Although the Stridon looks like a great Bible and I plan to purchase one in the ESV, the Quentel is my all time favorite. I love the 2 column format and the beautiful 11 point Milo font with the cross references at the bottom. Thank you Tim for the review and comparison.
I love the Stridon, there's very little about it that I would change. It's a direct hit in beauty and functionality for me. As I write this in April of 2024, I am waiting for my Desert Camel Stridon SCR ESV expected toward the end of the month. I'm stoked 🤗
I like the larger font for my eyes and I am not crazy about verse by verse unless I am using this as a study Bible, jumping from verse to footnotes, . My next Bible I am almost certain will be Quentel NASB blue goatskin Bible. If the Stridon was just single column I would prefer that. Both are very nice Bibles.
The Quentel for sure. Looking at the ESV in the near future. That thin newspaper style columns are so much easier for me to read and keep my place. The only thing I would really have liked is words of Christ in red however since they use red for other features I get it.
I thought the verse by verse would turn me off but I’ve grown to love the Stridon in a short time. The wide margins make it suitable for notes (and line breaks have the effect of providing even more white space on the page!), but it is still a relatively compact package, and I’ve found it easier on my eyes to follow than blocks of paragraphs. I have black/red which is my favorite Schuyler format and love it.
have you ever used a two column bible? I dont mean just to check it or read a bit - but used as the primary daily bible? How difficult do you think it will be to switch to this single column if all you have had is the double? have you ever compared the stridon to the Cambridge Topaz? what are your thoughts of the differences between them?
I really like the looks of the Stridon so much better than the Quentel. I have a Quentel and like it, but the Stridon has the perfect format for me. I just wish they had it in the NKJV. I might have even gone for the NASB, but not in the 2020 version. I guess I'll be waiting!
I so agree on both comments about the translations. Right now they still have Quentels and PSQs in the NASB95, but I"m not sure they'll ever do another printing of the '95. I hope they do. They won't for the Stridon, though.
I would love to see a Quentel reset to a nine-point font, but maintaining the current column width (right now, they look a little short to me). The Stridon footer layout is really nice too. More good things to come, I’m sure!
I love my Quentels, but I would prefer the Stridon IF it had 11-pt font, maybe with narrower margins. (I can't bring myself to mark my Schuylers and Allans; so I don't need big margins. I use less expensive ones for that.). Also, the Stridon seems to have a long line length. Do you know how many words per line? Too long makes it a little less easy to read. I'd really like a vbv single column, though! I need large print. Also, the ghosting seems worse on the Stridon but that may be just the individual Bible. Schuylers can vary Bible to Bible. I like the slimmed down Quentel's size better than the original, so I don't know about a chunkier Stridon. Tough decision!
I'm still relatively new to all of this, so I don't have any preferences (double/single-column, paragraph vs VBV, wide-margin or not, etc). TBH, I would be very happy with EITHER a Quentel or a Stridon in a translation I like. Having said THAT, at this moment I am most interested in the Stridon, as it has features I don't have on most of my Bibles in my current collection. So far I only have one single-column (and it's a study Bible), only one VBV (and I've yet to go into it; next year for certain), and NO wide-margin. Subject to change.
I like the paragraph by paragraph two column Quentel. The layout of the references and footnotes are my preferred layout. The only change I would make is to change the color of chapter numbers from red (🔴)to blue(🔵); and add red lettering for the words of Christ. The imperial blue goat skin with blue under gold gilt edging is stunning.🤩
How cool would it be to have an LSB Stridon to go with this. I’d like to see something special for it seeing as how the 95 fans have seemed to gravitate towards it. And as for ESV users. They need a special king ago. It’s been King for 8 years. 😊
If the Stridon was a paragraph format it would be near perfection for me. But as is, I think I lean towards to Quentel. Great video Tim! P.S. Agree with your case for the Midsize Quentel. Would be amazing!
I love the Stridon. I like the layout of the Stridon a smidge better than the Quentel because it is black letter and verse by verse yet the single column makes it feel like a readers.
