NEVER SLICE AGAIN // Working on Mike's In-to-out Swing
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Today Ian has Mikey in the bay as they break down his swing to reduce his slice. Watch Ian work with Mike on swing mechanics and how to get his swing on an in-to-out path.
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Kudos to Mikey being willing to have his swing torn apart in front of the world! That takes guts. Great video.
Mikey walked so we could run. Bless his heart.👏👏🐐🐐
@@goosepelican2512 Of course, he's already got a better swing than 90+% of golfers.
Doesn’t take guts, it takes money. I’d love to have my swing analyzed.
@@CA-sl2xw A little bit of money will get your swing analyzed (critiqued), but few would be happy to have several million people watching.
This video was so helpful - I have a very similar numbers to Mikey (except the handicap lol) and Ian your coaching here is so valuable to this community
This is a great watch for a hack like me. I like the diversity in content that's been coming. I love equipment, but these guys have more to offer than gear and fitting advice!
I’m almost 70 years old and I can’t begin to tell you how helpful this video was to me. In the last 15 years I’ve lost a lot of mobility, but seeing Mike go through this as Ian Instructed gave me a perfect example of the sequencing of backswing, weight shift, and then firing through impact with a solid transfer of weight through the impact area and into and through the follow through. Thanks for this excellent video.
When you started with the speed training for Mikey and I was seeing his swing metrics I said this exact thing - he needs to get the technique down first, and just by doing that and hitting the ball more optimally he will gain ball speed and distance. THEN comes the additional club head speed. Good luck, Mikey, it's one thing to get comfortable with swing changes in the simulator, quite another to find yourself on the first tee of a tree-lined fairway! I say this as a 12 handicap with an out to in swing and inconsistent face control. I'll be working with a coach on a sim this winter as well!
Mike's so nice, it's cool he's on the channel 😀😀😀
@ClubChampion @Mike. Something you may or may not be aware of is how long you get at the top of your backswing during an actual strike, vs when you are taking a practice swing and pausing at the top. When you get long, you fold the lead arm and get very steep. When you are just taking it to the top to get a feel, you keep the lead arm straight, at the top. In the video, you even take notice of it and correct it when you look back to look at your hand position at the top. Work on not getting so long and folding that lead arm, and it will help you stay on plane.
Really positively surprised. Ian seems to have actually great eye for golf swing.
I kinda wonder why this video didn't happen way earlier. 😊 It has been almost hard to watch Mike train to get more steeper in a way that actually hurt his swing.
But this is pin point accurate prescription for Mike. This is going to help a lot.
And Mike: Watch your swing on tape often when you practise. Remember that your feel and reality are two completely different things 😁
Enjoy your journey!
Man, i'm so impressed by the toughness and determination of Mikey. Good on you!
Time to twist on movie quote “that’s not a slice, now this is a slice” Great video, definitely speaks to the 20 percent of a club fit. Well done you two really enjoy this video. And yes ladies Mikey doesn’t have date to the Christmas party yet so best submit an application soon. 🌟🎄🎅
Recently started watching this channel and it's refreshing to see Mikey, with a similar swing to mine, breaking down the technique and working through all the components of the swing.
wow! AMAZING teaching video guys! Mikey......congrats on getting out in front of everyone and exposing the swing flaws all with the intent of helping yourself and all of us. Ian......great drills and lesson that we all will be working on in the off season! Thanks again for the great content
Mikey picked up on Ian’s instructions so well.
Very helpful vlog gents thanks 👍
Fantastic lesson. Hard work by Mikey and clearly explained by Ian. Thank you. Time for more range work with a plan this time.
Good video.
Moe called that move “ the feeling of greatness “ (vertical drop)
Really enjoyed this content nice change from club tests or fittings, but getting the swing dialed and then looking at a fitting if needed. Love to see it!
Great video! Lots of technique discussion to get rid of that dreaded over the top.
It's a sincere pleasure being in the bay with Ian. Combo of the best clubfitter with the ability to help with delivery is a unique experience I'm grateful to have had.
