We like to blend hot grain with cool wet grain in the bin to utilize the heat instead of blowing it out. And in bigger bins we have put 17% corn on top of dry corn and used a roof fan to bring it down to 15% .
Just a crazy off the wall thought. In the off season rap the auger from the dryer to the bin in flex tubing and continuously run water through it from the dugout and help cool the grain in the auger before going into the bin. Stay safe!
It is a great dryer. The boys run our superb dryer. It is made in our home town. Frankfort Indiana. Bill Beard was the owner of the company he sold to the Brock company. I do believe.
Might want to double check the fan rotation. I've even seen the sticker marking rotation on the wrong way. Buffeting fan, High temp alarms, overshooting all point to low airflow. Before the hatters start to hate I'm not JUST a keyboard mechanic, I have over 20 years of experience working with industrial burners and only want to try and help.
I was gonna mention the same thing. Centrifugal blowers with the wrong rotation will still have the correct direction of airflow but with all the cavitation your capacity will be only 50% of spec
@@rvhome5599 MMhh the hater is strong with this one ( said in Yoda voice ). I even called it out and you couldn't help yourself. I have two questions for you 1. What if they didn't and where still struggling ? 2. What if someone a year from now could help but didn't because people like you and the 2 thumbs up you got can only contribute in a negative manner? If your just a negative person fine you aren't the first and surely won't be the last, but have a moment of self reflection.
As a farmer who dries corn every year in Wisconsin, I enjoy watching you learn. I would like to join the others and suggest running in continuous mode. May need to slow the discharge auger so it isn’t banging around empty. I think what you heard about wrecking the galvanize is not true. Many many people dump hot here every year with no ill effect. Let the recieving bin do the cooling, beauty of your set up is if there would be a hot spot or something it will get moved and mixed and cooled shortly when transferring to large storage.
Hiya Mike... Just a quick question for you... After the dryer finally started performing as it is intended to... What did your moisture tester tell you what the moisture level of the grain was going in the dryer... Versus what the moisture level was of the grain coming out of the dryer...
Drying is fun. If it's warn, then it's get warmer sooner, but cool longer. If it's cool, then heat up slower, but cool faster. It's always something. 😅
in continuous flow mode you set the dry moisture and none of the grain gets over heated, you can run lower temp as well. there should be a floor dividing the heating chamber from the cooling chamber in the continuous flow mode. there for you are not discharging hot grain, it will still be warm and hopefully you will remove another 2 points cooling the grain. all the grain in the dryer is evenly dried instead of as in the batch mode the grain that is added during the drying cycle not getting as dried. you can end up with hot spots in the storage bin when batch drying. also you should have bot a dryer with the triangles in. they do a more even heat of the grain and use less gas per point of moisture removed. I would recommend a shivers in bin drying system of driers. they are continuous flow and the lowest gas use per point removed. the bin also gives you storage. with 1 x9 you should be able to dry at least 2000 bu/hr 5 point removal to keep one combine running during daylight hours. the person who sold you a 350 bu/hr drier did not do you any service. you should also have enough storage capacity at least one semi-load of propane and fill in the summer when prices are cheaper. your wet bin should be able to hold 3 days of drying and your dry bin 3 days as well, both should have 3 cfm/bu aeration to keep the wet grain from heating and to cool the dry grain faster making it ready to transfer to flat storage.
I’m no dryer expert either but that’s definitely the first time I herd a guy explain how to dry batch of grain in a continuous flow dryer ! First time also I herd dumping hot grain in a bin will remove the galvanized of the bin ! All the corn guy didn’t receive the memo I guess ! We learn something new everyday !
We did cooling in the bin with a batch dryer for 40 years and the inside of the bins never changed. It was a way to increase productivity with an older dryer and seemed to maintain test weight better than standard batch drying.
Look in the manual. There should be an auto cal function. You will need to tune your fuel gas valve and controller. In auto cal it will make changes to the fuel gas valve and the computer will save how the plenum temperature reacts. After done you will be able to hold temp right to the .5 deg. Any time a dryer has been completely disconnected from power or is new, you have to perform this function or something like it. Those computers are smart but come with baseline settings. Your using propane not natural gas and your air density given your location could be way different than its settings
All I know about grain dryers is they rarely work well… What I know is if I were to buy a new dryer I’d be damn sure to run it long before I thought I’d need it, you could’ve run dry grain through it anytime you wanted and all those problems would have become evident.
'Drying is an Art' Quote of the Century Choke point in batch drying system is the post-cook cooling You have enough bins and fans and cold air to 'review and revise' that part of the process.. Idea would be a second identical dryer.... oldie but goodie... with just the fans for cooling...without the burner... Take it to temp with the burner then transfer it to the second dryer for cooling.. 'Take the galvanize off the inside of a bin ' ? Never heard of that... Says more about the quality of the bin....or rather the 'not' quality ..
