Agree 100% on the aesthetics. New one is so boring looking. FD looks miles better. I have both and the FE is many steps ahead in the functionality department. The line lay on the FE makes all the difference and is worth the upgrade alone.
@johnbaggaofishing I'd give it a solid 8.5; it's exceptionally smooth and an absolute pleasure to use, what brings the score down slightly is the exorbitant price tag and the drag sound which sounds better to me on the older FD model. There is very little difference in the feel between this reel and my Stella FK.
Must admit I prefer the FE aesthetic, the "modern" look has been around for a while and can be found all over low cost reels to make them look more racey. It'll grow on you, less is more...
Definitely a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I don't think it's ugly by any means at all, it's quite a similar design to the Stella FK in it's simplicity. I just personally think the FD is a more aesthetically pleasing looking reel. Luckily none of this stuff has much effect on the functionality of it!
Nice!! It really reminds me of my 2011 twinpower. Really nice reel. Might get one soon. Love the slow oscillation of myv22 stella. I'm glad they did the same thing here.
The Twin Power SW is typically found in larger sizes and used more for heavy offshore work, the latest FE model is 5000 size and under so more of an estuary reel and lighter offshore work - much the same as the Stella and Stella SW series. The FE Model does have a seal to prevent ingress of water, however the way it has been designed is more functional to stopping water ingress via a water repellent treatment and design features.
@Dave30867 to each their own mate, I used to spend all my money on Bluewater gear like Tiagras and didn't splash much on light gear. Priorities change over time and now I seem to just spend a lot of money on everything 😅
The Diawa equivalent new 24 Certates are in the 600 and 700 range in AUS. There is no justification for the 200-buck price increase in AUS for the fe twin powers over the previous when you can buy them from Digitaka for under 500, the same price range as the new Certates on the site. The only reason I can see is Shimano is still sitting on a lot of inventory of FD and XD reels and needs to move the older models.
My guess is Shimano is probably trickling out small numbers of them to the Aussie market, I know that my local tackle shop only got the single 2500 delivered in their initial delivery. It would be a shame if the FD didn't sell that well as it is a phenomenal reel. I'm not a Daiwa guy personally but if I were to buy one it would probably be the Certate as it seems to have less issues compared to other Daiwa models.
I was told the same thing about the Tranx 150 size but it's price hasn't changed since it came out a little while ago. Will just have to wait and see I guess.
100%, I understand the philosophy of a simple design language but I think it is a little too simple. It reminds me a bit of the old FD sienna which was probably the best Sienna model that Shimano ever made
Money aside, if you could only buy one out of the TP FD, TP FE or the Stella FK? Looking at grabbing a c3000 and am a little stumped. It’s only about $200 difference between each model so (400 between FD and Stella) am thinking for that amount of count I may aswell just go for the FK?
That's a tough question! If money wasn't an issue, I would probably just go with the Stella FK. I've got one in a 2500 size and it's phenomenal. The TP FE feels remarkably similar in it's smoothness and overall feel. The design language between the 2 reels is very similar as well, to my eye the major difference between them is the colour. If we throw money back into the equation, the relative slight difference in price means that people end up where you are and consider just splashing the extra on the Stella. If the FE were the same price as the FD then to me it would be a no-brainer to get the FE. But it's not. Having said that, for the kind of prices that the FD would be going for now that it is discontinued - it's really hard to pass up some of the deals. I'm almost considering searching for another FD for that reason. I can probably sum it up best like this; Go the TP FD if you want bulletproof reliability, the better sounding drag and a bargain price Go the Stella FK if you want the flagship reel with all the bells and whistles Go the TP FE if you want most of a Stella FK at a slightly discounted price
@@jordythebassist wow, cracking reply mate, truly appreciate it. My local said they would work out a deal as I’m also chasing a few millerods, one to pair with a newly acquired sustain for bream chasing and the other with a TP/Stella (also looking at some nitro vapours instead) I’ll see what they can do. If the FD can come down to under 50% of the Stella I’ll go down that path but if not I’ll probably just grab the FK. With that amount of coin it might just be best to invest slightly more.
@@jordythebassist looks like I can get an FD for around $540 aud. I think that’s a no brainer at this stage. The slow oscillation and the bail arm guide on the FK is pretty cool but not sure if worth forking out the coin for. Can get two FDs for one Stella!
@@DanTheCardMan2 that's a great price and definitely hard to pass on! Check my recent video chasing flathead, I was using mine in that upload. It's a bloody awesome reel 💪
Fe is by far best looking reel imo easy to match with any rod
Agree 100% on the aesthetics. New one is so boring looking. FD looks miles better. I have both and the FE is many steps ahead in the functionality department. The line lay on the FE makes all the difference and is worth the upgrade alone.
If you rate 1-10?
@johnbaggaofishing I'd give it a solid 8.5; it's exceptionally smooth and an absolute pleasure to use, what brings the score down slightly is the exorbitant price tag and the drag sound which sounds better to me on the older FD model. There is very little difference in the feel between this reel and my Stella FK.
Must admit I prefer the FE aesthetic, the "modern" look has been around for a while and can be found all over low cost reels to make them look more racey. It'll grow on you, less is more...
