By the way, if you thought the Yurgir thing was interesting, you might be interested to know that the infamous Spider Matriarch was originally born a high elf imprisoned by drow and was VERY dedicated to Lolth
It's explained in her notebooks in the room where you get the spider-step boots. I was disappointed that there was no further comments from other party members *cough* Gale *cough* when you take a closer look at the diagram and stuff.
I found out about the "atrophied" condition by accident during the Steel Watcher Titan fight. It instantly died at the start of my turn and I couldn't understand why, so I had to Google it and discovered a lot of people won that fight in the same way and also got surprised. Just be aware that the boss is bugged and doesn't drop any items if you kill it this way, so you won't get its legendary bow.
Because rerolling your characters to get 100% success rate on a scenario and then rerolling back to your preferred classes is the BEST way to enjoy the game, and will make your play through so much BETTER. Video should have been title how to cheese BG3 like a pro min/maxer.
While using the trader trick on PC, it actually duplicated the gold that I would have used to purchase the items. I "bought" every scroll from Sorcerous Sundries without losing any gold, while both vendors gained tens of thousands of gold in their inventory. I was able to save scum the pickpocketing rolls and made off with the scrolls and an additional 50.000 or so gold.
For the trader trick, carry capacity, if you are encumbered that's what ive noticed stops ya. The other one is you can still steal the merchants gold by selling them a bag, going to barter and putting the gold in said bag, but in the case of stealing gold, ive found you must have at least the same amount to steal it. Also it does something wierd to the vendor and drastically increases the money they are carrying, if you steal enough money and donate it back to the merchant, you can find your self stealing 99k per round of doing this.
If you initiate dialogue with a separated party member and stay on the dialogue options before the actual trade menu you can then switch to another character and cast hold person on the trader. Then have whoever in your party has the best Sleight of hand to simply pickpocket the trader. Even if you fail it just boots you out of the pickpocket menu and you can just crouch and try again. It also helps to literally spam the triangle button(PS5) until you succeed that roll or fail and get booted again. When you have taken all you want simply teleport back to camp with all the members that are not in conversation. Switch back to your companion that is in dialog and just select leave and teleport to camp. The trader will stay held even after you exit dialog and since the trader was in dialogue when you cast Hold Person you have as much time as you want while stealing because the turns never pass while he’s stuck in conversation. Once you are back in camp just end the concentration of whoever cast Hold person and you are done. This will not lose you any standing with the trader and you can do this as much as you want granted the target trader must not be in someone’s vision cone. I did this on Honour mode with Arron from the grove. The one trader chick in the mountain pass that’s alone on the way to the Creche. It also works with Lann Tarv and Roa Moonglow in moonrise tower after you have killed all the enemies in the immediate vicinity. These are some of the best merchants early and mid game as they have quite a lot of unique items in their inventories. Just make sure that after you end concentrating you don’t just exit camp back to the same spot as I’m pretty sure the trader is pissed. Just fast travel to the nearest Sigil and walk back to the trader. Works as of 3/15/24 even on Honour mode! You can also do this to both the traders at the Storm Shore Armory(Deadshot Bow trader) in act 3 and the blacksmith trader downstairs in Rivington and Dammon in act 3 so good loot! I’m sure you can do this to more traders just be careful and make sure the target is not in anyone’s vision cone. This actually made my duo Honour run way easier even with just me and Shadow. Hope this makes sense and helps someone on their journey for the Golden Die!
another note regarding the trader trick: if you don't have enough gold to cover an item (i.e. you have 200g and an item would cost you 300g) it will fail to transfer the item regardless of where it is in the stack, but since you can sell the vendor back any items you did manage to pull across, you'll quickly be able to get enough gold to cover everything in their stock while still only paying for the last item in the stack... like a 2g bone ;)
If you're a bard, you get a chance to recall its entire history with a story. I'm pretty sure the roll has advantage, but when you succeed the check he also gives you the infernal iron for 1 skill check instead of 3.
On console I used a similar money exploit with the Druid. Wild shape and attempt to use a throwable like an alchemist bottle, it will just close your radial. Then revert to normal and now you can sell that item repeatedly. Good thing is in act 1 there’s lots of alchemist bottles so I got a 20 stack and it affects the entire stack so I could quickly tap A to sell half for 50g each and would just buy everything they had I wanted and “sell” the alchemist bottles repeatedly with them staying in my inventory until I had all the gold from the vendor as well.
