Diana Tells The Queen About The BBC Interview | The Crown (Elizabeth Debicki, Imelda Staunton)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- My dears, watch as these two powerhouses, Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) and Queen Elizabeth (Imelda Staunton), debate calmly but with conviction about Diana's place within the monarchy and the reason behind her choice to do the BBC interview.
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Do you think Diana went too far?
😂 no it was the truth
she did what was right.
Yes. Above all else she should have thought of her children who would grow up to see how ugly their parents were to each other. Everyone involved behaved badly at some stage. She needs to take responsibility for that too, instead of manipulating the media to make herself out to be this fragile victim. I understand she was manipulated herself by Basheer, but it was a terrible mistake she herself regretted eventually. Unfortunately her son has the same petty, vindictive and impulsive streak she did, and look how it’s turned out for him. Only now does he possibly see what a mess he’s made of his life.
Emotionally depressed egoistic family. Queen Elisabeth didn't care about people. Just her reputation. Wearing stolen treasures from colonies. Is far worse than exposing truth. Elisabeth is the mentally manipulating Diana. Her partner is a nazi sympathizer with blood relatives married to nazi leaders.
Yes. She should have been exiled.
these are GOOD actors! the 'queen' actually sounds like the late queen.
The actress playing the queen did an excellent film on abortion many years ago.
Vera Drake. Imelda Staunton was nominated for an Oscar.
No disrespect and it’s just my opinion but I felt Claire Foy and Olivia Colman were both better suited for the role of Queen and their voices were probably the biggest reason. We all interpret things differently of course. I found myself losing interest in this series slowly but surely starting with Season 5. Too many actor changes. Again, I understand the reasons for it and I absolutely loved this show for a long time. Very well done overall.
@@Gagalover1569 I'm not sure how old you are or what kind of movies you're into, but the fact that Imelda Staunton was an amazing choice for one of the most hated Harry Potter characters is a huge hurdle for me. To see her in a sympathetic regal role is very jarring for anyone who absolutely despises Delores Umbridge.
@@brianmurray7980 I’m 55. I wasn’t familiar with Imelda Staunton prior to The Crown. I just said on another post from this series that I really need to start from the beginning now that I know what to expect and just try to focus on the storyline, paying less attention to the actors. Not sure if I can do it but it may be a good winter challenge. I just started watching Peaky Blinders and it seems promising. When super model Stella Tenant committed suicide I had no idea that she came from an aristocratic family. Her grandmother was Deborah Mitford. Just in the last year or so I discovered documentaries on The Mitford Sisters and have been caught up in that. I’m not a huge movie buff per se, but when I’m drawn into something I tend to go hard trying to learn everything about that person or that history or whatever that something maybe. At 55 I’m really enjoying history. I’ve always loved Queen Elizabeth the 2nd and I was 12 years old when Charles and Diana married. I also want to go back and watch more of the classic movies and read more classic books. I am finding it harder to stay focused when reading though. Thank goodness there are more and more docuseries and documentaries and movies based on history and true stories coming out. Audiobooks too! UA-cam is great for all of that. Peaky Blinders has released the first 3 episodes so far (just recently too). So much to learn! I’m not sure how much of this series is factual /fictional. Diana Mitford is a character who appears in 3 episodes I think.
All the Queen had to do was tell her son to stop cheating on his wife. They needed to condemn his actions, not condemn Diana.
Cheating is expected in that social circle.
Dian chose to accept all the privileges of the royal family but rejected the privilege's complement, the rotten morality.
@hera7884 Or maybe they should both have stopped? Remember that Diana had about 9 affairs. Like most troubled marriages, it wasn't all one sided.
@@michaelmontagu3979 Charles always had the other woman. Camilla was always in the picture, from the beginning of his marriage to the very end. Diana never had a choice in the matter. Who do you think started it first? You don’t get the right to choose if your spouse cheats on you or not if you cheated on them first, from the beginning. Your comment makes no sense
@@hera7884 Actually, Diana admitted that she started to have an affair before Charles and Camilla started again. It wasn't all one sided.
The interviewer tricked Diana into giving that interview. He did the same to Michael Jackson.
They thought the press would be on their side? Please.
But it was fair enough bcs she got to tell her side of the story. Bashir's actions and intentions might be wrong but the result was satisfaction for Diana atleast.
@JoanMorrison-vq2jc Diana admitted to the affairs. Further, she grew up in a home where she was exposed to abuse over and over agiain. In the end, Charles and Camilla were in the wrong. They both were way older and knew better. They should have put their foot down. The Queen Mom supported the relationship. The Queen also put her foot down when it came to marrying who she wanted. They both used her as a shield and she was expected to remain steady and devoted to Charles and the crown.
Every Bashir interview I’ve seen, he’s pissed off or rewrote the interview with editing.
Having lived in the limelight for most of their lives, and knowing the reputation of the media, they were not suspicious of giving such interviews? The term "media hounds" should really be "media wolves". They should have known better.
Imelda Staunton is such a great actrtess.
In my opinion, she and Maggie Smith are Britain's best actresses!
@@barbie-li2995 And Dame Judi Dench!
@@Crinkle.Stilt.Skin.Indeed, three wonderful Dames!
