Reviving Sonic the Hedgehog's Friends - Analyzing the Characters in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog

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  • @returnedtomonkey8886
    @returnedtomonkey8886 Рік тому +583

    The fact Shadow cared enough to know Amy's favourite band and get her tickets is more character development than he had since sonic 06.

    • @stratospherica
      @stratospherica Рік тому +130

      Considering that Amy talking to Shadow in SA2 started his whole character shift, it's really criminal that Sega doesn't have them interact, like, ever.

    • @sonicsucks20
      @sonicsucks20 Рік тому +4

      What character development?

    • @animegamefan8678
      @animegamefan8678 Рік тому +49

      ​@@sonicsucks20 The fact that he cares? Shadow after 06 became your one dimensional edge lord who fought Sonic and talked down on him for no reason and didn't care about anyone. Shadow here cares enough about Amy's birthday to know what her favourite band is and buy her tickets.

    • @Sone01TheFirst
      @Sone01TheFirst Рік тому +2

      Tbf, its not like he was in much since 06 so there's not a lot to surpass even if what was there was decent.

    • @tropanealcaloid
      @tropanealcaloid Рік тому +2

      Plus, he also helped sonic when they brought him back

  • @marchedgie6838
    @marchedgie6838 Рік тому +443

    This game really shows that you can have a light and more goofy story in a Sonic game as long as the characters are all acting like themselves. Shadow was one of the best parts of this game, and so was your character constantly having the option to check the garbage cans for clues.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +93

      Loved the bin running joke. Reminded me of the ladders one in Phoenix Wright!

    • @playermob7885
      @playermob7885 Рік тому +32

      There's always something in the trash.

    • @nubbified
      @nubbified Рік тому +7

      @@AceCardGamingwasn’t it a step ladder?

    • @math3us420
      @math3us420 Рік тому +8

      this game shows that good characterization and dialogue can carry a simple story

    • @hayond656
      @hayond656 Рік тому +1

      Oh wow, reminds me of the Honkai Star Rail protagonist

  • @AmewTheFox
    @AmewTheFox Рік тому +330

    Personally, my favorite part of The Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog is that our viewpoint character is....just a normal person by Sonic's world's standards. They can't unnaturally fly for their species, can't tear through steel walls with their bare hands, or shoot fire. And I like the perspective of it that makes the cast also feel a little special. Like, there's only one Vector the Crocodile, despite him not having some weird quirk.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +95

      Agreed. Removing the Sonic filter and allowing us to see this heroes as a “Normie” was a nice change. Elevates everyone and let’s them be themselves.

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 Рік тому +18

      Vector is also strong as hell, that's his quirk.

    • @spiderssssssssssss
      @spiderssssssssssss Рік тому +15

      @@yungmuney5903 Dude can lift cars and sing so bad robots explode around him. Plus, he's a master detective, so that's something.

  • @aceknowles8841
    @aceknowles8841 Рік тому +121

    I can't believe that the way they brought the personalities of characters back to life was by killing the main character.

  • @justinmyers7587
    @justinmyers7587 Рік тому +169

    Sega take notes because this game within 2-4 hours gave us interactions that was honestly fun to see and Sonic didn't need to hog the spotlight to do it.
    P.S tails is adorable and he's my favorite character

  • @Icepiq72
    @Icepiq72 Рік тому +133

    This game made me really long for even more interactions between characters who don’t often talk to each other. I wish I could’ve seen Vector, Knuckles and Shadow duking it out over Super Monkey Ball, or just how quickly Blaze and Rouge got along despite being almost opposite people

    • @EvelynWn
      @EvelynWn 7 місяців тому +20

      The idea that Shadow stopped worrying about his present for Amy for a few minutes just because he found something competitive and couldn't resist proving himself is just wonderful. He's still the same Shadow that yelled "I'm the coolest" unironically whenever he managed to get a hit in on Sonic.

  • @TheZetoBlade
    @TheZetoBlade Рік тому +186

    This game was such a breath of fresh air, and they managed to characterize these characters even better than Frontiers in my opinion. I hope this team gets to do even more stuff in the future.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +27

      The team did a fantastic job! I would be great get to see them do something again. The success of this game makes that likely I think.

    • @spiderssssssssssss
      @spiderssssssssssss Рік тому +11

      Yeah, I'd love to see a continuation of the mystery style for Sonic a lot. Possibly that could be a hook used for a Chaotix game?

  • @gustavolobo2001
    @gustavolobo2001 Рік тому +102

    It was such a pleasant surprise. And who would've thought that characterization would be spot on?
    Like you said, It didn't really matter the plot twist, I really enjoyed the interactions they had with each other.

    • @themightygallium9509
      @themightygallium9509 Рік тому +2

      This is something I really wanna see in the Story Mode for the next Mario and Sonic!
      That, and the regularisation of Toad, Rouge, Espio and Rosalina so they're playable in all events.