This all speaks to me loud and clear! I returned to golf in January this year after a 33 year hiatus, so being semi retired, I've put in a looooot of time at the range, on the course and lessons too. I've got a bad back, and left hip, so my pro has me working on a RSS setup, which works really well with the irons, but it's absolutely awful with the driver! I've gone from hitting it over 300 yrds and with a nice draw on occasion, to topping it, thinning it, low, short, awwwww, just all over the place! It's like I've gone right back to the start! This video has made me realise what I thought I knew already, I should have just stuck with how I was going, and the pro I've got isn't really for me, and I need someone who'll listen to me and not just want to give me huge change after change on every single lesson I get from him. I've known for months that getting those hands out is a real key, and I'm heading out tomorrow to get my driver back! Thank you for making the video, and I hope you get to scratch this season or next, Mikey!
Trying to keep my back to the target as long as possible is the one feel I’ve been taught that always works for keeping me on plane.
One of the best over the top lessons I have ever seen. Great job !
Glad to see the galvin green back on the channel 😂😂
I just went through this from watching many UA-cam video's. I had to envision taking the club back straight and delivering it from under the backswing plane.
Great video really detailed helped me understand how I need to change my technique, thanks 🙏
I'm working with Larry C to be more in to out (i went between -1 to 1) and he has me feel like my club loops behind me in transition. It doesn't, but the feel results in the club staying behind me a bit longer and helps shallow the swing out a ton.
This was one of your best videos I have seen. I will share this with friends and especially my son who struggles with both casting and over the top downswing. Brilliant stuff lads👍
Amazing Mikey is a 1.5 with that swing 😂. Great job guys
Wow, Ian's transformation to teaching pro! Excellent session. Like Mikey, I have that over the top tendency while also laying off the club at the top. Just started stretching out the swing at the top myself. So this is totally relevent to me. Sort of easy teaching tools there Ian. This will be a fun "series" seeing how Mikey does.
Exactly what I'm working on with my coach. Struggling for sure right now. The points here have helped me understand more completely what I'm trying to do.
Love this video guys!! This is where I’m at as well so can’t wait to watch this going forward.
I so loved this video. I have a swing like Mike does, mine a tad steeper, and listening to Ian's instruction I felt as I got a personal lesson and have things I will try at the range to help improve. I would love to see content like this again maybe randomly mixed into the other main content. Thank y'all again for all you do for us.
Great video. I am sure this will help many golfers, including myself. Keep this coming!
Excellent video. Great job Mike.
Great vid, thanks. Really something for everyone in this one.
Next level...thank you!
There’s so much in this video that I’ve been trying to learn also. It’s so hard to make it a natural part of your swing, when that driver fade has been so ingrained for so long (30+ years in my case). Stick with it Mikey and the results will come. Starting to see some positives myself but it’s been 6 months trying 😅
Fresh out of the driving range. I can thoroughly confirm that this video was the breakthrough I'd been looking for. Now can we see one on how to never duff a chip again? 😂
Its crazy his short game must be nuts to be at 1.5 hcp with those first numbers, hes gonna be a killer soon!
Awesome stuff here boys!!
Another great video guys!! I'm lefty who struggles with the slice as many golfers do and this video had some great points for me to try and work on over the winter on the simulator. I'm looking really forward to my fitting with at your Mississauga store next Friday and hoping with getting fit for a driver that suits my game will give me the confidence to step up the tee and let it fly!!!
Great stuff boys!
Does swinging out to in cause heel strikes?
I'm pretty much identical to Mikey. 93 - 100mph TSR3 clubspeed but I struggle with an out to in path (certainly not a 2 handicap). I used the methods you two did to get my path back to IN to OUT but as my clubspeed went over 90mph, I started coming around to the OUT to IN side. Hopefully you'll have a part 2 to this video and can address the change in path as the speed increases and what causes that. Cheers!
I went to a tee shot camp over the weekend, I have many of the same issues Mikey does. A main difference is I have a left shoulder injury, which makes it difficult for me to close my face to path at full speed. My coach had us swinging into a speed bag at half speed and making sure the driver toe was making contact with the bag. The end goal was a right start, and any curve to the left was good. Waiting to get my exercise program from TPI along with doing physical therapy on my shoulder and pilates for overall flexibility. I'm hoping to be up to 105-107 come Springtime. Average now is about 100, max was 102.x measured on Trackman.
Great stuff, hope to see follow-up videos
Awesome video! Can you guys do a video for irons as well please?