The personal, private, and professional landmines the Queen had to navigate on a daily basis makes her longevity as a successful Monarch all the more impressive.
She was a terrible ruler and worse leader. Ruined the lives of her own family members with her bad judgement.
lol ok fanboy
I don't know how much the events and characters correspond to reality but jesus,this series is well written. You can clearly see how Elisabeth has to live two lives behind her stoic face.Each word is fitted between two characters.She as the person and she as the Queen. In addition of that,it's hard to tell which one of them is talking at any given time.Simply,genius writing and acting.
Holy smokes she sounds just like Diana
She’s a Aussie actor and a brilliant one
I've always got the impression the queen tried to defend and help diana, but she was simply from a generation that doesn't do that huggy and everything is going to be okay type support.
The queen simply didn't know how to help her, kinda feel sorry for both of them.
An example of this is when Charles says when he needs cheering up he calls his mistress. The queen scolded him for it and told him to be more supportive of his wife
Then why didn't the queen want to give her a proper royal funeral? Why did the queen take 8 days before going to Aberfan? She never "ran" a country. She was just PR. More vacations than a retired monk.
@michelletodd4893 the Queen was someone who was "by the book". She expected for diana and fergie to be happy. They, after all were married to naval officers. She saw her parents as having a great marriage, as well as her father being a loyal naval officer. She saw the same thing in her own with Prince Philip.
@@branflakes12341 The Queen did not want to help her. It was not about her generation. We can’t blame her failures as a mother figure in her family on her generation. My Mum was of same generation and if she was that cold and uncomplimentary of her son, it would not be overlooked.
@@lekenaackerman9367 things much easier for the Queen and she never realized it.
@MTknitter22 I have to disagree. She had to find a balance between being a good mother and being the queen. Charles and Anne are two that she did not understand. They are very different in terms of personalities. She had good mothering instincts, however because she was a mother figure to Lady Sarah. That all being said, I think she thought that if you are married to an officer, you are doing something good. It is pretty much all she has known. Diana was on another level altogether. She (diana) had people working against her: Camilla, the press, Princess Anne, The Queen Mom, Princess Margaret, her brother, her mother and her grandmother. That is a lot and I am sure that because the Queen had this "bound by duty" attitude, she didn't know how to help Diana. I think that Diana was looking for a mother figure. She had a father figure in Prince Philip, but it wasn't enough for her.
The height difference between the 2 actresses is striking.
Queen Elizabeth was quite small
And Diana was very tall obviously. I once saw footage of the real Diana bowing to the emperor and empress of Japan, 2 short people. Diana had to take a deep lunge but it was graceful.@@martino2794
I saw the Queen and she was tiny
@@martino2794Elizabeth Debicki is also quite tall.
Yeah I met our late Queen and she was tiny, and I'm only a 5'9" guy!
The gaslighting of it all..”no,it’s in your head, it’s always been in your head”.. diana was no saint and did some questionable things but to say she had not suffered is simply untrue.
It's a drama 'everything behind closed doors I imagined' the writer has said that
She did not say she didn’t suffered she said the enemy was in her head because she thought they were plotting against her, Diana was paranoid at the end and tricked into the interview
The way I look at it, Diana had to learn what Harry needs to learn; when you are a member of the Royal Family you don’t belong to yourself but rather to the nation. There are a lot of benefits that come with being in the Royal Family but there are also sacrifices to be made. I feel that a lot of people will ask me if Diana was to live in misery and I will say no. But she had two choices: Either conform to the rules or get out. Same goes for Harry.
This 'saint', she's no 'saint'... what does that mean? Wasnt the husband cheating?
It was a bit different for Harry in that it was Meghan who did not want to confirm to the idea that the press had the right to mock her then unborn child by portraying him as a monkey with her having to simply take that gross insult in silence. For her there was no choice but to get out of a system that would allow such blatant disregard of her child but Harry was understandably torn. He loved his blood family, quirks and all, but he had a wife and children to protect and defend when no one else in the family seemingly would. Like Diana, Harry spoke and wrote his truth and it hurt many he loved but it was his experience so I respect him for sharing it. Reconciliation seems impossible but I'm hopeful that time will heal the wounds on both sides, at least for the sake of the children who shouldn't be punished for adults behaving badly.
The sad truth is, Diana was probably never going to be happy.
I get your point
It’s thought she had borderline personality disorder, which is hard enough but the one thing he sought, closeness, was never going to happen in that family.
How terrible for Diana , Charles, and Camilla. They should have never forced him away from Camilla. He loved her for years before he met Diana. Charles and Diana should’ve never been married. I know this isn’t going to be a popular opinion, but there it is.
I agree 100%. It was basically an arranged marriage. The one thing the Queen got wrong.
If Charles loved Camilla so deeply, he ought to have married her before she married someone else. If Camilla loved Charles so deeply, she ought to have waited until Charles was ready. They both need to accept responsibility.
@@artforlifeladyIn addition to the other thing she got wrong- raising her children without love and warmth. Another thing she got wrong is organising the dismissal of Australia’s Prime Minister, Mr Gough Whitlam.
