Reminder: Sonic and all his friends canonically die multiple times. They just get undone by Silver the Hedgehog whenever he comes back to change the future.
@@etherealhatred Any time Silver returns from the future, the future is a destroyed wasteland because Sonic and his friends Lose. In 06, Silver's world is a wasteland taken over by Iblis, due to it being released from Elise's death. It ravaged the world while Sonic and His friends were powerless to stop it. This changed for Sonic and his friends thanks to Silver and Chaos Control. During the Zombot series, Silver comes back from a dead robot future. No life, no lights, nothing. Everything is dead and metallic. This is undone when Silver helps Sonic turn into Super Sonic during the final act, saving everyone and destroying the zombot virus.
@@LordSeraph999 ah, i understand what you're saying, yeah, technically they died but not only because it's a wasteland, it's implied Silver is from a far future, wasn't there somewhere said he's from 200 years in the future tho?
@@LordSeraph999 yeah i know that, but what i'm saying is that even if the future is the way it is because he lose, when the Zombot threat goes away he goes back to the future and till now we still aren't sure if Sonic and co are alive, it's way more probable that they're already dead simply because he's from a far future, so either way, if Silver is from a distant future they all are equally dead, that's what i'm saying
a Discord server I'm in actually has a collective headcanon/theory that could bump the technicalities up one. In IDW #56, during Sonic's fight with Surge, she electrocutes him near the end. When the Dynamo Cage overloads and she faints, we see one panel with Sonic's face completely frozen, before the next panel has him gasping. The theory we have is that Surge actually disrupted Sonic's heart rhythm there, causing a brief heart attack that ended up resolving itself (similarly to how an electric shock is sometimes used to restart the heart by doctors, since the shock actually resets the rhythm by briefly stopping the heart and letting it start beating again on its own). Of course this is just a theory and there's not a lot of evidence for it, but there ya go
The ring thing isn't necessarily canon since it's mostly a pure game mechanic, but Sonic DOES HAVE arguably more knowledge about Chaos Power than Knuckles or Shadow, at least more experience using it, he has been using them since Sonic 2, was the first one to have a super form unleashing their full power, not to mention the Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic and so on
@@CarlosEduardo-oo4tf not really, it has never been relevant outside a game mechanic, not even in the Dreamcast era, this is something we've all known and have been said multiple times throughout QnA's
You forgot the World Of Light intro in Smash Ultimate, where Sonic was hit by Galeem's light beams because he slowed down and tried to save Pikachu. Keep this in mind if you make a sequel.
I will be honest... It's even Funny that Sonic's only "for realsies" death (in games) was in Sonic 06, and it was exactly in 06 that he was "brought back to life" in the most logical and appropriate way in their moment! (yes, I know about the kiss, and I agree that he shouldn't have been there... but still, I'm talking about everything else) Because the situation was as follows: "Mephiles reunited with Iblis! He tore everything both time and space! Also Sonic is dead, for good!! And what to do without him?... ... Hey, if Solaris really erased all the boundaries between time and space, then maybe we can collect all the Chaos Emeralds and just return Sonic right before his death here?) I'm sure the Emeralds able to do this, they already helped us to time travel before !)".
Exactly. Not to mention shadow silver and knuckles are all there with shadow and knuckles having mastery over said emeralds and silver having some proficiency himself. There was no need for the kiss
The kiss just happened. It did nothing but add the cherry on top of why this game is hated. I personally like 06's story, but I would definitely retool the romance plot into just a friendship thing. I don't even mind Elise, but the kiss is just unnecessary.
@@jordancooney6817I believe the kiss was supposed to be some sort of closing for the whole SonicxElise relationship that they had, since they were supposed to be “in love”. The kiss kind of makes sense in context.