Maybe you could get the 100000 bushel bins now because when Chapel is taking over the price to do it might be 3-4 times what it is now. I know you might not have that money now but it could be a good decision for future
Hej Mike ist you Dryer Big enenough to be able to dry all your grain that you hear with your three combines in one day , the grain has water percentage above 20
Mike I would run it in continuous flow no reason to batch dry it, you're losing way too much efficiency going one batch at a time. I think you need to up size dryer and wet holding capacity if you're serious about drying a lot of acres of crop up there
As a farmer who dries corn every year in Wisconsin, I enjoy watching you learn. I would like to join the others and suggest running in continuous mode. May need to slow the discharge auger so it isn’t banging around empty. I think what you heard about wrecking the galvanize is not true. Many many people dump hot here every year with no ill effect. Let the recieving bin do the cooling, beauty of your set up is if there would be a hot spot or something it will get moved and mixed and cooled shortly when transferring to large storage.
You’ll get the hang of the dryer on your last batch, then you’ll need to start over again next year lol
We like to blend hot grain with cool wet grain in the bin to utilize the heat instead of blowing it out. And in bigger bins we have put 17% corn on top of dry corn and used a roof fan to bring it down to 15% .
That is a wicked dealio Mike!! I’m excited to watch your progress. Mentioning Chapel as part of the yard future plan makes us all happy.
Just a crazy off the wall thought. In the off season rap the auger from the dryer to the bin in flex tubing and continuously run water through it from the dugout and help cool the grain in the auger before going into the bin. Stay safe!
It is a great dryer. The boys run our superb dryer. It is made in our home town. Frankfort Indiana. Bill Beard was the owner of the company he sold to the Brock company. I do believe.
Not free drying. Some time sitting, helps the moisture spread to the outside of the grain seeds and uses the residual heat better.
Glad to see the drier works
Good you can keep an open mind & learn from others.
Pretty nice sample there..👏
Might want to double check the fan rotation. I've even seen the sticker marking rotation on the wrong way. Buffeting fan, High temp alarms, overshooting all point to low airflow. Before the hatters start to hate I'm not JUST a keyboard mechanic, I have over 20 years of experience working with industrial burners and only want to try and help.
Inbet they solved it in a week 😂❤
This was Sept8,I’m sure he figured it out by now or his wheat will be spoiled
I was gonna mention the same thing. Centrifugal blowers with the wrong rotation will still have the correct direction of airflow but with all the cavitation your capacity will be only 50% of spec
@@rvhome5599 MMhh the hater is strong with this one ( said in Yoda voice ). I even called it out and you couldn't help yourself. I have two questions for you
1. What if they didn't and where still struggling ?
2. What if someone a year from now could help but didn't because people like you and the 2 thumbs up you got can only contribute in a negative manner?
If your just a negative person fine you aren't the first and surely won't be the last, but have a moment of self reflection.
You honestly sound like you know what you’re talking about.
Great video Mike
As a farmer who dries corn every year in Wisconsin, I enjoy watching you learn. I would like to join the others and suggest running in continuous mode. May need to slow the discharge auger so it isn’t banging around empty.
I think what you heard about wrecking the galvanize is not true. Many many people dump hot here every year with no ill effect. Let the recieving bin do the cooling, beauty of your set up is if there would be a hot spot or something it will get moved and mixed and cooled shortly when transferring to large storage.
Hiya Mike...
Just a quick question for you...
After the dryer finally started performing as it is intended to...
What did your moisture tester tell you what the moisture level of the grain was going in the dryer...
Versus what the moisture level was of the grain coming out of the dryer...
You should like that girl we had a older one that dryed milo for years
Good luck combining your 2024 crops Mike and crew
Enjoyed the video Mike,especially your anti vibration upgrade!
Drying is fun. If it's warn, then it's get warmer sooner, but cool longer. If it's cool, then heat up slower, but cool faster. It's always something. 😅
Mike, with field corn you can pick up one point of moisture just by moving it in rain or moist conditions, I don’t know about wheat.
in continuous flow mode you set the dry moisture and none of the grain gets over heated, you can run lower temp as well. there should be a floor dividing the heating chamber from the cooling chamber in the continuous flow mode. there for you are not discharging hot grain, it will still be warm and hopefully you will remove another 2 points cooling the grain. all the grain in the dryer is evenly dried instead of as in the batch mode the grain that is added during the drying cycle not getting as dried. you can end up with hot spots in the storage bin when batch drying. also you should have bot a dryer with the triangles in. they do a more even heat of the grain and use less gas per point of moisture removed. I would recommend a shivers in bin drying system of driers. they are continuous flow and the lowest gas use per point removed. the bin also gives you storage. with 1 x9 you should be able to dry at least 2000 bu/hr 5 point removal to keep one combine running during daylight hours. the person who sold you a 350 bu/hr drier did not do you any service. you should also have enough storage capacity at least one semi-load of propane and fill in the summer when prices are cheaper. your wet bin should be able to hold 3 days of drying and your dry bin 3 days as well, both should have 3 cfm/bu aeration to keep the wet grain from heating and to cool the dry grain faster making it ready to transfer to flat storage.
I’m no dryer expert either but that’s definitely the first time I herd a guy explain how to dry batch of grain in a continuous flow dryer ! First time also I herd dumping hot grain in a bin will remove the galvanized of the bin ! All the corn guy didn’t receive the memo I guess ! We learn something new everyday !