Charles wanted to marry Camilla way back when, but his Godfather, Lord Mountbatten, was against it and convinced Charles, who respected him more than his own father, and the Queen and PP to go along...he didn't think Camilla was good enough or pretty enough for him...and Camilla ended up quickly moving on and married, basically the first person to come along and started a family...then shortly thereafter, it's horrible to say, but Lord Mountbatten was assassinated....of course, how would Charles know that was going to happen....
You’re so right.
She never should have done that interview, neither should have the Prince of Wales, now The King.
I agree. The Panorama interview, as well as Andrew Morton's book, set forth a chain of events that led to Diana's death. She died 20 months after that damned interview.
If anything it finally ended the marriage
@@kevq761 🤣😂what marriage are you talking about? A paper doesn't make a marriage.
@@potocatepetl oh yes it does, historically marriage was just that - a paper.
@@MarianDown they didn't marry centuries ago for this statement to make sense. He pretended to love her for the entire world to see and he brought innocent children into this world without a second thought. He is responsible for all the mess that came afterwards.
It must have been so difficult for Her late Majesty to understand the public airing of grievances when she had been brought up to just remain silent and manage through.
It must've been so difficult for her late Majesty to understand that the whole "grin and bear your cross silently" approach was highly unhealthy and potentially counterproductive. It must've been further difficult for her to understand that this approach is even unhealthier for people who aren't brought up that way... and/or people whose very nature goes against it.
@@Essenceofblood5238
There’s a difference between stuffing feelings and regurgitating them without restraint on anyone in earshot. There’s a middle ground.
I hardly believe she had any idea what was going on around her most of the time. She was an immensely simple woman, despite anything this series claims.
Stop calling her that. Stop celebrating a dictatorship.
The Diana’s were so good! Kudos to the casting director!
Diana was not a perfect angel. She made many mistakes.
And Harry carries on with the same narrative 🤦♀️
Poor Diana was not a good fit for that family. She was too young to know what she was truly marrying into.
No they didn’t deserve her
@@Christi-bt5ef Not a question of deserving. Just a bad match from both sides from the start.
@@gabrieleortiz5041 yes. Remember the Muslim doctor she was deeply in love with but he would not marry her? He and his family realized she had big problems and although he loved her, he understood marriage is serious and Diana was all about HER needs.
@@AndyBluebear-fi9om think of this perspective they manipulated her. I’m Team Diana
@@Christi-bt5ef I'm not sure they did...but she was manipulated into giving the interview.
What a crock of crap. All the queen really wanted was for Diana to "behave herself,...meaning "put up and shut up". Meanwhile Chuck was very happy with his permanent (even today!) side piece.
I will never refer to her as "Queen" Camilla.
How many "side pieces" did Diana have? Did anyone keep count? She even admitted she was the first to stray, as even she mentioned that Charles and Camilla had no "contact" until 1986 when Charles could see that Diana was involved with Hewitt (two years after Harry was born in case anyone wants to start in on that).
She in indeed the Queen. Queen Camilla 🫅
It’s wasn’t hostility they felt. They felt nothing. They were callous, self serving & remote..
Were AND are
Gotta love queenie patting herself on the back for not bad-mouthing Diana, as if that itself was an achievement worthy of admiration. Congrats, Lizzie-you did the absolute minimum.
One can only hope the real person wasn’t as meager a human as this.
I think the representation was closer than most would like. Elizabeth kept herself walked off from all but a trusted few and I had the feeling she was so adept at it she even forgot who she was as she became absorbed by the mythical Crown and Country trope. The girl she was died the moment she was crowned and through many trials she became the enigma many loved and mourned.
Walled off, not walked off lol. Darn autocorrect 😂
when she says "Not. Once." it's like all the air gets sucked out of the room.
She went too far . Not fair for her children
Yes it was an incredibly selfish thing to do to her children, esp William who was at such an awkward age. Did she even brother to tell him in person before it aired?
This scene got me choking on all the gaslight fumes
I do understand where you are coming from but Diana was known to be an incredibly irritating attention seeker.
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405tbh so was Charles and the queen incredibly out of touch and self indulgent privileged inbreds
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405yep she was a ridiculous spoiled drama queen.
@@marietighe6328 the only queen she was ever gonna be!
@@jonathanlandau-litewski7405 was she really? Or you just like to see it that way.
Diana's pain can be felt in this scene
HER PAIN ?! SHE WAS LYING IN THIS INTERVIEW TO DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF CHARLES ! HER INTENTION WAS TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE
FOR CHARLES TO BECOME KING ! DIANA WAS AN IMMATURE GIRL WHO REFUSED TO GROW INTO THE ROLE SHE MARRIED INTO.
BECAUSE OF HER, THE MONARCHY HAS TURNED INTO A SOAP OPERA !
