It was the engine that was incredibly strong due to the fact Merc received the docs for engine regs back in 2007? (IIRC, could be wrong on the year #) and so they built an engine that was way ahead of anyone else on the grid. The car itself was average otherwise, just like they have been since 2022.
@@squirtle4519yes. Mercedes chose to pay Lewis instead of the absolute geniuses who designed the W11. No matter what you do in life, you will never make a decision that dumb 😮
Hey @formulaaddict ! Here's an idea for you and for us to keep enjoying you might do an animation of the car development trough the year I mean the outside changes, I'd love to actually see that animated. I know it's hard work but worth it Love your vids! Please keep it up...cheers!
pfff, this'll age like milk. . . it was 4 years ago. remember how much faster the braun was than everyone else in the turbo intro era before they then dropped it in regulation? Things only get better man, not worse, no regu.ations are going to get in the way of that
I would love to see a comparison between the VCARB01 and the RB20 to see how much a lower midfield car with the same engine and many shared components fairs against one of the most dominent cars ever. Great video!
@@stealthfreak2535 which makes this comparison more like click bait really since ALL the cars from that period would be faster than ALL the cars from this period.
@@angryboianimates4444 W11 was a dominant car as well,in spain(I think) Lewis lapped all the cars upto 3rd position,2nd was Max Verstappen and 3rd was Lewis's Teammate Valterri Botass
So accurate. I still remember when Hamilton literallly drove a lap and a half on 3 tires and still won with Verstappen barely making it close to him. Insane how far ahead always in those races. Even in 2022 the W13 when Verstappen barely won Ham was dominating that last race and it took a miracle and even then Max struggled to keep at bay a Ham on old hards while on brand new softs. That W11-W13 were nuts.
🔷pls make a new style animation that from top view perpective and the car is fixed to perspective. so, the only one is moving is the track🔷 i think its better shown in a vertical video
it's funny.. I had a debate with many people when 2022 cars were introduced and when I see lap times, I was claiming this car has a chance to close a gap with 2020 cars by the end of this regulations and everybody was saying I don't have a clue... I am sure if we only have one more extra year with this regulations that ground effect would match 2020 times.. It is crazy considering that cars are 50kg heavier and also if it wasn't for ride height nerf maybe even in 2025 we would see some records broken..
Track limits were not different. They punished everyone except Lewis then. I remember them giving lewis a warning at the end of the race wen there was like 10 laps left while giving everyone a warning within the 1st 20 laps
Even the 2020 Racing point is faster than the rb20, it is simply because the regulations of those cars already made them directly faster than the current ones.
Weight increase dont help i think they should scrap ground effect cars feels less driver focused and more of the car works with the right tyre temp window then perfect.
People arent even mentioning the fact that the Merc hit the track limits multiple times... that lap time wouldn't even be close to what it would get with todays rules. It would still beat the RB though, especially with DAS
We don’t give enough credit to the engineers that build these cars. Great drivers are not great without a great car underneath them to pilot. Put the best driver of their era in the worst car of their era and they wouldn’t be able to perform at such high levels. It’s a trade off between great talent and great machinery.
IMO, if the track / track limit rules were different then it's not a fair comparison. anyway W11 was a masterpiece, even Hamilton won with 3 wheel in the Silverstone
@@pyroxxxthis, Merc lost alot of their crew to red bull and aston martin, with others going to williams. they also stuck with the zero side pod for an extra year instead of abandoning it. If there wasn't a cap merc would have built a whole new car instead of driving franksteins monster and waiting an extra year to finish it.
What’s crazy is that they stop developing that car towards the beginning of the summer to work on the W12 …peddlers this is “bonkers “‘as Cameron f1 would say 😁
Yo ik it's a too much to ask but the movement of steering wheel like moving it left and right for respective turns would be amazing but apart from that amazing!!