I used to dump hot grain in the bin and it never damaged the galvanized
We did cooling in the bin with a batch dryer for 40 years and the inside of the bins never changed. It was a way to increase productivity with an older dryer and seemed to maintain test weight better than standard batch drying.
Look in the manual. There should be an auto cal function. You will need to tune your fuel gas valve and controller. In auto cal it will make changes to the fuel gas valve and the computer will save how the plenum temperature reacts. After done you will be able to hold temp right to the .5 deg. Any time a dryer has been completely disconnected from power or is new, you have to perform this function or something like it. Those computers are smart but come with baseline settings. Your using propane not natural gas and your air density given your location could be way different than its settings
Have you got a moisture meter to check the moisture after it's dried
Hvk and bleached are completely different. I’ve bought spring wheat completely bleached. But still made a #1
All I know about grain dryers is they rarely work well… What I know is if I were to buy a new dryer I’d be damn sure to run it long before I thought I’d need it, you could’ve run dry grain through it anytime you wanted and all those problems would have become evident.
Mike, Mike, Mike, if it wasn’t for your daily struggles, I don’t know if I can make it through the day😳😳😂😂😂
'Drying is an Art'
Quote of the Century
Choke point in batch drying system is the post-cook cooling
You have enough bins and fans and cold air to 'review and revise' that part of the process..
Idea would be a second identical dryer.... oldie but goodie... with just the fans for cooling...without the burner...
Take it to temp with the burner then transfer it to the second dryer for cooling..
'Take the galvanize off the inside of a bin ' ?
Never heard of that...
Says more about the quality of the bin....or rather the 'not' quality ..
We have a 2 million bushel bin and we're gonna add another 2 million bushel bins cause we picked more acres to farm.
Salut Mike magnifique vidéo et les cilo et les matériel pour les cilo sont bien
équipés et bien intéressante 😂😮😅😊
BINS
haha! you made the inexplicable choice to not get a mixed-flow dryer and are now paying the price!
U can throw all the grain in one bin !!! U might have a lot of fun selling the multi products together !!! Lol
How many hours will it take for the combines to cut 7200 bushels?
I’m kinda surprised with the size of the dryer. I would have thought you’d go bigger. Although it would be nice to not have to use it at all.
I’m gonna guess it’s the temp sensor that runs along the side of the dryer. Long copper sensor.
Be overly cautious and cover auger bin so it doesn’t fill up with water
It's a bit counter productive to cool down hot dryer every 45 min and then heat it up again. 🤔
It is... in corn we just run it continually and just keep adding corn and checking moister to adjust the rate it moves thru the dryer.
Have you calculated your LP use per bushel
I bet you replace that drier with a really big one within the next few year cause it doesn't dry fast enough lol. Tell me I'm wrong haha
Morning
You need to build a shed over the drier. So you don’t have to empty it before rain
Where do your workers live up there? Have you bought your dwelling for them yet?
Maybe you could get the 100000 bushel bins now because when Chapel is taking over the price to do it might be 3-4 times what it is now. I know you might not have that money now but it could be a good decision for future
Hej Mike ist you Dryer Big enenough to be able to dry all your grain that you hear with your three combines in one day , the grain has water percentage above 20
my dumb comment-if you're running a fan on the dry bin when the humidity is above 90 percent are you not putting moisture back into the grain
Thats Whats I thought to
I used to farm and left the fan on no matter what, as long as air flows it will stop the wheat from spoiling
👍👍👍
you should be running it in continuous flow mode
I think I would stop cutting at anything over 20% moisture.
Funny when you dry crops every year for 35 years you think it must be second nature for every farmer😊
Mike I would run it in continuous flow no reason to batch dry it, you're losing way too much efficiency going one batch at a time. I think you need to up size dryer and wet holding capacity if you're serious about drying a lot of acres of crop up there
Do you get the carbon tax on the propane ? Does the dryer tell your phone when it's fails ?
How many corn silo in your farm?
Tell me you’ve never watched a Mike Mitchell video without telling me you’ve never watched one 😂
@@6by6by6some people call grain bins silos
None
The season is too short and water to scarce to grow good corn in Saskatchewan.
@@vergyltantor3211 in Saskatchewan, how long is a crop?
Chapel won’t have time to be doing that, he’s going to be a movie star like his father 😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s new shouldn’t vibrate Mike 🫤
Mike your very ocd
You won’t ever dry a lentil
I’ve dried lots.
Mike, you should have let your wife buy that dryer!
Hahahaha LOL That’s a fact man
Maybe if the lights on the Deere combine was as good as the case 😂😂😂 all jokes aside
Should make nice $2 chicken feed…..
As a farmer who dries corn every year in Wisconsin, I enjoy watching you learn. I would like to join the others and suggest running in continuous mode. May need to slow the discharge auger so it isn’t banging around empty.
I think what you heard about wrecking the galvanize is not true. Many many people dump hot here every year with no ill effect. Let the recieving bin do the cooling, beauty of your set up is if there would be a hot spot or something it will get moved and mixed and cooled shortly when transferring to large storage.