I felt the Queen’s pain
She was a drama queen
Diana was so selfish
@@michellelaviolette574 me too
not queen gaslighting the shit of her lmao, 3:32 the amount pain and hopelessness in her eyes here is unreal. I can’t imagine enough how she’s deeply suffered in her life by simply wanting to be loved and comforted and cherished. That’s all. she’s didn’t asked too much but of course the world like usual is turned against her and for people like her. may she rested in peace. And forever remembered x
Queen Elizabeth's feeling towards Diana didn't matter. She was the mother of her grandchildren and had a duty to keep an eye on Diana for William and Harry's sake, however Martin Bashir convinced Diana through fake bank statements that the Royal Family were spying on her, which in turn made her ditch her RPOs. (Royal Protection Officers)
@@sickpup820 Very well said. Bashir's evil ability to play with Diana's head was very bitter and enormously cut throat for Diana. This interview was a disaster for both of them. The singer Michael Jackson wasn't too impressed by his interview with Bashir either.
What a great example of the gaslighting 😏
I’m sorry but the queen was absolutely trying to gaslight Diana here, she treated her awfully as much as Charles has
This show really cast Elizabeth in a positive light. From start to finish, I can't think of a single time they made her unsympathetic or in the wrong. Which is...suspicious.
An interesting take. I think the show, in general, casts her in an unflattering (at best) light. Someone who is emotionally distant from her family & arguably a poor mother. Someone who is out of touch with the common Briton, especially in the latter half of her reign. Someone who strives for quiet and tranquility yet unwilling to resolve the issues that create turmoil & chaos. Keeping in mind that the show is more fiction than reality, we can debate the causes of her personality & decision making but I finished the series with a sense of sadness - that while she was good at her day job, her family life suffered because of her (in)actions.
@@robertdickson9319 and it's all presented in a "oh wow, how hard for her" manner every time.
I don't think she's cast in a good light here. She's gaslighting Diana. Of course the rest of the family perceived Diana as a showboat and a problem. They were used to a way of interacting with the press and being worshipped until Diana swooped in, basically from the future, to usher in an entire new level of access to the royal family and its problems.
Suspicious would be bashing the Queen, who was nothing but utterly dutiful and loyal to the country.
Really she was the villain to her sister Margaret when she forced her not to marry the man she loved because he was divorced… then the same character flaw came up when she forced Charles not to marry the one he loved because she was divorced… the Diana situation was a culmination of the Queen’s own failings and callous disregard for the people around her
Such a devastating scene! Truly makes me wonder if Diana did go to warn Her Majesty before the interview and if she did, I can absolutely see the Queen and Diana having this very conversation. How much did Diana regret in that moment? Would she take it back if she could after? And then the fact she was manipulated into the interview. Al the stuff not being said here. Fascinating! The Crown is truly sublime.
Diana didn't go the the Queen to warn her before the interview. (Told by the staff of the palace)
NOT ONCE
3:51
THEY BROUGHT PRINCESS DIANA BACK TO FVCKNG LIFE! THE RESEMBLANCE IS UNCANNY!
I think she's definitely taller than the real Diana though
@@pazuzu126she is in heels yeah great Australian actress
@@pazuzu126she is, elizabeth debicki is 6’3 while diana was 5’10.
Also, as this fictional show does NOT explain, Prince Charles tried during the early years of his marriage to get Diana all the help she needed. He hired therapist after therapist, but Diana ultimately refused treatment. That isn't entirely her fault: from personal experience I know that therapy for mental illness is Very, VERY hard and difficult to do. But if you refuse it, you refuse the treatment. Diana also refused psychiatric medicine because of the stupid false stereotype that psychiatric meds implies that you're "doing drugs". We can see where she's coming from, but, for this woman to EVER have implied that no one tried to help her is BEYOND a lie. She could just never, ever accept that anything, anything was partially her fault.
I also think she had post partum depression with one child. She also had anorexia nervosa.
@@BunnyWatson-k1wYes
He was severely gaslighting her in their marriage and all those supposed therapists were to reinforce that. Ending his extra-marital affair and not being a spoiled brat who resented his wife for being popular would have been a far more genuine and fruitful attempt to help. I understand Charles has spent the past years putting considerable effort and money into his false victimhood PR - but I CANNOT understand people actually buying that about ‘Prince’ “do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales in history not to have a mistress?”. We also have video evidence of how much he has publicly humiliated Diana such as their engagement interview or that time he ‘joked’ about having two wives. Pathetic.
@@BunnyWatson-k1w No.. The late Princess of Wales was bulimic.. there is a big difference between the two disorders!
@@ElvenSkywalkerI think the only mistake Diana did was to think Charles was in love with her
Such great acting from both actresses . Looks so realistic. Poor Princess Diana . All she wanted was to be loved and accepted by the royal family. She had a beautiful aura. May she always rest in peace. Ameen 😢
Nah i there was always something slippery about Diana- i never could put my finger on it but personally all the charity event and hospital visits were for show especially after they got divorced.
I always felt sorry for Charles more i personally think he was pushed into the marriage more than Diana - she could of always said no.
I dunno she always seemed to 'have butter wont melt' look and personality to me. Unlike Kate who you can tell is geninue and not playing up for the cameras 😊
I loved Diana like everyone else at the time, but in hindsight, it was clear she had massive mental health problems, was headstrong and would do anything to get her own way, including shooting herself in the foot. While she may have won the battle of public opinion at the time, her cooperating with Andrew Morton with his book and then the BBC interview, she was the author of her own demise which lead to her divorce and ultimate death. And as a result, she left her two boys without a mother and Camilla as Queen of England. What a horrific, needless tragedy.
