Here are the links to both Intel and AMD versions: Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (Intel): lenovo.vzew.net/KexgzA Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (AMD): lenovo.vzew.net/YgdLjR
Great Vid! Could you look up the panel manufacturer part number in hwinfo? I'm trying to find the screen from the T14 gen 2 and can only find Lenovo's FRU for it, which isn't helpful The T14s gen 2 (2021) is virtually identical to the T480s (2018), except for the soldered wifi card (boo intel). The only thing I'm interested in is the 4K 500 nit display. Does anyone know the part number for it? I'd like to buy and upgrade from my QHD screen (the 40-pin eDP cable supports both QHD and UHD)
I happen to love the thicker bezels because it also more tougher. God forbid you drop an XPS even slightly the wrong way, you'll be sorry. To me a little thicker bezels while not sexy certainly pay off in terms of durability and the thinkpad isn't aiming for your typical consumer but bussiness segment. Lenovo might not be quick to the switch, but there's some huge plusses for that.
It's definitely a classic. But from a pro user, from a bussiness perspective the classic points you describe are great selling points. For the most part. Especially when we are talking about a price ratio. I remember the 7000 Latitudes back in the day only came with a 720p display as standard, aka lowest configuration. You had to order a 1080p specifically. Now most of us would absolutely demand if we are buying a new high end laptop that it will come with at least a 1080p. As a nerd I absolutely won't settle for less. But Susie over in shipping might only use her computer's actual laptop screen once or twice a year because she's mated to a dock. Why spend extra money for that 1080p screen when it will very rarely be used? True, I still would, but IT budgets are typically geared towards two things.. efficiency and flexibility. They might need 500 mildly configured laptops, 470 with the same configuration and another 30 with very specific features and specifications to meet the job at hand. Oh, and they'll all need to run specific software and communicate on the same network so it also helps to have the right hardware and software image deployments. It's why most of the time bussinesses stick to not just the same vendor but same model family for a long time and a roll out of new laptops is a huge deal to IT staff. Consumers are much different. They want to the latest and greatest that they can afford, slim bodies and glossy screens. They'll pay extra money for crap they don't really need that they think or been told that they need. The bussiness world is much, much different. You don't placate to dolts, you sell to IT managers who typically understand at least the basics of stuff and you had better deliver on what your selling or that customer will leave and take all 500 units plus future sales with them. So in short never ever fall for that starting at price when it comes to bussiness computers. Everything but the right mouse button is extra and it's designed that way for a reason.
I don't mind the bezel since it protects the screen from cracking due to a drop. As a business computer, I don't care about how light it is under 3.5lbs. I mostly care about user experience (connectivity, keyboard, battery life) and reliability so the outdated design doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the heat. That might be an issue in reducing computer life.
I can't decide going with a solid, durable ThinkPad T14/P14s or going for the slimmer X1 Carbon or XPS. Wish we were able to get 32GB RAM at a reasonable price in the slimmer ultrabooks.
The thick bezels are great! An old ThinkPad could take abuse. No need to change. My biggest concern is the keyboard. They simply are crap on ThinkPads since the great T40p I still use occasionally.
I see a lot of critique on some specs and the design of the recent T-series but the T-series has never been the groundbreaking ThinkPad line. If you look into the recent history of the T- and also the L-series, the chassis redesign comes usually after two or three generations. Just an example, the T460 was the first generation that shipped HDMI, whilst consumer lines shipped them years before. (I used this example because that one is most likely the machine that this one will replace for companies that are interested right now) Together with the L-series, this line is aimed at businesses to buy them in a bulk and with that comes price negotiation. This explains Lenovo's choice to use chassis designs for a longer period. Businesses usually refresh their hardware between three and five years, so the new purchase is always a big leap forward in comparison with their current hardware. They don't want the latest and greatest, they want decent machines that fit their budget.
I have to say I'm upset when thinkpad reviewers talk so much about bezels and design (you mentioned it like 3 or 4 times). This is the only notebook made for actual work. If we lose this one, there's no more. I could buy a mac or something if I wanted to look good while holding it but unfortunately that doesn't do it for me. To me mentioning bezels or design for a Thinkpad would be acceptable only in 1 way: to put a big loud disclaimer in front of it saying WITHOUT SACRIFICING FUNCTION: yes if they want to improve design I don't mind. Honestly I don't care, I'm an adult man with a healthy self image. For many other notebooks I don't care if it is the most important parameter I'd just have the 1 that works well instead. The biggest problems are the difficulty of extension and repair, screen and keyboard should be also user replaceable and it should have 2 ram and 2 ssd slots. In this current crazy scarcity I managed to get a P14s r7 5850 at a decent price (not cheap but ok) but it has wrong language keyboard and a bad screen (the 300 nit IPS screen, I never seen such a bad IPS in my life; it's very yellowish, it's horrible honestly. I can get screen replaced but I lose the 3y warranty so I'll think about it) I used 2 HP elitebooks before, dell inspirons, fujitsu lifebook, all of them have crap keyboard in comparison and I remember I had the track point on a HP (or both? don';t remember) but I wasn't using it it was crap. On my new P14s I was using it again instead of trackpad after the first like, 10 seconds and was happy with it.
