Is the Zoom F1 recorder really that great in real world?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Filmed on the streets of Tokyo, here is a real world test with 3 F1's running simultaneously with a variety of the Zoom Microphone Capsules as well as the Lavalier Mic. The Capsules tested are the MSH-6 Mid-Side Mic, the XYH-6 Adjustable Stereo Mic & the SSH-6 Stereo Shotgun Mic.
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Zoom F1-LP: www.zoom-na.com/products/fiel...
Zoom F1-SP: www.zoom-na.com/products/fiel...
MSH-6: www.zoom-na.com/products/prod...
XYH-6: www.zoom-na.com/products/prod...
SSH-6: www.zoom-na.com/products/prod...
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Filmed on Canon 5D Mark IV with an Audio Technica AT8024 shotgun mic mounted on top for when I'm talking on in between moments.
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I love comprehensive reviews. Well done Jason.
This is quite honestly one of the best reviews I've ever seen. Excellent quality stuff Jason, it's a shame you don't have more views!
Thank you Ahsan. I'm really sorry I missed this comment when you first did it. I've also just released 3 videos on the Rode Wireless GO systems if you care to check that out. I'm also planning on doing a video combining the Wireless GO together with the Zoom F1. They can be a REALLY powerful team together.
Cheers from Tokyo!!
@@JasonMcNamara Indeed jason you do unique videos compared others, with alot ideas inside , thank for sharing.
@@RenaudDemaret That's awesome. Thank you. I really appreciate it when people compliment me on not being like other channels. I've got more gear videos coming (when I get time) so please Sub and hit the bell if you wish.
@@JasonMcNamara Ahah its already do, and you also help me improve english because i'm a french native speaker.
Good continuing.
@@RenaudDemaret I feel your pain. I'm an Australian living in Japan so believe me, I know too well how hard a 2nd language can be. It's super kind of you to tell me that I've helped you. Thank you.
Can not stress enough how helpful this review is. So thorough. Thanks so much
NICE!! Thank you. Hope you had a chance to check out some of my other demos.
What an impressive review, Jason. Great!!! Rock on, buddy!
Thank you very much.
Well done comparison, thank you for making this video. I appreciate it.
No. 1 review about Zoom F1 and accessories. Thank you.
Nice comparison Jason, so professional!
Very informative and entertaining! :D Thanks so much for uploading this!!!
Hi Awesome review and thank you for testing the capsules also!
Also amazing place to do a review!
An Amazing review! Thanks for the video!
This is the best honest real life scenario experiment. Thank you
The best review on YT for this device. Best wishes on your channel. Cheers from 🇨🇦
Thank you very much @Sarikei Rex. Funny thing is over a year later I still use the F1's as interview recorders and of course when I don't need to be wireless. I appreciate the kind words.
Cheers from Tokyo, Jason 😊
Thank you very much for this review in one of the busiest intersections of the world. Brilliant, mate. One of the best videos on the Zoom F1! Peace and Love
Thank you so much. I need to make an new video with some of the pitfalls I encountered using the F1 at a trade show. It was all user error so hopefully it will help others.
What a wonderfully helpful video!!!
I appreciated this review greatly! Keep it real!
Thank you very much.
This was really helpful review, Jason! Thank you for sharing it! I just got the F1 a few weeks ago and this got me a better picture of its capabilities. Already considering buying at least one other of the additional microphone accessories.
Thank you Michael. I LOVE getting responses like this to my videos. To know all of the hard work putting something like this together is appreciated means the world to me.
Cheers from Tokyo!
I'm astonished that the F1 body isn't picking up all your hand and finger manipulations into the recording. You're holding it with bare hands and it's excellent. Wow.
I know. The older models like the H4n was terrible for that. The F1 is a really cool unit. I'm curious, did you buy one for yourself?
Planning an event right now.
Excellent insight.
Thorough my man.
Thank you.
You're most welcome. I'm really grateful for how much yourself and everyone else has appreciate this video. Thank you too.