  • @mufinboi975
    @mufinboi975 Рік тому +76

    I would love to see more spin off games that arent the typical sonic games but just lets say a game where you help to run a bakery with amy or cream and cheese. I think obviously we should focus on improving on the main sonic games but every once in a while we can have a simple and charming game. Trying out different game styles. I think that would be cool

  • @CoolPlayersVic
    @CoolPlayersVic Рік тому +26

    Sonic had to die so his friends could finally live

  • @iceman92211
    @iceman92211 Рік тому +43

    “ Reviving Sonic the Hedgehog’s Friends “
    Cream the Rabbit is still nowhere to be seen

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +18

      It didn’t say “Reviving ALL Sonic the Hedgehog’s Friends” 😉 Give them time. I’m sure Cream will make her return. They probably just didn’t want to over saturate such a short game with too many characters.

    • @appleandaria6947
      @appleandaria6947 10 місяців тому

      ​@@AceCardGamingWhich she did…

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  10 місяців тому +6

      @@appleandaria6947 With the Monkey Paw wish side effect that it’s only on Apple Arcade lol.

    • @appleandaria6947
      @appleandaria6947 10 місяців тому

      @@AceCardGaming That's just because Apple funded the game. There's still a chance it gets ported to other platforms.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  10 місяців тому +2

      @@appleandaria6947 I have my doubts about that, but if it were to somehow happen that would be cool.

  • @finestcacophony9296
    @finestcacophony9296 Рік тому +40

    Loved it and I mean to death
    It’s a fine example as to why characters matter.
    You can’t always rely on the main protagonist because a main character is only as good as the characters that surround them

  • @BlueJGilbert
    @BlueJGilbert Рік тому +46

    I was delighted to know this game was real, and enjoyed every moment. Getting to hang with my favorite character (Tails) and solve a mystery was so fun. Even the Think Stages were a great time.

  • @El_Ace
    @El_Ace Рік тому +41

    Yes! Finally! Somebody is talking about this game. The writing and characterization in this game was AMAZING, truly. With this and Sonic Frontiers, the future of sonic is looking great!
    Ong tho is game is slept on, it so good in every way. The worldbuilding was so awesome, and the writing was genuinely funny. I liked how the characters were actually kinda a holes. It was funny.
    Oh and I LOVED the art!

  • @Surgemaster2012
    @Surgemaster2012 Рік тому +23

    I still don't like the fact Cream isn't there, she is always stated to be Amy's best friend, but somehow isn't attending her birthday? Not even a reference to say she got one but couldn't show up. I also don't fully by the too young excuse, for certain things I can see it making sense or being within Creams nature. Like war, I don't believe Cream would enjoy war or do anything like that.
    But a fake murder mystery? That seems a bit much to exclude her. Cream would get her hands dirty if it meant helping her friends, if it was something she had the capability of handling.
    My rant aside, this game really does all of the characters well, even Amy. It's nice to see Amy have an actual character that isn't just there for the sake of changing due to complaining. Especially her true crime podcast line

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +17

      I think her absence is probably more down to having too many characters to do them all justice. With the amount of care an attention given to this game I am actually surprised she wasn’t really referenced though.

    • @Shywhitefox
      @Shywhitefox Рік тому +8

      @@AceCardGaming Very true. They could have easily thrown in a line like Vanilla thinking a train ride would be dangerous for her, or the concepts of the murder mystery may be too much for her (Despite everything she has done in the games) But all and all, it was an awesome game. I'd Honestly be just as surprised why Charmy was not there when Vector and Espio was.

    • @JumperTV33
      @JumperTV33 Рік тому +4

      @@Shywhitefox Funny enough, Vanilla got a name drop at the end. I believe Vector suggested they just cake at her place next year.

  • @dockingwater1713
    @dockingwater1713 Рік тому +14

    As someone who has played very little Sonic but has learned to love these characters thanks to the IDW comics and video essays on them (primarily ThePJShow’s content), The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog was an absolute blast from start to finish mainly thanks to how it absolutely nailed every single character. Obviously the gameplay was fun too, but the writing was absolutely top notch. Dare I say that from my limited knowledge of Sonic games, this game probably had my favorite writing of any Sonic game since Black Knight.

  • @Spnozilla
    @Spnozilla Рік тому +23

    I really hope SEGA took notes on how much people loved seeing the extended cast and how actually involved they were. They really should abandon the “ Sonic’s friends are annoying” mantra that they had for a while and utilize these characters more in upcoming games. This game is definitive proof that it works!

  • @penprp
    @penprp Рік тому +13

    Characterization is one of the strong points of visual novels, and I'm SO glad they were allowed to do this one. Most Sonic games have to focus on the gameplay loop, and that's fine, but this one is ALL story, and thus manages to dig into the characters and represent them as PEOPLE rather than set pieces. In a way, it makes a really good companion to Frontiers-- which is all about Sonic's friends from Sonic's view. This is about his friends from an outsider's view. Two sides.

  • @sonilan4164
    @sonilan4164 Рік тому +19

    I only realized it with your video but, yeah actually this game is perfect for new comers in the series, it perfectly introduces the characters to the audience that didn’t know them well enough or got misleaded by the latest games (like for Shadow for example). I had huge IDW vibes while playing it but the situation they are in is just perfect to make them interact and show the player what makes these characters so appealing, anyway thank you for this video as it brings me even more hope for the future and it was a great time to see you point out how well they are portrayed in this game!