I absolutely love single column and the margin size. It’s absolutely heartbreaking to see it in verse by verse instead of paragraph format. Gonna stick with the Humble Lamb bibles for the gorgeous Milo font and the Shepherd’s amazing paragraph style single column format. Hopefully we’ll see an ESV single column paragraph from Humble Lamb someday
Haha I was about to come comment this. I'm tired of the thin paper. I have plenty of cheaper Bibles that have nice paper and opaque and still thin why can't they do that too
2 super Bibles. Prefer the Quentel, less chunky, love the full yap, 11 point typeface and 11 font. For a reference edition, for me, the dual or single column does not really matter.
I prefer the Quentel. However, I like the foot note format of the Stridon and it is a better foot note than the Quentel. Mid size is also my preference. Not too big, not too small, but just right.
can anyone compare the Schuyler Stridon and Quentel against the Cambridge Topaz for me please. I am seeking my very 1st premium bible and i am on limited income so i cannot redo this purchase and it will be my primary long term bible ..... maybe for next decade. I have used the double column ESV bonded leather bible that was about $60 primarily for past 2 decades and it is literally falling apart. Cover is torn from spine. I loved that bible but am going to switch to the KJV which i have never enjoyed reading up to this point so I may just get the NKJV because these truly are more accurate translations. I was shocked and heartbroken to discover my ESV was not a straight translation and had 16 verses actually removed from the bible - some of those not even in footnote form. How difficult is it to go to single column from double? What do you all think? Which one would you choose from these? or which one is your fav and why?? thanks Fam.
Stridon is my choice. 11 pt font on the Quentel is too large. Do you know if the NLT Quentel will be in the standard 11 pt font? I wish they would move to 10 or 10.5.
You should do the Christian Art Publishers KJV Holy Bible, Standard Size, Faux Leather Red Letter Edition - Thumb Index & Ribbon Marker, King James Version, White. For your next Bible review.
🎉 I have this one now in full Yapp mahogany coming Tuesday. I think this paired with my LSB will be my favorite duo. Now if Schuyler can get their hands on the LSB. ❤
It's a minor issue but I dont know where the idea came from that more text can fit on a two-column page making the bible thinner! This is incorrect. When considering the "usable" page width (let's say 80 characters wide), the two column format automatically makes the center 2 or 3 characters unusable on every line whereas those spaces are usable in the single column format. The issue with the Stridon is its verse-by-verse format. Everything else being equal, a single-column paragraph bible will always be the thinnest format; it simply makes use the most use of each page. I hope consumers aren't requesting/buying two-column bibles based on this misconception because I want more single-column, paragraph options.
This is correct in theory, but it depends on how many words per line are being used. You'll see on the Stridon that the single column text block takes up a smaller proportion of the available page space than the double columns of the Quentel (easily seen in margin width). This actually helps with readability: longer single lines bog down the reader; more line breaks help carry them along.
I’ve got at least two or three paragraph format single-columns that are significantly thicker than their double-column counterparts with similar page dimensions.
Don’t like single column, don’t own one. Best page format is Cambridge Topaz double column with outer “WM” without being an actual WM Bible!. But I don’t have it as I am already using the Turquoise KJV. Have Quentel WM but it is huge and bigger than a brick 😛. But I am now considering Stridon NASB because of the outer “WM” 😇. I’d like to start scribbling again on the margins but my current Turquoise KJV doesn’t allow that. I like the Nelson Premier Preacher Bible too because of thicker paper, but Nelson Bibles are Made in Korea ☹️☹️. I think there is now a full yapp brick red Stridon NASB.
Attention Schuyler buyers. I bought a new Stridon NASB and was surprised to discover that tens of pages had unaligned, garbled and unreadable references at the bottom of the pages. I contacted Evangelical and this is the reply I got from them: We're sorry to hear that your new Stridon did not meet your expectations! It's not entirely unusual for red print to be misaligned from the black print even in a premium Bible, as these parts of the pages are printed at different times. Publishers do not consider this issue to be a printing defect unless the text overlaps and becomes unreadable. If you have pages that look like this, please send us some photos for review. We apologize for any inconvenience. Beware and check before you buy the Stridon.