This PC is okay. Like the 4K lite option. Camera image was fair for a 720p mediocre class of cameras. The microphones sounded a bit muffled and distorted. It sounded like you were talking in some sort of tiny chamber. Could be better. Keyboard is very good. Good selection of ports. Great review as always.
Great review! What are your thoughts about this laptop for a college business student who will be carrying it around all day? The business school IT department recommended either the Lenovo Thinkpad or the DellXPS 13. My older son is in IT, and he told me to get this Thinkpad model, and to stay away from the Dell. My college student will be studying analytics. Thanks for your help!
Thank you for the video, do I have to replace the existing SSD with another SSD hard drive when I want to upgrade the hard drive? or there are enough slots to add another one without replacing the existed one?
i have the gen 1 with 4k display and its amazing. I dislike the new trend of creating super slim laptops with everything soldered on and shalow keyboards, glad to see T14 not going for that. I appreciate the fact they provide better displays in newer models compared to the past, this unit at 4k 500 nits rivals the display of a Macbook imo
Hello. Thanks for the review. I am about to buy a unit like this, and i was planing on changing the ssd for one NVME of 2TB from SuperTalent. Now i see in your video you show "up to 1TB PCIe SSD"(3:55), and i wonder is it really not posible to use a 2TB SSD? Cheers.
I see a lot of planed absolence in this ThinkPad model The components which are soderen in are a sign of that I don't like when I can't change my components :(
Great Vid! Could you look up the panel manufacturer part number in hwinfo? I'm trying to find the screen from the T14 gen 2 and can only find Lenovo's FRU for it, which isn't helpful The T14s gen 2 (2021) is virtually identical to the T480s (2018), except for the soldered wifi card (boo intel). The only thing I'm interested in is the 4K 500 nit display. Does anyone know the part number for it? I'd like to buy and upgrade from my QHD screen (the 40-pin eDP cable supports both QHD and UHD)
I went to the Lenovo web site and noticed if you order the amd version it ships immediately. If you order the Intel version it ships in four months. Does one want to wait that long? There might be an upgraded version by then. Who knows.
I despise thick bezels. I wish Lenovo would deal with their overheating problem and make some laptops in silver and lighter colours, I am so sick of black laptops. It's the little things ya know. lol
I just got the Gen2 model with the privacy guard screen from my company, worst screen I have ever used on a laptop - utterly AWFUL viewing angles (without the privacy guard activated). Annoying widescreen, as mentioned in the video. I have had HP EliteBook 14" for the last 8 years or so and it was a different world screen wise.. The fan is annoying, I hear it almost all the time. The soft feel on the laptop case is pretty awful, don't like it. Personal thing, I know.. The illuminated keyboard sounds nice in theory (2 levels) , but is useless in practice - all I see is a row of lights under the back of the function keys and little else, certainly not the illuminated character (i.e an illuminated Q on that key) like you get on a Macbook, they should look at the MacBook to get an idea of how an illuminated keyboard should look like! The whole case is rather "bendy", more so then the HP I had before. If this is Lenovo's tough business warrior model, I'd hate the think what the cheaper models are like.
Intel T14 is a waste of money. even the i7 cpus come with only 4 cores ...WT* . wait a few weeks and just get the much faster AMD version with Ryzen5 5650u with 6 cores for probably half the price. you can provably the the Ryzen 7 version with double the cores for a less too. why would anyone in his right mind pay good money for the intel versions of this laptop. they're broken
Some people need thunderbolt 4 support. Especially for docks, multiple monitors, and eGPUs. Also Xe graphics as well has been great. That being said I looking forward to reviewing AMD version as well when Lenovo send me one to review.
@@andrewmarcdavid Well to be honest, only a few people use or need it and yea they do. But right now AMD is giving the better bang for buck and making everything possible for everyone. Egpus are also a waste of time and money, just build a gaming PC or buy one. You are limited by the processor with an Egpu and also the connection. Xe graphics is either neck to neck with Vega or worse, do some benchmarks. I use to love INtel when they were the best and AMD was very low quality performance on mobile but the game is over, it's no coming back for Intel unless a consumer really doesn't care or understand CPUs and buys Intel. RDNA , DDR5 USB4 = GAMEOVER!!!