  • @treena9930
    @treena9930 Рік тому +15

    I think my favorite thing about this, was that while it was funny. When it had to be serious. It let itself be just that. When the cast is accusing Espio of potentially severely hurting Sonic. Vector drops the Butcher Act when he's defending him. While Espio doesn't sling a poem. It's amazing because these were two most hammy characters in the game, but when it become apparent someone was actually hurt. It's dropped, but doesn't feel out of place. The moment things get better. They joke around again. Also Espio being a petty prick and Vector beating him in a game. I hope we get a Knuckles Chaotix spiritual successor soon. Cause now I just want Knuckles dealing with these clowns.

    • @EvelynWn
      @EvelynWn 7 місяців тому +1

      Espio speed read a book just to spoil the ending for knuckles. Little details like that turn characters into people and make a world feel alive. Like, I was surprised to learn Knuckles reads novels and never pictured Espio as a troll. It's important because it shows they have lives off camera as well. All in one line of dialog.

  • @diamonddust4486
    @diamonddust4486 Рік тому +19

    My favorite bit has to be the trash cans.
    I love how the interaction between your character and Tails evolves every time you check one.

  • @juanca2567
    @juanca2567 Рік тому +11

    What about Eggman? Even though he had little presence and arguably the “Lost World” syndrome of the final boss being there because “he always was”, it’s the little details that make him enjoyable for small moments like him saying in a choice that he will turn everyone into robots even though he “didn’t do that for a long time (referencing the term “roboticization” from the early Sonic media)” or transport them to the future like in CD or 2006, him mentioning that Sage could use some new toys to play with in the former choice, and both Sage and Metal Sonic with shirts that say LET’S GO DAD and the latter waving a flag, with all three wearing party hats.

  • @slateoffate9812
    @slateoffate9812 Рік тому +14

    I wish Blaze had more time to be herself, rather than going so deep into the role play, she's also unrecognizable.
    As for scenarios I want... Imagine some characters having jobs. Sonic would be a travel streamer, wandering the world at Mach 1 while wearing a go pro, despite the fact said go pro's frame rate can't match sonic speeds at all. Knuckles would just aim an internet connected camera at the sky and call it a Cloudwatching Stream. He'd consider using it as a security camera for the Master Emerald, but that'd mean revealing the M.E.'s existence to the wider world. I imagine Tails already owns a few patents, and Amy could be a wandering head of a charity organization like A Charitable Earth.
    What else... I'd like to see a story with Amy and Metal Sonic as the focus characters, Sonic himself completely absent.
    Inspired by an IDW story, I want to see Espio attempt to shove a VERY confused Silver in a therapist's office. All that time traveling and changing history for the greater good has given the poor boy anxiety.
    Maybe a Wind Waker-like budget game focusing on Blaze, Tangle and Whisper exploring the Sol Dimension. Or a Silver and Tails game where the kid genius wants to see all the future tech in Silver's good future, and is unexpectedly disappointed. Or, an Eggman puzzle game trying to resolve all the inconsistencies in the game canon and their connection to the Chaos Emeralds (headcanon hint; there's a hint in the name).

  • @rickyrackey7930
    @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +30

    I think with the right script, Kirk Thornton can make Shadow sound jaded.

    • @Leemmmm
      @Leemmmm Рік тому

      All he has to do is Saïx and it'll just work

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +3

      @@Leemmmm Out of all the Shadow Vas. Kirk has the potential to be the most vicious of the group especially due to the new combat in Frontiers.

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +1

      @@Leemmmm He’s 67 years old which would fit an Old Man Logan-type Shadow.

    • @Leemmmm
      @Leemmmm Рік тому +3

      @@rickyrackey7930 the fact that the voice directors just settled for making him sound like a creepy snake person instead of tapping into that tired irritable man persona that i KNOW kirk is capable of makes me so upset.

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +3

      @@Leemmmm Here’s how I see it
      David is the Mysterious vigilante who starts off as distant to later redeem himself.
      Jason is the hero who finally found his purpose to protect the planet
      And (Potentially) Kirk is the weary old man burdened by guilt for the death of Maria and responsibility of keeping humanity safe

  • @sadie4230
    @sadie4230 Рік тому +12

    The knuckles blushing sprite was everything 🥰🥰love how he was depicted in this game he was so cute !!

  • @TheSwordsman100
    @TheSwordsman100 Рік тому +17

    I really liked it, with Amy and Shadow being my favorites in this cast. (I also like the shout out to Gamma) While its more apparent in the IDW comics I find two of Sonic's traits relatable, his headstrongness and his desire/respect for freedom. (despite the latter being a thorny matter for other people)

  • @sharax777
    @sharax777 Рік тому +5

    Excellent as always! Thoroughly enjoy theses types of games so a Sonic flavour was brilliant! More like this would be very welcome.

  • @daviddyster4145
    @daviddyster4145 Рік тому +25

    I love to see other game characters get their own spin offs.

