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I like the idea that the stones are becoming reborn, given that the energy of the stones can never really be destroyed.
not really. infinity stones are found throughout different realities, which is why the TVA used them as paperweights
@@benginaldclocker2891wdym ‘not really’.. the commentor said he likes the idea of the main universe’s stones becoming reborn since they cant truly be destroyed. Saying the tva has a bunch of them.. literally only helps his point out 😅
He never technically said he destroyed the stones he just said that they were reduced to atoms which would essentially mean that they were shrunk on a quantum level
@@devonkline8267 "I used the stones to destroy the stones" is a literal quote from Thanos
@@echo_z319but the stones were destroyed in only one of the universe. So it's energy should only effect that universe, so everything relating to that like it's rebirth or anything should happen in that universe. Loki becoming a time god and stuff happened outside of all realities.
This could explain why in season 1 of Loki, he’s the most pruned person in the multiverse. He was kept from his true legacy for so much time till now
They were pruned just because to find the one and only Loki
I think this was kang's idea of making sure that only that loki came to him and was handed the reigns without spawning another kang variation.
He was kept from his true glorious purpose.
@@AbdulBidoexcept there’s infinite kangs. We already got the council
@@mr.m2695 isn't the premise of the show's first season having a sacred timeline. Thus HWR being victorious over the council?
I believe that instead of the watcher for the space stone, America is better suited. America already has the ability to summon a portal to anywhere in the multiverse and her powers are blue which very closely resembles the space stone.
She's also Unique to the multiverse. There is only one America among the entire multiverse, which is very unique
I also thought that the Mind Stone could be somewhat related to the Phoenix Force, which also ties in with introducingthe X-Men
And her powers are light blue, similar to the space stone...
@@guilhermesavoya2366no. Phoenix force is it’s own thing
@@Pickled_Poetand yet… there is America Chavez in the comics, and as far as we can tell, the two are not the same
Now that we have Loki as Time and Wanda as Reality, I think power could be Captain Marvel, Mind is Professor X, Space could be America Chavez, and Moon Knight could be soul
True but maybe Shang-Chi could be the Soul Stone or Doctor Strange
america chavez definitely fits the space force. She is the only 1 in the multiverse and can jump across space...
@@mark293293 Loki was able to time slip into other realities as well.. He could probably find a Variant of America Chavez if he reversed time like he did in the TVA
And in his realization with O. B., he found out he can slip to any point in space as well as time, so Loki is pretty much every infinity stone. Maybe except for the Soul stone
@@Mr.Alternitynot really. The whole point of America’s story was that there is only one of her. Hence Wanda only going after HER.
I hope the Infinity Stones come back in some way. I feel like there is still a story to be told with the, especially for the ones we barely got to see like the Soul Stone.
Why
Marvel is never getting back to first or second phase magic
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I really hope we get a version of Cap trynna stop an occursion but causing them to shatter instead with the gauntlet shit be dope aaf
@@Funboi68 Marvel is likely gonna get bought out by another big player in the film industry eventually so hopefully they'll fix everything without ruining it
Lol marvel is owned by Disney, there is no one else to buy it out, no way Disney will sell their potential cash cow
@@Funboi68 😂
Something tells me that based on this theory thors “daughter” is the power stone, she shoots purple lasers as the power stone can shoot purple blasts and at a young age she can wield storm breaker which requires incredible strength and power
This. Love is the Power Stone, Wanda the Reality, Loki the Time, Captain Marvel the Space, and we do not actually know who the Mind and Soul Stones are. It's likely that they all have to be MCU versions specifically, so no mutants or other universe versions, nor Uatu, it's not likely at all, although it is likely that Reed or Wiccan will be the Mind, and perhaps either Wiccan or Vision the Soul. Who knows.
Love is already Eternity though.
@@lexruptorCaptain Marvel has nothing from the Space Stone except for the "infinite energy" part, though.
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 I agree with that point and would like to throw Thor himself into the mix. Wielding Storm Breaker gives him the power to teleport which is an aspect of the space stone. I also like to point out that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transferred / transformed. So it would make since if the infinity stones were transferred into beings. That being said it would most likely only affect the citizens of the current MCU and not any others because their power is limited to its own universe, unless attached to something or someone like we saw in "What if..." season 1.
America Chavez is the space stone. Her powers are blue, she can teleport and she's one of a kind.
I would consider that any character previously seen as a Nexus being would be a candidate for this theory. Characters like Loki, Wanda, Moira, spiderman, Reed, phoenix, etc. they're literally stated to be the sole being holding an aspect of the universe together. Cool video
We can probably eliminate spiderman
@@transyuri4534 but the web of life and destiny connects with the marvel timeline and represents its own dimension. There's always a spider person, or at least the Parker family.
@@MyNameBeeKayy Yeah but spiderman is always a street level hero.
@@transyuri4534 technically Moira MacTaggert doesn't have any abilities, yet as a geneticist she holds the X-Men verse together. But this is a good point.
@@transyuri4534 Right let's just act like spider-hulk and cosmic spiderman aren't a thing that exists. Or zombie spiderman that had a portion of the same powersource that the silver surfer uses or the weird japanese spiderman that has a kaiju sized robot because 70s tv.