I find more unbelievable that A LOT of people still can't understand why Sonic, the, at the moment, only living being who had even more knowledge of how the Chaos Emeralds and their power worked, even more than the Guardian of them and had unleashed their power COUNTLESS TIMES at the time of SA2 to be able to replicate an ability that he saw once with a fake emerald tha5 has the same properties has a real one, i find that more unbelievable than Sonic actually being able to do it, like, common bro we're on 2023, in 2002 maybe, we were still young and no one gave a fuck about Sonic lore but bro, seriously Btw no, NO ONE except from Tails has believed Sonic died, they FEARED thay he might already be dead but no one was truly convinced then it's revealed that he was actually kept captive on the Death Egg Also, also, why wouldn't the emeralds be able to bring Sonic back? Because "they never been able to do it in the past"? No one has died in the past that needed to be resurrected for it to happen and also, IN THE PAST we've been reminded countless times that *"The servers are the 7 Chaos" refers to the seven Chaos Emeralds; "Chaos is power... Power enriched by the heart" refers to the Emeralds' energy and their ability to turn people's thoughts into power* meaning the Chaos Emeralds use thoughts as power to grant wishes, even Blaze mentions it "7 miracle gems that when gathered can grant you a wish" that was the whole point of the emeralds we don't even know the full extent of their power and capabilities, saying "they can't do that" is a fallacy is anything
I like the vids, but any chance you can shout a little less... loud? 😅 I use headphones, and sometimes I have to keep twiddling the volume between high and low so I can still enjoy 'em without being taking too aback by those moments 😅 Sorry about bringing this up 😅
That’s quite wrong. Light Mobius is confirmed to be an alternate timeline of the Prime Universe. It of course doesn’t work with the Prime Universe, as….you know…the reboot….which killed off the Echidna characters before the Super Genesis Wave was launched, and those characters all exist in Light Mobius But you should’ve kept talking about Light Mobius, as Sonic is thought to have been dead after jumping into a blackhole and altering the space-time continuum
You guys love to downplay sonic when it comes to the chaos control scene But heres the thing... Since sonic 2 sonic can use the emeralds to go super,and he keeps doing that until adventure 2, sonic already understands how the emeralds work and how to harness their power! the thing is when he saw shadow doing it sonic IMEDITIALLY UNDERSTOOD that shadow used the emerald to warp... cause sonic understands chaos esmeralds, so what happens in the end when tails create a fake one that has the same energy and property Sonic literaly made basic math 1+1 = 2 chaos control and it works and makes total sense cause sonic is just as skilled as shadow want more proof? Sonic survived the final battle against bio lizard while Shadow dropped "dead"
i wonder why people are so upset about elise kissing sonic,since 2019,i always wonder that,the problem is?it is just that,a kiss,of love,between two characters,one is a humanoid hedgehog and the other is a princess,i mean,the problem will be that sonic is a animal,but animals are not anthropomorphic,not they can talk,nor they can run pretty fast. also,it is not supposed that this is normal in sonic's world?humans and ...animalistic creatures(for say a name that is not mobius)
I don't think that this is bestiality, if an animal is anthropomorphic and has human features, and has consciousness and reasoning equal to those of a human. then why would it be bestiality?
7:49 scared the crap out of me lol
I had to literally take down the wolune on 5%.
Fnaf
@craftysonicblitz3542 it damn well could
Reminder: Sonic and all his friends canonically die multiple times. They just get undone by Silver the Hedgehog whenever he comes back to change the future.
"canonically"? Where can i find info about this?
@@etherealhatred Any time Silver returns from the future, the future is a destroyed wasteland because Sonic and his friends Lose. In 06, Silver's world is a wasteland taken over by Iblis, due to it being released from Elise's death. It ravaged the world while Sonic and His friends were powerless to stop it. This changed for Sonic and his friends thanks to Silver and Chaos Control. During the Zombot series, Silver comes back from a dead robot future. No life, no lights, nothing. Everything is dead and metallic. This is undone when Silver helps Sonic turn into Super Sonic during the final act, saving everyone and destroying the zombot virus.