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому +1

      A Noir Style Shadow the Hedgehog game

    • @daviddyster4145
      @daviddyster4145 Рік тому

      @@rickyrackey7930 I pay to see that.

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому

      @@daviddyster4145 I think with the right writing, Kirk can make Shadow sound jaded.

    • @daviddyster4145
      @daviddyster4145 Рік тому

      @@rickyrackey7930 I would recast Shadow's voice with some one new.

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 Рік тому

      @@daviddyster4145 The Perfect Team Dark Cast
      Shadow-Ben Diskin
      Rouge-Erica Lindbeck
      Omega-Charles Martinet (The closest we can get to a Mario-Sonic crossover)

  • @the_acquainted_guy
    @the_acquainted_guy Рік тому +15

    Vector & Espio were actually in other mainline games (Shadow, Generations & Forces alongside Charmy). They also do appear in spin-off games like Rivals 2, the Olympics, , the Boom show, Free Riders & TSR (the last three only featuring Vector).

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +4

      Yes but they were pretty much inconsequential in any of those games. That’s the point I was making. I probably should have worded it better 😅

  • @RemyRP
    @RemyRP Рік тому +7

    The Chaotix, recently, have also appeared in Forces but, lets be honest, its *Forces.* Does it really count?
    I am SOO glad they've returned for this game ^^ it's proven that they can be utilized correctly! (Its the same with everyone else!! Its a great breath of fresh air)

  • @ChaddyFantome
    @ChaddyFantome Рік тому +5

    I absolutely feel Smy was characterized WAY better in this game than she has since Unleashed.
    I know we disagree on whether trying to turn her into her Boom version being good or not, (i greatly dislike it) but I absolutely like how she leans more to how she was in things like Heroes, Unleashed, Advance and the Adventure games.
    Upbeat, fun-loving and bubbly but still a tough, headstrong cookie!

  • @JadeFoxAlpha
    @JadeFoxAlpha Рік тому +8

    This is the closest in character, art, and overall feel that the games have come to the IDW comics, and I love that. While we're wishing for characters in a hypothetical sequel, throw Tangle and Whisper in there too.
    But while the writing with regard to characterization is superb... I also can't help but comment on just how good the art is, and how much characterization we get out of it, too.

  • @JasaeBushae
    @JasaeBushae Рік тому +12

    Id love some more like this. They really showed just how much mileage this series can get just with its characterization

  • @whistheangell
    @whistheangell Рік тому +5

    Today, as I was sleeping, I saw a dream with a scene of Shadow noticing guns at the store, come close, and say: "Did ya miss me", I don't know how I should react to that shit

  • @OnlyforFydo
    @OnlyforFydo Рік тому +5

    I loved everything about this game. I love that it was free, I loved that it could be played on Mac (the only computer I have), and I love the characters immensely. My favorite bit was, funny enough, between my character and Tails the final time I checked the trash bin (after checking every trash bin in the game), and the comedy that ensued. The coolest moment though, of course, was Sonic's speech near the start of the last stage. I love how the characters were protrayed, especially Amy and Sonic, and I reeeeeeaaaaaly hope they make another game like this. They even created new memorable characters that we've never seen before (the Conductor, the Train, and our character)! These characters and how they are portrayed is everything I could've asked for in a Sonic game. By far the best Sonic game I've played (disregarding actual gameplay mechanics) in a while. 💙

  • @theanimatedone2313
    @theanimatedone2313 Рік тому +5

    I firmly believe that with the two movies, IDW, Frontiers, and now this game...
    They all seem to tell us that this "new age" of Sonic is actually onto something here.
    The extended cast of characters and lore expansion in Sonic is getting importance once again.
    Unlike the past 10-15 years, there hasn't been any overwhelming hate, ire, or scorn shamelessly shoved down our throats. These games being unanimously positively received, the execution of these being solid to grand in areas, and things that have been shamelessly lambasted for years being brought back, refined, and ACTUALLY RESPECTED?!
    This brings tears to my eyes. I--and pretty much a lot of people--needed this feeling for the series for a long time. Let's keep this train of actual respect and positivity for Sonic going, and not have it derail itself!

  • @SweetlyStar3
    @SweetlyStar3 Рік тому +8

    I loved the characterization of the game. The outfits, the theme, the story I loved everything. Also the Dream Gear mini game is a damn nightmare. I am just now learning there's an easy mode.

  • @CatrinaisHere
    @CatrinaisHere Рік тому +3

    If your favorite sonic character was tails, you will sure love this game.

  • @NintendanGX
    @NintendanGX Рік тому +4

    Espio really got his time to shine here. It gives me hope we'll see Silver get the same treatment at some point, and Sonic Team's already bringing back my favourite villain in the franchise; Fang. This could spell a renaissance for the games.