Excellent review. Excellent work. Thank you for this!
beavix it’s my pleasure. Thank you for enjoying the video. Please consider Subscribing. There’s a variety of videos on my channel, but there are plenty of Audio videos too.
Never seen a better review! Thanks
That's very appreciated. Thank you.
Great review man!!! Thank you!
Thank you.
Great video! Thanks for the info!
One of the best out there!!!!THX
Nice video. That was really helpful. I was thinking of getting the Røde shotgun, but I just bought the Zoom. This conviced me that I was right in doing so. Tank you.
Awesome demo, thank you! Especially for proving that the F1 has an actual analog limiter that prevents clipping, differently from the useless digital limiter in the H2n.
The variable width is done with the mid/side technique, that is mono-compatible. You can also set the recorder in RAW mode and adjust the width in post-production.
Thank you for the review, it helped me make the decision to purchase a field recorder. Excellent video! - Bill
Thanks Bill. I can't recommend Zoom enough. I've been using their recorders for well over a decade and I own 6 of them. My latest purchase was the F6 which is magnificent because it records in 32bit FLOAT.
Very nice, just discovered the channel. Easy to follow and spot on. Thanks! Rock on
Thank you very much. Is there other gear you'd like to see me do?
Thanks for the great Video .. By far the best review of the Zoom capsules I have seen on youtube. Your tests on these modules answer all my questions .. Thanks so much.
Thank you @Glen Smith for that wonderful compliment. There's more similar videos on my channel. I hope you have a chance to enjoy some more.
@@JasonMcNamara Thank you Jason . I will most def take a look at more of your Videos
@@JasonMcNamara Thank you Jason I will most definitely check out more of your videos
Thank you, this is the best review!
Perfect!! Simply perfect!
Thanks Jason excellent comparison!
Thanks Mook. It's a great unit and very affordable especially for what it does.
Interesting comparison Jason, thanks mate !
My pleasure Todd. I hope you got one (or three like me, haha!!) and gave the F1 a go for yourself.
Brilliant, exactly what I was looking for. Now all I need is these mics being tested on a F4/F8.
HAHAHA!!! Don't want much do ya? I have an F4 and have used them on there as well. However I've never made a video about it. I don't have the time right now either sorry.
This it the best review of the Zoom F1, thanks for sharing,
Thank you for watching and enjoying the video +SideKick202
Great video was recommended this device was it sure but your review sold me!!! How does it do in very windy situations?
Hey @JiDion. Sorry for the super slow reply. The Zoom F1 can do well in wind, but with which ever you use you've got to assist them. Placing the Pin Mic under your clothing will help a lot. If you're refering to the SSH-6 Stereo Shotgun Mic, it's not the best in heavy wind. The only real way to deal with strong winds is to use a pro level Shotgun mic inside of a Zeppelin with what the call a Dead Cat on (the fluffy wind sock) together with something like a Zoom H6, F4 or something with Phantom Power built in. However that set up would also cost over $1000USD. That's the trade off. Hope that all helps.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Great comparison, thank you Sir
Thank you for saying that. This video may not have had the most views, but it's received many wonderful compliments. Thanks for yours too.
Great video!
wow, thank you. very nice test review
Thank you very much. I still blown away that 2 years on and people are still enjoying this video so much. It's appreciated.
Thank you for the demo of all the mic settings, this is really informative. For street/ambient recording, the SSH at 90 degrees sounds about right to me. It's immersive and natural, whereas the wider settings don't sound right. I have the Zoom H6 with the usual capsules, but not either of the shotgun capsules. The SSH at 90 degrees actually sounds better for street ambience than the XY capsules. Very interesting.
I have been so on the edge with getting one of these. I think this tipped me to wanting to get one.
NICE!!! I'm happy I could help.
I was talking to my son about this, he has one and said I should get one too. And that’s what I’ll do. Good presentation! Thank you.
NICE!! I’m happy I could help. I shot this video in January of 2019 and I still use them when I don’t need to use a wireless system. Just be careful to monitor the input gain so it doesn’t peak. Other than that you’ll be all good 👍
Nice side by side of capsules!
