The Universe Where Peter Kept the Symbiote (WORSE THAN VENOM)
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So there is a universe where Peter kept the symbiote, and just as I thought he became an immediate next level threat. Honestly, this should make his villains fear him even more now that they know what he's truly capable of.
in the comics when doc ock switches with peter and gets his body or however it goes and he becomes that evil
spider-man if i’m
correct the first bad guys he fights he punches one guys jaw clean off his face and that’s when he realized all those years peter was holding back and how if peter lost control or just miscalculated one of his attacks when fighting him that he could’ve died and that just shook him to his core it’s crazy
@@jdnwyd9501yea superior spiderman he knocked scorpions jaw clean off
@@bigezy420yes i was just going back to find the vid to get the actual correct details and characters and you’re correct its crazy to think about that
@@jdnwyd9501otto was shitting bricks
@@jdnwyd9501 Every one of Spider-Mans enemies would fear him if they knew just how powerful he really is.
“Resulting in May’s untimely death “ sir May has been 90 years old since 1964.
The Spider's shadow is by far the darkest Spider-Man story ever in which Peter Parker kept the Symbiote. This would lead to him killing some of his worst enemies, including the Kingpin.
DARKEST WHAT IF.... STORY?
What about the time venom took over his corpse
He didn’t kill Kingpin, Kingpin survives that punch somehow and at the end they hint that Kingpin managed to keep a symbiote.
@@niktogaming2466 he keeps a spawn of it
@@niktogaming2466god damn it daredevil needs drastic measures for that one
Peter was going giving that real justice in this version lol
Spider-Man with the Symbiote is nearly as strong as Carnage. Which is very scary
He would be stronger if he was ever fully merged with it. Much, much stronger. The symbiotes amplify what's already there on top of the other powers they bring, and that amplification ramps up according to how strong their host-bond is.
i think yeah.@@tek512
The 90's animated series was so awesome.
I want the reality where Peter with his morals keeps the symbiote in check and he becomes a hero like Agent Venom did. Tired of Spidey's will just taking a +10 debuff whenever the symbiote is involved.
Spider-man 2!! He gets anti venom suite and keeps it with no negative effects so this is gonna be a power he keeps in the games.
@@mrprodigy0526 IDC for Anti-Venom I want Venom
@@ShacoAlon srry ☹️
So basically 80's black suit spiderman?
@@miltain no wait you mean the comics
You forgot the part where Peter replaces Mister Fantastic as the new leader of the Fantastic Four.
Sorry I forgot about that! I'll remember next time! Thanks for telling me
I thought you were going to mention when he rejoined with Venom and started calling himself Poison.
Would have been cool if you showed scans of the comic….
2:40 Or it is goblin’s fault?! For throwing bombs at people?! Spiderman’s only fault is he didn’t kill all the bad guys when he had a chance
based
Sounds almost like what happened if MJ was shot instead of Aunt May in Civil War
There is a universe where Peter actually keeps, not the symbiote, but the carnage resulting him to be the Spider-Carnage and fighting Ben Rally.
Wouldn't a prolonged bonding with the symbiote would cause it to essentially consumed Peter's entire body, leaving only the skeleton underneath the suit?
Depeneds on the Earth I think
Because in another What If, where he kept the Suit, he simply grew Older in a few Months and then died of a Heart attack as a 85+ year old Man, while Venom bonded to Hulk
It used to be that way. But I think they chose to quit adapting it because it’s too dark.
Unless he also got it from the comics beforehand, that was just a Sam Raimi "what if". He wanted to do that with Eddie in Spider-Man 3 but it would have upped the movies rating to R.
Eddie had Venom for awhile now in the comics and is know like the king of Symbiotes or something like that, so yeah I think they retconned it.
@@OG-ColorfulAbyss. It also happened in the comics at one point I’m pretty sure! And they stopped making it deteriorate the host.
If Spiderman was the only hero in his universe and kept Venom, he could become a global tyrant in under a year.
This is what happens when Lord Guru and Elde Kai unlock Peter's potential 😂
Great story
Those villains should be glad that they have a Peter who makes bad jokes while fighting.
Things CAN get far far worse. Great vid!