  • @ShadowStarkiller
    @ShadowStarkiller Рік тому +5

    I'm not sure what specifically I'd want out of another one of these, but I would 100% be down for more. Especially if they still intend to have a limited "core cast" in the main game (which I wouldn't know, of course), side games like these would show that they haven't forgotten about the extended cast.
    On second thought, I do have one specific thing: if they did one of these side games as a Chao garden, they could satisfy Chao fans and probably get people to stop asking whether every single main Sonic game would have one or not. Iizuka said in an interview that "CHAO GARDEN?!" is the most commonly asked question for every game, so a side game would be an effective compromise.

  • @rockincradilyyyy8489
    @rockincradilyyyy8489 Рік тому +3

    "add silver and omega" didn't even mention cream and charmy bruh
    also omega would be so funny

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому

      Picked the characters I missed most personally my guy. Have no objections at all to cream and charmy. They’ve been missing far too long as well!

  • @Sauceboi26
    @Sauceboi26 Рік тому +3

    The video and you all in the comments reminded me shadow used to actually care about people. (Coming from watching sonic boom TV show)

  • @RiversLiver
    @RiversLiver Рік тому +7

    Great video! I like your style of editing a lot!

  • @Outshinedsg
    @Outshinedsg Рік тому +4

    I had a similar experience recently when I watched the Boom TV series and a fan voiceover of the IDW comics. It really reminded me that I love these characters. I think the Sonic franchise is more enjoyable when the writers remember that they don't just have Sonic, but a whole cast of very likeable characters that they can use to tell engaging stories. It was so much fun seeing them all interact in a more "casual" setting for this game.

  • @thatbowserguy6361
    @thatbowserguy6361 Рік тому +5

    Murder of Sonic is the future of the series the next mainline game will be a massive VN with open zone elements

  • @Sonicrunner2010
    @Sonicrunner2010 Рік тому +3

    2:16 - 2:29 I'm sure you know this already but just a reminder, Tails, Knuckles, & Amy are confirmed to be playable characters in Frontiers via the 3rd DLC Wave.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +2

      Yeah, of course. I just mean the base version. Looking forward to the DLC!

  • @theoneandonly9775
    @theoneandonly9775 Рік тому +3

    I loved this game to death. The art, the outfits, the characters, the writing etc it was all so fun.
    Csnt realy say i have a favourit character in this but if i had to pick id say shadow. This is another push away from his edgelord ripoff and more towards how he used to be. I like how he knew amys favourit band and wanted to gift her tickets and i loved that he playd games with vector and knuckles.
    I hope we get more of this, i realy believe seeing these characters interact in a more day to day/lighthearted setting realy helps them in the ling run

  • @ouenjiwastaken
    @ouenjiwastaken Рік тому +5

    This was a really good video, subscribed! As for the game, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve always been a sucker for the characters above all else in this franchise, so seeing a game with this many well written interactions is such a treat, let alone for free! It was so cool of the team to make this a real game, rather than a gag trailer, and I hope it opens up more possibilities in the future! Whether that be more games in this style, or more character focus in general.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому

      Welcome to the channel! Glad you enjoyed the video. 🙂

    • @juanca2567
      @juanca2567 Рік тому +1

      @@AceCardGaming What about Eggman? Even though he had little presence and arguably the “Lost World” syndrome of the final boss being there because “he always was”, it’s the little details that make him enjoyable for small moments like him saying in a choice that he will turn everyone into robots even though he “didn’t do that for a long time (referencing the term “roboticization” from the early Sonic media)” or transport them to the future like in CD or 2006, him mentioning that Sage could use some new toys to play with in the former choice, and both Sage and Metal Sonic with shirts that say LET’S GO DAD and the latter waving a flag, with all three wearing party hats.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому

      @@juanca2567 As you said, he was only in it for a moment. Meaning there wasn’t much about his character to evaluate. I loved all the little references like the ones you mentioned, but pointing them out isn’t exactly an analysis of his character. Plus, the point of the video was to highlight Sonic’s friends. I did a whole video on Eggman for Frontiers though! 🙂

  • @MarshmellowTC
    @MarshmellowTC Рік тому +3

    my one and only complaint with this game is that during the final Think rush you don't get to have the characters running along with sonic as he picks each of them up. other than that no notes

  • @gobbyguardian9495
    @gobbyguardian9495 Рік тому +4

    Probably won't happen but I kinda wish the character we play as in this game appears again in some form.

    • @KennKuun
      @KennKuun Рік тому +2

      Just a cameo would be cool.

    • @gobbyguardian9495
      @gobbyguardian9495 Рік тому +1

      Realistically that's probably what would be most likely, but a guy can dream.