Great review, Thank you!
Thank you very much.
Great review. 👍🏻
Excellent review!
Thank you sir 🤩
@@JasonMcNamara Nice to hear Shibuya Crossing again in so many renderings!
Out. Effing. Standing. Review of these capsules. Earned a sub for this extremely useful content.
That's awesome. Thank you so much.
Really interesting video, thanks! Considering this for videography, or an H1N or an H5.... so far the F1-SP is feeling like the right product for me!
Thank you so much!!
I believe the Zoom F1-SP combo comes with SGH-6 (at least I could not find a F1-SSH-6 combo).
F1-SSH6 seems like a nice, practical combination (even though the stereo separation doesn't sound at all impressive or comparable in any way with the other 2 stereo mics you tested here).
Thank you for the nice real world review here! I am waiting for the F1-SP delivery at the moment :) . Maybe I'll add the XYH-6 later.
Great review. I'll get the shotgun F1. Gracias!
Late to the party but thanks so much for this. On a recent trip I had taken my smallest video setup and the sound could have been better. I have the f1, h5 and all the capsuls but to be honest I have never really used them. After your excellent demo I now regret not taking the f1 + the ssh-6 to capture all the sounds that were around me....Lesson learned and thanks. Awesome video.
Awesome! I just bought H8 for my field recording work and some relative scenery. And I'm still hesitated whether there's a need for me to purchase an F1 for some base-on-mount shooting or with a Lav-mic to pick up the target's sound. Now I've finally got some thoughts after watching your fascinating review. Thx a lot and maybe I'll go and get one soon.
Say that the most advantage for me to take is the capsules, which I think they're the most creative module thing in the audio recording field.
great review bro... tq
GOOD information and voice record test.
7web教學分享-艾維斯 thank you 😊
Thanks!
Well done Thank you 🙏🏻
great review
Great Test 👍👍👍👍
Most perfect review of zoom f1till date on UA-cam.Gonna buy one
That's fantastic to know that I helped you make a decision there. Thank you Doctor.
Same here! Thanks, Jason.
Just to follow up and out of my own curiosity, did either of you end up buying an F1?
*Waving back to the girl in the background at **7:02*
Aaaaanyway, best review ever, EXACTLY what I needed. I have all capsules, but I want a tiny recorder to mount on my tiny blackmagic pocket setup. This convinced me I need this. THANKS.
nice job... helps me a lot!
Nice one. You have a cool channel Sound Hole. I love your presentation of sound recording my putting the video and the spectrum right there on the screen. Do you have an F1 or any of those mics yourself?
most time used a zoom h2n
Thank's dude !
My pleasure Florian.
Great Video. Thanks 😊👍🏼
Thank you for enjoying the video.
Best run and gun mic/recorder around
damn, that is the best video on the question !!! thanks a lot !
Thanks @BraZick official. Do you own an F1 or are you planning getting one?
At a time of watching I was planing, by now I already own one LP version for 2 days with XY microphone of choice, since it has the most stereo feel to it and works perfect for what I need it) and planing to get ssh and exh in the future for different projects !) so thanks a lot again )
Well done! I learned more about mics in this one video than all the others combined. Just worried you're gonna get tagged by a car! Subbed!
HAHAHAHA!!!! Thankfully no cars got me. It's a wonderful intersection to do real world audio testing in. Thanks for the Sub good sir.
Thanks
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Interesting video and great work showcasing the different attachments. A question I have is which mic do you think will work best for something similar more binaural audio ??
Maybe test these attachments while walking through streets and having different sounds going past etc
To really do binaural recordings you would need much higher end equipment than this. On a very rudimentary level through, the SSH-6 at 90º or the MSH-6 at 90º or even 120º would be best. The big thing you would need to be careful of is the handling noise of the F1. I've used it for recording Ambience many times, BUT you need to be super careful.
excellent review. no bullshit
This is the best review
Thank you @flipteezy
Well presented! Have you any experience capturing impulse responses? I thought perhaps the ssh - 6 would be a good microphone to do this? I would like to know what a space might sound like with that capsule.