@@LordSeraph999 ah, i understand what you're saying, yeah, technically they died but not only because it's a wasteland, it's implied Silver is from a far future, wasn't there somewhere said he's from 200 years in the future tho?
@@etherealhatred The future is the way it is because Sonic lost. That's why Silver goes back in time. When sonic loses, he dies.
@@LordSeraph999 yeah i know that, but what i'm saying is that even if the future is the way it is because he lose, when the Zombot threat goes away he goes back to the future and till now we still aren't sure if Sonic and co are alive, it's way more probable that they're already dead simply because he's from a far future, so either way, if Silver is from a distant future they all are equally dead, that's what i'm saying
a Discord server I'm in actually has a collective headcanon/theory that could bump the technicalities up one.
In IDW #56, during Sonic's fight with Surge, she electrocutes him near the end. When the Dynamo Cage overloads and she faints, we see one panel with Sonic's face completely frozen, before the next panel has him gasping. The theory we have is that Surge actually disrupted Sonic's heart rhythm there, causing a brief heart attack that ended up resolving itself (similarly to how an electric shock is sometimes used to restart the heart by doctors, since the shock actually resets the rhythm by briefly stopping the heart and letting it start beating again on its own).
Of course this is just a theory and there's not a lot of evidence for it, but there ya go
I thought that was what actually happened... Y'know, since that's a real thing.
@@TyshaggyGaming it might be what happened, it's just not been confirmed by any official writers so for now it's just a theory/headcanon
@@irishuisman1450 Well, SEGA would probably be like MR.Krabs and mount some asses if the words "Sonic" And "Died" was tied to anything more to a joke
Imagine Adventure 2 Was The Last Game And instead of Shadow he died
EDIT:I Feel So Bad You Had To Explain The 06 Situation To Your Mom.....
Sonic androids might be a thing instead of Shadow androids
i think that was the idea at some point
Shadow heroes
Team shadow:
Shadow,tails,knuckles
Team dark blue:
Sonic,rouge,omega
There’s a what if series’s about that on yt
@@dualorphan3765 But it's dead
Rings and emeralds have both chaos power, so technically sonic CAN do chaos control without having any emeralds, just bc he has rings af
The ring thing isn't necessarily canon since it's mostly a pure game mechanic, but Sonic DOES HAVE arguably more knowledge about Chaos Power than Knuckles or Shadow, at least more experience using it, he has been using them since Sonic 2, was the first one to have a super form unleashing their full power, not to mention the Super Emeralds and Hyper Sonic and so on
@@etherealhatred ahem proficy, oh and knucles can go hyper
@@etherealhatred The ring thing is canon, and it's the only thing that makes logic in all means.
@@CarlosEduardo-oo4tf not really, it has never been relevant outside a game mechanic, not even in the Dreamcast era, this is something we've all known and have been said multiple times throughout QnA's
@@Rexy_THE_T-REX wasn't that retconed recently and made them just Super? Tails also becomes "hyper" and it isn't canon
You forgot the World Of Light intro in Smash Ultimate, where Sonic was hit by Galeem's light beams because he slowed down and tried to save Pikachu.
Keep this in mind if you make a sequel.
10:41 I CAN NEVER UNSEE THAT
10:58, it's funny I just casually brought this up to my dad like 2 weeks ago and he was just like, "What?!".
And would you look at that, everyone, Sonic has fucking died! Who wants to bite the bullet and kiss him?
I will be honest... It's even Funny that Sonic's only "for realsies" death (in games) was in Sonic 06, and it was exactly in 06 that he was "brought back to life" in the most logical and appropriate way in their moment!