Here are the links to both Intel and AMD versions:
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (Intel): lenovo.vzew.net/KexgzA
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen 2 (AMD): lenovo.vzew.net/YgdLjR
Great Vid! Could you look up the panel manufacturer part number in hwinfo? I'm trying to find the screen from the T14 gen 2 and can only find Lenovo's FRU for it, which isn't helpful
The T14s gen 2 (2021) is virtually identical to the T480s (2018), except for the soldered wifi card (boo intel). The only thing I'm interested in is the 4K 500 nit display. Does anyone know the part number for it? I'd like to buy and upgrade from my QHD screen (the 40-pin eDP cable supports both QHD and UHD)
@@iamdmc thanks for sharing. This (identical to t480) makes me not want to upgrade just yet lol
Where is the Gen 3 review
I happen to love the thicker bezels because it also more tougher. God forbid you drop an XPS even slightly the wrong way, you'll be sorry. To me a little thicker bezels while not sexy certainly pay off in terms of durability and the thinkpad isn't aiming for your typical consumer but bussiness segment. Lenovo might not be quick to the switch, but there's some huge plusses for that.
i totally agree with you. i have an m1 air and im really scared of even taking it outside lmao.
i really sohuld sell it and get another thinkpad xD
Finally a laptop that has the ports I need👍🏾👍🏾
I love the track point! And pity it's so rare among other companies. I hope lenovo will never quit from it!
You said it all:
only 16:9
only 4G
720p camera (and that sound? nah!)
I don't mind dated design, I call it classic! ;-)
For business use, it fits in a reasonable price point for what it offers. If it's not a priority for the next redesign.
It's definitely a classic. But from a pro user, from a bussiness perspective the classic points you describe are great selling points. For the most part. Especially when we are talking about a price ratio. I remember the 7000 Latitudes back in the day only came with a 720p display as standard, aka lowest configuration. You had to order a 1080p specifically. Now most of us would absolutely demand if we are buying a new high end laptop that it will come with at least a 1080p. As a nerd I absolutely won't settle for less. But Susie over in shipping might only use her computer's actual laptop screen once or twice a year because she's mated to a dock. Why spend extra money for that 1080p screen when it will very rarely be used? True, I still would, but IT budgets are typically geared towards two things.. efficiency and flexibility. They might need 500 mildly configured laptops, 470 with the same configuration and another 30 with very specific features and specifications to meet the job at hand. Oh, and they'll all need to run specific software and communicate on the same network so it also helps to have the right hardware and software image deployments. It's why most of the time bussinesses stick to not just the same vendor but same model family for a long time and a roll out of new laptops is a huge deal to IT staff. Consumers are much different. They want to the latest and greatest that they can afford, slim bodies and glossy screens. They'll pay extra money for crap they don't really need that they think or been told that they need. The bussiness world is much, much different. You don't placate to dolts, you sell to IT managers who typically understand at least the basics of stuff and you had better deliver on what your selling or that customer will leave and take all 500 units plus future sales with them. So in short never ever fall for that starting at price when it comes to bussiness computers. Everything but the right mouse button is extra and it's designed that way for a reason.
@@PearComputingDevices Fair points! Thank you for adding it here. We shouldn't forget that ThinkPads are business machines in the first place!
got one of these with the exact specs for around $1k.. cant wait for it to arrive
I don't mind the bezel since it protects the screen from cracking due to a drop. As a business computer, I don't care about how light it is under 3.5lbs. I mostly care about user experience (connectivity, keyboard, battery life) and reliability so the outdated design doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the heat. That might be an issue in reducing computer life.
I can't decide going with a solid, durable ThinkPad T14/P14s or going for the slimmer X1 Carbon or XPS. Wish we were able to get 32GB RAM at a reasonable price in the slimmer ultrabooks.
Without question you have one of the best Channels. Thanks again for all your hard work. The Graphics & Sound quality is #1.
Thanks really appreciate it!
The thick bezels are great! An old ThinkPad could take abuse. No need to change. My biggest concern is the keyboard. They simply are crap on ThinkPads since the great T40p I still use occasionally.
I see a lot of critique on some specs and the design of the recent T-series but the T-series has never been the groundbreaking ThinkPad line. If you look into the recent history of the T- and also the L-series, the chassis redesign comes usually after two or three generations.
