what I see in this video, like bass boast. I have no bass in the car. I use to have heavy bass when I was using my andriod head unit. What can I do to get some bass with the avh-x8700bt.
What mode would you use if you were using only an amp, mid range speakers ONLY IN THE FRONT and tweeters ONLY IN THE FRONT, WITHOUT using a subwoofer? That is no sub and no rear speakers.
Im also going to be running a reverse camera, not sure whether this makes a difference though.
+Tigermac13 you can use network mode for the install if it is a 4 channel amp. Fronts on tweeters and rear on midrange. If it is a 2 channel amp do standard mode. This will have no effect on the camera.
+Five Star Car Stereo Excellent! Thanks for your prompt reply and help 😉👍🏼 !
+Five Star Car Stereo
Hey guys I also have a quick question to ask about answering phone calls via bluetooth. If I plug in a USB stick/drive into the deck to play my music, can I still answer phone calls over bluetooth or any other way through the deck? Or does the music have to play from my phone (iphone) to be able to answer phone calls over bluetooth etc?
Dynamic duo!!!
thankyou
Do any of the higher priced models like the avic have the network feature? and do you for see any of the 2017 models having it?
Shaun Geyen sadly no, non of them have it. Kenwood didn't even put it in there higher ended radios. As for 2017 the new AVH models will be out the end of November. The AVIC February or March
Does avh-x8750 have this function? How activate it?
When setting gains with a DD1 in network mode do you still leave everything flat?
Yes, EQ settings should always be flat when setting gains.
What if I want to run active 3 way components?
Tweeter
3" mid
6.5" mid bass
How would I go about connecting in network mode?
Thanks!
+Daron Smith you would have to Cap off the tweeter and use the front output for both the tweeter and 3" mid.
I have a pioneer AVH-X3800BHS radio and the bluetooth is very low can you help me or i will have to buy another radio
Bluetooth audio will always be a little low in terms of sound and quality compared with others sources (USB, Disc). Did you try to raise the source level from the bluetooth mode itself?
Why does Pioneer call it network mode instead of Internal 3 ch DSP??? Why confuse the standard terms? You guys should clarify it as such and explain the difference if any, and then proceed. thanks!
Sorry, Pioneer has been using that term for a long time. It goes back to the single din PRS radios with the same features. I personally think it is a confusing name too.
so any of the avh _800 series has the network mode. I love the network mode. I have a 80prs but it's crapping out and I want a double din
+CJ Allen yes any of the 4 digit 800 series radio will do it. Pretty cool.
Yasss
If I have a preamp equalizer between my head unit (avh-2400nex) and my amp should I run it network mode? Since there are only two rca inputs in the equalizer?
No. You should get rid of the pre amp
Use standard mode!
i have a pioneer avh 5800bhs i have tweeters, front rear and subs and the trunks should i use network mode
Christopher Crawford no, standard mode. Network mode is no good if you have rear speakers.
Five Star Car Stereo Why not? Front and rears can be tied to midrange (bandpass) out feeding into a 4 channel amp. Tie tweeters into a 2 ch amp fed from high pass, and then sub gets the amp fed from low pass output. On all amps, disable filtering. BAM!
I have a avh 4800bs once I turn the volume up to a certain point the whole unit cuts itself completely off and powers back on without losing any memory. And I've come to notice that it's cutoff point is different depending on which song is play at the time. Some levels are higher than others. Is there a reason for this?
+Rodney Zackery if you are using deck power it may be a low ohm load on the amplifier. Try fading it to the front or rear and see if it still does it. Make sure you are using 4 ohm speakers or the a speaker is not bad
Thanks for the quick response, I had watched one of your other videos earlier and went and made some adjustments in my settings and learned that some of my settings were set too high and was playing mostly in front. So I even the levels out and now sounds a whole lot better and I can turn volume up without it cutting off. I have brand new Kicker door speakers I previously had installed not more than a week ago so I figured it wasn't those.