Definitely a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. I don't think it's ugly by any means at all, it's quite a similar design to the Stella FK in it's simplicity. I just personally think the FD is a more aesthetically pleasing looking reel. Luckily none of this stuff has much effect on the functionality of it!
Very nice fish and reel you what a way to break it in
Nice!! It really reminds me of my 2011 twinpower. Really nice reel. Might get one soon.
Love the slow oscillation of myv22 stella. I'm glad they did the same thing here.
as soon as i saw the reel I told the same! i've got 4000pg (2024) and it looks awesome.
That Toray braid looks exactly like nomad panderra.
Can't say I've seen the Nomad braid, it looks a lot like Gosen IMO
@@jordythebassist I’d definitely recommend giving panderra a go 👍
How is this different from the Twin Power SW. is FE much improved?
Is FE not fully sealed for saltwater use?
The Twin Power SW is typically found in larger sizes and used more for heavy offshore work, the latest FE model is 5000 size and under so more of an estuary reel and lighter offshore work - much the same as the Stella and Stella SW series.
The FE Model does have a seal to prevent ingress of water, however the way it has been designed is more functional to stopping water ingress via a water repellent treatment and design features.
I have the dollars but I am not spending that on a fishing reel .
@Dave30867 to each their own mate, I used to spend all my money on Bluewater gear like Tiagras and didn't splash much on light gear. Priorities change over time and now I seem to just spend a lot of money on everything 😅
The Diawa equivalent new 24 Certates are in the 600 and 700 range in AUS. There is no justification for the 200-buck price increase in AUS for the fe twin powers over the previous when you can buy them from Digitaka for under 500, the same price range as the new Certates on the site. The only reason I can see is Shimano is still sitting on a lot of inventory of FD and XD reels and needs to move the older models.
My guess is Shimano is probably trickling out small numbers of them to the Aussie market, I know that my local tackle shop only got the single 2500 delivered in their initial delivery. It would be a shame if the FD didn't sell that well as it is a phenomenal reel.
I'm not a Daiwa guy personally but if I were to buy one it would probably be the Certate as it seems to have less issues compared to other Daiwa models.
Ive been informed by a particular retail shop, the price the FE will drop in couple of months.. its just the norm when new models come out
I was told the same thing about the Tranx 150 size but it's price hasn't changed since it came out a little while ago. Will just have to wait and see I guess.
Agree on the aesthetics of the FE, I still think the FD looks much better
100%, I understand the philosophy of a simple design language but I think it is a little too simple. It reminds me a bit of the old FD sienna which was probably the best Sienna model that Shimano ever made
what model of rod did you use for this fishing game?
@florinliviubizu2846 hey mate, I was using a Shimano T Curve Premium 2-5kg. I always list the gear I was using in my video description 🙂
Hi what bait did you use? Thank You
@@Fedex323 I was using a Jackall Junior Pompadour
Great video jordy as always. Great information on the reels. See you on the water old charlie with my feathered friends
Cheers mate! Hopefully see you up at your spot again soon when the weather warms up a bit 🙂
yewwww 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Cya down there
Money aside, if you could only buy one out of the TP FD, TP FE or the Stella FK?
Looking at grabbing a c3000 and am a little stumped. It’s only about $200 difference between each model so (400 between FD and Stella) am thinking for that amount of count I may aswell just go for the FK?
That's a tough question! If money wasn't an issue, I would probably just go with the Stella FK. I've got one in a 2500 size and it's phenomenal.
The TP FE feels remarkably similar in it's smoothness and overall feel. The design language between the 2 reels is very similar as well, to my eye the major difference between them is the colour.
If we throw money back into the equation, the relative slight difference in price means that people end up where you are and consider just splashing the extra on the Stella. If the FE were the same price as the FD then to me it would be a no-brainer to get the FE. But it's not.
Having said that, for the kind of prices that the FD would be going for now that it is discontinued - it's really hard to pass up some of the deals. I'm almost considering searching for another FD for that reason.
I can probably sum it up best like this;
Go the TP FD if you want bulletproof reliability, the better sounding drag and a bargain price
Go the Stella FK if you want the flagship reel with all the bells and whistles
Go the TP FE if you want most of a Stella FK at a slightly discounted price
@@jordythebassist wow, cracking reply mate, truly appreciate it.
My local said they would work out a deal as I’m also chasing a few millerods, one to pair with a newly acquired sustain for bream chasing and the other with a TP/Stella (also looking at some nitro vapours instead)
I’ll see what they can do. If the FD can come down to under 50% of the Stella I’ll go down that path but if not I’ll probably just grab the FK. With that amount of coin it might just be best to invest slightly more.
@DanTheCardMan2 half the price of a Stella is almost impossible to pass on for an FD, hopefully they can make it happen!
@@jordythebassist looks like I can get an FD for around $540 aud. I think that’s a no brainer at this stage. The slow oscillation and the bail arm guide on the FK is pretty cool but not sure if worth forking out the coin for. Can get two FDs for one Stella!
@@DanTheCardMan2 that's a great price and definitely hard to pass on! Check my recent video chasing flathead, I was using mine in that upload. It's a bloody awesome reel 💪
❤❤❤power
X-Braid Shinji X9?
Toray x8 PE1.0
Worth the upgrade vs the FD you think? I can get a FD 1000 for half the price right now, so leaning towards that one.
Half price is an absolute bargain, I'd go the FD at that price.