Wow, I grew up fishing (with spin casters), love it to this day. We always just grabbed the poles and went fishing, and when we needed more line, we bought what was on sale, and went fishing. The fish didn't seem to care what line we had. Fishing line has come a long way.
I've still caught the most fish on a Zebco spincaster because I only used the Zebco as a child and now use it about 1/3 of the time. The spiining reels are taking a long time to catch because I fished all the time as a kid and I don't get to do that today.
I'm 36 and have been fishing since I was 6 and heavily, along with my older brother, Mike, since my summer following the 2nd grade, around 8 or 9 years old. Growing up, one of my best friends would tell people,"... even when no one is catching fish, he is." I am experienced, but still learning. The simple trick you give for the dreaded open-face bird's nest is fantastic! How my life would be different if I understood this sooner. I love fluorocarbon and avoid it at the same time using it really for anything but leaders. It is because of how it behaves when it's brand-new and freshly spooled to a spinning real. Breaking in new fluorocarbon is no longer such a nuisance for me. Thanks, guy.
This is THE MOST USEFUL FISHING VIDEO I'VE EVER SEEN. Those of us whose daddy didn't teach us, this is the kind of stuff we need to know. With that bird's nest tip, you've saved me hours of frustration for my third summer on the lake. Thanks!
I would recommend Richard Gene the Fishing Machine channel to you if you don't already watch it. A wealth of knowledge and down to earth genuine person.
I’ve been fishing for 65 years, using spinning reels and mono line but switched to 15 lb Spiderwire braid a few years ago. It has eliminated the line twist, which was a pain in the butt. Thanks for the tip about hand closing the bail and closing the bail and loosening the drag for birds nest.
I’ve personally done my own testing and this is how it went *10 pound line was used for all testing on the same spinning combo* Casting distance Power pro braid Spider wire braid was second Seguar fluoro third Walmart brand mono was last Tensile strength Spider wire braid Power pro braid Walmart brand mono Seaguar fluoro Abrasion resistance Walmart brand mono Seaguar fluoro Spider wire braid Power pro braid Conclusion: they’re all usable for certain situations, but since I’m a flats fisherman I roll with power pro since it casts nearly 20 feet further than the next closest, and I can let the fish run so that line ain’t breaking
I agree with you I have been fishing for over 60 years and now that I’m retired I fish 5 to 6 days a week several hours a day I have tested every line possible and I am all about 10 lb. power pro moss .green with a Seagar Blue 36 inch 15 lb fluorocarbon leader line for all inshore fishing here in Fl as well as Silver Salmon fishing in Nome Alaska. Because I fish so often I re-spool my line at least once a year.
@@oakd1975 a simple surgeons knot twisted four times and then I use a lighter to burn off the tag end of the floracarbon and I leave about a quarter inch tag on the braid. I recently switched to 8 pound braid.
Hell yeah! Apparently, most of my technique and applications are wrong and yet I always have complete control and balance the entire time, from casting to landing. Like they say, what works for some may not work for others.
I know what a big majority of these comments are about. There are people who don’t want to pay for braid and flouro lines. No one is making you do anything. I am 60 years old and I have fished for about everything in fresh water. I used mono line for many years and as soon as braid and flouro came out I started experimenting with. When those lines first hit the market they gave a lot of problems initially. Over time the companies have gotten better at making these lines and they are much better. I was skeptical about using them but over time I love braid to flouro leader and straight flouro. The braid to flouro is without a doubt my favorite plus in the long run is cheaper than mono. This video is spot on 100% correct!!!!
Another factor when it comes to braided or mono line is the rod. I am mostly spinfishing for pike, so my rod is very stiff. I always fished these rods with mono line, but I also gave braided line a test. This test was a horrorshow to me. On those 3 days of testing, I lost about 80% of my fishes and what I found out was, that the stiff rod and the braid together widened the hole of the hook and so the fishes got unhooked. It seems as if you have to compensate the kinetic energy of the fish, so you its better to take a less stiff rod (maybe with glastipp) togther with the braided line and for stiff rods you better take a mono line. Greetings from germany
If ur lure fishing for pike and going heavy, or even just fishing for them use braid mate. Your stiff rod isnt the problem in the uk we fishing 100+ gram lures on braid and wire leaders zero stretch in the whole rig. Your problem is drag, ur drag isnt set correctly, or ur striking way to hard, also ur hooks shouldnt bend out like that so you need stronger hooks. Only time ur hooks should bend is when ur pulling with a lot of force on a snag to bend the hooks n get ur lure back. If you find that really doesent work for u stick to braid mainline and a long fluroo leader of 150lbs (1mm-1.2mm diameter) that will asborb a little of the shock. Pike are hugely different to bass mate
Even though I have been shore fishing for over forty years and all of my experience has been gained from listening to the "regulars" fishermen at the lakes. Your video as well as other tutorials of this push button digital age have been game changers for me. Fishing has kept me humble as well though. You may one day catch the biggest fish at your local lake and limit out and at your local spot; the next time you go there again and keep everything the same, you'll get skunked. It keeps me from bragging. "God does not deduct from your life, the time which you spend fishing." Thank you for posting.
I agree with everything you have said. I always keep some tension on my line when reeling. I have used not braided and fluorocarbon lines and still do. It depends on what I am fishing with.
Started on spinning reels back in the 60’s as a 4th grader. I used a Mitchell that my dad taught me on. I’m now 64 and love braid. First time out with braid I was floored by the cast-ability. Amazing.
great video and info. wife and i use around $30 reels and i upgraded her rod a little for mothersday last year and i still have a basic one from a $10 spinner / rod combo. I put 30 pound test dark braided on both and we shore fish at a power dam and 35 pound cats are easy to land with those. 45 and up wont break the line but are hard on the drag somewhat. I can put full drag on mine and it will actually still pull the line off slowly. We use steel leaders though due to the huge gar that would otherwise just bite the line in two. We havent went for the 60+ pounders yet. We need upgrades before trying that, lol.
I knew a guy that made his own 8 foot poles out of Calcutta Cane. Big deep sea bait caster reel. His durability test was dragging around a 195/75/14 car tire on the sand. If it didn't break it was ready for the big Cats.
Great tips. The reason I us braid to floro is because when I use straight floro I sometimes get line twist and that ruins your day. Thanks for the tips!
When you spool new fluorocarbon or monofilament line on your reel and it looks real good, then you make a few casts and your lines all twisted. Even when you spool it correctly.
Plus braid has less spool memory. I like the green/dark green braid but will use blue in clear water. Blue almost disappears in clear water. I'd never use a hi vis line. I honestly don't even know why its made. I've had one wind knot in my years of braid and it was because I rushed a cast in a blues/striper blitz. My fault.
Just a tip, i use braid but line twist in mono is caused by 2 things, one is no swivel. And by far the most common is too light of drag. So if you are winding, but if line is coming off your reel every turn of the handle is putting 6 twists in your line. So either don't wind when the fish is taking line, and or increase the drag
@@nodayatthebeach lol I always use high vis, so I can see where it's cast to. The fish never sees it because I use 6 or 7 feet of fluorocarbon leader. Different strokes I suppose
Great Advice “As Always! I’m old school and still learn new information from the channel all the time. That’s why I subscribe to your channel! Thank You!
After 50+ years of fishing, I learned something! When getting the three-line birds nest I always left the bail open, which often results in having to pull out much more line to get to the “clean” line. I’ll try closing the bail and loosening the drag which should give a better result.
Any bird's nest I just get three, four fingers in the middle of it, wiggle em like crazy with the bail closed, very little tension on the hook. Works every time. Just step back slowly.
Nice video!!I fish a lot for pike with baitcaster and spinning reel to.For pike i use moss green braid..Now...i fish also for perch and zander..for this to species i use hi vis yelow because i fish most with light jigheads an i don't always feel on my tip when my lure hit the bottom. Then the hi vis braid help me a lot..for the fact that is hi vis when i fish în clear water i just put a longer fluorocarbon leader..Never had problems...
