2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV - Driving a Fun Plug-In Hybrid that Handles (POV Binaural Audio)
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- Driving the All New 2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV. This Plug in hybrid electric vehicle makes 323hp and 369lb-ft of torque. The new Large Platform from Mazda is RWD bias.
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That's a lot of features
Heck yeah!
As always, appreciate the POV and pushing the car a bit in the bendies! I always want to see what it looks like to drive a car.
Love how the PHEV isn’t a consolation prize if you don’t go for the inline 6, it has its own merits and it still benefits from the great bones of the platform. “You can definitely get this your way. Not a Burger King reference!” 😂
Also, not to pull a “but ackshually” on you, but I’m pretty sure the PHEV is naturally aspirated instead of turbo. 5:17 you can see the throttle body going right to an airbox instead of connecting to intercooler plumbing. Still, not like this thing is low on power!
That is correct according to the Mazda USA site, bare ICE engine HP is 189.
The nice thing about this setup is if you use regular fuel, you only lose 4 hp where you lose a ton of power if you use regular with the inline 6
Why is this a plug in when he said it can only go 20-30 miles on electricity. With such a small range you would think the car could generate that charge. I have the 22 Toyota Sienna hybrid and get the same mileage with no plug 🔌required no charging time.
@@holeshot1721 The Sienna hybrid can't go 20-30 miles on all EV
It's awesome that car this big still can be fun. Mazda is awesome!
I'm really happy with what Mazda is back to doing. They lost their way a bit during their Ford partnership but they're back at it and at it consistently now. My first new car is a Mazda3 that's on order and I'm excited for it, replacing my 98 626 FSDE/CD4E with 205K miles. Certainly a lower point for Mazda in terms of quality and design but still a very reliable and predictable car, besides the trans. I'm happy to see Mazda finally dipping into Hybrids more, I can't wait to see what they can do with full electric to make an engaging fun sporty car.
Great choice! We have a 2022 Carbon Edition for our long term tester.
@@BeyondTheTestDrive I appreciate it. I drive a *lot* of different cars for work, 4-6 a week, and every newer Mazda has left me impressed. Truthfully I'm a fan of Toyota but the Corolla vs Mazda3...The Corolla wasn't even in the running. For the price the 3 is a much more refined and upscale car than the Corolla or Civic it's competing with which feel like they're resting on name recognition while pretending to upscale their vehicle quality. Mazda isn't a try-hard, they are actually trying hard and doing well. Toyota is slowly coming back around but I think their quality peaked in the late 80's through 2000's and has been in decline since then. Honda quality peaked a little later but they've also succumbed to the cheapening to a lesser extent. Both the Civic and Corolla are fantastic cars but that Mazda Zoom Zoom 'soul' they put into their cars was the clincher for me.
I believe their partnership is now with Lexus.
Awesome car and FUN ride. Thanks for taking us along!
Thanks, Great POV review. It's great to see and hear you having fun driving this CX-90!! Looking forward to the CX-70. Don't need the 3rd. row. Would love a Mazda 6 sedan/5-door version but not likely!
...the cx-50 is close to a '6 wagon. Mazda needs to bring back their racing program and a motorsports philosophy outside of the Miata/mx-5 world. not everyone can do a 2-seat roadster. a 4-door/4-seat near-lux rocket would be nice.
There's cx-60 in Europe available. Same phev powertrain as this CX-90. And also 3.3 straight 6 diesel available (200 and 250 horsepower)
@@vvevvevvvv ,Yes I expect the CX-70 in the USA will be very similar, with minor design changes. I hope it offers the top of line Tan interior trim.
@@rdm925 Just fold the rear seats down in the CX90!
Cheers again for Mazda removing the piano black plastic in the interior. It’s one of the few things we hate about our CX-9.
Also, it’s interesting that the transmission shifts gears in full EV mode. Gotta wonder how that works?
I think it’s so you will be in the right gear when the engine turns back on
Appreciate this PHEV review. Thanks
I love this Mazda. Love the sound it makes. My brother in law have alway had Mazda and i cant picture him buying this if possible.
Looks great. Can't wait for the cx-70 PHEV
i would do unspeakable things for one of these things with the i6 as a PHEV. that would be beyond incredible
This road is beautiful!!
This is the car I showed my mom and she loves it
Heya Tedward hope everything’s good
BRUTAL ME ENCANTA .....BESTIAL .. CX90
Wow, what a nice car!
