Zoom F1-SP field recorder with shotgun microphone - test and best settings
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2020
- The zoom f1-sp field recorder with shotgun microphone is a high quality audio recorder and shotgun microphone package, designed for UA-camrs and independent film makers. It offers a high quality shotgun microphone, the Zoom SGH-6, and field recorder, the Zoom F1, all in one budget friendly package.
In todays video I provide audio samples, and run a range of tests to determine the best setting to use the Zoom F1-SP field recorder with shotgun microphone I test gain settings, the low cut filter options, and the limiter. I also provide some edited audio and include the EQ settings I have used in post production (editing).
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Perfect video - THANK you!
Thanks for the very useful video
Hey man great video! What EQ software is that exactly? I have audacity and I'm thinking of using that for the EQ
That's just the EQ in FinalCut Pro, any EQ should work, Audacity would be fine.
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Love your video.. Just a silly question. When I filming with Zoom f1 and zoom gun to my Sony A7lll. Can I record to F1 sd card at the same time?? Thanks. G.lam
Thanks. Yes, you can record to the F1 SD card and the camera at the same time.
Hello. Thanks for the insights on this product, i was looking forward to buy it but there aren't many serious videos about it.
A minor tip, "low cut", which is probably what ZOOM intended to communicate in this product IS NOT the same as "Low Pass filter". For the contrary, a LPF (low pass filter), as you are calling it in the video, LET PASS lower frequencies, effectively cutting everything above the cut frequency.
"Low cut" was probably used so people more easily understand what the effect is, but (if it's not a low shelf filter) what this product has is a High pass filter. Cheers
Thank you for this! I am new to vlogging and wanting to improve my audio and bought the F1-SP. The challenge I am having is the low volume coming off the SD card directly off of the mic.
My use case may be unusual or uncommon in that I want to get nature sounds (birds, wildlife, streams, etc.) and again, the volume is so low on the SD card of the mic I can't use it. Conversely, the 'noise' of the camera is bit much, but at least usable after filtering a few things in post. My thought is the mic wouldn't have the noise and I could simply sync up the tracks by using the 'tone' signal, but alas even when cranking up the volume of the audio track from the mic in post it still isn't of use.
If anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd appreciate it. I've messed with the gain, but that doesn't seem to help the volume. I am thinking there must be a simple setting I am getting wrong, but then again there aren't too many buttons to mess with.
I'm thinking of adding this to my Sony AX53. The problem I'm having is that the AX53 has a automatic audio limiter that can't be turned off. The audio goes all over the place because of this. Especially when recording loud live music. The audio recording will go real low or almost cutout. Will this help with stabilizing the audio?
This will record its own copy of the audio, as well as in camera if you connect the cable, so yes it will help. Will work best if you use the separate audio file and sync in editing.
Great review and I am currently purchasing this setup. Is there a way to mount this setup on a boom pole? If so, do you know how?
The shock mount has a thread on the bottom, so should be pretty easy.
@@markwiemels yeah I ordered a part, I think i should be good to go. Thank you!
I have a Nikon D3500, which has no external mic port, would this be a good combo to have? Also, how would I sync it to my PC for post production?
Yes, would be perfect for that. Just need to make sure you have an editor that will sync audio, most of the good ones do.
What is your Rec format? I'd prefer to make it in mp3, but i am not sure which one should i use..
Eliza Köles, I used the wav format 48khz/24 bit. Wav is generally better than mp3, with both formats the bigger numbers are the higher quality formats, smaller numbers are lower quality but smaller file size.
Hi, is the Zoom F1 Field Recorder Shotgun Package F1-SP compatible with Nikon D3200? Thanks.
Yes it is.
Hi - I have just received my F1 with the SGH Shotgun mic. I was eagerly waiting to try it out with a similar distance to your demonstration video. Prior to doing that I plugged in a set of headphones and walked around the house. I couldn't believe how bad the noise floor was when lifting the volume on the SGH-1 above 5. The noise is not a "Hiss" more like a distant ocean. As yet I haven't worked out if the noise is generated from the SGH-1 pre or the the headphone pre? I did a couple of test recordings and it is recording the noise. As yet I haven't downloaded it to FCPX to check the waveform. Any ideas??? Peter.
There are a few reports online of the SGH mic having a lot of self noise.When I live listen with headphones I get the same ocean sound/hiss. When I bring it into finalcut that sound is gone, but it if I run the audio through the compressor and use a lot of gain there is hiss/noise. I also have an XLR adapter and when using other mics there is less noise, so I do think it's the SGH mic, not the preamps. For me, if you use the SGH at a the right gain, and don't compress or boost too much in post, the noise floor is good enough. You will have to play with it to find the sweet spot. I would also disable the limiter in the recorder, as this is reported increase the noise floor. I'm also recording in 24bit 96k, even though I'm using in 48khz timeline, this seems to have smoothed out the audio? Which I can't make sense of but I'm sticking with.
Please report back your findings if you think you figure anything out, I have been meaning to make a more long term review and configuration video on this setup. It is what I use for most of my audio in studio.
@@markwiemels Thank you for coming back to me - You are a star. Just to come back to you on one point, I agree that with the inclusion of the limiter, it can lead to an increase in the noise floor. However, when live monitoring through headphones, It made no difference. I will try some recordings in 96k 24 bit and see what happens when I stick a file into FCPX. Ps - using the mic/line in created no additional noise when I connected to my mixer so maybe that's pointing the finger more at the pre in the capsule. I look forward to your long term review. Peter.
@@PeterMossUkulele Yes, I agree with the limiter not adding noise. That was my impression from my tests too, but I have seen people claiming that to zoom limiter decrease the input gain by 10db, then boost it by 10db digitally, which, if this were true, would have to think had some effect. I will so more testing for my next review. I think the Zoom F1-SP is a pretty good setup, even if it's not prefect, I have yet to find something so small and versatile.
@@markwiemels Just a quick update. I went ahead and uploaded some audio files recorded on the F1 along with the SGH-6 capsule into FCPX. The noise - although reduced - was still there. However, I found in the audio inspector a variable noise remover. I found a sweet spot of 40% to remove the noise completely without affecting the quality of the source audio. I just thought I would share that with you. Cheers, Peter.
There seems to be some sort of compression as you increase the gain?
Probably the limiter.
No matter what I do my recordings have a noticeable hiss in the raw Wav files. Is this normal or do I have a defective product? Thanks
The shotgun mic is said to produce more self noise than is desirable, mine does too, it can be more or less noticeable depending on the situation and gain. You can use this video as a comparison as I didn’t do any noise reduction.
I want collect rain sound for Asmr,could you tell me how to set lo cut or limte with my zoom f1?Thank you sir.
Leave it off. You want all the information (sound), then you can choose what you want to do in editing.
i am sorry to be that guy but the low-pass filter is for the subwoofers, the one you are using is low-cut
Thanks, yah I have worked that out, the unit only has a low cut filter so the user could not choose anything else.
@@markwiemels also a very good video i was considering buying one, thanks to you i m just searching for a deal to get it. i would not even imagine it would sound this good. thank you.
@@aydngulgun8936 it’s pretty good. I’m really happy with it, and beyond that, it’s so versatile. I now use it for my on body lapel recording, and have most of the zoom capsules I use.