@The Marvelous Wave What's really interesting it that it was originally the animated and movie adaptations that is actually responsible for the "symbiote makes Peter edgy and evil," theme that most of us are used to. What the symbiote was originally doing in the comics wasn't that, per say: What the symbiote did (as read from the symbiote's point of view) was consider Peter his friend. The symbiote really admired and respected how kind hearted Peter was, which was why the symbiote loved Peter so much (and eventually became confused and hurt after Peter rejected him later, thus causing the symbiote to have the likeness of the venom we know today). Despite this, the symbiote was still an alien who didn't have the same culture per say and didn't have the same perspective of what was right and wrong. What I mean by this is that the symbiote admired Peter and wanted to help him when Pete was getting stressed out about having to manage Life and crime-fighting, so as a result, the symbiote started taking Peter's body on a crime fighting joyride while Pete was asleep as a means to try to take the load off of Pete's back to not have him stressed out. The only thing is, the symbiote didn't realize that by it wearing Peter's body while he slept, it made Peter really tired (and when we are tired, we don't act the same as when we are well rested). Additionally, when the symbiote was trying to help Pete by crime fighting for him as he slept, the symbiote would brutally beat the heck out of anyone that was an evildoer, unlike Pete who would show restraint. It was almost comical seeing how the calm, seemingly friendly symbiote would be so brutal and seem so innocent. LOL.
Funny things about that: The symbiote would put Peter in an artificial coma so that way he would not be woken up when it was using Pete's body to crime fight for him. Reed Richards is the one who convinced Peter to take off the symbiote immediately after looking into it. "Venom," was trying to help the whole time and got bitter once rejected after doing so. The symbiote didn't come off as truely evil at all, nor did it have a direct effect on how he treated others other than being exhausted and tired physically due to Venom using Peter's body to crime fight for him.
ooo nice
I want a Spider-Man game where you just not taking off the symbiote and being a complete menace
i would love to see them make a movie with this alternate universe story arc
In web of shadows theres a ending where peter keeps the symbiote and becomes the leader of them
Hell yeah
So, in some stories or whatever venom was actually doing good but Peter didn’t see that due to venom always leaving Peter fatigued, so he tried to remove venom and that’s what filled venom with rage. Wouldn’t venom be good in those timelines if spiderman never took off venom?
I don't anything else shows how much Peter is holding back than that time when Doc Octavious got control of his body and accidentally killed someone in one punch.
Yes, he kills all his villains, and then he dies from it
this is interesting
Understanding the nature of Klyntar and how they function, how they need a physically and morally a perfect host, otherwise they "spoil" and rot, like Venom. Maybe there's a universe where Peter keeps Venom and fixes him.
Geeze ... when supervillain kill people andn ruin lives everyone is like : "okay let's throw them in prison and then est them free if they behave". But when a superheroic figure start to kill those villain who are a guenuine threat to the people and the city and had who had killed before, people are : "Spider-man is evil and a monster, let's kill him or throm him in prison instead of his rogue gallery"
Really why is it so much easier for people to start hating heroes and vigilante rather than the villains who are the reason why super heroes exist and snap in the first place ?
That is such a dumb statement.
It is not.
Thing is, spider man was a global threat
I hate how inconsistent the narrative is around venom/symbiotes. They really need to do a reset
Vowing revenge on the guy who made it known that he has been pulling punches and strong enough to kill their colleagues?
Smart. 👏🏿
lets be honest..... spider-man with symbiote is obv better than a random powerless dude with a symbiote
The universe where everyone got some dirt in their eyes.
Wasn't there a cut jumpscare in Spiderman 3 that shows what Spiderman would become if he kept the suit?
Basically, yes. A venomized black suit spider man with a mouth similar to Poison.
imagine we got a movie of the venom symbiote fully bonding with spiderman
Song’s name??
I find it interestinf how killing is treated so widely differently in comics. Like, soldiers and cops kill bad guys every day and we call them heroes. Nobody decried Seal Team 6 as "crossing a line" when they killed Bin Laden. Similarly, Iron Man and others in the MCU kill bad guys constantly, and nobody calls them evil. On the other hand, when Batman continually refuses to kill his rogues gallery, they get out time and time akd time again killing thousands of people. So a good argument could be made that Batman's unwillingness to kill is actually morally wrong because he knows that each time he jails them, there is a near 100% chance that they'll get out and murder more people. That's calculus Batman actually does, which means he bears some responsibility for their deaths. Anyway, I just find the flip-flopping on this point, even within the same comics universes, to be a weird line to draw and it's handled weirdly by the writers too.