Instead of Reed being the personification of the mind stone I was thinking Charles Xavier.
And having the spot of the stone of the fantastic four, better silver surfer being the space stone
I think it's white vision or Mr fantastic
@@Jack-eh8mg Vision would be perfect
Actual good theory but I feel like its somebody who has been hinted at in the mcu but never fully shown charles Xavier as you said is the most likely choice
@@alexricky87 Yeah he would
I actually find this incredibly interesting because it gives a decent reason for the powers and why they are now being used instead of different gemstones but now people which is epic and cool but with time being Loki , reality being Wanda who are the others
It also helps that Loki and Wanda are the only two characters in the MCU who have literally ascended to something bigger than who they used to be with Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch (and even having her own throne in MoM + hinting that there is only one Scarlet Witch in the MCU (it's been a while since I saw the movie)) and Loki becoming the God of Stories and having a throne in Yggdrasil
I *REALLY* want to see them and Doctor Strange interact!
Loki is the time stone. Wanda is the reality stone. Monica AKA photon is the mind Stone. The power Stone is ms.marvel. the space stone is America Chavez. The soul Stone is shang chi. The physical reputation of The gauntlet that hold the stones is Spider-Man And the wielder of The gauntlet is Doctor strange.
Brilliant! Thank you
Seems legit.
No i dont agree
I’d buy that for a dollar. That would make for a better story that whatever MCU will crap out over the next decade.
I think gorrs daughter is the power stone given she was made with enteritys power
While her appearance in multiverse of madness was lit that string, and her powers weren’t well controlled, I’d say American Chavez is a good choice for the space stone. Once she gets better control over her powers, she can go anywhere in any multiverse she wants, basically the exact powers of the space stone. And as far as we know, she is the only variant of that character
She is because she doesn't have dreams
I don't find that very convincing as that's not the power of the space stone. The space stone is about controlling the fabric of space in its OWN universe, not the multiverse.
I think Love resembles the space stone FAR better than Chavez as she was created by the very embodiment of space and her true form embodied the cosmos itself.
I’m predicting Loki for time, Wanda for reality, Agatha harkness as power, Jean grey (dark phoenix) as mind once she appears in mcu due to her telepathy, Adam warlock as soul (expecting future power upgrades), and america Chavez as space (she seems to be getting stronger and stronger)
especially since Warlock is the only member of the infinity watch who is genuinely known for having a stone.
power seems to be split between Agatha, Black Panther, and Love
@@KR-P Honestly, I am all for Love getting the Power Stone, it would be so interesting to watch this girl accessing such power
Oddly enough I had speculated on this back when Wandavision and Loki came out
Kamala's powers are more associate with power based energy and color purple, than Agatha. (The kamala's bangles also incinerates people who aren't chosen. Just like how power stone did)
I remember in multiverse of Madness it specified that there is only one scarlet witch in all the multiverse, since at the destruction of the Scarlet Witch's temple, every copy of the darkhold in the multiverse was destroyed.
I feel like the power stone would much more fit the character "Love" form Thor Love and Thunder. As her magic is purple and we can assume she is quite powerful, being "born" by Eternity.
Yeah maybe. However there is better options that isnt a child
The child essentially became a manifestation of eternity
But Eternity is the physical manifestation of space and her true form embodied the cosmos. So she resembles the space stone much better.
We shouldn't focus too much on the colours as the colours was changed in MCU and it isn't very universal.
So the Infinity Stones have been reborn as Multiverse Entities. Meaning Scarlet Witch has control of all reality, while Loki controls all of Time.
I wonder if The Vision has full control of the mind while maintaining the power of the Mind stone.
I’d fully agree with you, but slight problem is we could have a conflict of which vison is the keeper of the mind
I think its clear that the wanda vision conjured vision was a piece of the mind stone tithed to her to form Through her powers. He has the ability to unlock the real visions memories and fully act against wandas will unlike the rest of the town and her kids. The act of saving the real vision we see the real ones eyes change feeling as if although a fake reconnected him with his missing piece making the white vision once again the entity of the mind stone
@@ferretshadowprod I really like that answer lol
I like the idea of smaller characters (power wise) being lifted up to a mutiversal being. Half the people you mention on this list though are already way beyond the powers of the stones combined much less a single one of them. The watchers are more powerful than any one stone and the living tribunal and the one above all are strong enough that the stones to them are merely like grains of sand on a beach so having them become a living embodiment of the stone would only weaken them honestly. Richards and warlock are fun choices though.
Reed used to be the smartest person but then Doctor Strange MoM happened and he's a moron.
was referencing the comic book versions of the characters but fair point lol. @@protorhinocerator142
I would love to see who would represent the rest of the stones. Then a movie where they all have to come together to defeat a big bad.
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I always thought it was weird that wanda had powers exactly like the reality stone even though she got her powers from the mind stone.
I reckon Kahhori could be the personification of the Space Stone.
Soul Stone could be Goddess of Life Hela.
