Mazda CX-90 PHEV plug-in hybrid OWNERS REVIEW. A $42,000 8 passenger AWD SUV that gets 50+ mpg
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2023
- We leased a 2024 Mazda CX-90 PHEV AWD Preferred Plus 8 passenger and have had it for 5 months/5000 miles. We plug it in every night on our 120volt garage outlet (no upgrade needed) and it charges overnight. So far we're averaging over 50mpg and have used it to tow a boat and slight off roading. This review covers what we really like about it and the few downsides we've come across. I also go in-depth into the numbers (6:12 mark) on total cost of energy as well as the tax credits available.
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Wow, I have never seen this perspective with any of the other reviewers, you really differentiate yourself as a reviewer. Congrats!
I appreciate that!
It's nice to see a real world review on UA-cam. Thank You
Excellent video. We've had the CX-90 PHEV for about 3 months now in Canada. We purchased the top of the line model here called the "GT" for the equivalent of $48,337 US (not including rebates). We only got a $2,500 Cdn rebate on the price since it just gets 42 km of electric only driving. It if was over 50 km we'd have gotten a $5,000 Cdn $ rebate. Most of my driving (small town on Georgian Bay) is local so most of it is electric. It can get very cold here (not this year yet) but since we have underground parking it never gets below about 8 Deg C. We also decided to lease the vehicle (first time ever) since it is new technology for Mazda and things are changing very quickly. As long as the return on our investments at least match the interest rate on the lease then it isn't really costing any extra for the lease.
Hi there, how is it doing in cold weather range wise? Hope you can share some info. Also does it have heat pump. Do you find it useful in the cold. Thanks
I'm taking a serious look at the 70 vs 90. Your video helped considerably. Thanks.
The rotary Mazdas were very reliable. 7 consecutive IMSA racing championships. First Japanese car to win the 24 Hours of LeMans.
Great review and thank you for sharing.
Nice review from an owner’s POV
Really comprehensive review sir. I appreciate the information and am considering all kinds of SUVs currently, including this one. By the way, and I apologize if I missed it, but have you had any issues or need to return it to the dealer for ANY warranty concerns?
Thankyou for your video, very helpful.
The gap in front of the engine was the size difference between the 2.5T and 3.3T engine, another 3.3 inline 6 engine fill that gap nicely
Great video! We've had our Premium Plus for a week now and loving it so far. To your point about the cold stops, that's definitely a concern of mine especially since we're still breaking it in. Did you guys try to do mostly gaa during that break in period?
We’ve really used electric as much as possible from the start. We did take a couple longer road trips which put miles on the gas motor and hopefully got us through a proper “break in”. I also figure that since we drive more than 50% on electric, then maybe when the vehicle has 100k on it, the gas motor has
I have a cx90 and so far i have 1000 miles on it. I have installed a level 2 charger and it is much faster than level 1. So far, i have used less than 1/4 tank of gas! We have set our Air Condition at home in such way that our total electric bill is now less than what we use to pay. That is, the saving from AC is enough to charge the car!
Beautiful car
Thank you for this video! I loved the Premium & Premium plus trim but since we need to put a car seat and needed a bench, the only option is Preferred which has a smaller sun roof and no navigation. I was looking for a video about Preferred and this suddenly popped on my feed!
How is the car without the navigation? going for a test drive this week for Preferred!
Our reasons were the same-needed that middle bench. I don’t miss navigation at all we use Apple CarPlay & it works perfectly
This is a good unique take on the CX-90 from the financial perspective. Good insights. $7500 off the cost of car is not insignificant.
Thanks. That’s what I was trying to do, tell the ownership story including bottom line which most car reviewers don’t cover in depth
I also leased a PP PHEV, coming off a CX-9 GT, the big reason was the $7500 lease cash + $500 loyalty cash, and additional discounts... that dropped the price from $58.9k to $47k... my monthly is $603/mo.. only initial fees.. never put any down-payment on a lease
How does this work? This is a lease not a purchase? Well… no thanks at that price.
Yes a lease.. different terms, but u rather lease than buy...
Why Lease? That’s a LOT to “borrow”.