Just an example, the T460 was the first generation that shipped HDMI, whilst consumer lines shipped them years before. (I used this example because that one is most likely the machine that this one will replace for companies that are interested right now)
Together with the L-series, this line is aimed at businesses to buy them in a bulk and with that comes price negotiation. This explains Lenovo's choice to use chassis designs for a longer period. Businesses usually refresh their hardware between three and five years, so the new purchase is always a big leap forward in comparison with their current hardware.
They don't want the latest and greatest, they want decent machines that fit their budget.
I have to say I'm upset when thinkpad reviewers talk so much about bezels and design (you mentioned it like 3 or 4 times). This is the only notebook made for actual work. If we lose this one, there's no more. I could buy a mac or something if I wanted to look good while holding it but unfortunately that doesn't do it for me. To me mentioning bezels or design for a Thinkpad would be acceptable only in 1 way: to put a big loud disclaimer in front of it saying WITHOUT SACRIFICING FUNCTION: yes if they want to improve design I don't mind. Honestly I don't care, I'm an adult man with a healthy self image. For many other notebooks I don't care if it is the most important parameter I'd just have the 1 that works well instead.
The biggest problems are the difficulty of extension and repair, screen and keyboard should be also user replaceable and it should have 2 ram and 2 ssd slots. In this current crazy scarcity I managed to get a P14s r7 5850 at a decent price (not cheap but ok) but it has wrong language keyboard and a bad screen (the 300 nit IPS screen, I never seen such a bad IPS in my life; it's very yellowish, it's horrible honestly. I can get screen replaced but I lose the 3y warranty so I'll think about it)
I used 2 HP elitebooks before, dell inspirons, fujitsu lifebook, all of them have crap keyboard in comparison and I remember I had the track point on a HP (or both? don';t remember) but I wasn't using it it was crap. On my new P14s I was using it again instead of trackpad after the first like, 10 seconds and was happy with it.
Great video Andrew, greetings from Thailand
This PC is okay. Like the 4K lite option. Camera image was fair for a 720p mediocre class of cameras. The microphones sounded a bit muffled and distorted. It sounded like you were talking in some sort of tiny chamber. Could be better. Keyboard is very good. Good selection of ports. Great review as always.
Agreed 👍
Great overview, thank you 😊
Video looks good, but sound on the Webcam sounds muffled. Good video
best review ive seen, bravo.
The Camera is amazing and the internal mic isn't bad at all. I was quite impressed by the webcam
Great review! What are your thoughts about this laptop for a college business student who will be carrying it around all day? The business school IT department recommended either the Lenovo Thinkpad or the DellXPS 13. My older son is in IT, and he told me to get this Thinkpad model, and to stay away from the Dell. My college student will be studying analytics. Thanks for your help!
16:10 screen and a second m.2 slot please
Great review as always!
Again awesome review :):) No stopping keep going..:):)
Thank you for the video, do I have to replace the existing SSD with another SSD hard drive when I want to upgrade the hard drive? or there are enough slots to add another one without replacing the existed one?
It has one more M.2 2242 for ssd or 4g WWAN.
i have the gen 1 with 4k display and its amazing. I dislike the new trend of creating super slim laptops with everything soldered on and shalow keyboards, glad to see T14 not going for that. I appreciate the fact they provide better displays in newer models compared to the past, this unit at 4k 500 nits rivals the display of a Macbook imo
Great review
Thank you your video was very helpful
Thanks really appreciate it
your channel deserves more subscribers.
Thanks really appreciate it 👊
Which one is better? dell latitude 5420, 7320, 7420 or this lenovo?
Hello. Thanks for the review. I am about to buy a unit like this, and i was planing on changing the ssd for one NVME of 2TB from SuperTalent. Now i see in your video you show "up to 1TB PCIe SSD"(3:55), and i wonder is it really not posible to use a 2TB SSD? Cheers.
Which one would you recommend between this one and the Latitude 5420? Thanks in advance.
Do you get information between t14 gen 2 and latitude 5420 ?
Which one to buy
X13 Gen 2 or T14s Gen 2?
I am planning to buy within 2 days.
What did you choose?
I got the T15 a month ago but I had to return it because the mic was just awful, absolutely unusable
very cool and informative review, thank-you for your work!
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A great review. Simple and straightforward, especially to a numpty like me :) I am looking at the T15. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
thanks great review,but what's happened to the full review of Thinkpad X1 Yoga Gen 6?
Shooting for tomorrow.
@@andrewmarcdavid thanks a million, good luck❤❤
ThinkPad E14 or T14 is better? Or the difference is not obvious?
The best part about andew is, he wears a jacket, you know what's better, we don't know if he's got any pants on 😂
Hey Andrew! please review the E14 gen 3.
I have it and will get to it shortly.