Another trader trick I was using in my playthrough on PC, don't know if it's been patched though. Using a class that can "bind weapon" (Eldritch Knight or Blade Warlock) you can bind a weapon, like your most expensive one, go into the trading menu, equip another weapon to your warlock or fighter in that menu, and then sell the bound weapon to the trader. Since it's bound, it'll return to your inventory, and you get to keep the gold. Like I said, not sure if it still works but worth checking out if you have Wyll as a Blade Warlock and have the chance.
With PC, you can split gold piles up into smaller amounts and transfer them back into the shop's inventory making stealing their gold much easier. Typically I make the piles into being anywhere from 2-5 difficulty which right now is about 200gp
On console get a bag fill it up with gold add the bag to the barter screen and then buy whatever you want from the trader confirm the trade then to into the bag on the traders stock hold multi select press options and send the gold to another party member this also works with items
A quick note about the “console specific” infinite gold trick. Its actually just a controller specific infinite gold trick. If you plug in a controller then make sure the game registers it as the way you control the game, very easy to tell as entire UI changes, you can do the selling equipment trick on PC
Step 1: talk to trader Step 2: cast hold person on trader from character outside conversation Step 3: pickpocket indefinitely, because hold person will not tick down on number of rounds while conversing with your other character Step 4: profit
Step 4, the moment you leave conversing the whole town is temporarily hostile and you lose 15 attitude from everyone nearby if you try to flee. This hold person *trick* is a trap
This is why I target only traders that are isolated. Lady Esther in the Trielta crags, Arab Oblodra in moonrise, and Exxvikyap, the dragonborn in act 3. If you leave and long rest before they break the spell, there's no consequence.
I know something I've never seen anybody talk about... consuming the noblestalk mushroom restores your health completely for just the cost of one action. You can stock up on these in act three by buying them from the same lady from the underdark in act two inside her shop near Sorcerer's Sundries. Also, whenever a companion levels up, her inventory restocks. Very useful for the final fight.
Also as a heads up Derryth ONLY sells noblestalks if you gave her the one from the underdark in act 1, if you don’t she never offers noblestalks in act 3
About the mirror of loss: 1. can you only get 1 ability point per character? 2. Get a +2 on an ability? Or 3. Get 7 different ability points on one character? I’m sorry, I just can’t figure out all of what you can get out of the mirror and how to get. 🥺
I found apples that do the same thing, heal you without cost, somehow it seems different from regular apples and there is also the soup from antie ethel in act 1
The Flawed Helldusk is a little buggy too. I was able to get the dialogue all three times without having three pieces of alloy. It was never taken out of my inventory. You can skip one of the checks with the mirror if you find Shadowhearts childhood hiding spot and read a note.
The console trick does work on PC but you need to use a controller. Something about the menus vary by input device. I know because I tested 2 days ago. So if you have a PC compatible controller, you can steal all the gold from any trader.
#1: until this very moment I was under the impression that getting the flawed helldusk set without using all my infernal iron was a bug. Actually I never noticed that it had a different name, either...
I remember I learned about the atrophied condition in the elder brain fight, (spoilers ahead) I had mind flayer orpheus use the intellect drain on the red dragon so he would get health back while he was channeling the portal to make sure he didn't die and I randomly got the steam achievement for killing the red dragon and found it dead to atrophy
Imo it’s not really needed to respec your character to get proficiency and expertise at religion. Sure it’s a foolproof way as described in this video but with headband of intellect, guidance, bardic inspiration (up to 1d10), and enhance ability (for intelligence ability check advantage) imo you’ll have enough. You can also wear shapeshifter boon ring and disguise self for another 1d4 ability check. I had done respec character in the past and it’s a nuisance to reclass back all your characters 2nd time. With above setup plus 4 inspiration points I’d think you’ll get that +2 pts to all your character in no time
all this mess with the mirror of loss can be done just by save scumming (ofc this won't do in HM). if you're abusing it, at least save your own time from this mess with respec into rogue and hirelings. :D there's also a lot more dwarven meat in the goblin camp, with about.. 16~ pieces scattered on tables nearby.