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I don't think she married Charles just for a title. I do believe she loved him but it was a fantasy-romantic love straight out of Disney and she had no idea how to make a successful marriage. And while I never liked Fergie and thought she was a disaster as a member of the RF, I do believe she genuinely loved Andrew.
@@01Mary02
And still does.
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc I think Andrew & Sarah really do love each other. I don't like either of them, but they seem to want to stick with each other. As far as Diana is concerned, she was too young and too emotionally damaged to be able to be a good wife, especially as Charles was also emotionally damaged from his childhood. He couldn't give her what she needed and she couldn't give him what he needed.
I believe Catherine really does love William, but I don't think Meghan has ever loved Harry. He was simply a tool for her to get that worldwide fame she's been after her whole life.
Diana was only 19 and it must be devastating to know that your husband loves somebody else. I still remember when asked if they were in love, Diana answered “of course”and Charles said “whatever loves means”. If he can respond like that in public, how do we know how he acts or makes her feel in private. A very “normal” person could easily develop mental health issues under those circumstances.
@@ruizhiqiu2109 I don't disagree with you entirely. I think the way he treated her certainly contributed to her mental health problems, but I believe it started when her parents divorced.
The queen was so very right here. Don't know if this really happened but I hope she said this to Diana.
its funny you think Elisabeth would have had more sympathy after all how many time a people did Phillip cheat on her with. How many times did she over look it since she wanted him demanded him threw a tantrum to marry him until everyone gave in. she always seemed to forget no one wanted her to marry Phillip because of the STRONG ties his family had with the Nazis as in he met the head crazy many times close. she was a great queen but like all people made a sh*t ton of mistakes. the problem was her word was law in her family if she said no you can't get married they couldn't so she broke up couples many times and then was shocked at the outcome and how they behaved like she didn't have an ounce of guilt for it when she held her breath to marry the man she wanted but couldn't allow others to do the same.
I know this is pure fiction, but the idea that the Queen is too busy to spare even 10 minutes with her daughter-in-law is a feeble excuse.
"the queen gaslights Diana"
I think if the queen had been wiser 20 years before the marriage, she would’ve treated Diana with much more protection, consideration and respect, I also think if she wouldn’t have been advised or influence, she would’ve probably been much more a mother figure to her. Things might’ve been very differently, but history is sadly a game that is watched from the backseat.
I think she would have pushed harder for the marriage with Charles and Camilla
Diana was divorced and had no right to get the privilege of royal protection..
Respect is earned.
Very true. Diana was a supernova star and Queenie did not see it.
@@mjremy2605yes
Incompatible worldviews! Each is behaving reasonably according to their own understanding of the world, and each is utterly incapable of truly seeing the perspective of the other. An elementary tragedy of human nature so timeless, that would even make the ancient Greeks weep in sympathetic recognition.
Always people who "misbehave" meet with coldness and judgment from those who behave, which gives the people who misbehave an excuse to double down and so on in a spiral.
The Queen is bound by honour and duty to her people and her commonwealth. Or as Richard III ( always signed on his letters ) honour and loyalty binds me. This is the backbone of the English Monarchy ( well, it was anyway ) . Queen Elizabeth II as did Queen Elizabeth I devoted her entire life to the crown and its people. Princess Diana was not the same , she was of an entirely different era. She gave her love freely and was always compassionate to everyone, but when it wasn't returned in kind , well we all know what happened. Prince Charles and yes I still say Prince ( he will never be a King ) was a spoiled little dandy . Just like his paedophile of a brother. Thinking you are above everyone else, simply does not make it so.
Diana was an angel , unfortunately not deserving of us.
and to think that ninny now gets to wear the crown and cavort with the horsey mistress
This is the problem with the lower nobility and commoners; living the life of a royal IS NOT for amassing glory and or attention for yourselves. To be royal is a calling, to do 'The LORD's work' on Earth, and to preserve and perpetuate King David's bloodline as prophesied and promised. Royalty is not some tourist peculiarity but individuals called, chosen, and ordained in being 'anointed Servants of The LORD God.' Our Royal Person is grievously annoyed how much the common populace idol worship royal personages including those who have passed away. It is not wrong to hero-worship honourable people but to idol worship is High Treason against The Creator. STOP idol worshipping! And STOP being jealous or resentful towards wealthy people who live and or work in palaces. We all have tasks to fulfill on this Earth. We are not all equal so cease this fraudulent American way of thinking and political warfare in trying to force everyone to be alike or equal. There will always be a separation of classes because human society was structured to exist only under monarchial governance as it is in 'the Kingdom of Heaven.' People need to wake up and grow up. And furthermore, royalty should only marry royalty. Anything contrary to this only invites ongoing grief and strife no reasonable individual would ever want. God bless 'the Christian British Empire.'
Charles 1 lost his head because he thought he was endorsed by god. Inbreeding gave Andrew's daughter a bent spine.
@@deserteagle-nx1hl- 'Charles I' was murdered because he kept the nobility in check and wholly did not appreciate their attempts at diminishing God-ordained royal power.
@@deserteagle-nx1hl what rubbish are you talking?