Great video bro. I sent it to a friend's brother who just started fishing. Your explanation of the bird's nest and how it accurs and how to prevent it was spot on.
I have literally been rocking the same 6' 6" Medium Ugly Stick and Quantum Snap Shot 30 since 2005 lol. That and have always used the cheap 12lb mono from walmart.
Excellent video. I use both spinning and bait casters, but I like spinning better for my smallies. A couple of your tips I wasn't aware of even after 20 years of fishing, so Thanks!!
Thanks for the tip on closing the bail by hand instead of closing it with the reel. could you tell me the difference between fluorocarbon and monofilament line? Which is the best to use on my spinning reel? I use braid with a six foot mono leader on my bait casting reels.
Mono will cast further than fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon is a sinking line, and harder for the fish to see. I prefer to use mostly fluorocarbon line for my fishing applications= Trout.
The birds nest is one of the main reasons I prefer spinning reels with a reverse switch. I think this is even more important when working with those new to fishing. Reversing creates little to no line tension and removes line opposite to how it was put down. If the line happens to hang up on the reel due to the nest reversing tends to reduce the chance of making the issue worse. With that said, loosening the drag is a good solution for reels lacking reverse. A word of caution...loosening a front drag reel one turn too far may result in the spool and cap going in the drink. Make sure it's not completely unscrewed. To this day it still amazes a nest will find a way to form... Experience and technique be "blocked by a beaver". Nice video, thanks for sharing.
That`s why one should keep maintenance up on the reel like cleaning and lubing the drag properly then you can use the drag like it`s run by a computer. Even on my trusty old Zebco 33 the drag works like a charm.
8:11 So, I've always used my non reeling hand's finger to hold a bit of tension on the line right near the reel right as the line hits the end of the cast, click it over, and start reeling.
I have a penn fierce 4 what do you recommend I just fish in fresh water I’m a beginner but I think from what your describing the 10/15 braided line is the way to go especially if you have the remedy for the birds nest
I have 2 spools for my fav spinning reel, the original one wich is loaded with braid, and the second one I bought apart is a shallow spool wich is loaded with fluor, I use different lines for different situations and lures and I'm happy with it
2:40 Sinking braids are available. Some are Lunkerhunt, YGK G-Soul SS112, Spiderwire Ultracast Fluoro-Braid, although it's discontinued. Good video, Tyler.
Like your advice about spinning reels and lines. Wish I had done more research last winter and not just listen to a sales rep when I put braid on my favorite reels. I put 80 lb braid on my heavy reels then found out the maximum drag the reels could handle was just 20 lbs and how hard it is to break 80lb line stuck to the bottom from a kayak. That braid isn't that abrasion resistant, but it will cut my buddy's monofilament line if they cross with fish on. Also braid cut through plastic sinker slides at the beach so I had to adjust for that too. And I hate the sound braid makes running through the rod guides. I'm not giving up on braid for certain fishing, I agree it's good for long distance casting and no stretch needed for certain fish. As you said, pick the best line for the type fishing you're doing and not jump on board with the latest fad.
I cast a mile and a half with 4LB test mono on an Ultralite under 5-foot spinning rod with an 1/8 oz rooster tail and brought 21" catfish in the boat. This a great video all of my birds nest were exactly as described in it. And resolved by those precautions. Thanks
Love the tip about the birds nest. I’ve always left the bale open and pulled my line off the barrel to the side, some times it ends up pulling even more loops of line off and just makes it worse. Thanks!
I remember decades ago when Hank Parker demonstrated his manual bail drop/ line tug when casting. I started doing it then and never have issues with my spinning line! I don't know about what "impacts" casting distance but line weight certainly AFFECTS it!
Man, this is awesome! I just fished in the wind this morning (I caught 9) and messed up several of my reels. This helps me understand. Slack line or line caught in the wind can cause loops in the line.
Great tips, I hope everyone paid attention. I don't use braid or fluorocarbon, I have always used mono on my spinning reels. Just my preference. Old school. Did like the wind knot trick, gonna try when it happens again, someday.
Remember to sing this verse while attempting to remove the wind knot. We call it a “three-liner” snarl and it can virtually put a young man out of action for what seems like a lifetime when fishing. Sing this verse “three- liner babyyyy, three-liner wow” and continue to repeat until you’ve solved the Rubiks cube of spinning reel knots or until you decided to cut your line and take your losses and re-tie, leaving your spool with probably the correct amount of line you should have put on it the first place. Been doing this since I was about 9-10 years old and I can’t prove it actually works or speeds up the process, but can’t prove it doesn’t work either. So……..😂
At the end of 2022 I stepped down to 10 pound braid for spinning gear for first time. I did it more for crappie fishing. But now I'm using it for bass also. Love the distance I'm getting. Light gear for bass is where you can truly test your skills. As long as you're not fishing heavy cover, lots of fun!
Try using six pound line with a light drag if you have a boat or can afford to lose a few lures shore fishing. That is mostly what I use and the lure has more movement and I can cast it farther
I’ve used braided line on my spinning reels for years. I found that soaking the line in warm water for a few hours before spooling it on the reel works pretty good. I use the darkest line I can find. As for backlash, never have had an issue.
How far can you cast braided line with a 'Slow Oscilation' spinning reel vs 'Fast Oscilation' spinning reel? These different designations refer to how the line gets wrapped on the spool. It is said, for far casts using braid, a different wrap pattern is needed in comparison to mono and fluro. Do these different spool wrap patterns affect casting distance for braid, mono, and fluro?
I got a used redish-copper rod with a spinning reel (Quantum Hypercast 2), and with a tackle box and bait 4 years ago from a garage sale. It came with some red Fluorocarbon line already on it, I love the pole and reel, but don't like Fluorocarbon so I'm going to change it for braided line.
Love me some high quality braided line with orvis knots. Used to do the special leaders, and now I just have a braided leader. Might switch back, as I have some high quality flouro line just sitting around for leaders.
I’ve heard great things about the FG knot. I use the double Uni knot and haven’t had it fail me yet. I use it for 10-15 pound braid to 15-20 pound fluro. Catching small/largemouth and striped bass in the Delaware River.
Absolutely go lighter! 6lb seems to be the right size for spinning gear. If the jump from 10 to 6 scares you, go with 7lb test. You'd be surprised how strong it actually is.
@@JuzTheTip, I agree! I don't even use 8lb anymore. Since I no longer fish for money, I use 6 or 7lb most of the time; sometimes, I even go down to 4lb.
Well put video! When I was watching this even tho Ive become a seasoned angler. It was still good to compare the knowledge I pick up from other seasoned anglers. Whats best is that you dont force other anglers to do the samething you do. You let them do what works for them since by the end of the day, the goal is to catch fish
As a steel head, fisherman knowing our fish can get up to 15pounds and more we do generally use high viz. main line with a 10 foot bumper of clear line, mainly fluorocarbon, and then to our bait, I would think that would work with the bass fisherman your thoughts
When I fish vertically for walleyes or pikes I like using fireline ( fused line) with fluocarbon leaders especially in river settings where there's a strong current it cut through water more efficiently in my opinion and have 0 stretch even with a medium fast action rod so you feel even the slightest bites. Otherwise I like braided line with fluocarbon leader. Doing a lot of sea surfcasting I always choose the smallest diameter possible in order to make the longest casts.
@ZyklonBeezy depending on water clarity you want tho be the more stealthy you can be using mono or fluorocarbon helps being less visible. Using a a braid or fuse line as a main line helps feeling the bite or the bottom
I’m just getting started and I like green lo-vis mono. I mean really getting started like 3rd time fishing new. It’s cheap and seems to work well. I understand fluorocarbon and braid are much more expensive.
If you don’t wanna spend a ton, try a polycarbonate line. It’s a mono coated in fluorocarbon and suspends in the water. It also doesn’t stretch that much.