@@jamminkeysI promise you there is, but it’s SO tedious. I spent a good couple hours trying to do it on the mirror of loss to get 24 charisma, I was in paaaain
I'm not sure how you would be able to get an NPC to 0 in a particular stat without just killing them. You'd need to hit most enemies 10+ times in order to get a stat to 1 by which time they would already be dead.
The very last thing he said on the video was true ..if u shape shift with a Druid character u can sale his armor but it will never be sold u just get the gold for it and keep ur stuff..u can find videos here on UA-cam
I got a piece of this infernal stuff in the little ruins in act one as well, back where you can find shadowheart if you didnt rescue her the room its in has a bunch of traps so send someone like asterion in to disarm them all
I seem to keep seeing other creators make stuff with this information, only for you to post it a few hours later. If you're getting your content information from other sources, can you PLEASE just be a good guy and credit them? It's like 3 times now I've seen another creator post about something, only for you to post about it right after without credit. Might be coincidence though, but you, as a BG3 creator, must be aware.
Hey Andy, there's no way for me to turn a video around in a few hours. This video took me over a week to make so I assure you I did not find someone's stuff and just turn it around a few hours later.
Not gona lie the mirror one is such a waste as when you have to specify your character just for some point later on when all you need is rereloading. Just a wasted character creation when you can just make the character you want and do it for free. Lol
Can't say I haven't been enjoying the content or not finding it useful, but please start off with at least a short introduction to the video, when the video plays and immediately I hear first "FIRSToff!" It just feels weird and it's not uncommon on their butt on UA-cam it just doesn't feel right
I kinda hate these videos. I can't claim I've never save scummed in a game, but these videos that focus on getting absolutely every possible thing that makes you obnoxious are always something I never understand. I'm a player that makes choices then largely sticks to those choices, even if it costs me something that could be helpful, because that the point of a choice. Everybody can play the game they bought with their money how they want, it just odd to me that so many focus on power fantasy nonsense.
Once again we see that this game is nothing more than a collection of tricks, bugs and exploits. How about just a good game that simply employs tactics?
regarding the mirror of loss. if you go to shadowhearts hideout in the area first and read a note there, you can skip the 20 religion check
My thoughts exactly
YOU WHAT
Wtf really?
@@normy6801 there is a destructable wall in the armory. the room is behind it.
Only the 20 though, not the 25 per character
"doesn't cost a action or bonus action"
Enemies watching in horror as Durge devours a complete Dwarf's cooked and cut parts in the span of 6 seconds.
Not only that, but the Durge would still be doing their full action, bonus action, and movement *while* eating the dwarf
@@philipliao4006
Advantage on Intimidation and automatically afflict every enemy with fear.
eating dwarf meat is just something so natural that Durge can do it as if he were just breathing
By the way, if you thought the Yurgir thing was interesting, you might be interested to know that the infamous Spider Matriarch was originally born a high elf imprisoned by drow and was VERY dedicated to Lolth
It's explained in her notebooks in the room where you get the spider-step boots. I was disappointed that there was no further comments from other party members *cough* Gale *cough* when you take a closer look at the diagram and stuff.
Thank you! I was so curious about the diaries but didn't think it was the Matriarch
Didnt even realize infernal alloy and iron were 2 different things
I found out about the "atrophied" condition by accident during the Steel Watcher Titan fight. It instantly died at the start of my turn and I couldn't understand why, so I had to Google it and discovered a lot of people won that fight in the same way and also got surprised. Just be aware that the boss is bugged and doesn't drop any items if you kill it this way, so you won't get its legendary bow.
Wow! Didn't know you'd lose the loot, that's a bummer!
If you bring the gold masks found in the Underdark to Dammon he can make special grenades from them
Regarding the last tip: Dont drag the items into your bag but on top of the icon of the pouch/bag instead. It wont charge u a dime and ur good to go
Because rerolling your characters to get 100% success rate on a scenario and then rerolling back to your preferred classes is the BEST way to enjoy the game, and will make your play through so much BETTER. Video should have been title how to cheese BG3 like a pro min/maxer.
5:41 I thought my tav could eat them because he was dragonborn. Knowing it is because of the dark urge makes it even grimmer 😮
Grimmer still if your dark urge is a dwarf themselves.
It can't be Tav and Dark Urge, those are two different characters.
While using the trader trick on PC, it actually duplicated the gold that I would have used to purchase the items. I "bought" every scroll from Sorcerous Sundries without losing any gold, while both vendors gained tens of thousands of gold in their inventory. I was able to save scum the pickpocketing rolls and made off with the scrolls and an additional 50.000 or so gold.