I feel like a good Power Stone entity could be a version of the Hulk.
Perhaps now that ZolaVision is free, maybe he or UltraVision could ascend to become a god of the mind, kinda beautifully ironic that such a title would go to an AI.
Who do you think might be multiversal personifications of the Infinity Stones?
If MCU Pietro didn’t die to extreme fast bullet fire, I fell like he could be a prime contender for the Multiversal entity of the space stone being right next to his sister. As you’ve mentioned him being able to move fast around space. And him and his sister’s powers were born from the same stone.
I agree, this is great theory. I wouldn't focus so much on comic books and more on characters that already exist with context of comic books. I would also say, that it isn't just about power, but responsibility. Loki is literally holding Multiverse together now, in one big word tree, so why not think about similar concepts? Like web of life and destiny? That is another concept that is as important as world tree connect with existing characters. Of course, it doesn't need to be one of spidermans (but they are hot candidates) but it could be Madame Web or some other character involved with spidermans. They could be representing soul, mind, space or power (earliest tip, more I think it's likely). When you say character representing mind, I thought about professor X or Jean Grey. Phoenix force and Phoenix itself would be interesting element in this Multiversal cosmology. Maybe Phoenix will want to destroy all universes and recreate them, but his Phoenix force is necessary for existence of universes (like it's dark energy, reason why is space still growing) so someone will need to take control and tame Phoenix to keep energy to continue to come into Multiverse, but not destroying them. That would point towards power or space stones, but Phoenix is usually associate with mind, so it could have different role or what I described will happen with something different, like enigma force or something like that.
my theory is that the next one will be dr strange with the soul stone since they both have the same colour magic as the soul stone,followed by gorr's daughter with the power stone as we see that gorr's daughter has purple magic just like the power stone
I really believe in this theory, especially when we consider characters that are "unique", and if Marvel wants, it fits:
- Loki, a god, representing Time Stone;
- Scarlet Witch, a mythical witch, representing the reality stone;
These are the ones that were presented and developed. Now some who would need to be presented or developed:
- Adam Warlock, a soulless homunculus who developed one of the noblest souls, represented to Soul Stone. (GOTG);
- Jean Grey, an omega level telepath that merged perfectly with the entity responsible for creating Psionic energy, representing Mind Stone. (X-Men);
- Galactus, a colossal being who was the only survivor of the end of an entire universe, and became pure power of destruction, representing Power Stone. (Fantastic Four);
- Kahhori or America Chavez, both are the only manifestations of what Space Stone does throughout the multiverse, which leads me to believe that one of them will represent Space Stone. (Before Kahhori appeared, I believed more in America, but I think Kahhori fits better on this role);
Yall forgot Captain Marvel is litteraly powered by space. The Watcher too is linked to space.
Monica who just like Wanda is linked to Primal CNBR energy. All energy spectrum in fact.
God of Life Hela is also a candidate for soul stone.
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The anti-ultron
I thought Stan Lee was the one above all.
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The concept is a great one! If they run with this, I can see the Space stone being personified in America Chavez. The Mind Stone sounds like it ought to belong to a telepath, such as the eventual arrival of Xavier. The Power stone can be introduced in The Sentry. That just leaves the Soul stone. Maybe one who has been to the other side and returned, like Moon Knight?
America space stone and sentry power stone I agree but jean grey mind stone being strongest telepath and Adam warlock has to be soul stone cause he always had it in comics
Adam Warlock is associated with the Soul Stone in the HQs, and he was introduced in the Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I think it could be him. Also, I think Mind Stone could be personified by Jean Grey aka Dark Phoenix.
@@paulsancho88lmao I should've read your comment before commenting
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I disagree with America resembling the space stone as she is more of a multiversal portal creator than a space manipulator(i know portal creation is a form of space manipulation but what i mean is that that seems to be the extent of her resemblance to the space stone).
I think Love resembles the space stone much better as she was created by THE physical manifestation of space and her true form resembled him, ie, embodying the cosmos.
After the 6th episode of What If..?, with the introduction of Kahorri (given that her power was given after absorbing the energy of the Space Stone)... this is starting to seem more likely. It can't be too much of a coincidence... and if they either create or write in a hero (or villain) with a great power similar to or derived from the Mind, Soul, or Power Stones, then I think we can step past coincidence.
Interesting notion!
How the MCU will adapt it (if they do) should be something!
Loki definitely represents the time stone but he also represents the space stone as he moves through space as well and could also represent the mind stone as he, along with Sylvi, have been able to enchant and control people and he could even have some soul power because he is literally giving life to the multiverse... Wanda does the same thing herself so they sort of both have Mind Stone powers in addition to the Reality Stone powers. America and the Watcher also have space stone attributes too as you said. I think anyone who has above human powers may have had some sort of magic from a stone itself, like that they were born or imbued with some sort of connection to a stone, that they literally power the universes and some just draw that power more (I don't know if I'm explaining it as well as I am seeing it in my head lol). Nexus being are those who can just harness them best or maybe even have abilities that represent multiple stones.