@@glen7318 Expand on why my reply is rubbish. If not, you are intellectually lazy.
Did this conversation really happend back in the day?
Diana lost the feeling who she can trust and who not and Bashir took advantage of that.
We all think of Diana as a loving and caring mother. But i ask you: By that interview her Boys were 13 and 11 years old. Did she do them a favour by speaking like that publicly? I dont think so....
they both need to win an emmy this year!!!
Do we still think the Royal Family has nothing to do with Diana's death?
There were two lengthy inquests: one in Paris and one in London. The family who was to blame for the deaths is the Fayed family. There should have been an escort vehicle. The chauffeur was proven to be drunk. The car was in poor condition. The only survivor was the bodyguard who was the only person wearing a seatbelt and should have insisted that everyone else wore theirs. The chauffeur was goading the paparazzi . . . the list goes on. The Royal family had no idea where Diana was, but thought she was on her way back to London to spend a couple of days with her sons before they returned to school. At the time of the accident, Charles had access and the boys were spending the summer at Balmoral as they did every August.
Diana please get over yourself
Lol
Two great actresses.
Queen Elizabeth did not want Diana to be happy. Queen Elizabeth wanted Diana to choose service and duty over happiness. That was instilled into Queen Elizabeth from the moment she was born. Unfortunately, that was not instilled into Princess Diana. I don't think either woman was wrong. I think both women came from different eras in their life. I am 61 years old and my era was to protect the family image at all cost. So I can relate to Queen Elizabeth. However, this generation as well as Diana's generation could care less about the protection and image of the family. I have since now come to believe that there has to be a balance . If that protection is causing you unbearable pain and suffering, revealing the truth is better than a lifetime of misery. I watched my sister spiral into drugs protecting the secrets of the family. Death became her only peace.
The British are cultists of the Queen, even the most poor and under the bus Britons venerate the queen, to me, very far removed from that world, think that the queenie was full of herself.
I like the inference that busy people don’t have you on their mind as much you have them on yours. It’s true, and too many times I was the less busy one.
2:29 nnnnot OONNNCE!
I think the Queen did as good a job in her role as any human could have. But she *was* human. And I think, like so many people whose priority it is to present a united front or keep a stiff upper lip, she may have got this wrong. I think she ignored relational and other problems in the hope they would go away. And they didn't. And people got even more hurt.
The poor queen had to deal with drunk Margaret, the mentally unstable Diana and then the most horrible of all the narcissist Nutmeg. May the queen RIP
On the contrary. The Queen shafted Margaret by preventing her happy marriage to Peter Townsend, Equerry (Aide de Camp) to her father, while banishing him to a distant post never to see Margaret again. She drove Margaret to drink. Margaret was more beautiful and would have made a much better Queen being smart, saucy, pretty, and very charismatic as opposed to stodgy Elizabeth. More hypocrisy by Queenie when her daughter Anne, married the Equerry to Queen Elizabeth, Mark Phillips. The exact scenario again but this time Elizabeth did not prevent the marriage by threatening to cut off Anne from the royal family and funds if she married an Equerry. How's that for hypocrisy?
Elizabeth was a terrible mother to Charles, who grew up very unhappy with little contact from his mother. She forced Charles to marry Diana who he did not love, and give up Camilla, who was the love of his life. This caused a huge rift between Diana and Charles. Diana divorced him, and was so desperately unhappy with royal servants spying on her and reporting back to Queenie, and being made to follow Charles around and not be free. This caused her to escape to other places and caused her demise. Charles ended up marrying Camilla after she was divorced from her husband. So now, Charles married a divorcee, but became king. How ironic because King Edward, Duke of Windsor had to abdicate when he married a divorcee. Isn't that bald faced hypocrisy by Queenie? Charles should be disqualified from being king since he married a divorcee too. Right? For all her disapproval of Diana, Queenie did not realize that her own star was dimmed by the brilliant light of Diana in the public relations dept. Diana was a supernova star on the world stage. Elizabeth paled by comparison. Diana could do more for the royal family than all the other members combined. She was never utilized for PR, given any respect, and made happy. So very stup*id of Queenie. Diana was never mentally unstable. She was a rock of endurance and tenacity.
The Queen also was responsible for splitting up Fergie and Andrew who still love each other, and still live under one roof while being divorced on paper to suit the Queen. Andrew ended up a Pedo, and guess who brought him up? Yes, Your Queenie. Pedo son. But she forgave him and paraded him in visible royal public events. Hmmm.
Finally, not having done enough mischief and damage to people's lives, Queenie managed to ruin her grandson's life with his new wife, Meghan. Harry was the spare, it mattered not one bit who he married. But nasty racist stuff about Meghan was published to the press by Charles, William, Camilla with Queenie's approval. This was a young couple starting out on their life, deeply in love, Meghan was a few years older and had the right mothering touch for Harry who lost his mum early in life. Meghan was a brilliant PR move for the royal family because she was non-White and this was a way to connect to all non-White people from previous colonies and empires. Meghan was the new Diana in fact. If Queenie had been smart and seen that, she would have used Meghan & Harry for all the tours in places like India, Africa, South America, etc. You had two sets of young royals: Will & Kate, Harry & Meg that would have injected life back into a dying institution that is more a habit than a need or desire. But again, Elizabeth showed poor judgement and banished them into exile, cutting off all funding and even security for their family. Absolutely damning move. A very politically damaging move too. Now you have Kate with cancer occupying William, and no Harry as backup, and Charles too old to do anything, with a wife everyone has not forgiven. See how badly this Queenie rules?