Hi! how does it effect the 4 chennel amp in and output if I split the rear 2 pre out to 4 pre out as far as the voltage, watt or sound quality on avh 4200nex?
Vuthy S it will reduce it by half. You will have to turn up the gain higher on the amp. What are you trying to do?
Set to network mode but since the front pre out are for high only I need to share the rear pre out for the mid to feed my front door mid. or should you suggest differently?
Thanks, you guys are great!
Does this specific pioneer not have auto eq that uses the mic? If it did, would you just use that to set everything up? I know the NEX pioneers do have it and I feel like I am going to be relying on that feature way too much lol
Yes these radios have the auto EQ feature and it works great. We use it all the time to get us real close. We usually just tweak it a little bit afterwards. Then we save the settings so we do not have to do it again.
So, you CAN adjust the auto eq settings once it is calibrated? I thought once you use auto eq setting you couldn't adjust from it.
+blubag we just adjust the speaker level most of the time
Five Star Car Stereo how do i use the "ATT" mode instead of "Mute"?
If you get rid of the crossover how do you wire the component
+Forty86 the radio has the crossovers built into it. You have to manually set the frequencies for your speakers protection.
Couldnt you use a splitter to drive all four channel in network mode Use two four channel amps with splitters
Yes, just level off the time correction
can u use the dd 1 like u did on the 8 prs if so how are u using the disk that can with it and u setting different sources
We use the DD1 disk for cd, for everything else we use an iPhone with a tone generator app. It is called Audio Tool
+Five Star Car Stereo that app is 7.99
+Eazy Rida you can get the tone generator " Tone Generator Pro" for .99
When you say sub woofer can that also mean my rear dash speakers?
Atm im just mid and tweeter shall i keep standard mode??
Network mode
My question is do I need to mess with the amp settings in network mode.
+SangreAzul only the gain. The radio can do the rest
Do I select highpass, full range, or low pass cause I need to select one right.
I've wondered that too. I think you set for full range and let the HU provide the crossover.
Thanks alot!
How much and where can we get the RTA tool?
Great Video!
They are $399. On Amazon just search PAA3
Five Star Car Stereo
thanks! got one on Ebay for 220!
+UnknownHandle UnknownHandle good deal!
My 80prs doesn't have network mode please help?
Lokesh Kataria yes it does the switch is under the radio
do you guys sell pioneer stereo and how do i find you on the web
Charlie Sellers we sell Pioneer. We are not on the Web. You can call, ask for Paul
Do all pioneer stereos have this setting
No, the NEX model do not have this feature.
+Five Star Car Stereo thank you .
But I can try you'll have a hard time understanding me if you have the patience with me I think we could get something done I call Monday around noon
I dont understand what mixtrack is.
Stef.e46 you and me both, that is why we have never done a video on it.
do the ah x7800bt has 3 way active mode
Yes it does.
+Five Star Car Stereo which double din has built in nav and can use sorts Xm on the avh x7800bt
+Eazy Rida no built in navigation but you can add the AVIC-U280 Pioneer add on navi. You would have to do XM from your phone, it has no input.
I didn't get u r last reply
I didn't get your Las reply
The AVH radios are navigation ready. Pioneer makes an Add on navigation for those radios. If you get the AVIC u280, it will give you built in navigation to your radio. Unfortunately none of the flip outs have XM capabilities, you can download the app to your phone and stream it to your radio over Bluetooth.
Hey what are those???
Lol....jp
you guys have a phone number so I could call y'all....
I'm disabled and can no longer talk sorry
Charlie Sellers no problem we can use email also if that would work better Fivestarcarstereo@gmail.com
what to do if my Pionner SMART Sync settings dont save? I press SAVE SETTINGS, and always when turn off car, and headunit. And turn on the Smart Sync settings are back to default, + the Load Setting is greyed out??? im doing smth wrong?