(yes, I know about the kiss, and I agree that he shouldn't have been there... but still, I'm talking about everything else)
Because the situation was as follows: "Mephiles reunited with Iblis! He tore everything both time and space! Also Sonic is dead, for good!! And what to do without him?... ... Hey, if Solaris really erased all the boundaries between time and space, then maybe we can collect all the Chaos Emeralds and just return Sonic right before his death here?) I'm sure the Emeralds able to do this, they already helped us to time travel before !)".
Exactly. Not to mention shadow silver and knuckles are all there with shadow and knuckles having mastery over said emeralds and silver having some proficiency himself. There was no need for the kiss
The kiss just happened. It did nothing but add the cherry on top of why this game is hated. I personally like 06's story, but I would definitely retool the romance plot into just a friendship thing. I don't even mind Elise, but the kiss is just unnecessary.
@@jordancooney6817I believe the kiss was supposed to be some sort of closing for the whole SonicxElise relationship that they had, since they were supposed to be “in love”. The kiss kind of makes sense in context.
@@ILikeSoda229 I would still remove it just for the sake of the internet's sanity.
It's been a while! I remember watching the channel back in 2018. Plus this looks cool.
Me playing extreme mode in sonic frontiers *sonic has died 1547 times exactly*
7:49 fnaf jumpscare
sonic the comic: you guys are going to include me right . . . right
The scream scared me so much oh my god. I was laughing for several seconds after.
7:07 *me Jamping out * 7:14 sorry sid- Me: PUT BACK ON THE MUSIC
I find more unbelievable that A LOT of people still can't understand why Sonic, the, at the moment, only living being who had even more knowledge of how the Chaos Emeralds and their power worked, even more than the Guardian of them and had unleashed their power COUNTLESS TIMES at the time of SA2 to be able to replicate an ability that he saw once with a fake emerald tha5 has the same properties has a real one, i find that more unbelievable than Sonic actually being able to do it, like, common bro we're on 2023, in 2002 maybe, we were still young and no one gave a fuck about Sonic lore but bro, seriously
Btw no, NO ONE except from Tails has believed Sonic died, they FEARED thay he might already be dead but no one was truly convinced then it's revealed that he was actually kept captive on the Death Egg
Also, also, why wouldn't the emeralds be able to bring Sonic back? Because "they never been able to do it in the past"? No one has died in the past that needed to be resurrected for it to happen and also, IN THE PAST we've been reminded countless times that *"The servers are the 7 Chaos" refers to the seven Chaos Emeralds; "Chaos is power... Power enriched by the heart" refers to the Emeralds' energy and their ability to turn people's thoughts into power* meaning the Chaos Emeralds use thoughts as power to grant wishes, even Blaze mentions it "7 miracle gems that when gathered can grant you a wish" that was the whole point of the emeralds we don't even know the full extent of their power and capabilities, saying "they can't do that" is a fallacy is anything
I agree with everything except the knowledge part of it.
Aaaah Sonic he was there at the start and he'll be there at the end.
Of gaming history, my boy went toe to toe with Mario... He lost.
It feels like sonic murder mystery released yesterday
These were certainly the moments of all time lol
I like the vids, but any chance you can shout a little less... loud? 😅
I use headphones, and sometimes I have to keep twiddling the volume between high and low so I can still enjoy 'em without being taking too aback by those moments 😅
Sorry about bringing this up 😅
I like the random scenes like when Elise brings Sonic back
Bro forgot that during gameplay we die.
That’s quite wrong. Light Mobius is confirmed to be an alternate timeline of the Prime Universe. It of course doesn’t work with the Prime Universe, as….you know…the reboot….which killed off the Echidna characters before the Super Genesis Wave was launched, and those characters all exist in Light Mobius
But you should’ve kept talking about Light Mobius, as Sonic is thought to have been dead after jumping into a blackhole and altering the space-time continuum
6:11 the actual d- GENSHIN IMPACT AD
6:47 How dare you bring down that song?
7:07 😂
11:35 LMFAOOOOOO
Also, you forgot Sonic Frontiers
You guys love to downplay sonic when it comes to the chaos control scene
But heres the thing...