If you're just starting out, I'd recommend staying with 6 or 8lb Trilene XL on spinning gear. If you decide to try braid, try GLISS first. It's a good, low cost, kind of hybrid cross between fluoro and braid. It's smooth and slick like mono or fluoro, but with the strength of multiple fibers of Dyneema. Since it's SO thin, start with 40lb for heavier applications and 18lb or 24lb for lighter ones at first.
Great video! Just what I needed. I switched to spinning for all my fishing and use charcoal braid/10# fluoro leader. I have to see the line on the water surface tension, but it works.
I fish only spinning reels. I know I know but that's what I like. What braid do you recommend that would be equivalent to fishing 12lb mono? Type, test, color.... Long time watcher. Keep up the great work!!!!
Thanks all for the replies! Really appreciate the tips. I have a casting newbie question. Been geeking out all over UA-cam watching different videos about casting techniques. The best way seems to be to use the flex of the rod to slingshot the bait and cast farther away. However, most of my fishing is with a bobber/swivel/snell setup so I end up with a long line of stuff even with the bobber touching the tip of the rod. Whenever I try to slingshot either I get it all bird's nested or end up casting sideways and usually getting into a tree or something. Any tips for casting farther away with a long line? I know I am doing it wrong right now as I don't cast very far away.
@@shadygraves Thanks! That makes sense. I plan on buying a 13 fishing 7 foot rod in the next months with a Penn Fierce III 4000 reel, although I planned to use that for bass fishing setup. I may upgrade my rod eventually. But thanks that makes a lot of sense.
A really good option is pink line to have a high visibility above water and low visibility under water. That’s why I use Finns braid, comes in pink and they do t splice their spectra fibers when making their line.
Have fun throwing your money away on meme fluorocarbon leader. Monofilament works just as good and costs half the price. I'm not gonna spend $15+ on leader just so a big saltwater game fish and fray my leader not only that but we use 3-4 feet of leader typically.
I also found that 10 lb. test braid is best on all of my spinning reels for cast ability and ease of handling. That is a great tip for all spinning techniques. Heavier line is just not necessary. 10 lb. braid to 6-8 lb. flouro works best for me. In heavier cover situations I go up to a 10 lb. leader.
Maybe I'll step it down myself this year. I fish allot of real weedy ponds for big bass and always use 20# braid to a 15# florocarbon leader (fg knot).
Tyler, great video, you just saved my day. I have had this happen a few times especially right when I start fishing and end up missing a good time to catch a nice size fish. I end up missing, because of this miserable situation..thanks for the video, I think you should have over 150k subscribers, folks need to be watching you. David
Thanks for this tips. This is exactly what I'm doing wrong. I have loops in the spinning reel. I was unaware that my line has a slack until I noticed that it wont reel in anymore.
I use braid line on my cat fishing / big game fish pole, but flouro carbon leaders, for my lightweight pole I use fluoro carbon I don't have much of a preference though, braid is harder to tie fs tho
informative video.i fish mostly salt water and i like braided line for it's strength . 15 lb braid will have the same diameter as six lb florocarbon. it affords me more line on the spool and more strength just in case the big one comes along. that may wind up being a ray or bluefish.i like the bright colors like red or blue because the surf or boat might have a lot of other fisherman close to me and the colors help me distinquish my line from the other fisherman .i do use a leader of florocarbon because its invisible and you do need a little stretch.
I’ve heard for years that fluorocarbon has low or no stretch. My personal experience with Vanish and Trilene fluorocarbons is that they stretch like a rubber band.
What about when my braid dries after fishing then it spins freely on my reel. When I start fishing I have to cast my spinning rod out as far as I can un pull slack until my braid finally catches. Usually about 75% of my line is out at that time. What am I doing wrong?
A tiny little piece of electrical tape is the best way to go. Tie your spool knot the just tape it down to the center of the spool. This will stop the line from spinning free without the need for backing or the casting snags that can be caused by a superfluous backing knot.
Been fishing spinning reels since the early 80s with a gifted Mitchell 300, they certainly have come a long way. I probably have at least two dozen + spinning reels. A goodly share of Shimano reels mostly spooled with 4 or 6lb test Berkeley Trilene low-vis green, but that's what I have confidence in as it has served me well over the years, although I have used some fluoro leaders past ten or so years. What did we do without it. I'll give that bird's nest pull a try... I've already eliminated most of the bird's nest' by keeping an eye on that business of closing the spool by hand instead of by crank. Something you really have to pay attention to taking up slack. On occasion that complacent bird's nest just seems to pop up out of nowhere. I'll give your tip a try! Thanks.
I got some gnarly wind knots/bird nests on one of my spinning reels yesterday. First time it's ever happened to me. I figured out what was causing it though, I was trying to use a jerk bait on it, and the jerking and me reeling while the line was kind of slack was making it spool weird. Then I'd cast and get a couple really bad knots in the line that I had to pick out. One I had to cut probably 20ft of line off. That's when I learned that jerk baits and spinning reels with braid don't mix well.
Always go with a spinning reel that has a wider gap for the string wind area front to back. Most of these will look like they don’t hold a lot of line but that’s a good thing because most line becomes brittle and hard to cast because of reel memory anyway before you can use that much excess line. Most all reels come with 2-spools so keeping an extra is always a good thing. I never use more than 8lb. Line for every species, and I’ve caught everything from 17-20 in hi-Bred’s, to trout and bluegill and I’ve always been able to long cast, and still feel the bite setting the hook every time. Always use a high abrasion line. And Shimano reels, No matter how cheap has never let me down. You can’t go wrong with a Shimano. Also, one very important thing I’ve found is that if I pick a med. action rod no taller than my height, I can cast it anywhere, including a tin can accurately. So use (your height) to determine rod length for your best performance. I hope this helps someone.
.... if i used 8 lb test for the fishing i do id rarely ever bring in a fish.... mainly catfishing for channel and flatheads around 20 to 30 lbs but on occasion i hook a real big one
@@jerryodom7358 I've never had a hybrid put up the same kind of fight not that i fished for them often don't find them where i live …. not saying a cat pulls/fights harder but its a different fight you cant use the same methods for every situation it doesn't always work its like a guy i saw say the Palomar knot is the only knot you need which is wrong its a great one but it doesn't work for every situation
@@raveousone I agree in most cases. But if I didn’t have a rod for cat fishing, I would fish confident with this. I’m not fishing for food supply, just the enjoyment of the catch.
What I would like to know is, is it possible to get braid line put on your reel if it is not braid ready? I asked this question once before when someone was doing a giveaway for a reel, and said that it was braid ready. I wasn't aware that it had to be, so I asked. That person told me that if it's not braid ready, that the line on the spool will spin because it can't grip the reel. I didn't ask, but I was wondering if there was a way to anchor it on, or tape it on somehow, or make something on the spool surface so that it grips the line, I'm just wondering if I can use braid only on my non-braid ready reels. If there is a way to do that, I don't see why I would need to go out and get a braid ready one. The other thing was, adding the leader lines (fluorocarbon or monofilament). In your opinion, is it better to tie the two together, or possibly using a small barrel swivel and tying the two lines to both ends? Any info that you can give me on that would be greatly appreciated. I may have more questions when I'm finished watching. This is the second time I'm watching it. Keep my teacher like this, and I should be expert in no time! LOL God bless!
I just picked up a Lews Reactor series speed series rod and reel combo I am using braid on that combo and using 25lb Reaction Tackle and it casts FAR! its amazing first spinning rod I have braid on and its a game changer.