For the trader trick, carry capacity, if you are encumbered that's what ive noticed stops ya.
The other one is you can still steal the merchants gold by selling them a bag, going to barter and putting the gold in said bag, but in the case of stealing gold, ive found you must have at least the same amount to steal it. Also it does something wierd to the vendor and drastically increases the money they are carrying, if you steal enough money and donate it back to the merchant, you can find your self stealing 99k per round of doing this.
Can you explain it step, by step?
You can also do the Shapeshifter's Boon Ring with Mask of the Shapeshifter if you don't want to use bardic inspiration.
If you initiate dialogue with a separated party member and stay on the dialogue options before the actual trade menu you can then switch to another character and cast hold person on the trader. Then have whoever in your party has the best Sleight of hand to simply pickpocket the trader. Even if you fail it just boots you out of the pickpocket menu and you can just crouch and try again. It also helps to literally spam the triangle button(PS5) until you succeed that roll or fail and get booted again. When you have taken all you want simply teleport back to camp with all the members that are not in conversation. Switch back to your companion that is in dialog and just select leave and teleport to camp. The trader will stay held even after you exit dialog and since the trader was in dialogue when you cast Hold Person you have as much time as you want while stealing because the turns never pass while he’s stuck in conversation. Once you are back in camp just end the concentration of whoever cast Hold person and you are done. This will not lose you any standing with the trader and you can do this as much as you want granted the target trader must not be in someone’s vision cone. I did this on Honour mode with Arron from the grove. The one trader chick in the mountain pass that’s alone on the way to the Creche. It also works with Lann Tarv and Roa Moonglow in moonrise tower after you have killed all the enemies in the immediate vicinity. These are some of the best merchants early and mid game as they have quite a lot of unique items in their inventories. Just make sure that after you end concentrating you don’t just exit camp back to the same spot as I’m pretty sure the trader is pissed. Just fast travel to the nearest Sigil and walk back to the trader. Works as of 3/15/24 even on Honour mode! You can also do this to both the traders at the Storm Shore Armory(Deadshot Bow trader) in act 3 and the blacksmith trader downstairs in Rivington and Dammon in act 3 so good loot! I’m sure you can do this to more traders just be careful and make sure the target is not in anyone’s vision cone. This actually made my duo Honour run way easier even with just me and Shadow. Hope this makes sense and helps someone on their journey for the Golden Die!
For the trader trick, it didn't work for me while I was using a backpack. The exploit works fine with a normal pouch.
another note regarding the trader trick: if you don't have enough gold to cover an item (i.e. you have 200g and an item would cost you 300g) it will fail to transfer the item regardless of where it is in the stack, but since you can sell the vendor back any items you did manage to pull across, you'll quickly be able to get enough gold to cover everything in their stock while still only paying for the last item in the stack... like a 2g bone ;)
If you're a bard, you get a chance to recall its entire history with a story. I'm pretty sure the roll has advantage, but when you succeed the check he also gives you the infernal iron for 1 skill check instead of 3.
The history of grimmforge to get the infernal alloy, I mean.
On console I used a similar money exploit with the Druid. Wild shape and attempt to use a throwable like an alchemist bottle, it will just close your radial. Then revert to normal and now you can sell that item repeatedly. Good thing is in act 1 there’s lots of alchemist bottles so I got a 20 stack and it affects the entire stack so I could quickly tap A to sell half for 50g each and would just buy everything they had I wanted and “sell” the alchemist bottles repeatedly with them staying in my inventory until I had all the gold from the vendor as well.
Another trader trick I was using in my playthrough on PC, don't know if it's been patched though.
Using a class that can "bind weapon" (Eldritch Knight or Blade Warlock) you can bind a weapon, like your most expensive one, go into the trading menu, equip another weapon to your warlock or fighter in that menu, and then sell the bound weapon to the trader. Since it's bound, it'll return to your inventory, and you get to keep the gold.
Like I said, not sure if it still works but worth checking out if you have Wyll as a Blade Warlock and have the chance.