Helpful, thanks
Definitely competitive pricing, kinda interesting how mazda made the cx90 twins very similar just augmented for use case, where the phev is basically a 2.5L with a "free half gallon tank" at 17.8kwh. With 33kwh equaling apprx 1 gallon of gas.
I'm pretty sure the number mazda gives for 17.8kwh battery is the actual usable amount with an additional 1kwh as buffer, 18.8/33= 57 mpge
If it can be purchased under $40,000 starting, we make look at them. The Mitsubishi is on my short list because they tend to be very negotiable on price, some $8000 below MSRP. More open to one since we might be adding Solar. We want to purchase and not Lease. We keep our cars 12 years or longer average. I like what Mazda did with these.
THAnk YOU. We are the same height so I WAS wondering how someone our height would fit.
Amazing video. Thank you!! Did you trade in your minivan? Could you tell me how trading in affects lease prices/ monthly payments?
No, we sold the minivan privately. We did put $5500 down which essentially just goes towards lowering lease payments.
Great video! How’s your charging experience esp when you charge it outside of garage in snow storm or during freezing weather??? I can’t find any videos on that. I live in east coast where winter last for 8 months😢 and don’t have garage. Thank you
We originally had a cord running under the garage door and plugged into a 120V outlet in the garage. That circuit would trip sometimes because it was on the same circuit as a freezer, a lot of other charging power tools, etc. So we had an electrician put in an additional breaker dedicated to this and run to an outside box. So we plug in outside now, have had zero issues all through the winter. Some subfreezing temps here in Virginia, but a LOT of rain. No issues.
Great review, how much difference you feel in the drive , ride and handling between this and online 6 turbo? Did you also drive the grand highlander ?
you do feel some difference in the throttle feel as it transitions between electric and gas, so the inline 6 is more consistently smooth. Ride and handling seem the same, and the acceleration/power of the PHEV is every bit as good, or at least feels like you're not missing out on power. I did not drive the Grand Highlander, although I have sat in one. It's definitely roomier, feels more comfortable, etc. I just find the CX-90 to be much more interesting, upscale looking, fun to drive, and the value proposition with the lease credit is strong.
Thanks for the review. How quick is it in EV mode? I'm coming from a Mach e GT because I need a 3rd row, and plan to drive in EV mode as much as possible but nervous that it's going to be painfully slow in pure electric.
The CX-90 in full electric mode will likely disappoint you. It does have good pickup when you keep it in normal mode and the full hybrid effect is on. But in pure electric mode it does not rocket off the line like a Mach E or Tesla does.
Thanks for the practical review. Btw, was the tax/fee taken on the original price 50k or after rebate price 42k?
That is correct; taxes/DMV fees are state-specific. Here in Virginia they came to around $2000
...also...based on original price before credit
@@NRNaylor thanks, I’m interested in either this or the grand high lander hybrid. I’m sure this cx90 drive much nicer, and the price with rebate is quite attractive.
What kind of fuel economy are you getting on the highway/interstate when the battery is depleted and the vehicle is running on the gas engine only?
25/26 seems right. Near 30mpg on gas motor only on rural two lanes going ~60mph
Did you buy this due to bigger size compared to Rav 4 prime which is very fast and has 40 miles electric range?
RAV4 too small for us. Grand Highlander is the Toyota equivalent (and no PHEV currently). We need a 3rd row, some towing capacity, and like the RWD bias of the Mazda.
R u still happy with it, any issues? I am interested in this car but have seen many customers who have had steering, bushing and battery issues. TIA
Yes, after 12,000 miles we still really like the vehicle. There have been a couple recalls to address a worm gear in the steering and the bushings. We never had any steering issues, but we did have a squeaky front suspension, which was resolved with the bushing fix. We’ve had no battery issues. Still averaging about 60 miles per gallon all in the way we drive and 25+ miles of pure electric on a charge. Really enjoy driving it. I do wish the front seats were more comfortable-our Nissan Quest previously had great seats. That’s the only thing over time that has revealed itself to me.
I would like to see reviews on vehicles that have done some REAL mileage. It seems if a car does more than 10000 K's without an issue that its an achievement.