  • @nightlydata2181
    @nightlydata2181 Рік тому +2

    Sonic has had VN stuff in his ACTUAL GAMES by ST for a long time so this is a little more huge than I feel many realize(& IT IS FREE). I do have issues wit how some of the characters R written. Ofc that mainly involves shadow, his section had parts that jus felt unnecessarily forced. He says he's bad wit computers but can meddle wit Omegas' systems in 06(he even hacked eggmans' own computer in his own game granted this was via karate chop for some fuckin reason lol). Also R u reaaaally gonna tell me dude was worried bout his SOCIAL status? It would've been better if he was jus a straight up tsundere lol. I like that they remember Blaze & Cream R supposed to be a pair but then why isn't Cream/cheese & Vanilla not here? Charmy?(I actually like that silver isn't here tho lol) It feels like they wanted to take advantage of this bein a stupid April fools thing but didn't wanna go all the way but they also didn't make this make sense within the main canon so it's in a weird limbo where it jus isn't as much as it could've been on either side. I have more but regardless this was a fun & welcome surprise & to tell the truth here, this is also my 1st VN ever completely blind too & it was a sonic game lol. The most elaborate April Fools ever🤡 Havin these little surprise releases of non-canon stupid stuff by fans but still officially under SEGA can help not only tide regular fans over till the big ST stuff but also bring more attention to others on the outside basically bringin more good-will to the IP as a whole so ye more of this pls.

    • @kariminal2999
      @kariminal2999 26 днів тому

      I believe sega has confirmed this game actually is canon so 😂

  • @AnimalXing
    @AnimalXing Рік тому +4

    I thoroughly enjoyed the game, and loved hearing you talk about it! Wonderful vid

  • @numetalOverlord
    @numetalOverlord Рік тому +5

    Always a joy to see you upload

  • @majixajinxix12chartdisplay33
    @majixajinxix12chartdisplay33 Рік тому +3

    I am 3rd to view this good video and 2nd oerson to comment here YAY! 😆😃😄😀

  • @ApexPredator1000
    @ApexPredator1000 Рік тому +2

    I've always wanted a full blown Chaotix Detective game with Point & Click Adventure and Platforming gameplay elements. This only solidified it more for me.
    Characterizations were brilliant as you said. I just felt it was odd Charmy and Silver were missing from it; but I guess it was pacing and character balance. The references were cool though.
    Would definitely love to see more similar games focusing on the wider cast like the escape room hint; or even ones focusing solely on certain character dynamics like a Ocean's 11 style heist with Team Dark and (officially creating) the Silver Blaze Marine trio lol - with no appearance from Sonic at all, putting the full day saving actions on the rest of the cast.

  • @justinterry7853
    @justinterry7853 Рік тому +3

    I thought this game was a gag for April fool's day only 🤣

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +5

      You didn’t play it? Dude! You have to try it for yourself.

  • @Thorn_Edits
    @Thorn_Edits Рік тому +1

    I found out knuckles could read 👌

  • @hattanalshutaifi4587
    @hattanalshutaifi4587 2 місяці тому

    What I love about this visual novel and game is that doing shadow character justice done right and written well The way Shadow was written in this game calls back to his original characterization as a cold stern serious quiet indifferent brooding level-headed and reserved person who still cares about his friends not that he will admit or denying This was well-received by Shadow's fans, who had been frustrated by his Flanderization over the previous decade into Sonic's jerkass edgy and Vegeta-sque rival with few redeeming and likable qualities who treated the concept of friendship as bizarre and waste of time
    While still cold stern aloof apathetic stoic no-nonsense dour and unfriendly especially to the protagonist, Shadow in this game is noticeably calmer cooler & quieter and shows a softer more decent side to him that hasn't been seen in a while. Especially him ordering concert tickets for Amy and trying hard to cover it up until the surprise was ready. And in the climax he never once unfairly mocking chastises scolding talk down Sonic when he's revealed to be hurt and helps Sonic rescue Amy.

  • @gregtom3272
    @gregtom3272 Рік тому +2

    speaking of the video's title's first words , isn't that what sonic prime did for amy , rouge , tails , and knuckles , it should not be ignored how much that show did with those characters any way

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +4

      Extended media often does the extended cast well. (IDW, Movies) But as far as the games are concerned, we’ll written characters are a much newer thing. I’ll cover prime too at some stage though!

  • @CrabHead501
    @CrabHead501 Рік тому +1

    this game brought me back to sonic. i wasnt a big fan since i watched 1st season of sonic x and boom and played a few games like unleashed (on java). this game caught my eye since i really like ace attorney-like games and what can i say? i really love this game.

  • @jumptohyperspace
    @jumptohyperspace Рік тому +1

    I for one would like to see them make spinoff games where you play as characters other than Sonic. While there will always be an audience for that kind of game, Sonic is just one of many characters that fans of this series adore. They could make a game similar to Star Fox where you play as Tails in the Tornado. Both Knuckles and Amy would be fitting for a beat-em-up style of gameplay. I’d love to see Blaze get a solo game so we can learn more about her and her dimension. Or how about a stealth game starring Rouge and/or Espio? Speaking of Espio, any game with the Chaotix, let alone (dare I dream?) a game where you’d actually solve mysteries as the Chaotix would be amazing to me. This series has the potential for so much more than just a single kind of game, and I would love to see them use these characters to experiment with other genres.

  • @gregzotter6189
    @gregzotter6189 Рік тому +2

    ...why wasn't Cream in this game? Isn't she one of Amy's closest friends?

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +4

      Cream, Silver and Omega would have been nice to see, but I also think they would risk doing the same thing as Forces. Including too many characters to give any of them a proper purpose. Maybe in the next game! The mentioned an Escape room…😁

  • @leeeroyjenkins555
    @leeeroyjenkins555 Рік тому +2

    This reminded me a lot of sonic battle.