New signature color. how loud is the hvac fan/blower in each of the settings and fan speeds? is it uncomfortably loud in the highest setting?? love the new cx-90. hoping to acquire the (small) 2.5t cx-90 to upgrade from our CX-5
14:15 oh my, if not for yellow road markings I would’ve thought you’re in France or Poland. Quite unusual road strip.
You are at 399K ...so I just had to get on board with your channel...
Thank you!!
that looks like such a fun road 9:00
I enjoyed watching the ride as if I'm on board. Great review for a great car but I would love to watch your driving of the Turbo S.
2024 Mazda CX-90 Turbo S - The New Inline 6 You Need To Drive (POV Binaural Audio)
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You sounded more ethusiastic in this video than nsx video
It was a really fun day :). Nsx was filmed after like 4 hours of straight filming with no food haha
Last time I drove that road everything was brown and dead. I gotta get back out before the locals suck up all the water for their lawns
This engine needs to get into a smaller vehicle, hoping it gets into a cx60/70, for those that don’t need a 3rd row.
I wish mazda would make a pickup version of this along the lines of a ridgeline
Y’all need to drive the 3.3L turbo. It’s so fast and so much fun
The PHEV is just as fast and fun!
Great Review. Speaking the mind of most people and hitting the important points 👍 I agree with you car maker should focus more on PHEH than EV
They need to bring back the Mazda 6 with AWD and more hp! I’m getting tired of all these soccer mom vehicles
It is one of the best CS-90 PHEV review;
I would like to know more benefit of PHEV, like does it has "dog mode" is it heating by heat pump etc.
As buyer, when I looking for PHEV, racing style speed is not important, It is the highway noise level, EV mode range, when is the engine kick-in etc.
So far this review provided the most consumer needed information. 👍
that and MPGs, no one looks at a hybrid without wondering the MPGs lol
Awesome review !
i love you
vid
3:14 the audacity 😂
Are you sure? there is no turbo in CX-90 PHEV!!
The Inline-6 has turbo version.
This is correct. No Turbo on PHEV.
The engine sounds so much better than in the cx30. I went with the non turbo because the turbo has almost no engine noise. Too bad.
Yeah it's quiet, but the torque grunt hit in the back hits the g spot in the brain
@@AlumarsX it really didn't
Man, this thing sounds SO much better than my 2023 Subaru Outback when you step on it, especially off the line. Looks like a lot more fun to drive. Like the reviewer, I agree that 40-50 miles of electric range would be desireable. One thing to note is that this cabin is not huge for a fairly large vehicle. The CX-90 actually has less front legroom and headroom than a Suby Outback. It is nearly 3" taller and almost 10" longer than said Subaru, and Subaru has more ground clearance (0.7" more). It is also 5.5 inches wider than the Subaru but provides only 1" or so additional shoulder room? Thicker doors or something? The width sort of gives me pause for ease of parking, getting in and out of tight spots. Obviously Mazda was shifting things around a bit to accomodate the 3rd row. It will be interesting to see if the CX-70 has better legroom front and rear than this thing. The CX-50 has more rear legroom than CX-90, so looks likely that this will be the case. Noteworthy also that many other 3-row SUVs have better rear legroom than this. Highlander has 1.5 inches more, Kia Telluride 3" more and both are 4-6" shorter in length. The car is really no more 'lux' than the Subaru....Subaru has larger and more attractive infotainment screen IMO that doesn't use Mazda's weird dials. The only perks I see that the Mazda has that aren't in my Limited Suby are the ventilated seats, pano sunroof (which I don't want necessarily) and 360 camera. I think this vehicle is a bit overpriced for what it is, but being one of the only 3-row plug ins, Mazda can get a premium for sure.
Any hesitancy from that transmission at low speeds? Does it get confused at times? Harsh transitions? Some other reviewers have mentioned this in the Euro spec CX-60.
I have yet to find anyone who can explain how the ICE/elec motor/ clutch/8 speed transmission work together. Mazda says the transmission is a multi clutch transmission without a torque converter and those are the exact features of a DCT which Mazda says it is not. But the problems you describe are the exact negatives of a DCT.
@@clarkkent9080 MCTs (Multi Clutch Transmission) usually are somewhat like DCTs in their characteristics and they also don't have a torque converter. But they don't use two clutches, instead using a complex setup with an array of clutches. Mercedes uses one in some of their AMG cars (and it supposedly has like 9 clutches, it's called MCT Speedshift i think). It really isn't explained a lot anywhere to be honest. But they can handle more torque than DCTs while being about as fast and responsive. They do have a bit of the same clunkiness as the DCTs, due to their somewhat similar nature using clutches and no traditional torque converter. They can potentially also take power from two sources at the same time, which is why they might be good for a hybrid setup.