We’ve got 9k miles / 15k km on ours now. Still too early to make any real assumptions…I would think you want 10x more miles to make a real judgement. There’s been a couple of recalls and we had a squeak on the suspension they had to grease. One recall involved the HVAC system that was just a software update. There is a new recall for a steering spring that we have to take the car in for. We have not experienced any driveability issues tied to these recalls.
is Touch Screen only offered at higher trim? Is the mazda infotainment easy to use?
The infotainment is not touch screen. There’s plenty of complaints online about that but honestly I don’t mind. The dial is pretty intuitive and easy to operate
Have to get the Premium Plus trim to get the 12.25 in screen and touch screen, wireless Android Auto and Car Play
@@susansammy5448 I think you get it in the premium trim too, don’t you?
how do you run the electric adapter
it's a standard 120v household plug; nothing special. We were originally running it under the garage door and plugging it into an outlet in the garage. That outlet was on the same circuit as a garage freezer, power tools, etc. and was only 15A. The circuit breaker flipped a couple of times over the past few months when too much voltage was being pulled from all items. So we instead did a small electrical job of a dedicated circuit to an outdoor plug that we now plug into which has been great. If you have outdoor outlets all on a singular circuit that aren't heavily used for other items they would be fine.
which model is that PHEV? I am in Canada There's no 3 seats on second row. It's pretty frustrating.
This is the PHEV Preferred model. It's the only model available with the second row bench, which was a requirement for us downsizing from a minivan.
@@NRNaylor Which trim of the PHEV for this model.?
@@userchia Preferred (base model)
Many people don’t seem to realize that pure ev mode on cx90 is actually more expensive. 17.8 kWh is almost $5 of electricity which only gives you 20 to 25 miles of range. One gallon of premium gas is around $4.2 in my area, which likely will provide more than 25 miles. So I don’t understand why people would want to use this vehicle as a pure ev.
That’s not right…it’s 33% cheaper for me to run on electricity. I pay $.13 per kWh so $2.31 to fill battery to run 26 miles. A gallon of gas covers same distance and runs me $3.45 right now here. National average kWh is $.14 so most people will see savings if gas stays where it is or increases in price.
Wow. Gas is so expensive there. In Toronto , off peak hours , electricity is $0.09 kwh plus premium gas would be 5.25 USD per gallon for premium
How much down payment did you place towards the vehicle to get the payment low?
We put $5500 down + the $7500 credit and our lease payment came in under $500/mo.
How long is the duration of the lease and miles/year? What would be the total price to buy it out?
@@therealstablemacaw521 36 months and 10k miles/year. Buyout price right now is ~$40k, end of lease term we can purchase vehicle for just under $32k. So if we go through the entire lease and then buy it out, we'll pay about $47k for the vehicle. If we just buy it out this year we'll save that $7k difference (but, of course, if we get a loan elsewhere we'll have interest payments that will make that difference less).
Holy crap ! This guy shit s himself at 5:01 !!!😂😂😂😂😂
the person behind the camera went "hmmm" relax dude
@@Rockybalboa541 Nice try.. every person I know that has reviewed this thinks tbe same. Lol.........
@@peterkoe5044 you both should get your ears checked
Not both. 10 different people about 5 different TV and surround sound systems. Very high fidelity. Unmistakeable.....Ha ! Bose, Infinity, and JBL.......that nasty old fart.
@@peterkoe5044 i just showed about 30 people and they all agree you have hearing problems
I see there is a small moonroof and not a panoramic sunroof ??
correct; the Preferred Plus model is essentially the base model PHEV and doesn't have the panoramic sunroof. We chose this model because it's the only one you can get the middle bench seat with (all higher end models have captains chairs 2nd row) so would allow us to transport the family of 5 and fold the 3rd row for maximum capacity. Despite it being a "base" model, we find it pretty well appointed. Heated leather seats, moonroof, etc. I realize the higher trim models have nicer interior finishes, but the interior on this is still very nice, especially in Greige. Plus, with kids, the materials will wear better than the suede/velour stuff used in higher trims. I do wish I had the nicer wheels and a heated steering wheel...those are the only options I personally miss out on.
CX-90 PHEV 😏
All I hear is someone breathing really hard ahhaha
If you have nothing positive to say, stay quiet!
Are you charging? cause the car should lock when charging!