I'm going to Wisconsin early June for small mouth. Would I be ok with braid to leader or should I go to straight floro? I've been wondering about this with all that clear water.
i pretty much only target catfish nowadays. im disabled. i have nerve damage and limited range of motion in my left hand/wrist which i use to retrieve ven though i am right handed. for that reason i put waaaay too big a reel on most of my rods and until this year i never ran braid. now i am switching most of my 12 rods over to braid and every one i use circle hooks of varying sizes. one of my favorite "combos" is a zebco dock demon 2.5' rod with a penn pursuit4 4000 with 30lb braid and a 6/0 circle hook. i love the reactions i get from people when they see me land cats over 10lbs with it. for giggles i have another dock demon with a penn pursuit4 6000 with 80lb braid and a 8/0 circle hook.
for the first tip, i love my braid to 1.5m fluro leader. i throw 5gram plastics for trout and they love it too. distance and accuracy is so much better (for me) with braid.
Just call me old fashioned when it comes to me fishing. I use plain ol' Trilene monofilament, either XL or XT. I use clear or low vis green line. I've used spincast reels when I was younger. Good ol Zebco 33s, 202s, 404s, etc. I now use spinning reels for all sorts of fishing, but I'll use the trusty ol spincast every once in a while. I use a Zebco 888 setup for catfishing, but it doesn't get used often. I don't think I'll ever get to use braided line. I've used fluorocarbon a time or two, but it sinks too fast for me. I like a little bit of a slow drop when I use soft bait or live bait.
I use 15lb braided to 10-12lb mono for walleye and bass.. sometimes regular line for spinners. Haven't changed the line in 4yrs. For trout I would use floating braided 8lb and 4-6 to 8lbs mono. I can watch when I get a hiy bc the braided line sinks
Switched to braided line years ago I only have one spinning reel and I don't use it for bass it is strictly a walleye rod. And if casting with it I will hand close the bail then I pull out line against the drag to prevent those loops. Loading the spool will also cause those bird best if you allow the line to twist when loading not as bad with the braid lines but still watch and make sure the line isn't twisting as it goes on the reel.
I use Bright braided lines, but i also use long FC leaders. At least 3ft long. Then the fish wont get spooked so easy. ☺ if the fish is really spooky i might use up to 8 ft long leaders. I lose a bit of the sensetivity from the braid with that long leaders but not to bad. ☺
@@eviseratorkyle yea if im fishing searun brown in clear water i might use that long leaders, but it is like once a year i might need that long leaders, i have not noticed any difference between 8ft or 12ft, no difference at all. So i se no point of using that long leaders. I usually fish for pike and have 1mm thick leaders so using longer leaders then 5ft is a pain in the ass. And where i fish there are not to many people fishing so they dont get spooked that easy, so 3-4ft is usually what i use.
@danielostman5805 nice I love me some pike. I never tested for a difference, I just prefer the connecting knot to be spooled a little I don't use anything less than 20 bass fishing because we have alot of pike
Re: reeling with abit of tension to avoid wind knots - an easy way to do this is simply extend your index finger on the hand that is holding the rod so that as the reel bail turns, the line will contact your finger each time. This little bit of contact on each turn of the reel will put just a slight amount of tension on your line as it is retrieved back onto the spool. Do this & it will become automatic, just like manually closing your bail is/should be. I don't even think about doing it, I just DO, and I NEVER get wind knots on my spinning reels like I did many years ago before learning & implementating this technique. Hope this helps!
Most people typically just learn these small problems over the years of fishing. Personally my favorite line is Stren Original. I really like the florescent blue and as the line ages the line becomes more limp and easier to use.
KVD uses braid and spinning rods almost exclusively and his tip with braid is to black out the 2 or 3 feet nearest the bait with a sharpie marker. Thanks Kev! I've been doing it for years and it works great.
I use braid when im fishing weeds and around structure when fishing plastics. I also use braid on my pike reels. The leader you use is a metal wire so you don't need a mono or fluorocarbon leader.
I actually prefer it when the season bleaches the color out of my braid, the lighter the better. I fish pike and smallies, and I'm pretty sure they both have very keen eyesight. Of course, the water I tend to fish is maybe clear in comparison to the largemouth bass inhabits.
Helpful video, especially birds nests (how to avoid them), this would apply on many types of reels (excluding any that are hunting specific things off shore, that's a different ball park).
Wow, I grew up fishing (with spin casters), love it to this day. We always just grabbed the poles and went fishing, and when we needed more line, we bought what was on sale, and went fishing. The fish didn't seem to care what line we had. Fishing line has come a long way.
I've still caught the most fish on a Zebco spincaster because I only used the Zebco as a child and now use it about 1/3 of the time. The spiining reels are taking a long time to catch because I fished all the time as a kid and I don't get to do that today.
@@FrankLadd A A
Fish still dont care about the line lol ive use so many kinds of line in 25 years of fishing and ive always caught fish.
@@oveson88
Try fishing for trout with 10+lb fluoro, they’ll care. I have the most success with 4lb mono
AMEN BROTHER!!! I thought the same thing when I watched this video
I'm 36 and have been fishing since I was 6 and heavily, along with my older brother, Mike, since my summer following the 2nd grade, around 8 or 9 years old. Growing up, one of my best friends would tell people,"... even when no one is catching fish, he is." I am experienced, but still learning. The simple trick you give for the dreaded open-face bird's nest is fantastic! How my life would be different if I understood this sooner. I love fluorocarbon and avoid it at the same time using it really for anything but leaders. It is because of how it behaves when it's brand-new and freshly spooled to a spinning real. Breaking in new fluorocarbon is no longer such a nuisance for me. Thanks, guy.
Tell us your ss# while you're at it..😬
This is THE MOST USEFUL FISHING VIDEO I'VE EVER SEEN. Those of us whose daddy didn't teach us, this is the kind of stuff we need to know. With that bird's nest tip, you've saved me hours of frustration for my third summer on the lake. Thanks!
I would recommend Richard Gene the Fishing Machine channel to you if you don't already watch it. A wealth of knowledge and down to earth genuine person.
I’ve been fishing for 65 years, using spinning reels and mono line but switched to 15 lb Spiderwire braid a few years ago. It has eliminated the line twist, which was a pain in the butt. Thanks for the tip about hand closing the bail and closing the bail and loosening the drag for birds nest.
I’ve personally done my own testing and this is how it went *10 pound line was used for all testing on the same spinning combo*
Casting distance
Power pro braid
Spider wire braid was second
Seguar fluoro third
Walmart brand mono was last
Tensile strength
Spider wire braid
Power pro braid
Walmart brand mono
Seaguar fluoro
Abrasion resistance
Walmart brand mono
Seaguar fluoro
Spider wire braid
Power pro braid
Conclusion: they’re all usable for certain situations, but since I’m a flats fisherman I roll with power pro since it casts nearly 20 feet further than the next closest, and I can let the fish run so that line ain’t breaking
I love power pro I use 5lb and 10lb on everything i fish with.
I agree with you I have been fishing for over 60 years and now that I’m retired I fish 5 to 6 days a week several hours a day I have tested every line possible and I am all about 10 lb. power pro moss .green with a Seagar Blue 36 inch 15 lb fluorocarbon leader line for all inshore fishing here in Fl as well as Silver Salmon fishing in Nome Alaska. Because I fish so often I re-spool my line at least once a year.
@@donnastormer9652which knots do you use?
@@oakd1975 a simple surgeons knot twisted four times and then I use a lighter to burn off the tag end of the floracarbon and I leave about a quarter inch tag on the braid. I recently switched to 8 pound braid.
@@donnastormer9652 What
"Do what is good for you." Every time i do that there's a video that tells me NOT to do that!
That’s friggin hilarious. It’s funny because it’s true.
@@johnmaynes7142 Brother it's the damn truth. but i still loves to fish!!!
Hell yeah! Apparently, most of my technique and applications are wrong and yet I always have complete control and balance the entire time, from casting to landing. Like they say, what works for some may not work for others.
@@johnmaynes7142Sounds kind of like me.... i do try to make everything work.
@@gewglesux If it works, it can’t be wrong or stupid.