Im so glad someone else noticed and pointed it out. I think thor will end up being the soul stone, captain marvel the power stone and vision or reed richards becoming the mind stone, and someone as of yet revealed maybe the silver surfrr for the space stone. Anyone got any guesses. Doesnt have to be directly from the 616
I find it funny that initially Scarlet Witches power was thought to be Chaos Magic, which pissed off Dr. Strange, as Chaos Magic isn't supposed to be real.
Its crazy how you nist forgot Carol. Sbe literally makes wormholes . Even if she never reaches that multiversal level she is legit space stone. Her reigniting a son was definitely slept on..
in my opinion the space stones embodiment is america chavez. she also says there is only one of her.
Well back in immortal Hulk they one above all literally told Hulk that he was the hand the one above all used to destory. So I think at soke point might become to embodiment of the power stone. It only makes sense. Remember what Hulk said back in endgame. The stones are mainly giving off gamma radiation...its like he was born for this. Pretty sure thats foreshadowing.
This also makes so much sense especially with the new What If episode with Kahori!
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Quicksilver drawing on the space stone for his speed is backed up in the comics; when Thanos is collecting the gems in "Thanos Quest", he gets the space gem from the cosmic Runner, the supposedly fastest being in the universe, and reveals that the Runner never actually moved when he ran, he was subconsiously using the Space gem to move the universe around him.
And yet Wanda is literally a walking infinity gauntlet 😊
girl literally destroyed an infinity stone with one hand while blocked a beam from 5 infinity stones using the other hand.
I like the idea that the end of Strange's arc has him ascending to THE Strange Supreme of all universes, as the new "soul stone"
So far, here is who I think will be the avatar of each infinity stone.
Time-Loki
Reality-Scarlet Witch
Space-America Chavez (possibly Peter Quill from s2 of what if?, but probably not)
Power-Love (Thor's daughter)
Soul-Steve Rogers (maybe some other Captain America)
Mind-Reed Richards (maybe a variant of Tony or his daughter, Shuri, or a different genius)
I'm not too sure about the mind or soul stones, let me know what you think.
i don't think the Watcher would be one of these entities, he seems to be just a sort of passive outside force.
If anything, I'd nominate Strange Supreme from What If as one of these entities, perhaps soul, since he's absorbed so many others. Then again, i also like the idea of him basically becoming a Watcher-in-training, so that would also be a good endgame for him in my mind.
if i could "Define" the power stone, i think I'd limit to to one word: Energy. The Power stone embodiment in my mind would not be some one-above-all God, or some entity able to control everything, but would instead be someone with access to infinite energy, a living reactor that can channel and push that power anywhere they like. I don't know if anything like this currently exist in the MCU, but it's my first guess.
After hearing the name One Above All name. I thought that definitely sounds like a badass wrestling belt. “ here’s your One Above All WWE CHAMPION. With a man standing atop a mountain made out of Diamonds/gold/silver. Standing at the peak holding up a belt!!
I've had some version of this theory for awhile. WANDA was always clearly connected to REALITY on a fundamental level. Her powers may have been awakened by the mind stone, but my original theory was that when the stones were destroyed in 19999, the aspects of infinity sought new hosts. No one is more clearly connected to reality than Wanda. Her magic itself takes on a similar appearance to the reality stone's power.
I had also considered LOKI for TIME, and then after the season finale I am convinced.
I agree with many other commentors that AMERICA CHAVEZ seems the clear choice for SPACE. She can not only instinctively open portals to anyplace she wants to go, she can visit any dimension in the multiverse. She was also born in a place beyond space. She is also often a nexus being and sometimes only one version of her exists. Her powers are also blue in appearance. It is possible even within this that Pietro is using some of the space stone's power, similar to Kahori, without embodying space itself.
America Chavez actually leads into my pick for the mind stone. It could very well be someone like Jean Grey or Vision, Kang Prime, or even someone like Charles Xavier or Tony Stark. If any of those are likely I would guess it to be Jean Grey, but I actually think BILLY MAXIMOFF would be the best choice. At times he has been shown to eclipse even his mother in power, and is a telepath who has subconscious control over the world around him. He is also elevated to a deity known as the demiurge in the comics, he built America's home reality. While Jean Grey is an omega level telepath, she is the host for the phoenix force, which represents life itself I believe. Her mind is also perhaps too tortured to fully embrace it. Not to mention she does not yet exist in the MCU.
I think all of the aspects of infinity should go to people who truly represent these aspects, in both life and ability.
Loki is lost in time, never having enough, the progression of time means so much to him, to choose which path he takes.
Wanda has a fractured relationship with reality, and her desperation is to achieve the reality she has her family in, everything is for that.
I know I am not explaining this well.
America's powers are obviously connected directly to space. I also like how each stone seems to have a pair with another, how they are connected.
Space and time are clearly connected, and influencing one can influence the other. I would then argue mind and reality are most closely connected.
That leaves soul and power.
I think the HULK is the most fulfilling choice for POWER. It is what he represents, his struggle and fear of his own power. Hulk is the strongest there is, with seemingly no limit to that power.
Each of the hosts also have an almost negative relationship with their power.