Recently I have read so many comments about Schuyler's customer service going downhill. This is distressing. When you pay a premium price it is not unreasonable to expect a product that has no defects. That is definitely a defect, not a slight variation. Someone posted in a review that some of the signatures were not aligned and it was noticeable in their Bible. Also their colors are hit or miss, but I suppose that's not really a defect unless you hate the unexpected color. This is disappointing. I hope you got a refund for your Bible. (I love Schuyler, btw, and have many of their Bibles.)
Hands down, the Stridon is the one for me. I appreciate the single-column, verse-by-verse format.
Nice!
Although the Stridon looks like a great Bible and I plan to purchase one in the ESV, the Quentel is my all time favorite. I love the 2 column format and the beautiful 11 point Milo font with the cross references at the bottom. Thank you Tim for the review and comparison.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing, Mike!
Is the Quentel ESV still in 11 point font? Or did they change to 10 point?
@@marklukens5541all the new ESV Quentels are 10 point along with the NLT and RSV. All others are still 11.
Single column verse by verse is easily the best, especially for preaching etc. A.
My brother is buying me an Esv Schuyler Quentel desert camel calf skin Bible…. Can’t wait!
@@slamfire6005 that is a great brother!
@ lol the best I ever had!
I love the Stridon, there's very little about it that I would change.
It's a direct hit in beauty and functionality for me.
As I write this in April of 2024, I am waiting for my Desert Camel Stridon SCR ESV expected toward the end of the month. I'm stoked 🤗
That shelf behind you is so beautiful. I cant stop staring 😍
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Thanks, Tim. The way my brain works, I like the paragraph format.
I get that. 👍🏼
I like the larger font for my eyes and I am not crazy about verse by verse unless I am using this as a study Bible, jumping from verse to footnotes, . My next Bible I am almost certain will be Quentel NASB blue goatskin Bible. If the Stridon was just single column I would prefer that. Both are very nice Bibles.
I really like the Stridon. The single column, verse-by-verse appeals to me. ❤️
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I prefer the Quentel for the double columns, paragraph format & the 11 pt font.
This is a good comparison video. 👏 Thanks!
Thank you!
The Quentel for sure. Looking at the ESV in the near future. That thin newspaper style columns are so much easier for me to read and keep my place. The only thing I would really have liked is words of Christ in red however since they use red for other features I get it.
I thought the verse by verse would turn me off but I’ve grown to love the Stridon in a short time. The wide margins make it suitable for notes (and line breaks have the effect of providing even more white space on the page!), but it is still a relatively compact package, and I’ve found it easier on my eyes to follow than blocks of paragraphs. I have black/red which is my favorite Schuyler format and love it.
Love to hear this, Cliff! Thanks for sharing!
have you ever used a two column bible? I dont mean just to check it or read a bit - but used as the primary daily bible? How difficult do you think it will be to switch to this single column if all you have had is the double?
have you ever compared the stridon to the Cambridge Topaz?
what are your thoughts of the differences between them?
cant wait for the ESV Stridon to be released in late 2023....Merry Christmas and Happy New Year..
The Stridon looks fantastic! I missed out on a Caxton. I think I want a Treveris. Now this. I'm so confused! lol Great comparison, Tim.
I’m going to work on a Stridon / Treveris comparison, too!
@@timwildsmith
Oh, that will be very helpful! Can't wait to see it. 🤗
Just found your channel !
I love them both! Looking for a premium Bible in ESV translation.
The margin space puts the Stridon over the edge for me! Always preferred single column too.
I really like the looks of the Stridon so much better than the Quentel. I have a Quentel and like it, but the Stridon has the perfect format for me. I just wish they had it in the NKJV. I might have even gone for the NASB, but not in the 2020 version. I guess I'll be waiting!
Maybe they'll do an NKJV Stridon in the future!
I so agree on both comments about the translations. Right now they still have Quentels and PSQs in the NASB95, but I"m not sure they'll ever do another printing of the '95. I hope they do. They won't for the Stridon, though.
I would love to see a Quentel reset to a nine-point font, but maintaining the current column width (right now, they look a little short to me). The Stridon footer layout is really nice too. More good things to come, I’m sure!
Thanks for sharing!