Meghan is not a Narcissist. She is a self made, hard working woman who became a successful actress and has now snagged a top royal as her husband. She has made a lovely family, they support themselves with no parasitic living off British taxpayers. She has a loving relationship with her mother, Doria, and has cut off her half siblings and father who are frankly an embarrassment to themselves and trying to make money off her fame. Her sister, Samantha wrote a nasty book about Meghan for no reason at all. Did Meghan do anything to any of them? No. She kept to herself and she has a right to choose her friends. They have no right to defame her and Harry. Harry won his lawsuit against the British press, which proves they wrote lies.
Anything else you want to be combative about? You are short on facts, and big on myths. Wake up and adjust to reality. The queen was a political disaster. She had no head for leadership or knowing who would be the best political allies in the royal family. She chased away three brilliant stars: Margaret, Diana, Meghan. She probably felt threatened by each of them. She tried to destroy them. Margaret died so conflicted. She loved her sister, but her sister tore up her romance. Diana died hounded by the press and made to look like the wandering wife, when in fact, it was Charles who was wandering into Camilla's garden. Meghan came with so much hope and wanting to please the royals, but she was humiliated, snubbed, and disrespected by them all till Harry had to leave to save his marriage. So, how smart is that for a political ruler whose only job is PR for the press? Elizabeth was a useless ruler and lousy leader.
@@mjremy2605 Margaret reached the age where she could marry Townsend without permission. I think you forget that back in the day divorce was a scandal, and Townsend was divorced. The rules were changed earlier this century when not only Margaret but three of the Queen's children divorced. Townsend was sent away for a couple of years until Margaret reached the age where she could make the decision without permission. He returned and they were talking about marriage. However, Margaret understood that she would have to give up her title and entitlements to marry a divorcee, and felt that her lifestyle was more important than Townsend. Margaret most certainly would not have made a better queen. She had no sense of duty and life was just one long party for her. She took a trip to America and was roundly criticised by the Americans for her lengthy partying sessions.The monarch needs to be as you described QEII - not a party girl who was frequently drunk and didn't get out of bed every day until midday. She had charities she had to work for, but didn't seem to be bothered. Anne could marry an Equerry because neither party was divorced. There's a difference. The objection wasn't the equerry. It was the divorced equerry. In the day, divorcees weren't acceptable in society.
@@mjremy2605 Diana was unstable and cheated on Charles like million times.
@@mjremy2605 Diana cheated on Charles like million times
Elizabeth’s silence speaks volumes about how much they didn’t care.
The palace made Diana out to be an attention seeking monster. Diana's relationship with Charles was abusive and the sooner she escaped the better. RIP Diana.
Diana was abusive to everyone around. Charles loved and still loves Camilla. Diana wrecked marriages and had it off with as much as she could. Sweet Diana? No wa.
imelda staunton is magnificent in all her roles
Wow! Isn’t this interesting? Absolutely nonsense, but I realize it’s dramatic license. The Queen was one cold individual, and she never thawed, especially now!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of gaslighting. RIP Diana, you deserved so much better than those ennui- filled, over privileged cold false figureheads.
Diana never deserved a prince.
It was her choice. Nobody held a gun to Diana's head. I wouldn't want to take on one of my sister's cast-offs.
She did it in secret. This scene is not real
Yes, correct. This is a fictional television show.
No...my understanding was this did actually happen...Diana even arranged the broadcast date as a surprise for the then prince Charles birthday and the queen and prince philips anniversary...
I have often wondered if the feeling portrayed here by the queen were rather accurate. Prince Philip was truly mad as in effectionate for Diana continued till the divorce and she started giving public interviews and I've often wondered if Charles power with literally creating the most powerful money worth position in the royal family and his personal hostility towards her was misrepresented of the entire family.
If you think I'm wrong, the last prince of Wales had roughly 1 million pounds when he left his role. He hid it of course. Now, the property incomes alone associated with the Dutchy of Cornwall are rumored to be worth billions.
is English your second language?
Disfunctional and AWKWARD.....
Diana was a bit off..
She had mental health issues.
A bit
had the queen shown a little visible compassion to Diana in the beginning when she had begun to confront issues arising from her failing marriage , she would have not felt left out, Queen thought just like Princess Margaret handled the rejection during her marriage time Diana would also make peace out of it but Dianna was a sensitive woman.
Congratulations you did have time to think about your anniversary, your majesty
Did Diana not curtsey to the Queen when she walked into the room????
I doubt any of these conversations really happened with Diana and The Queen because the princess knew what she was doing to create as much publicity as possible.
Diana was always just a breeding machine used to produce the next king..
lol this was later copied by Meghan Markel on Oprah 😂 Megan knew nothing about the royal family…. She just wanted to be the new Princess Diana 2.0😂
I kinda agree with the Queen here, but I imagine her courtiers and advisers were doing their best to stir things up and make life difficult for the princess & the Queen. If only families didn't have press advisers eh?