  • @andrewhall6479
    @andrewhall6479 Рік тому +1

    The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog was the breath of fresh air I didn't know I needed. While I had binged the IDW comics up to Scrapnik Island, and didn't get to really miss everybody for a while, it was still a wonderful experience to see so many of these guys at their best.

  • @Therealones745
    @Therealones745 Рік тому +6

    How come you think Amy would be so stuck up and petty?😂😂😂 I don’t really see how this is “progression” for her character when this is just how I remember her from unleash and such. I just glad she isn’t boring/“mature” and is actually allowed to be herself.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому

      Yeah, in Unleashed she was fine. But in Generations she wasn’t. It’s all relative.

  • @stratospherica
    @stratospherica Рік тому +1

    Honestly, I hope this gets Sega to consider more spin-offs with different genres that don't necessarily star Sonic. Like, I want a beat-em-up game starring Knuckles and Amy.

    • @kariminal2999
      @kariminal2999 26 днів тому +1

      A beat em up with Amy and knux would be awesome. They're literally perfect for it and it'd allow for them to interact / bond as well

  • @treena9930
    @treena9930 Рік тому +1

    A Chaotix Spinoff would be perfect. It could be like Sam and Max

  • @monokia637
    @monokia637 2 місяці тому

    Let's be real..
    every sonic game since 2020 was awesome

  • @pokeboy5794
    @pokeboy5794 Рік тому +3

    The game was really good, it feels like that game that don't want to be the "new game that is going to chance the industry" just a innocent and funny game, something I really appreciate.
    And being honest I found Blaze really relatable, a princess who does everything right, just breaking the law and participating in a heist for the feeling, it's something I wanted to do in a few occasions throughout my life.

  • @neogreenhillzone
    @neogreenhillzone Рік тому +1

    i loved this game!! it was so much fun and as soon as i saw the trailer i downloaded it and proceeded to spend a good chunk of that night playing it akdjfk it was so much fun and all the characters were so good and it was just a blast! one of my favorite sonic games now i think bc it was just SO good

  • @roguereaver634
    @roguereaver634 Рік тому +3

    Let's go dad!

  • @MxS1996
    @MxS1996 2 місяці тому

    This felt more adjacent to Danganronpa than it did Ace Attorney for me at least

  • @henrystickminfan2
    @henrystickminfan2 24 дні тому

    does this mean silver isn't coming back?

  • @maiyacurling986
    @maiyacurling986 Рік тому +3

    This was so much fun🥰

  • @cui8789
    @cui8789 Рік тому +1

    I definitely would like to see more games like this from the Sonic franchise.

  • @mildarkaa
    @mildarkaa 11 місяців тому +3

    The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog was the first sonic game I played, knew next to nothing about the series or the characters (hey its a free game and tumblr was raving) but loved them all so much by the end. I've started playing some of the main games now and I'm definitely missing some of the character moments they had here

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  11 місяців тому

      It’s great to hear this game actually had the intended effect of bringing in new players to the series. If you’re looking for older games with a bigger focus on the characters, I’d recommend Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2.

  • @maniacalfool5885
    @maniacalfool5885 Рік тому +1

    Oh my gosh can we actually trust Sonic games again?

  • @rabiahbosriali4218
    @rabiahbosriali4218 Рік тому +1

    I love this game so much. This game makes me glad that I'm still a Sonic fan after all this time.

  • @jackhumphries1087
    @jackhumphries1087 Рік тому +1

    Fun fact: the canon name for the player character is Barry

  • @Mysticgamer
    @Mysticgamer Рік тому +1

    I don't think Sonic is the type to leave his wallet or freeload. I'm betting that custom cake he got for Amy was his gift to her. Something like that would've had to be made in advance. Also, they would've needed a picture of her, too.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +1

      He literally says he can’t find his wallet in the game. And that he couldn’t pay for the chilli dog.

    • @Mysticgamer
      @Mysticgamer Рік тому +1

      @Ace Card Gaming My bad. I missed that part of the let's play I saw.

    • @sonicdml4175
      @sonicdml4175 Рік тому +1

      I'm more surprised he even has a wallet, what does he need it for?

  • @xenomorfo6145
    @xenomorfo6145 6 місяців тому

    Its just me or eggman didnt get any comments?

  • @silverthefox5363
    @silverthefox5363 Рік тому +1

    um vector and espio appeared in forces and generations and plenty of other games I forgot.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +1

      Completely inconsequential to the story though.

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034 5 місяців тому

    why wasn't charmy bee in the game?

  • @lilbasenji1
    @lilbasenji1 8 місяців тому

    This was my the first Sonic game that I wanted and played since Sonic Colors. I absolutely enjoyed it. I love the lines and how the characters were depicted.