There is no time for Loki, no place for America, no true reality for Wanda. There are multiple telepaths tortured by the minds of others. I like Wiccan the most for that.
Adam Warlock makes perfect sense for SOUL, but allow me to offer some other choices. Whoever has it I think should have a struggle with recognizing their own soul. Which Adam Warlock would qualify.
Also Vision, I think, would make an excellent host. In the comics, the soul stone came to a synthetic boy, and I really liked where they went with that. To that end, one of the Eternals could be a very good choice. Druig, who has spent his life forced to see the worst in everyone, then believed he was useless and made of false pretense. Makkari, who is still figuring out who she is. Sprite, who has been made one thing and never had a chance to be otherwise. She is a creature of illusions, soul would be truth. Thena, who is love and protection personified. There is even more of that in the comics. I wouldn't choose Sersi, Kingo, Gilgamesh, or Ajak, because, this will sound strange, I feel they are too confident in what they are and their own purpose. Phastos could make a very good one but I don't think he'd enjoy that much introspection. So, in order from least likely to most, Makkari, Thena, Sprite, Druig, or my personal choice, Ikaris. Eternals are incapable of using magic, but their celestial power is gold. Ikaris has just had everything he ever fought for, everything he ever was and knew taken from him, then attempted to commit suicide. I think this would be the perfect chance to discover his own soul.
Would also like to remind everyone that Gamora was inside of the stone Thanos destroyed, was she freed, or maybe she is now the embodiment of soul.
Also Spider-man would be good for soul obviously but like Jean Grey I feel like the spider-sense multiversal web connection should remain a separate thing.
So is Warlock gonna be the MCUs Tinman? A test tube baby just looking for a soul?
I rate Power stone should either go to Hulk as his capacity for power is endless as long as he keeps getting angrier, or Jean Gray (Dark Pheonix). The Soul stone would be Dr Strange. Reality - Scarlet Witch. Time - Loki. Mind - either Xavier or Richards. Space stone - Nightcrawler / Blink
I LOVE this theory and you might be onto something. I think, however, I have better candidates for the personification of some of the Stones.
I think the key is that the character has to be aware of the multiverse, like Loki and Wanda are.
The Power Stone is purple. Who is aware of the multiverse, has purple as a major color in their motif and has TONS of power? Strange Supreme.
The Soul Stone is orange. While this person doesn't exude orange energy (or any energy at all), they're aware of the universe and and willing to sacrifice for the greater good. Captain Carter. This would jive so well with the Red Skull being the guardian of the Soul Stone of 616.
The Space Stone is blue. This video was released before What If season 2, so maybe you'll agree with me on this one. Aware of the multiverse? Check. Blue energy? Check. Related to the Space Stone? El checkeroni. Kahhori.
I think the Mind Stone is being saved for someone we haven't met yet, or who hasn't "ascended" to understanding the multiverse. It could certainly be Reed, but what about that guy in the YELLOW wheelchair? The one with the PSIONIC powers? Teacher Y, or something? ;)
It could be a coincidence, but I believe one of the qualifications for obtaining the title of stone is committing a significant mistake/crime and then redeeming oneself. Perhaps because the stones are chaotic neutral by nature.
Time = Loki (key antagonist in Infinity Saga).
Reality = Scarlet Witch (Infinity saga / Westview / MoM)
Mind = Professor X (Wipe out mutant/human)
Soul = Phoenix
Power = Star Lord (Bash Thanos?)
Space = America Chavez
If this is the case, it adds to the story's complexity because most people in the multiverse would not accept Loki or Wanda as their gods; image all six of them being like those two.
I love this theory a lot. I also want to theorize that the person representing the stone may be a character that is most influential or significant in each of the Avengers film or maybe those that were considered as villains at some point and will return to have a chance of redemption, such as:
Avengers - Loki
Avengers: Age of Ultron - Wanda
Avengers: Infinity War - Maybe Thor/Dr. Strange/ Captain Marvel (this part can be ambiguous)
Avengers: Endgame - Iron Man/ Thanos
Avengers: Doomsday - Dr. Doom/one of the Fantastic Four members
Avengers: Secret Wars - An X-Men character perhaps
I'm also hoping Adam Warlock will be given more importance to the MCU similar to how he was portrayed in the comics. Spiderman can also be one but I think he'll remain to be on the street level of MCU.
In the TVA there was a drawer full of infinity stones rendered useless in the TVA, I am sure Loki fill a pocket with infinity stones knowing that they could come in handy later.
I really like the concept! The trend could be Disney+ Series characters becoming these multiverse beings. I could see Moonknight becoming the embodiment of the Soul Stone.
I like the idea that the cosmic powers of the infinity stones are awakening inside individual characters. The stones can be destroyed, but their power is intertwined within the foundational building blocks of the universe.
That being said, half the characters you mentioned are already way more powerful than the stones and aren't really a great fit at all. Based upon who we currently have in the MCU and who we know is upcoming, my bet is:
Time = Loki;
Reality = Scarlet Witch
These two are already established and the obvious choice if they go this route.