I've never created an IR's in my life so I wouldn't know how that would work. Sorry.
What an excellent review and demonstration! You gave us so much useful information. I'm looking at this as a potential solution for recording a live music performances and for making field recordings. Would you recommend using the shotgun mic or the mid-side capsule for capturing a singer/songwriter 6-8 ft away from the camera? And what about closer up, such as with the unit set up directly in front of the performer?
Firstly, thank you. I really appreciate all of these wonderful comments from you and everyone here.
The shotgun mic is great is normal level situations, however its not good in really noisy environments. Even if you turn the gain down, it still can’t handle any excessive volumes coming into it. That that I would go the mid side or even possibly the XY mic and its personal taste as to which you prefer the most. For me its the Mid Side.
And for close up, the shotgun is good so long (once again) as the signal its trying to record is say a voice and acoustic guitar. Its no good with Drums. Hope all that helps.
@@JasonMcNamara Oh, that's too bad about the SPL. I've also read criticism about the battery door and the battery life. Feeling hesitant. I agree with your preference for the MS mic, just based on the video you presented I thought it sounded more natural.
Great review and comparison, big thanks!
You said you own the bigger devices of the H series, what do you think: does the xy or the ms capsule significantly better when attached to the H5 or H6 vs. the F1?
Yes sir and thank you. I have a really old H4n, an F4, a H6, an F6, 3x F1's and the LiveTrak L-8. I found the F4 is really noisy with the XY capsule. Plus the handling noise off the F4 is terrible. The H6 is a little noisy as well. It's nothing that can't be fixed by using the Voice De-Noise module/plugin on iZotope RX8. That's what I use to clean out all and any background noise.
And so you know as a working Sound Recordist, I LOVE the F6. That 32-bit FLOAT recording is outstanding.
the only vide on youtube , 10x !!
hi Jason, would you mind to provide the F1 settings at 3.50 - 4.30min marks for the shotgun version? This is one of the best outdoor review for the F1 microphone. thanks
I don't actually recall, however I can tell you that I set the input level from the dial that's on the Microphone and it was too hot. I should have had it about 3dB to 4dB lower.
Thanks, super informative! I'm considering buying this recorder. One thing I can't find a definitive answer yer whether it's possible to record 2 sources simultaneously: one of the capsules and lavalier mic in the line in.
Nope. One or the other.
It's not possible to record a Capsule Mic and the Pin Mic simultaneously. The ONLY way you could record two sources at the same time would be to purchase the EHX-6 capsule. It has 2 VLX/Jack composite inputs.
Thanks for the excellent demo, very useful and informative. In another review, it was recommended to wear the unit on a belt upside-down to both avoid the problem with the wire output placement, and also if you are the wearer, you see the display correctly when you tip it up toward yourself. I ordered one of these but haven't received it yet, so I don't speak from experience.
OT: Your intro scared the shit out of me and felt like it almost ripped a hole in my eardrum, thanks for making up for it with a great video lol.
HAHAHA!!! Yeah sorry about that. At least it got your attention. I've actually change it as of today where I've put in some cool music instead. Yes that tip will work with the cable, but the display will be upside down then too. Still it's not a big problem. Because you enjoyed this video on the F1, you may like to see three videos I just published simultaneously on the Rode Wireless GO which I've also used with the F1 and it's great. I will make a video focusing on using them together sometime. I have a really neat trick that most people may not have thought of. Thanks again for watching Vinny.Cheers from Tokyo!
If the display is upside down on the belt, and the wearer lifts the bottom up to look, then it’s the right way. Not sure that was intentional though. I may grab a right angle adapter if I can find one with screws, we shall see when I receive it tomorrow!