@@jodu9965 My only problem with DCT or MCTs is the clutch. MCT and DCT are essentially manual transmissions that shift faster than any human. But without a torque converter, every shift results in clutch wear. With even more wear when starting out on a hill or with a trailer and stop and go traffic. That chunkiness is the clutch closing and while replacement of a clutch in a manual transmission is relatively inexpensive, in a MCT or DCT the entire transmission must be replaced. They may have multiple clutches but there is still wear.
I would like to find information on exactly how the ICE, elec.motor, and 8 speed clutches actually work. I found one link that said the Mazda system has the electric motor hard attached to the ICE and the 8 speed having clutches at the front and rear of the transmission. If that is true, I don't see how the start/stop could ever be bypassed or how the motor could be used as a generator for regen braking.
Everyone has raved about the transmission. I wouldn't worry about it getting confused
Guessing the 8 speed will be fine on the CX-90: have driven both a MY22 CX-60 and recently a MY23 CX-60 and I noticed quite the difference in refinement with the suspension and phev setup (less jerky and smoother ice/ev transmission)😁😁
I miss driving calmly in my CX9 then ending up chopping up (and all my bottles and shit go flying around 😂). Almost like you can’t help it sometimes. Mazda’s are fun.
thanks for the great review, could you please do a review on Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV 2023 too.
They've gone to the trouble of making an all new inline 6, which means there's definitely a 2 seater sports car in the works.
I really love the V6 version. Looking forward to owning one.
No V6 version. There’s a 4 cylinder and an inline 6
@@TedwardDrives Oops! :-) Not much of a car enthusiast here. Just a driver. Thanks for the correction.
I really hope mazda can put the inline 6 into this phev eventually, I think there is enough space for that inline 6
I think this may be a better choice than the new RX. My question is this or the MDX?
MDX IS shi.t compares to this. You pay a higher price for 2000s technology
this. the base engine in the CX-90 is better and more fuel efficient.
depends on the direction of the company you like more. who has their product going the right direction. Acura IS Honda and has Honda money. Mazda is Mazda and might have some Toyota money through collaborations, but Mazda still oversees Mazda. where do you feel the most comfortable/at home?
@@K03sport Mazda all the way. They are still made in Japan at least all their premium vehicles. Bring back the 6 sedan and Rx9 with new Inline 6.
which location is that?amazing view it was💫
It's COMPLETELY asinine that governments across the world are making a push towards full EV before PHEV.
There is no break even point for the PHEV. Side by side a PHEV goes 25 miles on one charge while the inline 6 requires 1 gallon of gas to go the same 25 miles. After that, they both operate on ICE and get 25 mpg combined fuel economy.
The PHEV has a 17.8 Kwh battery. While it may only utilize 80% of the battery to minimize degradation, it would require ~ 16 Kw to recharge fully considering charging inefficiencies. My electric rate including surcharges, taxes, etc, is 20 cents per Kw and that is below many regions of the country.
That means it would cost me $3.20 to charge the battery and I just filled up at $3,27 per gallon.
That does not even take the added cost of the PHEV into consideration.
Ill be looking at this model in 2-3 years when my MDX Hybrid craps out
Wind and tire noise about the same as the Turbo S? I haven’t been able to find info on acoustic glass/sound differences yet
With how many Mazda videos you've been doing,I'm surprised you haven't traded in your Civic for one
"ouch"
@@K03sport It's not an insult
Would love an Nd2 Miata
@@TedwardDrives you seemed to love the blackwing quite a bit
❤
PHEV is very under-appreciated. Pure EVs in cold weather range cuts in more than half. PHEV easily solves its problem.
The Mazda PHEV travels only 25 miles on EV and all versions get 25 MPG combined fuel economy. So that PHEV only saves 1 gallon of gas per charge and in my area the cost to charge that massive battery equals the cost of 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to lug around a 700 lb battery that saves you no money....no thanks.