“Bravo Mikey-Boy”
It so funny to me how different people struggle with different things. I was 10 in to out. I have spent the year trying to learn to cut. I just recently have gotten my path to almost neutral. I actually create spin again. Lost 20
Yards with the fear of going left. Taking left out for me, is so important. This video made me appreciate the other side
“Canadian Chad Campbell.” Perfect! 🙃
Great video! You should try a GRF board.
Excellent content as usual
Swing looks much better👍
Just got a fitting yesteday and I'm the same way. Low Heel strike and out to in swing.
Hey, you're not alone AP! It's one of the more consistent misses we see during fittings. Hopefully your fitter was able to help find you some gains!
@@clubchampionmedia oh yes. Went from playing RocketBladez Tour Preferred to g430s with +1-1/2” length. I can finally have good posture in my address lol
Get his Kinematic Sequence graph and very likely, his Thorax starts the downswing too early (possibly simultaneously with his lateral shift towards target) due to his limited top/bottom separation. If he drop his Right elbow down and keeping his connection with his right rib will promote a In-to-Out Path.
3:18 hello Canadian 🗣️ 🇨🇦 😂
Can I send you boys some DayQuil? You’ve got a bad case of the sniffles.
Its really interesting, look at Mikes trunk in the backswing, its not turning, its just arms moving across the chest.
Ian, lend Mikey your Pro SNDR. Wrist angle (club face) and width taken care of with that training aid
Last weekend I was on track to crack 80. Hit a triple bogie on the 18th for a round of 82. Devastated is not the word 😂
Hi, when does the shift become a sway? Thanks.
When your hips don't rotate.
Makes sense, thank you@@MrPanukkio
I find that if I simply don’t allow myself to raise up with my posture in my back swing, and I’m appropriately distanced from the ball in my set up, i seem to hit the ball straight and don’t top it or chunk it. Simple as that! A good mental que for me is to think about how my knees/knee-bend feels at set up, and try to feel that same knee bend throughout the swing.
If, for some reason I’m experiencing a day where everything seems to be just going wrong, then trying to feel like I’m only going half way in my back swing cures it. Intuitively, I do think these 2 things are related to the same issue, (raising up body posture in the back swing).
I know I am a little late, but are all these aspects or some transferring as well to irons? I have similar issues likely, hit irons relatively straight through 6 iron, then 4-5 have minimal gains in distance due to the same things we saw with the 4 iron here. I did check the position at the top that you did and the stretch was uncomfortable to get a 90 degree right elbow and turn without starting to bend, so I know I likely was doing to same things.
As a fellow and long-time slicer I can sympathize with Mikey, and his swing issues. That last swing that appeared to draw was really a gear effect draw as his path was still out to in with a slightly open face. I think his main issue is that he starts the downswing with his shoulders opening, instead of the hands moving down and closer to the body. It's going to take time, but if he keeps spinning out then it will be very hard to get that in to out path.
Next step is recentering earlier to get the verticals happening earlier and produce more speed!
this is funny, I acquired an in-2-out swing years ago and have been trying to get rid of it ever since...golfers are never satisfied.😅
I hit my driver what seems to be very high. I used to use a 9deg. I got a fitting, and they gave me a 10.5. I didn't understand that. It was a golf chain store fitting. I still think I hit it too high, and I don't get much distance. My 3w goes about the same length.
The biggest struggle I find with making these kinds of changes where I lengthen the back swing is its impact on my timing, sequence, balance, and tempo.
Plus I then lose the feel of what I know works well enough and can get completely lost with my swing.
I would say the change does not happen in one session. It will generally take 10-12 dedicated practice sessions just to create some cohesive on-plane motion. I assume you already know this.
One of the biggest obstacles I see is learning how YOU learn best. Some folks can simply work 1 on 1 w/instructor, listen to feedback and implement the instruction. Most however need some visual support. I would suggest learning how best you learn, if you need that visual stimulation/support, ask your instructor to setup camera, I personally like 2 cameras; 1 straight on to show weight shift and rotation, a 2nd to show extension and on-plane club. Just learning how you most effectively learn will see dramatic difference in your ability to absorb and execute instruction
That’s what practice is for. The more you practice it the more natural it becomes.
It’s actually a pretty simple concept. Just need to make sure you’re practicing correctly.
@@gdo3510 in-season, that does more harm than good if you're already playing well. Off-season, sure.
Any tips for someone who’s out to in with irons but in to out with driver? No clue why I do that
In my opinion out to in is fine as long as the golfer is turning fully, that way the ball at least starts left and moves right. It seems many pros have shifted to a fade driver swing as well so fades aren't bad. If the sling is predictable then sling it!