I am interested in your tricks, and when budget allows, I certainly wouldn’t mind going wireless. I worry about interference ever since my camera picked up a beep I was unaware of and cause me me a lot of post-processing heartache to save an important interview. So now I’m looking to use the F1 for redundancy and also plan to get another with the shotgun to replace a Rode VMP that appears to be the RF amplifying culprit when paired with my X-T3. But it would be cool to record to the F1 and then pass the signal wirelessly back to camera or my H5. Anyway I’m getting into the weeds here, haha. My point is yes I am interested and will check out your other videos, and thank you for sharing!
@@VinnyLePes same goes for me too. A LOT of what I have learnt over the many years of doing this has come from my own mistakes. They have taught me so much and have also sharpened my awareness of what could be potential problems before they've even happened. I'm actually planning on doing a video sometimes with a stack of audio gear that I own to teach others ways of either combining what they already own or to help them be aware of what they are buying to make sure they don't blow their money on something that won't suit their needs. Not sure when I'll do it, but I hope to do it soon.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Jason McNamara sounds cool 😎. I see what you were saying now that I received it, the screen is already upside down the way you’d want it when the ports face up. Not sure what the other review was talking about haha.
@@VinnyLePes makes me happy because it proves that I know my shit!! HAHAHAHA!!!! I really hope you enjoy using it. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up on Facebook. You can find a link to me in the description of this video.
can u pliz tell how the ssh 6 mic compare with zoom video mic pro vmp ? i am on tight budget n for me it is either this or the zoom video mic . which one wil a better option as a shot gun mic
I'm really sorry for such a late reply. Did you end up buying something since having see this video 7 months ago?
Dear Jason, Thanks to you I got my Zoom F1. Question: What is the best setting to use the mic outdoor and reduce noises? Gracias, Nancy.
Hi Nancy. Sorry for such a late reply. To reduce the noise outdoors... 1: Monitor the recording with a really GOOD pair of headphones. My recommendation is to use the same headphones you listen to your music with. That way you are comfortable with the sound. If you only have Airpods, then get some nice headphones like my Audio Technica ATH990BT and get yourself aquatinted with the sound of the headphones you use.
2: Buy (more money, sorry) and learn to use iZotope RX9 to clean up the audio in Post Production. Personally I have RX9 Advanced, but I also clean Audio professionally.
Hope that helps.
Thanks a lot Jason! Stay safe!
XY its mostly for environment soundscapes.
if I connect this to a DSLR through headphone out put, when I press record on the F1 it sends a beep to the camera to make synch in post easier right?
I've never tried that and it's a good question, but yes, I would say that it would work. My trick that I use every time including on this video is to clap twice. I do it like this, "Audio marker 1" (clap)... "Audio marker 2" (clap). That works for me. Then I have a very obvious marker on all of my cameras as audio recorders that I can see on the WAV of all of my sources in the editor.
I would like to purchase the F1 SP. So I wonder can I plug any lava mic on it? is it works with other brand's microphone? Thank you so much!
Yes it will, just so long as the mic has a 3.5mm (also known as an 1/8" in the USA) jack on it.
I'm very appreciated for your (very) quick help 👍👍
Do you recommend using the limiter (on)? (always keeping it on)? Or only in certain situations?
The only time I personally put it on is if I'm in an environment where the sound is liable to have sudden loud noises such as a factory or something like that.
How come the stereo capsule sounds so much softer than the other two? Were the gains the same across the board? Is that because the stereo is meant more as a near field rather than far field mic?
I shot this video 3 years ago now so I can't remember specifically, however there the levels are set on each mic so I may have had them set differently to each other. However yes, the difference in concentration vs separation between Mono & Stereo may have made a difference too. Well spotted.
I just got the version with the shotgun mic and I have a few questions. How are you changing the degrees in the audio In the mic settings? Mine is stuck in “GUN” under REC LEVEL. Is the limiter automatically an analog limiter or do you have to go in settings to change the setting to analog instead of digital? Thanks in advance.
You may have the Mono SGH-6 (the more Silver one) which is only Mono. The SSH-6 (more of a darker Grey) which is the Stereo can do it no problem.
@@JasonMcNamara Oh crap yeah, I have the silver one. I see the issue now. Thanks for clarifying.