BTW, cold weather decreases the range of all lithium batteries, EV and PHEV
@@clarkkent9080 yeah but in cold weather if you run out of battery in bev you are in danger of freezing and stranded. Not in PHEV
@@i6power30 It will be a decade before I consider a BEV. For now, ICE only seems to be the best answer. BTW, in cold weather, That CX-90 PHEV will not even get 25 miles of EV range
@@clarkkent9080 of course, I still like PHEV more than gas car or pure bev. For short errands you don't have to use gas and only use gas if you have to go further or in extreme cold. It's not just about fuel savings either it's also about the feeling of serenity and refinement that no gas car can offer. Everyday you start the car silently and pull out of driveway effortlessly. With gas car you have to warm up after cold start and you have to inhale exhaust fume going in and out of car even for a 5 min errands. I guess it depends on your usage. If your drive is 95% short errands, EV is way more enjoyable to live with. On rare occasions you need gas engine it's there no sweat looking for charging stations in unfamiliar land
@@i6power30 Just a few points:
A EV or PHEV will take much longer to warm up in cold weather and I don't even know if the Mazda has an electric heat pump. Otherwise you are going to be draining that battery using the heated seats and steering wheel.
Today's vehicles are so clean you will never smell exhaust and you can't even commit suicide by running the ICE in a closed garage.....That is if you wanted to when you find out you paid $4,000 more and get no savings !
Also one reviewer stated that there is a very strange sound in EV mode and specifically stated that if you are looking for a completely quite EV ride you should look elsewhere.
I am not against EVs, PHEVs, or Mazda, it is just that the Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient per KWH battery size of any PHEV sold today. Once all the facts are known then people can make informed decisions
wow you can almost fit a 9th passenger in the engine bay o_o
How does the 3.3T drive compared to the MDX?
I don't get it for this PHEV, but still 25mpg combined, and inline 6 is mild hybrid which is still 25mpg combined. Then what is the point of this plugin hybrid? Maybe sounds more aggressive and the 30 miles for daily driving? Anyway, the way this car drive is so fascinating, something that a non car enthusiast won't understand, I felt like I can express my feeling through the steering wheel at every corner of the road.
3:40 pretty sure phev doesnt get cooled 2nd row seats even on top trim
What's the price and mpg for this?
"a lot" and "decent" in that order. 7 trim levels. pick your poison to fit your budget.
Can you use the paddles in EV mode?
What were you getting on a full tank?
Why didn't you floor it on EV mode? we all wanna see full acceleration on electric mode
During summer, can it still run on pure electric or does it need to run the engine at all times for A/C?
Just take off your excessive clothes and ease up on the gas pedal
CX-70 PHEV can't come soon enough, just don't have a need for this 7 seater.
The PHEV is the same for all CX-60/70/80/90. The 17.8 Kwh battery is depleted after 25 miles of driving while the Inline 6 will travel 25 miles on one gallon of gas.
In my area a gallon if gas is $3.27 and to recharge that battery at my electric rate (20 cents per Kwh with tax-fees) would cost $3.20.
Almost no difference so what is the advantage of spending thousand more for the PHEV and get (almost) no cost savings?????
I wonder what % of people use paddle shifters.
The same percentage that are auto journalists.
25-30 mpe isn’t enough to qualify for the EV tax incentives in my state. Pass.
nice but mazda should stick to making affordable cars
I don't think so, b/c someone has to lead the way and keep the Japanese competitive b/c otherwise the Koreans are going to takeover. Since Honda/Acura isn't up to the task or just not interested then Mazda has to carry the torch b/c neither Subaru nor Mitsubishi or even Toyota makes enough sports tuned vehicles to compete w/. The Germans. Now that the big 3 have canceled their halo gas muscle cars soon to be replaced by electric versions of them then the whole automobile has to evolve to ev or hydrogen eventually. It all depends how quickly the government pushes us to convert by cutting oil production!
The car XC90 should have been?
The XC -90 IS A VOLVO Isn't it and while some performance tuned variants of Volvos have enhanced handling, I don't think the XC-90 was one of them.
Review an inline 6 mazda cx60
They don't have it. And probably won't get a diesel
@@vvevvevvvv on the mazda site for it it says itll have 2.5L PLUG-IN HYBRID (PHEV), 3.3L MILD HYBRID TURBO PETROL, 3.3L MILD HYBRID TURBO DIESEL. So I think the 3.3 gas mild hybrid would be the same as the cx90 gets but in a smaller car, maybe they can put it in a sedan too that would be the best.
This car is very similar to Volvo XC90
Every version of the CX-90 uses an electric motor between the ICE and the transmission. The Volvo uses either a 48 volt starter generator attached to the motor or the plug in uses an electric motor connected to the rear axle. Other than the fact that they both use motors, the Volvo and Mazda systems are completely different
What's the max range ?