I know what a big majority of these comments are about. There are people who don’t want to pay for braid and flouro lines. No one is making you do anything. I am 60 years old and I have fished for about everything in fresh water. I used mono line for many years and as soon as braid and flouro came out I started experimenting with. When those lines first hit the market they gave a lot of problems initially. Over time the companies have gotten better at making these lines and they are much better. I was skeptical about using them but over time I love braid to flouro leader and straight flouro. The braid to flouro is without a doubt my favorite plus in the long run is cheaper than mono. This video is spot on 100% correct!!!!
Why braid to flouro as opposed to mono? I am all aboard the braid train for many years now, but haven't used flouro outside of fly fishing much.
Another factor when it comes to braided or mono line is the rod. I am mostly spinfishing for pike, so my rod is very stiff. I always fished these rods with mono line, but I also gave braided line a test. This test was a horrorshow to me. On those 3 days of testing, I lost about 80% of my fishes and what I found out was, that the stiff rod and the braid together widened the hole of the hook and so the fishes got unhooked. It seems as if you have to compensate the kinetic energy of the fish, so you its better to take a less stiff rod (maybe with glastipp) togther with the braided line and for stiff rods you better take a mono line. Greetings from germany
Use a monofilament leader. It will absorb the shock.
what Joe said, mono leader fixes that issue, I've had the same thing happen and use a 5-10ft mono leader ocean fishing off a boat using braid
In my experience I also losen drag a little bit and find that sweet spot so the shock gets absorbed but in the same time keep enough tension.
@@Joe-bh4vz a mono leader for pike?? Thats clever way to get bit off. Either wire or 150lb fluoro fishing for pike
If ur lure fishing for pike and going heavy, or even just fishing for them use braid mate. Your stiff rod isnt the problem in the uk we fishing 100+ gram lures on braid and wire leaders zero stretch in the whole rig. Your problem is drag, ur drag isnt set correctly, or ur striking way to hard, also ur hooks shouldnt bend out like that so you need stronger hooks. Only time ur hooks should bend is when ur pulling with a lot of force on a snag to bend the hooks n get ur lure back. If you find that really doesent work for u stick to braid mainline and a long fluroo leader of 150lbs (1mm-1.2mm diameter) that will asborb a little of the shock. Pike are hugely different to bass mate
Even though I have been shore fishing for over forty years and all of my experience has been gained from listening to the "regulars" fishermen at the lakes. Your video as well as other tutorials of this push button digital age have been game changers for me. Fishing has kept me humble as well though. You may one day catch the biggest fish at your local lake and limit out and at your local spot; the next time you go there again and keep everything the same, you'll get skunked. It keeps me from bragging. "God does not deduct from your life, the time which you spend fishing." Thank you for posting.
I agree with everything you have said. I always keep some tension on my line when reeling. I have used not braided and fluorocarbon lines and still do. It depends on what I am fishing with.
That's why I like spinning reels more, I feel it keeps tension better, less slack line
Started on spinning reels back in the 60’s as a 4th grader. I used a Mitchell that my dad taught me on. I’m now 64 and love braid. First time out with braid I was floored by the cast-ability. Amazing.
70 same story, Still have my first 308 & 350. Braid is for backing ! You say it works. I am going to give it a try. Well said, Thanks
I appreciate you gentlemen watching the channel. My dad started me out with a Mitchell as well in grade school but that was in the mid 90s lol
great video and info. wife and i use around $30 reels and i upgraded her rod a little for mothersday last year and i still have a basic one from a $10 spinner / rod combo. I put 30 pound test dark braided on both and we shore fish at a power dam and 35 pound cats are easy to land with those. 45 and up wont break the line but are hard on the drag somewhat. I can put full drag on mine and it will actually still pull the line off slowly. We use steel leaders though due to the huge gar that would otherwise just bite the line in two. We havent went for the 60+ pounders yet. We need upgrades before trying that, lol.
I knew a guy that made his own 8 foot poles out of Calcutta Cane. Big deep sea bait caster reel. His durability test was dragging around a 195/75/14 car tire on the sand. If it didn't break it was ready for the big Cats.
Great tips. The reason I us braid to floro is because when I use straight floro I sometimes get line twist and that ruins your day. Thanks for the tips!
What's Line twist 🤔
When you spool new fluorocarbon or monofilament line on your reel and it looks real good, then you make a few casts and your lines all twisted. Even when you spool it correctly.
Plus braid has less spool memory. I like the green/dark green braid but will use blue in clear water. Blue almost disappears in clear water. I'd never use a hi vis line. I honestly don't even know why its made. I've had one wind knot in my years of braid and it was because I rushed a cast in a blues/striper blitz. My fault.
Just a tip, i use braid but line twist in mono is caused by 2 things, one is no swivel. And by far the most common is too light of drag. So if you are winding, but if line is coming off your reel every turn of the handle is putting 6 twists in your line. So either don't wind when the fish is taking line, and or increase the drag
@@nodayatthebeach lol I always use high vis, so I can see where it's cast to. The fish never sees it because I use 6 or 7 feet of fluorocarbon leader. Different strokes I suppose
Great Advice “As Always! I’m old school and still learn new information from the channel all the time. That’s why I subscribe to your channel! Thank You!
After 50+ years of fishing, I learned something! When getting the three-line birds nest I always left the bail open, which often results in having to pull out much more line to get to the “clean” line. I’ll try closing the bail and loosening the drag which should give a better result.
This was my favorite tip too!
Any bird's nest I just get three, four fingers in the middle of it, wiggle em like crazy with the bail closed, very little tension on the hook. Works every time. Just step back slowly.
Nice video!!I fish a lot for pike with baitcaster and spinning reel to.For pike i use moss green braid..Now...i fish also for perch and zander..for this to species i use hi vis yelow because i fish most with light jigheads an i don't always feel on my tip when my lure hit the bottom. Then the hi vis braid help me a lot..for the fact that is hi vis when i fish în clear water i just put a longer fluorocarbon leader..Never had problems...
Bang on
One of the most helpful videos I’ve ever watched on using a spinning reel! Many thanks.
Great video bro.
I sent it to a friend's brother who just started fishing.
Your explanation of the bird's nest and how it accurs and how to prevent it was spot on.
I have literally been rocking the same 6' 6" Medium Ugly Stick and Quantum Snap Shot 30 since 2005 lol. That and have always used the cheap 12lb mono from walmart.
I love my Ugly Stick and don't use anything else especially the newer versions.
I found this verry helpful I am a very casual fisherman and the loop problem has driven me crazy. Thanks for these tips
Excellent video. I use both spinning and bait casters, but I like spinning better for my smallies. A couple of your tips I wasn't aware of even after 20 years of fishing, so Thanks!!
Thanks for the tip on closing the bail by hand instead of closing it with the reel. could you tell me the difference between fluorocarbon and monofilament line? Which is the best to use on my spinning reel? I use braid with a six foot mono leader on my bait casting reels.
Mono will cast further than fluorocarbon. Fluorocarbon is a sinking line, and harder for the fish to see. I prefer to use mostly fluorocarbon line for my fishing applications= Trout.
Power Pro braid is my go to!!!!!!
The super slick is top strength rated!!! Got it in 20lb low viz green, amazing line!
The birds nest is one of the main reasons I prefer spinning reels with a reverse switch. I think this is even more important when working with those new to fishing.
Reversing creates little to no line tension and removes line opposite to how it was put down. If the line happens to hang up on the reel due to the nest reversing tends to reduce the chance of making the issue worse.
With that said, loosening the drag is a good solution for reels lacking reverse. A word of caution...loosening a front drag reel one turn too far may result in the spool and cap going in the drink. Make sure it's not completely unscrewed.
To this day it still amazes a nest will find a way to form... Experience and technique be "blocked by a beaver".
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
That`s why one should keep maintenance up on the reel like cleaning and lubing the drag properly then you can use the drag like it`s run by a computer. Even on my trusty old Zebco 33 the drag works like a charm.
lol
8:11 So, I've always used my non reeling hand's finger to hold a bit of tension on the line right near the reel right as the line hits the end of the cast, click it over, and start reeling.