Since sonic 2 sonic can use the emeralds to go super,and he keeps doing that until adventure 2, sonic already understands how the emeralds work and how to harness their power!
the thing is when he saw shadow doing it sonic IMEDITIALLY UNDERSTOOD that shadow used the emerald to warp... cause sonic understands chaos esmeralds, so what happens in the end when tails create a fake one that has the same energy and property
Sonic literaly made basic math 1+1 = 2 chaos control and it works and makes total sense cause sonic is just as skilled as shadow want more proof? Sonic survived the final battle against bio lizard while Shadow dropped "dead"
It was Shadow’s first time? Not really a good example for Sonic.
You forgot one sonic exe killed sonic in the game
no you uncultured 5 year old
1:58 the power supply 😂
7:48 this spooked the shit out of me becuase i was listening to this while playing minecraft
6:00 I unironically do. And you cannot change my mind.
Unpopular opinion aside, Fantastic Video Pool man!
Bro I was thinking of this literally 2 days ago what's your wavelength 😭
I literally forgot about 06. Not my finest moment.
SONIC DED :P
*U R DED* _not big surprise_
The emeralds became the dragon balls
6:47 NO MORE GODS NO MORE GRAVES🤘
You mispronounced Solaris.
Not surprised from someone who hates Shadow the Hedgehog, though.
LMAO I GOT JUMPSCARED WITH THE WATCH OUT SONIC
In frontiers he actually dies
they killed sonic!
7:49 made me pee a little
WTF
2:57 DIDDY KONG
Technically it depends on if you're a noob or not
i wonder why people are so upset about elise kissing sonic,since 2019,i always wonder that,the problem is?it is just that,a kiss,of love,between two characters,one is a humanoid hedgehog and the other is a princess,i mean,the problem will be that sonic is a animal,but animals are not anthropomorphic,not they can talk,nor they can run pretty fast.
also,it is not supposed that this is normal in sonic's world?humans and ...animalistic creatures(for say a name that is not mobius)
Well maybe it's because she literally kissed a *corpse* on the *lips*
@@airconditionedBreeze Elise said that sonic was not "gone yet" and that he was still alive (more like almost dead)
@@Joyscp999 bro was dead as hell, fuck you mean
@@Joyscp999 Well even he wasn't totally gone, it's still weird to kiss a dead body, especially on the lips.
@@airconditionedBreeze yeah,and is totally not weird that the prince kissed the sleeping beuty.
even when it is in the same situation
ua-cam.com/video/M608oFe2wv0/v-deo.html: a piece of XPool's soul died off when he realizes that he has to talk about Forces
Hey any thought why future mephilises can’t can’t just become solaris
6:43 how could you say that
before i watch this i'ma say 2. Frontiers and 06 I haven't seen it yet so that's my prediction
Frontiers doesn’t count, Sonic is stuck in between realities by the cyber corruption, not dead.
@@Superstarzs2000 he can't do anything, he can't come back without any weird powers. hes basically dead
Yeah um forces was dumb like how is he losinjg to chaos 0? last time he easily beat him with a spin jump and some homing attacks
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Sense when sega permits Bestiality 10:39
I don't think that this is bestiality, if an animal is anthropomorphic and has human features, and has consciousness and reasoning equal to those of a human.
then why would it be bestiality?
Wait-wha NO STOP STOOOOOOO
Bro so much unnecessary screaming in this video like he just shows a random cover of a comic and then screams about it
Uhm actually king sonic/gigachad isn't the main universe its another alternate timeline🤓
matthasnocuts did the same thing with your name funny
Sonic is so weak
Idw Issue 56
Why does nobody like sonic forces 😭 its one of my favourite games
DIDHE KONG
Stop yelling, it's cringe.
its funny tbh
Ikr, especially if this is your first video of his channel. (which is me)
it doesn't really give off a good impression.