I see a lot of planed absolence in this ThinkPad model
The components which are soderen in are a sign of that
I don't like when I can't change my components :(
Great Vid! Could you look up the panel manufacturer part number in hwinfo? I'm trying to find the screen from the T14 gen 2 and can only find Lenovo's FRU for it, which isn't helpful
The T14s gen 2 (2021) is virtually identical to the T480s (2018), except for the soldered wifi card (boo intel). The only thing I'm interested in is the 4K 500 nit display. Does anyone know the part number for it? I'd like to buy and upgrade from my QHD screen (the 40-pin eDP cable supports both QHD and UHD)
Hi Andrew. We are waiting ThinkPad 15e gen2 Core i7 review 🙏
Fantastic review than kyou
So it overheats easily? Even in light tasks? I just bought one….💁♂️🤦♂️
Is the thinkpad usb-c dock gen2 docking station supported by this laptop?
Do u recommend this For Programming and Coding? Kindly help me, Need to buy a Laptop for Programming and Coding, ✌️🙏😊
How is it compare to the t14s gen2?
The bezels are just terribble for 2021 / 22 tbh... I use laptops docked most time tho, but when i need to use it, bezeles are huge!
wondering when would you be able to get a hand on x1 extreme gen 4
I went to the Lenovo web site and noticed if you order the amd version it ships immediately. If you order the Intel version it ships in four months. Does one want to wait that long? There might be an upgraded version by then. Who knows.
Yeah not sure what's going on. AMD is also showing over $2k starting price
Both versions are now showing 7-9 business days.
Anyone hear of the trackpoint freezing problem
How good is this laptop in i5,i7?
16:10 please
I am missing the Ethernet port???
I despise thick bezels. I wish Lenovo would deal with their overheating problem and make some laptops in silver and lighter colours, I am so sick of black laptops. It's the little things ya know. lol
What is the purpose of the slide button above the web-camera?
It’s a shutter switch which allows you to block the camera giving you more security and privacy
Is it possible to fit a full size sd card reader?
Is this better tan x1?
nice vid
Need to be updated urgently 2021 last quater
I just got the Gen2 model with the privacy guard screen from my company, worst screen I have ever used on a laptop - utterly AWFUL viewing angles (without the privacy guard activated). Annoying widescreen, as mentioned in the video.
I have had HP EliteBook 14" for the last 8 years or so and it was a different world screen wise..
The fan is annoying, I hear it almost all the time.
The soft feel on the laptop case is pretty awful, don't like it. Personal thing, I know..
The illuminated keyboard sounds nice in theory (2 levels) , but is useless in practice - all I see is a row of lights under the back of the function keys and little else, certainly not the illuminated character (i.e an illuminated Q on that key) like you get on a Macbook, they should look at the MacBook to get an idea of how an illuminated keyboard should look like!
The whole case is rather "bendy", more so then the HP I had before.
If this is Lenovo's tough business warrior model, I'd hate the think what the cheaper models are like.
The webcam quality same as my T470, it's since 2017........ Lol
Could we upgrade to dual channel on this laptop?
Yes
I really need help with a laptop
t14 i5 gen2, over heating..................
Why out dated model
??? This is the latest model
At 4:00 you indicate the SSD can be upgraded "up to 1TB," is there a reason why a 2TB SSD would not work in this unit?
the slot is pretty low profile and ssds over 2tb are often double sided. while they will work flawlessly, it'll put mechanical stress on the ssd.
2tb works. The manual states it, his review was incorrect.
nice Rolex
Intel T14 is a waste of money. even the i7 cpus come with only 4 cores ...WT* . wait a few weeks and just get the much faster AMD version with Ryzen5 5650u with 6 cores for probably half the price.
you can provably the the Ryzen 7 version with double the cores for a less too. why would anyone in his right mind pay good money for the intel versions of this laptop. they're broken
Some people need thunderbolt 4 support. Especially for docks, multiple monitors, and eGPUs. Also Xe graphics as well has been great. That being said I looking forward to reviewing AMD version as well when Lenovo send me one to review.
@@andrewmarcdavid Well to be honest, only a few people use or need it and yea they do. But right now AMD is giving the better bang for buck and making everything possible for everyone. Egpus are also a waste of time and money, just build a gaming PC or buy one. You are limited by the processor with an Egpu and also the connection. Xe graphics is either neck to neck with Vega or worse, do some benchmarks. I use to love INtel when they were the best and AMD was very low quality performance on mobile but the game is over, it's no coming back for Intel unless a consumer really doesn't care or understand CPUs and buys Intel. RDNA , DDR5 USB4 = GAMEOVER!!!