  • @Cherrybombz_1388
    @Cherrybombz_1388 Рік тому

    the only complain i have is that i would have loved to see more characters as the murderer, because it gives you motivation to keep playing

  • @JumperTV33
    @JumperTV33 Рік тому +3

    Very disappointed you didn’t analyze Eggman. Or the still at the end that shows Sage and Metal wearing “Let’s Go Dad!” T-Shirts. XD
    Also, I feel the train and conductor were great characters as well. I felt sorry for the train. But also, if a Flicky has been running an entire train for over 30 years, perhaps they are a better power source than anyone would ethically like to admit to.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +3

      Eggman was well written but besides that there was very little to go on for me to talk about. Sage and Metal’s cameo made me laugh more than it ever should have but again, not much for me to analyse. Would have loved to include Eggman had he appeared more though!

    • @JumperTV33
      @JumperTV33 Рік тому

      @@AceCardGaming How about the lore drop that he literally built Mobius’ entire public transit system more than a decade before Sonic was born? Lol. Shows at the very least the man has foresight and a head for civil engineering.

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  Рік тому +1

      It’s an interesting reveal, but again, just a single point about him and doesn’t add much to his character. We already know he’s extremely smart and devious. This video was about Sonic’s friends.

  • @luiss428
    @luiss428 Рік тому

    my favorite of one of tails' sprites is where he just looks absolutely in disbelief lmfao. its almost as if his best bud died in front of him. oh wait.

  • @2ndspringtube708
    @2ndspringtube708 Рік тому

    I don’t know about omega and cream ,but I will guess big is probably still stuck in cyberspace

  • @CreatorofSecks
    @CreatorofSecks 4 місяці тому +1

    This game genuinely has one of the best characterizations of Shadow I have ever seen.
    Anyway when are we getting Miles Prower: Ace Attorney Investigations?

    • @AceCardGaming
      @AceCardGaming  4 місяці тому +1

      I need a Tails Ace Investigator game yesterday!

  • @verlandes1
    @verlandes1 Рік тому +2

    Just finished playing this absolutely charming gem of a game. Sonic is on a roll these days!

  • @ethanandjessie1997
    @ethanandjessie1997 Рік тому +2

    Amy Rose is my Sonic Friend!

  • @lizzybunny5436
    @lizzybunny5436 7 місяців тому +1

    The murder of Sonic the hedgehog, hands down was an amazing, unique and entertaining game😊
    I love all the characters. Especially there moments, interactions, personalities and roles throughout the game❤️
    Definitely one of my favourite Sonic games ever🥰
    Can’t wait to see more games like this! Maybe even adding a option to hear the characters actual voice actors talking. Just an idea. But if not, I still love this GAME!!😃

  • @doxtyl3998
    @doxtyl3998 11 місяців тому

    Where is silver tho

  • @gamemaster2819
    @gamemaster2819 7 місяців тому +1

    The Blaze and Rouge interaction reminds me of something from the Mario & Sonic series.
    In the Sochi and Wii U Rio games, certain characters would have special animations if the won a gold medal together.
    While it felt like some were missing, most of the Mario and Sonic pairs made sense. But what character did Rouge get a special animation with? Shadow? Knuckles? Nope, Blaze
    I always found that animation to be the odd one out since they've never really interacted. In fact, some compilation didnt even have the pairing because nobody tried them out. This game managed to show how the two could have a fun dynamic together, and made the Rio animation pay off in the end

  • @ChubsGlobby
    @ChubsGlobby Рік тому

    ok when they gonna revie big the cat?
    oh wait no ones ready to hear that

  • @violetthebookcat7457
    @violetthebookcat7457 5 місяців тому +1

    This game was the very first Sonic game I’ve ever played! I knew about the main characters and the animated shows but I really enjoyed how this game introduces players both old and new to the characters of this game and when I first played, I really enjoyed how unique this game is compared to others I’ve heard about before! The art and story is all so catching and lovely!! I’m glad to have this game be the first sonic game I’ve got to play! :)

  • @EvelynWn
    @EvelynWn 7 місяців тому +1

    Omega couldn't be in an escape room game. He'd blow up the wall and declare himself escaped. There would be no game. Still wanna see him do it though.

  • @megaturtleman1218
    @megaturtleman1218 5 місяців тому +1

    I can’t believe a free April Fools game has way better characterizations than the recent main Modern Sonic titles.

  • @NightyBatsy
    @NightyBatsy Рік тому

    Find the computer room

  • @takeshikujo2909
    @takeshikujo2909 6 місяців тому +1

    I really love the fact that despite the many years since then, Sega hasn’t forgotten that Amy did play a big role in Shadow’s character in SA2, reminding him of Maria and her true feelings through the very same words she spoke. The idea of Shadow having a soft spot for Amy because of that is just so adorable. Though I got to admit, even I am impressed with how far it was taken. Biting the bullet to go to a boy band concert with her to make her happy as a birthday gift?! That’s a level of vulnerability I don’t think anyone has ever thought Shadow was capable of! Regardless of him being a confirmed Swiftie, which funnily enough is something he has in common with Amy. If she’s able to bring this much out of him, and just the minimal interactions we’ve had between them in the past two decades, then I can’t help but pray that Sega gives us more! And I already wanted that for a long time now. 😊