Can you do the ford explorer ST
It’s junk. NEXT
0-60 time between the PHEV and the TURBO?
Nearly identical. Redline reviews tested them both and both powertrains did roughly 6.3-6.5s.
@@kevinandrew_ Thx, not much between them. Should be the quickest of the non-lux 3 rows. Hopefully the wet clutch set up is reliable.
@@MIZUNOMP60 Mazda's reliability as of late has been pretty good, but yeah, you never know with a brand new powertrain. I love inline 6's, but I'd be tempted to go PHEV given current gas prices and my commute fitting into typical PHEV ranges.
@@kevinandrew_the Turbo S is 5.9 according to Texas Truck Channel and they think they can get it lower once they get their own to test
@@ShibaCX90 Not familiar with their video, but as we know elevation and other factors can affect 0-60, so I'm sure it's possible. I was more so just referring to the comparison between the two powertrains and pointing out that on the same day with the same driver in the same location, PHEV and Turbo S had almost almost the same 0-60.
How often does it has to be charged if you do lets say 50 miles per day?
It only gets 25 miles of EV only range before the battery must be recharged to run more EV only distance
Can you bypass the start/stop? If so, how does the ICE still run when there is no torque converter?
Does it have regen braking? If so how is that possible if the ICE and electric motor/gen are connected without a clutch?
I'm sure the ingenious Mazda ECU masterfully handles that magic.
@@EmoGdSprt It has to open and close clutches and start/stop the ICE. This is not an ECU problem it is a how can it mechanically do it
Button
@@erickonassis6310 Button? What an ingenious Mazda solution !
Doesn't sound that bad 😂👌
The 2.5 sounds better than the inline 6
Assuming that you only plug in the PHEV CX-90 once per day, the best you will get is 25 miles of electric range for that day. The inline -6 gets 25 mpg average so the most you are going to save on gas with the PHEV is one gallon of gas per day.
Not really.
If you EV mode it on shorter trip, say a 30km back and forth, that's zero gas.
@@ariescaisip5498 My point was comparing a PHEV to the inline 6. Most people will charge at home, drive to work, back home, and then charge at night for the next day.
The absolute most gas the PHEV will save is 1 gallon per day
Say you have the PHEV and I have the Inline 6. We both work 12.5 miles away, 25 mile round trip to and from work. You drive to and from work and get 25 miles of electric range and use 0 gallons of gas. I drive to and from work (25 mph combined) and use 1 gallon of gas. Any longer commute and the PHEV will switch to ICE and is rated at 25 mpg, same as the inline 6 so there is no more savings.
My point is the much more expensive PHEV worth the cost when all you save is the cost of 1 gallon of gas per day driven? It would take years just to break even.
@@clarkkent9080 no. What are you talking about
@@mbenton6 Most people will drive the PHEV to work and back or to the store and back and then charge at home.
Put a PHEV and inline 6 side by side and drive 25 miles.
After 25 miles, the PHEV battery will be depleted and any miles after that are on ICE only with a combined 25MPG fuel economy.
After 25 miles, the Inline 6 with a combined fuel economy would have used 1 gallon of gas and any miles after that are at a combined 25MPG fuel economy.
Unless you charge at work or multiple times (2-3 hour charge time) the most the PHEV will save you is 1 gallon of gas per battery recharge.
And I just filled up at $3.27 per gallon.
My electric rate + tax + additional bill fees is 0.20 cents per Kwh. It will take ~16 Kwh to recharge that PHEV depleted battery at a cost of $ 3.20. The is essentially NO cost savings.
Don't you understand simple math???
@@clarkkent9080 I thought you still get 25 in both electric and gasoline
Premium? How does Mazda say premium when they don’t offer the wheels wells to be painted the same color as the car instead of the flat black plastic cheap look. They paint it on the inline 6 version. They even paint it on the much cheaper CX-5 signature version. I don’t want to pay around $60k for a vehicle that has cheap plastic wheel wells that don’t match the car
Phev is $48,000. Where are you getting $60,000 from
Stop bitcshing
the hell? painted wheel wells is the problem? you need some real problems in life
that might be the worst looking new car at the moment
“Hold my beer” - bmw m2 designers
theres still ford, and honda, and nissan is pretty bad. this isnt bad at all
what a slow junk money grab car.... overpriced junk as everything else coming out