I have a penn fierce 4 what do you recommend I just fish in fresh water I’m a beginner but I think from what your describing the 10/15 braided line is the way to go especially if you have the remedy for the birds nest
I have 2 spools for my fav spinning reel, the original one wich is loaded with braid, and the second one I bought apart is a shallow spool wich is loaded with fluor, I use different lines for different situations and lures and I'm happy with it
2:40 Sinking braids are available. Some are Lunkerhunt, YGK G-Soul SS112, Spiderwire Ultracast Fluoro-Braid, although it's discontinued. Good video, Tyler.
Great video, I almost exclusively use Suffix 832 braid in dark green on my spinning reels and have really good success in both fresh and saltwater.
Like your advice about spinning reels and lines. Wish I had done more research last winter and not just listen to a sales rep when I put braid on my favorite reels. I put 80 lb braid on my heavy reels then found out the maximum drag the reels could handle was just 20 lbs and how hard it is to break 80lb line stuck to the bottom from a kayak. That braid isn't that abrasion resistant, but it will cut my buddy's monofilament line if they cross with fish on. Also braid cut through plastic sinker slides at the beach so I had to adjust for that too. And I hate the sound braid makes running through the rod guides. I'm not giving up on braid for certain fishing, I agree it's good for long distance casting and no stretch needed for certain fish. As you said, pick the best line for the type fishing you're doing and not jump on board with the latest fad.
Wrap your line around the kayak paddle and pull it with that next time. It will save wear and tear on you rod and keep it from possibly breaking.
I cast a mile and a half with 4LB test mono on an Ultralite under 5-foot spinning rod with an 1/8 oz rooster tail and brought 21" catfish in the boat. This a great video all of my birds nest were exactly as described in it. And resolved by those precautions. Thanks
Love the tip about the birds nest. I’ve always left the bale open and pulled my line off the barrel to the side, some times it ends up pulling even more loops of line off and just makes it worse. Thanks!
I remember decades ago when Hank Parker demonstrated his manual bail drop/ line tug when casting. I started doing it then and never have issues with my spinning line! I don't know about what "impacts" casting distance but line weight certainly AFFECTS it!
A lot of spinning reels have a removable bail trip. It’s really important to have when casting heavy weight.
It`s the size of the eyes that makes the cast. most rods these days have too small of rear eyes and don`t allow for good casting distance.
Man, this is awesome! I just fished in the wind this morning (I caught 9) and messed up several of my reels. This helps me understand. Slack line or line caught in the wind can cause loops in the line.
Great tips, I hope everyone paid attention. I don't use braid or fluorocarbon, I have always used mono on my spinning reels. Just my preference. Old school. Did like the wind knot trick, gonna try when it happens again, someday.
Each has it's place/use, but I agree; mono is HIGHLY overlooked and under-utilzed by younger anglers. 6lb Trilene XL is great on a spinning reel!
Remember to sing this verse while attempting to remove the wind knot. We call it a “three-liner” snarl and it can virtually put a young man out of action for what seems like a lifetime when fishing. Sing this verse “three- liner babyyyy, three-liner wow” and continue to repeat until you’ve solved the Rubiks cube of spinning reel knots or until you decided to cut your line and take your losses and re-tie, leaving your spool with probably the correct amount of line you should have put on it the first place. Been doing this since I was about 9-10 years old and I can’t prove it actually works or speeds up the process, but can’t prove it doesn’t work either. So……..😂
At the end of 2022 I stepped down to 10 pound braid for spinning gear for first time. I did it more for crappie fishing. But now I'm using it for bass also. Love the distance I'm getting. Light gear for bass is where you can truly test your skills. As long as you're not fishing heavy cover, lots of fun!
Try using six pound line with a light drag if you have a boat or can afford to lose a few lures shore fishing. That is mostly what I use and the lure has more movement and I can cast it farther
I’ve used braided line on my spinning reels for years. I found that soaking the line in warm water for a few hours before spooling it on the reel works pretty good. I use the darkest line I can find. As for backlash, never have had an issue.
what's soaking in warm water supposed to help?
@@Jeff-ve1bu tighter spooling, keeps the line from slipping, helps with knots too if you dip the end before tying the lure.
@@Jeff-ve1bu
It loosens the the lines memory for the time its been in the box.
Try it...
It works everytime
You let it dry or spool it on wet
How far can you cast braided line with a 'Slow Oscilation' spinning reel vs 'Fast Oscilation' spinning reel?
These different designations refer to how the line gets wrapped on the spool. It is said, for far casts using braid, a different wrap pattern is needed in comparison to mono and fluro.
Do these different spool wrap patterns affect casting distance for braid, mono, and fluro?
I got a used redish-copper rod with a spinning reel (Quantum Hypercast 2), and with a tackle box and bait 4 years ago from a garage sale. It came with some red Fluorocarbon line already on it, I love the pole and reel, but don't like Fluorocarbon so I'm going to change it for braided line.
Love me some high quality braided line with orvis knots. Used to do the special leaders, and now I just have a braided leader. Might switch back, as I have some high quality flouro line just sitting around for leaders.
What knot do you use to tie flouro to braid? I use the double uni but sometimes it just doesn’t hold well.
I’ve heard great things about the FG knot. I use the double Uni knot and haven’t had it fail me yet. I use it for 10-15 pound braid to 15-20 pound fluro. Catching small/largemouth and striped bass in the Delaware River.
So to avoid that backlash, you say cast line, then manually close bail before reeling, is the correct?
Yes
When having a braid to flouro leader, is it ok to use a barrel swivel?
I always have problems with straight fluro.i usually go with 10lb do you feel I need to go lighter to alleviate any issues?
I think 10 on a bass rod can be too much. There will be a difference even going to 8. But I definitely prefer braid to fluoro whenever possible
I have no issues fishing straight flouro on my spinning setups.. I use 8lb at the highest tho
Absolutely go lighter! 6lb seems to be the right size for spinning gear. If the jump from 10 to 6 scares you, go with 7lb test. You'd be surprised how strong it actually is.
@@JuzTheTip, I agree! I don't even use 8lb anymore. Since I no longer fish for money, I use 6 or 7lb most of the time; sometimes, I even go down to 4lb.
Well put video! When I was watching this even tho Ive become a seasoned angler. It was still good to compare the knowledge I pick up from other seasoned anglers.
Whats best is that you dont force other anglers to do the samething you do. You let them do what works for them since by the end of the day, the goal is to catch fish
Hey Tyler what are your thoughts on the new Inu rig from Japan?
Great tips on line tension and line diameter! Thank you from someone that has been fishing for 35 yrs!
As a steel head, fisherman knowing our fish can get up to 15pounds and more we do generally use high viz. main line with a 10 foot bumper of clear line, mainly fluorocarbon, and then to our bait, I would think that would work with the bass fisherman your thoughts
Insert edit: “…and it could scare them or make them less likely to bite your lure.” I’m gonna use that technique. Love it and love this video.
When I fish vertically for walleyes or pikes I like using fireline ( fused line) with fluocarbon leaders especially in river settings where there's a strong current it cut through water more efficiently in my opinion and have 0 stretch even with a medium fast action rod so you feel even the slightest bites. Otherwise I like braided line with fluocarbon leader. Doing a lot of sea surfcasting I always choose the smallest diameter possible in order to make the longest casts.
@ZyklonBeezy depending on water clarity you want tho be the more stealthy you can be using mono or fluorocarbon helps being less visible. Using a a braid or fuse line as a main line helps feeling the bite or the bottom
I’m just getting started and I like green lo-vis mono. I mean really getting started like 3rd time fishing new. It’s cheap and seems to work well. I understand fluorocarbon and braid are much more expensive.
Fluorocarbon and braid last a lot longer than mono.