You seem to fundamentally misunderstand what being "heroic" means. Killing someone, even if they deserve, or need to be killed is not heroic. Soldiers are not heroes BECAUSE they kill. SEAL Team 6 were not heroes because the shot a terrorist. It is for the other aspects of what they do that make them "heroes". They put their lives on the line to ostensibly make the world a better place. That does not inherently mean "kill the bad guy". Is it easier to completely remove a villain from the board to prevent potential future occurances? Yes. Is that a heroic act? No, it most certainly is not.
@@marcruth4531 I think you fundamentally misunderstand my post, and the way of the world. I'm not saying the *act* of killing is heroic, I'm saying that the long trotted out argument in comics that "heroes don't kill" or "not killing is what separates heroes from villains" is bullshit because there are clear examples of heroes killing villains for the greater good, both in comics and in real life. The argument that some comics approach it with is completely arbitrary and nonsensical (again, see Batman vs Joker) and the way it varies in its application even within the same comic universe even among teammates and good friends (Iron Man kills, Cap kills, Spiderman doesn't) is largely arbitrary.
"they put their lives on the line to ostensibly make the world a better place". So, just like ALL the fictional heroes Ryne is talking about.
The truth about comic killing is that its bad because its fiction and killing characters deletes them from future stories we could enjoy
Superheroes work outside the justice system. Killing criminals would be a massive abuse of power, subverting the ability of the people to decide the punishment
If I’m a villain and saw Spider-Man killing several of my comrades I would NOT be exacting revenge afterwards! I don’t care if he doesn’t have the black suit anymore that’s STILL SPIDER-MAN
I mean in the Shattered Dimensions game you play as a peter who kept the symbiote.
But he has full control over it
@@veermcnair8041 that's my point 😂
@@oneautumnleaf2622only cuz of the mistress using her powers
all madam web did was keep it from overwhelming him, even tho it does in game lol, this peter was fine with it on tbh @@blu3d3vil97
@@blu3d3vil97You mean Madam Web.
Nah because when their found out he can move the earth😭😭
Blue white and turquoise Peter is the strongest variation
Mm
So has Peter ever became Venom
Yes
Yes, but only for a few moments in some of the comics.
In the ultimate universe he briefly became venom after catching a shooter that looked like his uncle's killer. He got it off by jumping into power lines before he could hurt anyone.
In the 616, he briefly became venom after Green goblin with the carnage symbiote fatally injured flash Thompson, who was agent anti-venom at that point.
He turned back after flash convinced him to before he died.
Ok but in the comics peter's personality never changes, this is only true in the comic you said and any adaptation since the 90s series
Spider-man here is essentially Injustice Superman
Not entirely.
First: Yeah he killed some villains but he was able to remove the symbiote by surviving villains and help of good ol' JJJ.
Second: He decided to atoune for his wrongdoings instead of going on a killing spree like Sups in The Injustice.
Symbiote suit Peter doesn’t fuck around💀
I think Peter would’ve killed every single villain less than a minute he’s been in a black suit for 10 months but he still not venom but he’s killing every one turning them into monsters, like in Spider-Man two He will take over the world just like with Spider-man 2 spider-Man two it doesn’t happen but in this universe in the it will he will become too powerful where he eats universes and that’s the true power of this venom. and by the end he’s been in it for over 10 years.
I'm actually he Was able to take it off and and he saved New York Earth I don't understand
Eh... Wasn't the suit supposed to eventually devour him if he fully bonded with it?
meh. I wanted to pacify the Symbiote.
Come on man, some of us just got the new game for Christmas. I came here for a comics recap, not for you to spoil the game I'm currently playing...
I need the read this comment
bro just made a worse version of another video with spoilers of random shows and games instead of comic panels. nice
spiderman 2 ps5 was such an ass story literal the main writer self insert yelling about all men through mary and it is so dogshi
Go insert your rants on a video about how the game is "woke trash"
You the one person I’ve seen say that
Tbh I wish we had multiple endings in which he kept the suit canonically 🥲 (Like WOS)
@@Oils36 im literally not the first game was awesome, but this ones story was pure ass when we could have got something like this thats actually good
@@Shtick0 it is tho lef tpropaganda everywhere and in the first ten minutes spiderman talks about taking your second amendment and replacing them with compliments like come one bruh. its obious as fuck that this game is woke second hand slop, its not my fault you let the hyp go to your head and cant see the flaws, THE FIRTST GAME WAS AWESOME sub room temp iq