Space = America Chavez
Soul = Adam Warlock
These are established characters that have already either exhibited powers similar to the stones and/or have story archs leading to a fulfilling conclusion if they became sentient stones.
Adam Warlock is heavily associated with the soul stone in the comics, his color fits, and he's on an arch centered around learning compassion, empathy, and what it means to 'have a soul.'
America literally has blue portal powers, and her arch is trying to develop those powers so she can find her moms. It makes sense within her arch to keep pushing her powers farther and farther until she achieves cosmic-level abilities.
Mind = Phoenix Force (through Jean Gray)
Jean Gray is a well-known but still upcoming character to the MCU. People are hype to see the X-Men join the MCU, and the Phoenix Force arch would help to push that hype and keep it going, especially if it was used to push Jean Gray to the group of sentient stones.
Power is oddly the hardest. It's the most basic of the stones and could really be embodied by numerous characters.
Captain Marvel is the most obvious so far; she's incredibly OP and has come so close to cosmic status already in the MCU that they had to vaguely side-line her in the first wave of the MCU until the final battle. But, I'm not sure they will want to use an existing, well-established character for this.
I've seen some people say Love from Thor: Love and Thunder. She could be an option - she is basically a new character to the MCU - but we don't really know enough about her to make any determinations on that front. She's a god-tier character shooting purple energy, and it'd be pretty fun to have a small girl be the embodiment of cosmic Power. That's about all I can say about her.
These two could work, but my best guess for Power is they would be a new character to the MCU, not yet shown but coming soon. They will need to slowly tease out these new sentient stone characters like they teased out the stones themselves. Having two firmly established characters gaining the powers before we even realized it was happening, two fairly well-established characters beginning to grow into the powers, and two new characters eventually embodying the powers helps draw the story out.
Also, I think this character will be both a hero and a villain. So far, almost all the characters I've mentioned have fulfilled both roles. Loki, Wanda, and Adam have all directly been heroes and villains. Jean Gray is typically a hero corrupted by the 'villianous' Pheonix Force. The only exception here is America, but she is pretty reckless and doesn't respond well to authority. I could see her going too far in trying to develop her powers to find her moms, temporarily becoming a villain in the process (similar to Wanda). I believe having characters balancing between villain and hero thematically fits the cosmic perspective that sentient stones would likely possess.
Additionally, each of these characters uses magic or magic-like abilities. This makes me lean towards magic-users for the power stone as well, though the more basic nature of the ability behind the power stone could make sense for a character that is just ridiculously strong.
Some contenders that could fit the bill:
Kang: Kang is an incredibly powerful character that wears purple and uses both magic-like abilities and is just incredibly strong. Admittedly, he isn't a new character, but Jonathan Majors is being replaced, so the new actor still somewhat fits that 'new character' vibe. He's also associated with Loki, which creates a similar parallel that exists between Wanda and America; former enemies that somewhat reconcile their differences before the end of their story (who knows; maybe Adam Warlock will meet the Phoenix Force in space as well).
Dr. Doom: Dr. D is a complex character that is typically portrayed as a villian, but (despite his prior on-screen portrayals) isn't a one-note villain and often teases the line of anti-hero who believes what he's doing is for the greater good. He's also an insanely powerful character and magic user. Finally, he's associated with the other major team that people are excited to see in the MCU, the Fantastic Four.
Purple Hulk: (I'll admit, this one is a huge stretch, and not at all likely, but it'd be amazing). Purple Hulk in the comics is a ridiculous character. Short-version: Norman Osborn (non-varient version not yet seen in the MCU) develops the ability to absorb and recreate any ability through touch. He basically gains the powers of all the Avengers, New Avengers, and Dark Avengers.
Osborn comes into power after the Secret Invasion degrades trust in institutions (recently seen in the MCU) which allows his organization to replace S.H.I.E.L.D. He develops the ability to steal powers and gains a lot of powers from his Dark Avengers. He turns into a Hulk after being attacked by the Red Hulk (soon to be shown in the Thunderbolts, a team which could feasibly take the place of the Dark Avengers in this story).
Long but definitely worth reading, your theory is pretty sound and solid. Now, the only one I have anything to say about is the power stone, I think it would make more sense to say that it’s greatly tied to Kamala AKA Ms. Marvel. I think it fits pretty well and checks most of the boxes. (Mind you, I haven’t watched the Marvels movie yet, so I don’t know how well the movie could support or dismantle my theory yet)
@fabiangallegovalencia1580 I loved Ms. Marvel (though I know a lot of people didn't). I did think about her, but I just don't know that she has exhibited enough raw power to fit the bill. I haven't seen the new Marvels movie, so maybe she powers up greatly, but I feel that the characters need to embody their cosmic powers, which is why they're chosen. I haven't seen that from Kamala Khan yet (but maybe she could get there, it's possible).
I think the current embodiments of the infinity stones are:
Loki - Time
Scarlet Witch - Reality
Heimdal - Soul
Captain Marvel - Space
White Vision - Mind
??? - Power
Power is the only question mark to me because no character was really affected by the stones in a way that their powers are tied to or derivative of one of the stones. I don't think its important that the exact stone gave them these powers either, just that they have a connection to the stones. Maybe Hulk in the MCU but it feels like a stretch. We'll see.