I love my Quentels, but I would prefer the Stridon IF it had 11-pt font, maybe with narrower margins. (I can't bring myself to mark my Schuylers and Allans; so I don't need big margins. I use less expensive ones for that.). Also, the Stridon seems to have a long line length. Do you know how many words per line? Too long makes it a little less easy to read. I'd really like a vbv single column, though! I need large print. Also, the ghosting seems worse on the Stridon but that may be just the individual Bible. Schuylers can vary Bible to Bible.
I like the slimmed down Quentel's size better than the original, so I don't know about a chunkier Stridon. Tough decision!
I'm still relatively new to all of this, so I don't have any preferences (double/single-column, paragraph vs VBV, wide-margin or not, etc). TBH, I would be very happy with EITHER a Quentel or a Stridon in a translation I like.
Having said THAT, at this moment I am most interested in the Stridon, as it has features I don't have on most of my Bibles in my current collection. So far I only have one single-column (and it's a study Bible), only one VBV (and I've yet to go into it; next year for certain), and NO wide-margin. Subject to change.
Great insight!
I like the paragraph by paragraph two column Quentel. The layout of the references and footnotes are my preferred layout. The only change I would make is to change the color of chapter numbers from red (🔴)to blue(🔵); and add red lettering for the words of Christ. The imperial blue goat skin with blue under gold gilt edging is stunning.🤩
Thanks for sharing!
I love them both!
How cool would it be to have an LSB Stridon to go with this. I’d like to see something special for it seeing as how the 95 fans have seemed to gravitate towards it. And as for ESV users. They need a special king ago. It’s been King for 8 years. 😊
If the Stridon was a paragraph format it would be near perfection for me. But as is, I think I lean towards to Quentel. Great video Tim!
P.S. Agree with your case for the Midsize Quentel. Would be amazing!
Thanks Ryan!
I prefer the Stridon just love the single column one day in a NLT.
Nice!
I agree with this for the NLT
I love the Stridon. I like the layout of the Stridon a smidge better than the Quentel because it is black letter and verse by verse yet the single column makes it feel like a readers.
Thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love single column and the margin size. It’s absolutely heartbreaking to see it in verse by verse instead of paragraph format. Gonna stick with the Humble Lamb bibles for the gorgeous Milo font and the Shepherd’s amazing paragraph style single column format. Hopefully we’ll see an ESV single column paragraph from Humble Lamb someday
I prefer paragraph, too.
Yeah. I preach/teach weekly from a Heirloom Legacy, and the format almost never gives me any issues. The advantages are wonderful!
We need this ESV New Stridon on a 36gsm paper. That 29gsm is way too thin for writing on the wide margin
I'm so with you there Moises, I quit buying Schuyler with the swap in thinner paper. I have a thintel I've never warmed to.
Haha I was about to come comment this. I'm tired of the thin paper. I have plenty of cheaper Bibles that have nice paper and opaque and still thin why can't they do that too
I imagine 32 might be possible, but most of the publishers seems to be opting for less than 36 at the moment.
Why does the new Schyler Quintel NIV have 36 gsm paper when all the other Schuyler Quintels are 28 gsm?
2 super Bibles. Prefer the Quentel, less chunky, love the full yap, 11 point typeface and 11 font. For a reference edition, for me, the dual or single column does not really matter.
Thanks for sharing!
I prefer the Quentel. However, I like the foot note format of the Stridon and it is a better foot note than the Quentel.
Mid size is also my preference. Not too big, not too small, but just right.
Thanks for sharing!
Not seeing the Quentel with the 2020 text yet. Stridon comes in 2020. I’d prefer Quentel but I’m impatient
can anyone compare the Schuyler Stridon and Quentel against the Cambridge Topaz for me please. I am seeking my very 1st premium bible and i am on limited income so i cannot redo this purchase and it will be my primary long term bible ..... maybe for next decade.
I have used the double column ESV bonded leather bible that was about $60 primarily for past 2 decades and it is literally falling apart. Cover is torn from spine. I loved that bible but am going to switch to the KJV which i have never enjoyed reading up to this point so I may just get the NKJV because these truly are more accurate translations. I was shocked and heartbroken to discover my ESV was not a straight translation and had 16 verses actually removed from the bible - some of those not even in footnote form.