My F1 came with the SGH6 not the one you used in this test. You should have done the test with the SGH6 since that is the one that comes with the F1. I think the one you used comes with the H6. The SGH6 is non adjustable, except for the round gain knob on top of the mic. You can’t adjust the angle.
hi jason may i know what is different between ssh6 and sgh 6 shortgun mic
and how to set to 0 degree or 120 degree, i impress in this setting
i using zoom h1n now feeling upgrade to this
Yes I was using the SSH-6 in this video. The difference is really simple. SSH-6 is Stereo and the SGH-6 is Mono. Changing the Degree amount is done with one of the buttons on the F1 unit itself. Hope that helps to answer your questions.
Cheers!
@@JasonMcNamara thx bro , i understand ad. honestly this is the best and detail review ever !!!
I love how this is almost like totally out of place like he's on a green screen and people are just walking by like he doesn't exist. Excellent review for a product I want but can't get it. I didn't even know that there was angle settings on the other Mic's. There's a few people who walk by and look over at the right moment like the guy on the cell phone as he's talking about cell phones interfering. Interested to see what other videos I will get by subscribing.
That's because I was shooting it on a really nice camera which with a killer auto focus and a nice depth of field. Plus it's not very often that many gear demos are shot purely outdoors where the gear is quite possibly going to be used. I'm happy to know you enjoyed the video. Thanks 👍😉
Друг ты лучший, спасибо
The shotgun mic was the best
Is in any good with wind noise??
Like any mic, you have to use the windshield which there is one included. Generally I would say yes it is, but I'd also recommend if it's windy out to also use the built-in Low Cut and adjust the frequency to your liking. PRO TIP: If it's super windy and you need to check the sound, make sure you're wearing headphones to check the sound AND also wear a hoodie or something over top of the headphones to block the wind from around your headphones. I've done that many times and it helps more than I have words to tell you.
Great comparison and review ... I am not in the zoom environment, so I don't think the F1 appeals to me much. If someone has another zoom recorder and uses the "plug-in" accessories, I think it would probably be a good decision to pick up an F1.
I recently got a Zoom F6 and that thing is outstanding for recording. I'll try to get time to make a video on that. See how I go. And on the F1, if you need a stand alone Lav Mic recorder it's fantastic for that purpose. Think of the Capsule Mic possibility as an added bonus on top. You can always use the EXH-6 (capsule with 2x XLR inputs) on there for some majorly flexible possibilities.
I have Zoom F1
Anybody can help me which capsule should i buy for Podcast and interview recordings
I would say the Mono Shotgun capsule, however from experience it's important to make sure you listen to the levels before recording at the very least. However the best bet is to monitor the entire time with your headphones on so you know if the level needs to be brought down a bit or not.
4:14 That is a cold shoe, does not pass any signal between the mic and whatever device you put it on :)
hai, how how do you make it wireless ?
It's not made to be wireless. Of course you could attach a wireless system such as the RØDE Wireless Go to it, but that would defeat the purpose.
Guys, a have a F1. When I press the battery slot, the unit simple power off. That happens with you too?
André Rodrigues - ART Films : I must admit the battery compartment is the Achilles Heal of the F1. Mind you, the way it’s designed I personally have only had minimal issues with it. With all of my gear on a shoot, I try my best to reserve a certain amount of my brain energy for being that extra bit more careful with my gear. I can tell you, it saves a lot of money in the long run from not breaking anything. I usually damage myself before gear 🤣
@@JasonMcNamara Thats the true! Today, I simply unscrewed the protection, and reassembled again. Voi là! Works fine, the reason I dont know!?! But, stay in the records.
That was very comprehensive. The only thing you could have added would have been music.
Thanks Krane. I did think about it, but in the editing I found that it took away from the mission at hand which was to simply show off the recorders.
Go-Karts at 11:56 - 12:05
Shotgun the best
It really is. The only issue is that you need to hold the unit to use it for interviews, but I did a stack of interviews with it at the NAMM show in Anaheim back in late Jan and the only problems I faced were my own mistakes. The F1 was great to use out in the field.