I think that the Native American character which will be introduced in what if season 2 will be the entity for the space stone as is visible from the trailer. Let’s wait and see about the other stones.
The Evil Doctor Strange/Strange Supreme from what if Season 1 could also potentially be a canidate for a diety. Maybe power, or possibly soul since his whole backstory was trying to reverse death. He is also one of the most powerful entities in the multiverse we have seen so far.
Watch S2 buddy
Change my mind.
Time Stone = Loki
Reality Stone = Wanda
Space Stone = America Chaves
Mind Stone = Jean Grey/Charles Xavier
Power Stone = Captain Marvel
Soul Stone = Ghost Rider
Power could be Love (Thor’s daughter in Thor 4, who was literally given power by Eternity)
Soul could be Adam Warlock (who is KNOWN for wielding an infinity stone in comics anyway, plus he started out as a soulless homunculus and later evolved to develop a conscience and compassion for the innocent)
Kahhori from 'What If...?' Season 2 could be viewed as a candidate for the Space Stone, or if not her, then she could be the actual person's avatar/herald.
I like this theory. Works really well
I do think if it’s true, Kahhori works really well for the space stone. She seemingly can create like millions of portals and control of any space around her
I see America Chavez instead of the watcher ascending to the god of space, the Watcher is just a Pariah. He can’t do anything he can only watch different stories play out
The big 3:
Reality: Wanda
Time: Loki
Space: Kahhori
That's a nice theory, Loki becoming a Nexus Being like Wanda.
Adam Warlock being reunited with the Soul Stone would be good as, he does have the Soul Stone in Marvel Comics.
As for Uatu.. Reed Richards and 'The One Above All'.. There are better candidates.
Power Stone: Franklin Richards as, Franklin literally has God like abilities and he is Immortal.
Space Stone: America Chavez can travel at will through the Multiverse and her abilities, have not been fully realised in Marvel Comics.
Mind Stone: Jean Grey is an Omega Level Mutant but, they just have to stop portraying Jean as, a 'Damsel in Distress'.
My favourite council is the one with all the Ricks.
Council of Reeds is better
@@carlosgarza400 Don't count out the Council of Kangs.
My thoughts on the remaining stones are :
- Space stone : Kahhori, we've never seen someone using those powers that well, it could be cool to have an original character ;
- Mind stone : Vision, his whole being was linked to the stone, I can't see anybody else ;
- Power stone : Thanos, not especially for the colour, but because it was his favorite stone, the one he used the most, and he embodies power ;
- Soul stone : Adam Warlock, he definitely needs a better MCU debut than what he was given, the child needs to grow.
The one above all is Kevin Feige can’t wait to see him cameo one day in his hat and blazer like it’s no big deal lol
Let's be honest this is too good a theory for any marvel writer to think of!!
with all these new marvel movies and crap lol
To add more fuel fto the conversation about the Watcher being the stone of space.
The intro of the What If season 2 is "Time, Space, Reality, not always on a linear path...".
The watcher is saying that, the 2 stones we have already seen and maybe the third??
I really miss more videos from The Marvelous Wave.
as soon as I saw that scene where she, ahem... politely asked the illuminati to get out of her way, it was very reminiscent of the scene of thanos using the reality stone for the first time. So thinking back to that scene alone this theory has some foundation
Love how people are taking my theory and making content out of it without crediting me for it.
Time Stone = Loki
- Represented as the keeper of time, gained authority over all timelines.
Reality Stone = Wanda
- Learned how to awaken her potential, granting her the ability to manipulate reality on a fundamentallevel.
Space Stone = Love
- Likely an aspect of Eternity, as she was resurrected as a cosmic being, gaining the abilities to project energy beams.
Mind Stone = ???
Power Stone = Galactus
- Being a malevolent being, Galactus represents a force of nature that is nearly impossible to negate nor avoid.
Soul Stone = ???
I realized maybe because of the destruction of the infinity stones the multiverse is trying to create a replacement of them but the difference is they have consciousnesses to protect themselves
I think for the Space stone it might be Kahorti. She has already brought down a multiversal threat (Dr. Strange) and her powers not only come directly from the space stone but also symbolize it in color and can teleport through all space, even to different timelines without much issue.
I think chavez fits the space stone the most. While others are able to move between branched timelines or dimensions, she actually moves across Multiverses and is the only one that exist in those
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of this concept. As soon as the infinity stones got destroyed I had this idea, although it was mostly based on the fact that energy can't be destroyed just change change form. Even if they destroyed the stones they're just a container for that energy.
Oatu already kind of has the powers of the Space stone. He can appear anywhere in the Multiverse instantly and can transport people to different points without effort
The Souls Stone being, whoever ends up there, could be the answer to everyone dying atm appearing in some form of Afterlife. Like Moon Knight Duat, Thor's Valhalla etc... The being is gathering dying souls from the multiverse maybe?
wouldn't it make more sense if "Kane the conqueror" would be the deity of the "power" stone?