How difficult is it to go to single column from double?
What do you all think? Which one would you choose from these?
or which one is your fav and why??
thanks Fam.
I wish they made the font bigger
Love the Stridon. Prefer single column and like the margin space.
It's a winner!
Stridon is my choice. 11 pt font on the Quentel is too large. Do you know if the NLT Quentel will be in the standard 11 pt font? I wish they would move to 10 or 10.5.
I've heard the NLT will be a 10... but not sure.
Give it a few years and you may appreciate the 11 point font 😂
You should do the Christian Art Publishers
KJV Holy Bible, Standard Size, Faux Leather Red Letter Edition - Thumb Index & Ribbon Marker, King James Version, White. For your next Bible review.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Stridon for the win
🎉 I have this one now in full Yapp mahogany coming Tuesday. I think this paired with my LSB will be my favorite duo. Now if Schuyler can get their hands on the LSB. ❤
It's a minor issue but I dont know where the idea came from that more text can fit on a two-column page making the bible thinner! This is incorrect. When considering the "usable" page width (let's say 80 characters wide), the two column format automatically makes the center 2 or 3 characters unusable on every line whereas those spaces are usable in the single column format. The issue with the Stridon is its verse-by-verse format. Everything else being equal, a single-column paragraph bible will always be the thinnest format; it simply makes use the most use of each page. I hope consumers aren't requesting/buying two-column bibles based on this misconception because I want more single-column, paragraph options.
This is correct in theory, but it depends on how many words per line are being used. You'll see on the Stridon that the single column text block takes up a smaller proportion of the available page space than the double columns of the Quentel (easily seen in margin width). This actually helps with readability: longer single lines bog down the reader; more line breaks help carry them along.
I’ve got at least two or three paragraph format single-columns that are significantly thicker than their double-column counterparts with similar page dimensions.
@@thjshbr I wish they'd ditch the wide margins and use 11-pt font! (Can't please everyone, LOL.)
Discount code? I don't "need" it but I want it!
I wish!
What does “verse by verse” mean?
@@kelleypears4158 each verse is indented
Star Trek versus Star Wars is a better question
🤣😂
Stridon. I prefer the single column, verse by verse format
Good to know!
Don’t like single column, don’t own one. Best page format is Cambridge Topaz double column with outer “WM” without being an actual WM Bible!. But I don’t have it as I am already using the Turquoise KJV. Have Quentel WM but it is huge and bigger than a brick 😛. But I am now considering Stridon NASB because of the outer “WM” 😇. I’d like to start scribbling again on the margins but my current Turquoise KJV doesn’t allow that.
I like the Nelson Premier Preacher Bible too because of thicker paper, but Nelson Bibles are Made in Korea ☹️☹️. I think there is now a full yapp brick red Stridon NASB.
I couldn’t make up my mind so I got both
Smart man!!
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Attention Schuyler buyers.
I bought a new Stridon NASB and was surprised to discover that tens of pages had unaligned, garbled and unreadable references at the bottom of the pages. I contacted Evangelical and this is the reply I got from them:
We're sorry to hear that your new Stridon did not meet your expectations! It's not entirely unusual for red print to be misaligned from the black print even in a premium Bible, as these parts of the pages are printed at different times. Publishers do not consider this issue to be a printing defect unless the text overlaps and becomes unreadable. If you have pages that look like this, please send us some photos for review. We apologize for any inconvenience.
Beware and check before you buy the Stridon.
Recently I have read so many comments about Schuyler's customer service going downhill. This is distressing. When you pay a premium price it is not unreasonable to expect a product that has no defects. That is definitely a defect, not a slight variation. Someone posted in a review that some of the signatures were not aligned and it was noticeable in their Bible. Also their colors are hit or miss, but I suppose that's not really a defect unless you hate the unexpected color. This is disappointing. I hope you got a refund for your Bible. (I love Schuyler, btw, and have many of their Bibles.)
I think the verse-by-verse is the deal breaker for me. I really want paragraphs.