Calm fury from Her Majesty.
This actress is great on her roll playing Diana, she also look a lot like her.
Im no longer a royalist. Once the events of Aug 31, 1997 occured, something in me made to lose respect and admiration for the crown
Why? Do you think they are responsible for a drunk driver getting behind the wheel of a car and driving 100 kph through city streets?
The family responsible for Diana's death was found to be the Fayed family - as well as the paparazzi.
Diana, never liked her, always portraying the victim, the fact is that she chose that life, she married a man she knew didn't love her. Also, Charles, come on. You should have never married her either. These two were just not meant to be.
Lots of women are and were jealous of her. Team Diana, always.
PhD-level gaslighting.
As the Queen said what Diane is saying is repetitive, King Charles when he was a Prince, Fergie, Megan, Harry, and probably others. If there is no time or empathy for close Family members or staff there is something sadly lacking in that institution they revere so much. People have to remember the Queen was brought up by her grandmother, Queen Mary and the Queen's mother who were extremely rigid in their 20th Century culture when marriage had to be endured whatever the circumstances. The Queen had a difficult marriage herself and she did not attend school or university so its amazing how astute and successful she was in her reign. She set a high bar for her successors to achieve. Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth😢
The queen had a tailored education by many tutors because her career was by the age of 10. She had a very successful marriage with Philip. All of the rumors of strife between the two of them are just idle gossip. They had a normal marriage and Philip was faithful to the end. accusations of affairs are simply ridiculous
@@marielfalk4537 people like you who are continual deny of reality are the main cause of stress and problems in families. You need to do a bit more research and reading instead of looking through rose tinted glasses.
I think she expected Diana to act like an adult when all she was was a selfish, damaged child.
I highly doubt the Queen ever spoke so coldly to Diana. I feel this show is over exaggeration of these two characters. Queen might was unable to understand her but i don't think so she was that rude.
Diana's character was also over exaggerated and somewhere crossed the line. She never would vote a NO for manarchy as shown in the show. She herself said in the panorama interview that how can she destroy the establishment her son's future depend upon.
@thechuckleshow2470 you'd be surprised. She had her dad in her. Meaning, she was more than capable of showing emotion. She and Diana didn't really get along. But, she was the queen. 🤷🏿♀️
0:49 a 3m tall Diana next to the short Queen. 😂
different generations will give a different response
Defence out of obligation and not love is sort of irrelevant.
She was tricked into it .. she was manipulated into it..
i cannot understand "one sided love", LOVE will be mutual, if its not mutual, its not LOVE. in such situations they should turn into friendship.People marry for many reasons. some wants a family they feel secure, some marry friends,lots of reasons people marry, that will not work that way.some PARENTS teach their sons in India from childhood they will get a FREE BANK if they marry a women, so they marry.
Such a captivating upload.
And this scene shows where Harry gets his selfish, narcissistic & vile ways from - his late mom
She said everyone wishes her to be happy... yet, a few moments before she recounted she always defended her to everyone... everyone who? The Queen really did hide away from speaking with her and others over the years. Avoided difficulties. She wasn't busy all the time.. She had quite a bit of free time, if she thought Diana of importance.
Diana wasn’t important to her
These actresses are superb. Well done.
I cant stand the stench of hypocrisy around Diana. She was "intimate" with a string of men during the period that Charles fell back in love with our current Queen. From the captain of the England rugby team, to London playboys, Harley Street Doctors, to an army officer called James Hewitt. Just Google James Hewitt, Prince Harry to confirm Harry's paternity, they are like peas in a pod which, I believe is why Harry behaves so badly towards his brother, Harry knows who his real father is. It's so, so easy to throw mud at the royals but when you consider that the Queen knew about Diana Spencer's hypocrisy, it's little wonder that her majesty was annoyed by Spencers simperring attempts to destroy the monarchy.
BS..They were horrible to her, asking her to stay married while her husband the now king behaved like a trollop, she's suppose to look the other way, bollocks!
I find the "we're busy" defense to be BS. A senior member of your family's well being and success should be a priority that you would carve out time for. Instead of denying her request, an effort could have been made to reschedule. You make time for the things, the people, you care about.
TMI here, but shortly after Diana was killed, I realized how unhappy I was in my own marriage and finally got divorced. Things can change in an instant, don’t waste a single moment being unhappy.
I lost all respect for Diana after her trashy tell all bio. She was still fully in the family ….taking advantage of the obscenely wealthy privilege the life afforded her, while whining endlessly about abuse. Such a child. Plenty of people in her position have formed separate independent lives and trudged on. Her tell all accomplished NOTHING.
If the queen had allowed Charles to marry Camilla in the first place then none of this would have happened
why do i have a feeling that this conversation or parts of it never happened in real life
The Queen knew about charles and Camilla
I think it’s amazing how much they were able to make Melania look like Princess Di here.
He had a close relationship with his mother and sisters. Are any of his family side involved with his so called church?
What a range of opinions we have here on what was going on in that scene! Do they have much to do with what was said there, or what we know of the real events, or do they depend more on who and what we are ourselves?