Take a look at Trilene sensation.
If you don’t wanna spend a ton, try a polycarbonate line. It’s a mono coated in fluorocarbon and suspends in the water. It also doesn’t stretch that much.
If you're just starting out, I'd recommend staying with 6 or 8lb Trilene XL on spinning gear. If you decide to try braid, try GLISS first. It's a good, low cost, kind of hybrid cross between fluoro and braid. It's smooth and slick like mono or fluoro, but with the strength of multiple fibers of Dyneema. Since it's SO thin, start with 40lb for heavier applications and 18lb or 24lb for lighter ones at first.
@@shadygraves I am using Sufix Promix mono how good is that?
Great video! Just what I needed. I switched to spinning for all my fishing and use charcoal braid/10# fluoro leader. I have to see the line on the water surface tension, but it works.
I miss the old
"Silver Thread Line!"
I fish only spinning reels. I know I know but that's what I like. What braid do you recommend that would be equivalent to fishing 12lb mono? Type, test, color....
Long time watcher. Keep up the great work!!!!
In South Africa we mostly use grinder - spinning reels for saltwater use and 8x braid is a must with a fluorocarbon leader or shock leader ...
Thanks all for the replies! Really appreciate the tips. I have a casting newbie question. Been geeking out all over UA-cam watching different videos about casting techniques. The best way seems to be to use the flex of the rod to slingshot the bait and cast farther away. However, most of my fishing is with a bobber/swivel/snell setup so I end up with a long line of stuff even with the bobber touching the tip of the rod. Whenever I try to slingshot either I get it all bird's nested or end up casting sideways and usually getting into a tree or something. Any tips for casting farther away with a long line? I know I am doing it wrong right now as I don't cast very far away.
My advice is use a longer spinning rod. A 7'-8' Medium Action spinning rig should suit you best!
@@shadygraves Thanks! That makes sense. I plan on buying a 13 fishing 7 foot rod in the next months with a Penn Fierce III 4000 reel, although I planned to use that for bass fishing setup. I may upgrade my rod eventually. But thanks that makes a lot of sense.
@@toadiscoil Maybe try using a slip bobber so you can reel it up further
@@adamsewell8125 Thanks! I did discover slip bobbers afterwards and that's what I am using now :)
@@toadiscoil 4000 reel on a 7ft rod….. I wouldn’t put a big heavy reel like that on a 7ft rod , I don’t go bigger than 3000 , but that’s just me
Thank you for this info, I usually don't use braid on my spinning reels but with this info I will be trying it.
I don’t use anything else ……
What knot are you using to connect your braid to flouro? How long is your fluorocarbon leader?
Albright knot 6 feet for me
I prefer broad to Fluro but I have issues with some rods with small eyes braking my knots.
A really good option is pink line to have a high visibility above water and low visibility under water. That’s why I use Finns braid, comes in pink and they do t splice their spectra fibers when making their line.
Braid to fluro all day
What knot do you use to secure them together?
@@jasondadudetoo4176 uni to uni works good
Have fun throwing your money away on meme fluorocarbon leader. Monofilament works just as good and costs half the price. I'm not gonna spend $15+ on leader just so a big saltwater game fish and fray my leader not only that but we use 3-4 feet of leader typically.
@@FishingFloridaWater i get mine for free
@@jonathanmorgan1331 👍
I also found that 10 lb. test braid is best on all of my spinning reels for cast ability and ease of handling. That is a great tip for all spinning techniques. Heavier line is just not necessary. 10 lb. braid to 6-8 lb. flouro works best for me. In heavier cover situations I go up to a 10 lb. leader.
Maybe I'll step it down myself this year. I fish allot of real weedy ponds for big bass and always use 20# braid to a 15# florocarbon leader (fg knot).
For freshwater maybe, goodluck with 10lb line out on the ocean
@Mavsav
Obviously for fresh water fishing...
Tyler, great video, you just saved my day. I have had this happen a few times especially right when I start fishing and end up missing a good time to catch a nice size fish. I end up missing, because of this miserable situation..thanks for the video, I think you should have over 150k subscribers, folks need to be watching you. David
Thanks for this tips. This is exactly what I'm doing wrong. I have loops in the spinning reel. I was unaware that my line has a slack until I noticed that it wont reel in anymore.
I use braid line on my cat fishing / big game fish pole, but flouro carbon leaders, for my lightweight pole I use fluoro carbon I don't have much of a preference though, braid is harder to tie fs tho
At the end of the video when talking about pound test are you referring to actual pound test or mono equivalent?
informative video.i fish mostly salt water and i like braided line for it's strength . 15 lb braid will have the same diameter as six lb florocarbon. it affords me more line on the spool and more strength just in case the big one comes along. that may wind up being a ray or bluefish.i like the bright colors like red or blue because the surf or boat might have a lot of other fisherman close to me and the colors help me distinquish my line from the other fisherman .i do use a leader of florocarbon because its invisible and you do need a little stretch.
I’ve heard for years that fluorocarbon has low or no stretch. My personal experience with Vanish and Trilene fluorocarbons is that they stretch like a rubber band.
What about when my braid dries after fishing then it spins freely on my reel. When I start fishing I have to cast my spinning rod out as far as I can un pull slack until my braid finally catches. Usually about 75% of my line is out at that time. What am I doing wrong?
Need to put a little backing of mono on first then the braid so It doesn't slip
@@mikeantes9597 I was thinking that but absolutely despise doing it. May try tape first
@@DjChaz904 either of those should work. That is what I do
Backing is the best way.. Don't need alot just a few feet. It'll never even see the water
A tiny little piece of electrical tape is the best way to go. Tie your spool knot the just tape it down to the center of the spool. This will stop the line from spinning free without the need for backing or the casting snags that can be caused by a superfluous backing knot.
Been fishing spinning reels since the early 80s with a gifted Mitchell 300, they certainly have come a long way. I probably have at least two dozen + spinning reels. A goodly share of Shimano reels mostly spooled with 4 or 6lb test Berkeley Trilene low-vis green, but that's what I have confidence in as it has served me well over the years, although I have used some fluoro leaders past ten or so years. What did we do without it.
I'll give that bird's nest pull a try... I've already eliminated most of the bird's nest' by keeping an eye on that business of closing the spool by hand instead of by crank. Something you really have to pay attention to taking up slack. On occasion that complacent bird's nest just seems to pop up out of nowhere.
I'll give your tip a try! Thanks.
I got some gnarly wind knots/bird nests on one of my spinning reels yesterday. First time it's ever happened to me. I figured out what was causing it though, I was trying to use a jerk bait on it, and the jerking and me reeling while the line was kind of slack was making it spool weird. Then I'd cast and get a couple really bad knots in the line that I had to pick out. One I had to cut probably 20ft of line off. That's when I learned that jerk baits and spinning reels with braid don't mix well.
Always go with a spinning reel that has a wider gap for the string wind area front to back. Most of these will look like they don’t hold a lot of line but that’s a good thing because most line becomes brittle and hard to cast because of reel memory anyway before you can use that much excess line. Most all reels come with 2-spools so keeping an extra is always a good thing. I never use more than 8lb. Line for every species, and I’ve caught everything from 17-20 in hi-Bred’s, to trout and bluegill and I’ve always been able to long cast, and still feel the bite setting the hook every time. Always use a high abrasion line. And Shimano reels, No matter how cheap has never let me down. You can’t go wrong with a Shimano. Also, one very important thing I’ve found is that if I pick a med. action rod no taller than my height, I can cast it anywhere, including a tin can accurately. So use (your height) to determine rod length for your best performance. I hope this helps someone.
.... if i used 8 lb test for the fishing i do id rarely ever bring in a fish.... mainly catfishing for channel and flatheads around 20 to 30 lbs but on occasion i hook a real big one
I’ve caught 20 lb hybrid stripe on this rig. I know it works, but you can’t lock down the drag.