1 minute fix. Your caught on the back foot. Start the swing by straightening your back leg. It gets you hip back and up without swaying. Helps to point right foot more open.
Mike 👍
Ian, you mentioned that Mike might need a new driver with more loft. Why do you need more loft on your driver if you start hitting up on it ?
Swing Path aside, can we get a video about correcting a heel strike pattern?
Set up with the ball on the toes
Had the same issue last season. Check your hand path and make sure you’re getting the hands left post impact.
I’d recommend the video they did with Martin Chuck a while back and Mike hitting 3W and driver
It's probably a reaction to the face, but it might not be. Try to hit it off the toe. You can also set up an alignment stick channel on the ground and make it only a little bit wider than the clubhead. You'll stop hitting the toe really quickly.
I have the opposite problem
A great drill for this is to place an alignment stick over the ball so you have to swing under the stick to hit the ball. Result is slinging draws!
Don't cheat with your feet, do it with your movement, great advice for me! Thanks!
Up there with Trottie for the best videos on UA-cam. Fantastic stuff.
I thought weight shifted, not because of a slide as shown here. But because the forward leg is pushing the forward hip back as it contributes to hip rotation.
my swing has the same inefficient moves with my driver as Mike. i lack depth on my right, never get on my left side on the downswing, resulting in thin strikes. its apparent with my 5 wood which is only 10 yards less carry than my driver. there must be a mechanics breakdown when i swing up on the ball vs down. does anyone else see this in their driver swing performance?
Really interesting video, I would ask though if you could have a sniff test as it is off putting.
I have the opposite problem 😢
New driver incoming!
** Whenever the shaft is level to the ground, it should be parallel to the target line. **
This happens 4-5 times during a golf swing that is on plane, with a zero'd swing path. (depending on backswing length)
Mikey gets it going out to in because that is where the shaft is pointing in the downswing, when the shaft is level to the ground coming into impact. It is pointing left of his target line.
He is not manipulating the tool correctly in regards to shaft orientation during the swing. Maybe he is not aware of, or has forgotten, and is not applying this important concept.
When the shaft orientation issue is corrected, the body motions will fall into place a lot easier too.
Cheers Mikey.
Me next
I looked at the launch conditions of the first 3 drives (baseline) and those had about 150mph ball speed on average and between 0 and 1 angle of attack, and based on Ping’s launch and spin optimal numbers table, launch and spin should have been higher - that is, before going the path of changing swing, maybe a different driver or driver configuration would have helped. Moreover, unless tee shots are a relative weakness in Mikey’s game, why is he wasting time on a swing change? Let him gain speed (110mph should be easy for him) and see where that gets him. If Mikey used arccos he would know much better where to allocate his time and effort, swing change does not seem to be the best option!
It is so hard not to let the big muscles in your back and chest take over a swing. Gotta trust that lower body and let the shoulders have the proper closure rate and release at the right time. It's super hard in those tense scoring moments.
Some has the sniffles 🤧
Rumor has it he still hasn't blown his nose
Mikey should be scratch. Seriously. If he can just swing more neutral, not even inside, he's gonna have so much more predictability.
Also, really great lesson from Ian. I'm tired of ams watching rotation videos on the internet. They need the other 2 elements of release and lateral.
I'd give anything to be able to hit a power fade 😐
Was hoping Mikey was a chronic HOOKER im too far in to out which usually is hooks with the occasional straight block
The toe folding on those FreeRun shoes got me triggered. Come on Mikey! Put on some golf appropriate shoes
next up is how to never hit a duck hook again
Never slice again.....think you need to sell this to Phil Mickelson...
Mikey is so fast that the camera can’t keep up with his swing! I’m seeing weird ghosting from the on swing camera. Anyone else or is it my TV?
One of your better video's guys. Funny enough, working on many of the same issues you were today with Mikey so i could totally relate to this one. Get well soon, you sound like crap... :)
Mike needs to keep the weight on the inside of his right foot. Seems like he's set up with the weight on the outside of his feet.
This video is the answer to all golfers who dont want to hear : you can fix your slice with lessons not fitting the new brand driver !
Who's Ian been kissing 😂
Mrs Ian?
Who's going to tell Mike why he is being compared to Chad Campbell?