I know the guy's appearence in the MCU has been abyssmal however, real world and fictional but
he literally conquered the multiverse and even bended it to a singular timeline. Essentially enforcing
his will on the multiverse like a North korean tyrant, he destroyed new reality branches just to prevent
other kanes from usurping him and likely did it to loki as well for he knew loki would eventually
rise to the same level of power he did.
I think the one above all would more likely be the "Boss" of the infinity deitys
I would've gone with America Chavez or Monica Rambeau for the Space Stone tbh.
Both would fit the pattern & have similarities to the Space Stone, i.e.:
- both have blue energy powers
- both have traveled the multiverse
- America can create portals thru the multiverse
- Monica closed a hole in space/ the multiverse, etc
As I remembered, the screenwriter announced their Scarlett Witch Death Sentence by the MOM ending she is not coming back to Marvel I'm sure.
Marvel Akatsuki: *It’s time to hunt all Infinity Stone Jinchuurikis.*
There are NOT multiple versions of the scarlet witch in the MCM. They literally stated that in MOM and Wandavision. There's only ONE of the Scarlet witch throughout the MCM
They should’ve gone with the Infinity Shard saga from Squad Show, that way they can finally not only reintroduce some of Marvels short lived heroes but introduce Reptil’ and the majority of the X-Men into the MCU.
Furthermore, Thanos should’ve been kept alive so Lady Death can also make an appearance.
I think Adam warlock is the mind/ soul stone, Loki as time, Wanda as the reality stone. The rest I'm still thinking.
I always like to think of Peter Parker as the Soul Stone. He is already a figure who often travels through dimensions with multiple powerful versions of himself. The root of every Spider-Man comes from not just his powers but his will and determination things that come from deep within the soul. Despite being the "Little Guy" he often stands up to those far more powerful than himself and interacts with entities like Madam Web on a regular basis.
The bangels from miss marvel and marvels are the power stone.
Mainlly because we saw that their main power is to increse the users power, they glow purple and were used to power the universal weapons with pretty much the same effect.
I like the idea of existing characters we've grown with, are the ones who ascend over time, rather than bringing in new randoms who become op in one movie
This is a more respectful endpoint for the Infinity Stones than the lazy "book-stop" joke.
I don't know about soul or mind, but rather than The One Above All being power, I think a more direct correlation to the destructiveness of the power stone would be Alioth, the purple cloud monster from Loki, as He Who Remains said Alioth was formed from the tears in multiversal reality (or something like that I think)
Wanda is literally the infinity gauntlet… she has all the powers of the stones 💀
scarlet witch : I can warp reality
Loki : *scoffs* I made you
I think the personification of the soul stone is being overlooked.
Two characters have interacted with the soul stone other than weilding it's power. Gamora and Black Widow. Both became a part of the soul stone. However, Black Widow was the only one who went willingly. She was also seemingly primed to become the embodiment of the soul stone as indicated by her ability to see people, even beyond their "worst". This eould definitely be a desirable trait in an embodiment of the soul stone. Even though she died, death is just a transition of the soul.
America Chavez for Space Stone
Doctor Strange for Soul Stone
Kamala Khan for Power Stone
Deadpool for Mind Stone
I based it from the color of their powers and Deadpool has the craziest mind!
The biggest issue I have with your theory is the known concept of Nexus Beings. Meaning there is only one of that being throughput all of the multiverse. Wanda has already been proven to be a Nexus Being, and with Loki being pruned as much as he has, it's likely that even with Silvi still alive, there is only one true Loki. So I would start looking closer at the remaining Nexis Beings as the embodiment of the remaining stones.
I agree with Loki (Time), Wanda (Reality), Reed (Mind), and Adam (Soul). Based off the movies I’d say that Monica Rambeau would make up the Space Stone because in the Marvels she traveled to another universe through space which now means she could figure out a way to travel through universes. And for the Power Stone I would say could be Love, the girl reborn from Eternity in Love and Thunder because she now possesses immense power and her eyes also glow purple.
This video just came up after watching episode 6 of What if...? introducing Kahhori who would be a candidate for the Space Stone, I think you're on to something!
Definitely agree with Loki as personified from time stone and Wanda/Scarlett Witvh from reality stone. I agree with alot of the comments on Chavez as space stone cause her powers jumping through space and multiverses. Adam warlock Definitely makes sense as the soul stone with that history in comics. Reeds as mind stone make sense but Jean Grey makes more sense being strongest telepath, need a mutant. Power stone is tough choice but im thinking photon.
I thought the infinitely stones didn't have multiversal power. That's why Ultron was so limited in his fight with the Watcher. As in limited to beam weapons and physical attacks.
Captain Marvel is probably the space stone entity. She was literally infused with the space stone's power.
I just saw the what if episode with Kahorri, literally gaining powers from the space stone.
Mind stone - tony stark
Time stone - loki
Space stone - amarica Chavez
Reality stone - Wanda
Power stone - quil
Soul stone - ?
Shit this could be the best way to do a trilogy of trilogies of cross-over stories. Introduction of Infinity Stones, Personification of the stones, ending of the saga.