@@jerryodom7358 I've never had a hybrid put up the same kind of fight not that i fished for them often don't find them where i live …. not saying a cat pulls/fights harder but its a different fight
you cant use the same methods for every situation it doesn't always work
its like a guy i saw say the Palomar knot is the only knot you need which is wrong its a great one but it doesn't work for every situation
@@raveousone I agree in most cases. But if I didn’t have a rod for cat fishing, I would fish confident with this. I’m not fishing for food supply, just the enjoyment of the catch.
@@raveousone and if you’ve never fished for hydrid, google it. They are some of the most fierce fighting fish.
What I would like to know is, is it possible to get braid line put on your reel if it is not braid ready? I asked this question once before when someone was doing a giveaway for a reel, and said that it was braid ready. I wasn't aware that it had to be, so I asked. That person told me that if it's not braid ready, that the line on the spool will spin because it can't grip the reel. I didn't ask, but I was wondering if there was a way to anchor it on, or tape it on somehow, or make something on the spool surface so that it grips the line, I'm just wondering if I can use braid only on my non-braid ready reels. If there is a way to do that, I don't see why I would need to go out and get a braid ready one. The other thing was, adding the leader lines (fluorocarbon or monofilament). In your opinion, is it better to tie the two together, or possibly using a small barrel swivel and tying the two lines to both ends? Any info that you can give me on that would be greatly appreciated. I may have more questions when I'm finished watching. This is the second time I'm watching it. Keep my teacher like this, and I should be expert in no time! LOL God bless!
I just picked up a Lews Reactor series speed series rod and reel combo I am using braid on that combo and using 25lb Reaction Tackle and it casts FAR! its amazing first spinning rod I have braid on and its a game changer.
Thanks for the tips. I wish I knew this when I switched over to braid a year ago. Really good advice.
I'm going to Wisconsin early June for small mouth. Would I be ok with braid to leader or should I go to straight floro? I've been wondering about this with all that clear water.
Use braid but 6 to 7 foot fluorocarbon leader
Me personally I don’t ever use a leader , I use braid only, not saying Joe is wrong and I’m right it’s just my preference …..
Came for the casting distance, got a lot of good tips I didn't even think about. Thanks Tyler
i pretty much only target catfish nowadays. im disabled. i have nerve damage and limited range of motion in my left hand/wrist which i use to retrieve ven though i am right handed. for that reason i put waaaay too big a reel on most of my rods and until this year i never ran braid. now i am switching most of my 12 rods over to braid and every one i use circle hooks of varying sizes. one of my favorite "combos" is a zebco dock demon 2.5' rod with a penn pursuit4 4000 with 30lb braid and a 6/0 circle hook. i love the reactions i get from people when they see me land cats over 10lbs with it. for giggles i have another dock demon with a penn pursuit4 6000 with 80lb braid and a 8/0 circle hook.
for the first tip, i love my braid to 1.5m fluro leader. i throw 5gram plastics for trout and they love it too. distance and accuracy is so much better (for me) with braid.
What about line twists after casting? Like real knots or nests on the line?
Just call me old fashioned when it comes to me fishing. I use plain ol' Trilene monofilament, either XL or XT. I use clear or low vis green line. I've used spincast reels when I was younger. Good ol Zebco 33s, 202s, 404s, etc. I now use spinning reels for all sorts of fishing, but I'll use the trusty ol spincast every once in a while. I use a Zebco 888 setup for catfishing, but it doesn't get used often.
I don't think I'll ever get to use braided line. I've used fluorocarbon a time or two, but it sinks too fast for me. I like a little bit of a slow drop when I use soft bait or live bait.
Should I use fluorocarbon coated monofilament mainline without a leader?
I used 6 lb fireline all this year and i loved the casting distance i throw a 1/4 oz tube a mile
Kako staviti rolu a da se struna ne zamrsi?Da li je bitna vrtilica na struni?
2022 Stella FK on a Ocea Jigger Quickjerk rod. Nasty setup. My 1 and done .
I use 15lb braided to 10-12lb mono for walleye and bass.. sometimes regular line for spinners. Haven't changed the line in 4yrs. For trout I would use floating braided 8lb and 4-6 to 8lbs mono. I can watch when I get a hiy bc the braided line sinks
I prefer braided line mostly because it tend to be thinner, so I can have a little bit higher test line that's within the specs of the reel
What knot were you tying at the 2:09 mark?
How come when I reel in my fishing pole there’s not a lot of tension to wrap around the reel so it just comes off how do I fix that?
Is braided good for river fishing?
Switched to braided line years ago I only have one spinning reel and I don't use it for bass it is strictly a walleye rod. And if casting with it I will hand close the bail then I pull out line against the drag to prevent those loops. Loading the spool will also cause those bird best if you allow the line to twist when loading not as bad with the braid lines but still watch and make sure the line isn't twisting as it goes on the reel.
I use Bright braided lines, but i also use long FC leaders. At least 3ft long. Then the fish wont get spooked so easy. ☺ if the fish is really spooky i might use up to 8 ft long leaders. I lose a bit of the sensetivity from the braid with that long leaders but not to bad. ☺
I use 6 to 7 feet, tied with an Albright knot which runs through the guides.easily
Same here
That's not long My min is 7ft most are 12ft,
@@eviseratorkyle yea if im fishing searun brown in clear water i might use that long leaders, but it is like once a year i might need that long leaders, i have not noticed any difference between 8ft or 12ft, no difference at all. So i se no point of using that long leaders.
I usually fish for pike and have 1mm thick leaders so using longer leaders then 5ft is a pain in the ass. And where i fish there are not to many people fishing so they dont get spooked that easy, so 3-4ft is usually what i use.
@danielostman5805 nice I love me some pike. I never tested for a difference, I just prefer the connecting knot to be spooled a little I don't use anything less than 20 bass fishing because we have alot of pike
Hey what kind of rod and reel is that in your hands?
this vid and your baitcaster combo mistakes vids are the most useful videos thanks mate
Re: reeling with abit of tension to avoid wind knots - an easy way to do this is simply extend your index finger on the hand that is holding the rod so that as the reel bail turns, the line will contact your finger each time. This little bit of contact on each turn of the reel will put just a slight amount of tension on your line as it is retrieved back onto the spool. Do this & it will become automatic, just like manually closing your bail is/should be. I don't even think about doing it, I just DO, and I NEVER get wind knots on my spinning reels like I did many years ago before learning & implementating this technique. Hope this helps!
Most people typically just learn these small problems over the years of fishing. Personally my favorite line is Stren Original. I really like the florescent blue and as the line ages the line becomes more limp and easier to use.
I've been using Stren original all of my life and will continue to.
@@lewisoversole6781 Same here but I buy whatever is on sale at the time. If I can' get Sten original then Trilene is also OK.
@@happycat0411 I get it all the time at Walmart. I've always found that it casts better and smoother for me. Good luck to you fishing!!
KVD uses braid and spinning rods almost exclusively and his tip with braid is to black out the 2 or 3 feet nearest the bait with a sharpie marker. Thanks Kev! I've been doing it for years and it works great.
I use braid when im fishing weeds and around structure when fishing plastics. I also use braid on my pike reels. The leader you use is a metal wire so you don't need a mono or fluorocarbon leader.
Old Roland Martin trick.
I actually prefer it when the season bleaches the color out of my braid, the lighter the better. I fish pike and smallies, and I'm pretty sure they both have very keen eyesight.
Of course, the water I tend to fish is maybe clear in comparison to the largemouth bass inhabits.
I use #50 braid on the main and #12 fluorocarbon for the leader. It depends on the rod and reel combo and the targeted species.
I’ve been fission spinning reels for 45 years and I’ve never seen the how to get the Birdsnest out great tip great video
Helpful video, especially birds nests (how to avoid them), this would apply on many types of reels (excluding any that are hunting specific things off shore, that's a different ball park).
What kind of knot are you using to tie braid to floro