With PC, you can split gold piles up into smaller amounts and transfer them back into the shop's inventory making stealing their gold much easier. Typically I make the piles into being anywhere from 2-5 difficulty which right now is about 200gp
On console get a bag fill it up with gold add the bag to the barter screen and then buy whatever you want from the trader confirm the trade then to into the bag on the traders stock hold multi select press options and send the gold to another party member this also works with items
How do you do this on console I'm on ps5
A quick note about the “console specific” infinite gold trick. Its actually just a controller specific infinite gold trick. If you plug in a controller then make sure the game registers it as the way you control the game, very easy to tell as entire UI changes, you can do the selling equipment trick on PC
Step 1: talk to trader
Step 2: cast hold person on trader from character outside conversation
Step 3: pickpocket indefinitely, because hold person will not tick down on number of rounds while conversing with your other character
Step 4: profit
Step 4, the moment you leave conversing the whole town is temporarily hostile and you lose 15 attitude from everyone nearby if you try to flee. This hold person *trick* is a trap
@@LoveReacts This is why Feign Death is better.
This is why I target only traders that are isolated. Lady Esther in the Trielta crags, Arab Oblodra in moonrise, and Exxvikyap, the dragonborn in act 3. If you leave and long rest before they break the spell, there's no consequence.
That last part is especially cool to know! Thanks :) @@NathanT_Performer
Are y'all using PC or PS5?
I know something I've never seen anybody talk about... consuming the noblestalk mushroom restores your health completely for just the cost of one action. You can stock up on these in act three by buying them from the same lady from the underdark in act two inside her shop near Sorcerer's Sundries. Also, whenever a companion levels up, her inventory restocks. Very useful for the final fight.
Also as a heads up Derryth ONLY sells noblestalks if you gave her the one from the underdark in act 1, if you don’t she never offers noblestalks in act 3
Only the belly gives Inspiration on the Dark Urge.
Select the Lucky feat when respeccing for the Mirror of Loss - it gives you Advantage on the ability check rolls.
Did you find a way to kill Withers and casually talk about it in some 8 tips video?
amazing vid!
thank you for making these
Actually good secrets! 🤝🏽
I've come across the mirror of loss a bunch of times but it never let me do anything with it, I might have to look into that more
seeing Shadowheart transform into a wolf was pretty funny
The Zhentarum tadpole barrel at moonrise docks acts like a big caustic bulb. Should work the same.
About the mirror of loss:
1. can you only get 1 ability point per character?
2. Get a +2 on an ability?
Or
3. Get 7 different ability points on one character?
I’m sorry, I just can’t figure out all of what you can get out of the mirror and how to get. 🥺
I saved my encounter with Naoise Nallinto at Sharess' Carress and the Rapture buff until I was ready to use the mirror of loss.
I found apples that do the same thing, heal you without cost, somehow it seems different from regular apples and there is also the soup from antie ethel in act 1
The Flawed Helldusk is a little buggy too. I was able to get the dialogue all three times without having three pieces of alloy. It was never taken out of my inventory.
You can skip one of the checks with the mirror if you find Shadowhearts childhood hiding spot and read a note.
instead of rsave scumming, let's respec or have a hireling cleric and somehow slot a bard into the party as well. shortcut!
The console trick does work on PC but you need to use a controller. Something about the menus vary by input device. I know because I tested 2 days ago. So if you have a PC compatible controller, you can steal all the gold from any trader.
#1: until this very moment I was under the impression that getting the flawed helldusk set without using all my infernal iron was a bug.
Actually I never noticed that it had a different name, either...
Will Dammon make it if you bring the alloy to him in the Grove or is it only last light in?
Idk if something changed in a patch but I answered all of them correctly and still had to buy it off him
I remember I learned about the atrophied condition in the elder brain fight, (spoilers ahead) I had mind flayer orpheus use the intellect drain on the red dragon so he would get health back while he was channeling the portal to make sure he didn't die and I randomly got the steam achievement for killing the red dragon and found it dead to atrophy
The "bomb" exploit was very confusing for me. If I have lightening charges and I throw a bomb, the extra damage happens automatically?
Yeah!
Seems like there is a cat and mouse game going on between you and Larian, where you have ideas for how to trick the game and then Larian patches them.
The infernal irons are useless in act 3 it looks like. I don't see the dialog option with Dammon
Yep, gotta ask him in act 2. And the Merregon masks might even be act 1
I had actually found out about the Mason on my second playthrough.
Wait you can get the +2 points to any ability AND the +1 to the charisma at the Mirror of Loss on one character?
Imo it’s not really needed to respec your character to get proficiency and expertise at religion. Sure it’s a foolproof way as described in this video but with headband of intellect, guidance, bardic inspiration (up to 1d10), and enhance ability (for intelligence ability check advantage) imo you’ll have enough. You can also wear shapeshifter boon ring and disguise self for another 1d4 ability check. I had done respec character in the past and it’s a nuisance to reclass back all your characters 2nd time.
With above setup plus 4 inspiration points I’d think you’ll get that +2 pts to all your character in no time
Can also add pact weapon to wares with multi select and then just keep selling wares
all this mess with the mirror of loss can be done just by save scumming (ofc this won't do in HM). if you're abusing it, at least save your own time from this mess with respec into rogue and hirelings. :D
there's also a lot more dwarven meat in the goblin camp, with about.. 16~ pieces scattered on tables nearby.
You can also respec into a lore bard for skill expertise and then cast enhance ability on yourself. Add in guidance and you're set
you can't save scum in honor mode though, very nice there are ways to still guarantee success there
@@jamminkeys ik? I specified that's not gonna work in HM in my comment.
ok then, thanks for the valuable comment xD@@RozensteinOfficial
@@jamminkeysI promise you there is, but it’s SO tedious. I spent a good couple hours trying to do it on the mirror of loss to get 24 charisma, I was in paaaain
Does the trader trick work for consoles? i cant see a way to do it
I'm not sure how you would be able to get an NPC to 0 in a particular stat without just killing them. You'd need to hit most enemies 10+ times in order to get a stat to 1 by which time they would already be dead.
It seems like the vendor thing's fixed now :(
does the trader trick work on consoles or is it only PC?
The very last thing he said on the video was true ..if u shape shift with a Druid character u can sale his armor but it will never be sold u just get the gold for it and keep ur stuff..u can find videos here on UA-cam
Anyone find a use for the metal Yurgir drops?
I killed Damon.... Evil playthrough
You need to put the items into the bag icon not the bag itself, that’s the nuance
I got a piece of this infernal stuff in the little ruins in act one as well, back where you can find shadowheart if you didnt rescue her
the room its in has a bunch of traps so send someone like asterion in to disarm them all
The mirror thing looks like more work than just save scumming. But otherwise high quality vid
honor mode
And again, THAT LAST ONE ONLY WORKS IN PC.
thanks for skipping past a "what's up guys" and getting right into it\
I seem to keep seeing other creators make stuff with this information, only for you to post it a few hours later.
If you're getting your content information from other sources, can you PLEASE just be a good guy and credit them? It's like 3 times now I've seen another creator post about something, only for you to post about it right after without credit.
Might be coincidence though, but you, as a BG3 creator, must be aware.
Hey Andy, there's no way for me to turn a video around in a few hours. This video took me over a week to make so I assure you I did not find someone's stuff and just turn it around a few hours later.
This video is made up of all of the shorts produced this week.
No boots..
I mean more or less everyone knows about the HElldusk set
Not gona lie the mirror one is such a waste as when you have to specify your character just for some point later on when all you need is rereloading. Just a wasted character creation when you can just make the character you want and do it for free. Lol
Can't reload in honour mode. Some people also don't like save scumming. Let people play the way they want to play lol
Can't say I haven't been enjoying the content or not finding it useful, but please start off with at least a short introduction to the video, when the video plays and immediately I hear first "FIRSToff!" It just feels weird and it's not uncommon on their butt on UA-cam it just doesn't feel right
First
I kinda hate these videos. I can't claim I've never save scummed in a game, but these videos that focus on getting absolutely every possible thing that makes you obnoxious are always something I never understand. I'm a player that makes choices then largely sticks to those choices, even if it costs me something that could be helpful, because that the point of a choice.
Everybody can play the game they bought with their money how they want, it just odd to me that so many focus on power fantasy nonsense.
I mean, it is nice to know someone stress tested the system. Optimization can be fun too
You hate vids showing secrets or often missed content in video games..? Why even watch it lol. Dumbest comment award right here
Going for the best ending and most complete walkthrough is a legit and popular way of playing, why it is obnoxious to you? Why do you even care?
Once again we see that this game is nothing more than a collection of tricks, bugs and exploits. How about just a good game that simply employs tactics?