I don´t think anything will beat the 2020 times so soon. Those cars were insane
Depends on the tracks. I think in 25 we might see one or two tracks where new records will be placed
doubtable teams stop developing their cars i 25 as they will prepare for the 26 era @@nikomoin7604
I think Austria and Silverstone might be possible, as might Belgium
and track limits weren't so strict
And actuall racing was not existing.
When you watch the W11 accelerate out of a corner, it's insane
What is W11
@@haekla4743 the 2020 mercedes f1 car
Damn I’m loving the side driver cams
The W11 was a perfect car, driven perfectly.
It wasnt a perfect car nor it was driven perfectly
You nasty, guy
It was the engine that was incredibly strong due to the fact Merc received the docs for engine regs back in 2007? (IIRC, could be wrong on the year #) and so they built an engine that was way ahead of anyone else on the grid. The car itself was average otherwise, just like they have been since 2022.
@@nastyguy3841It was near damn perfection tho
It was a product of outright cheating, driven by a driver who was only good cause of the car
Imagine if Saudi GP existed in 2020... would've been insane
The W12 wasn't that far away from W11 by the end of 2021
Dude all this time I was waiting for Max to catch up, but holt crap 2seconds is like a lifetime on this track
The visuals are amazing but next time could you zoom out when another car is out of frame cause its nice to the difference in their racing line
You would not appreciate it cause it's going to be very tiny cars
The engineers at merc would be so proud every time they look at these.
Half of their engineer is probably in RB and other team now.
@@Amin-dd9mk what!? that's why they are so bad now?
@@squirtle4519yes. Mercedes chose to pay Lewis instead of the absolute geniuses who designed the W11. No matter what you do in life, you will never make a decision that dumb 😮
@@quigglyz wdym they chose to pay Lewis? They have enough money to do both, and the driver's contract is not under cost cap.
If that were the case why merc keep losing podium to either Ferrari or red bulls cars?
I had a stroke reading the title of the video
The W11 is just the GOAT of F1 cars 🐐
F2004
you realise W11 was faster?@@dutchthespitfire3204
For the newbies, only (with less then 25/30 yrs around the sport)
#1 McLaren MP4/4
#2 Ferrari F2004
#3 Merc W11
@@3dmaniac119
Thank you! The things the Mercedes casuals say these days…
@@3dmaniac119he means the fastest ever f1 car
bro how do you make such good visualizations?!
Now I understand why Hamilton is so pissed
Hamilton just has a skill issue
damn man the driver who has a skill issue finished p3 in 23 standings
this is the kinda skill issues i want@@dutchthespitfire3204
@@dutchthespitfire3204don't trust a man with a drunk looking max verstappen as his pfp
Bro went from driving the best car in F1 to a black and silver wheelbarrow 😂😭
@@dutchthespitfire3204nah
We appreciate the hard work involved in bringing us such quality and informative videos. Thanks man.
the video quality, i love to watch these alot! seems the 20 car was pretty darn quick. you have the comparison aswell from lewis and max of '20?
Different regulations, completely different cars. Of course W11 is quicker. Even the alpha tauri of 2020 had quicker time than RB20
If and ever you have the time I'd love to see the 2020 RB vs the 2024. Great work man
Hey @formulaaddict ! Here's an idea for you and for us to keep enjoying you might do an animation of the car development trough the year I mean the outside changes, I'd love to actually see that animated. I know it's hard work but worth it
Love your vids! Please keep it up...cheers!
Nothing will ever come close to W11.
They said that about the F2004 as well lol
pfff, this'll age like milk. . . it was 4 years ago. remember how much faster the braun was than everyone else in the turbo intro era before they then dropped it in regulation?
Things only get better man, not worse, no regu.ations are going to get in the way of that
A machine so perfect, so powerful, so outrageously fast that not even the people that made it know how to make it again
Would love to see the 10th or 15th place cars of 2020 compared to 2024
Great Work man. Can I know how you obtain the telemetry data to make the visualizations
would love to see Suzuka pole 2023 vs Schumacher best lap of 1:28.9 in 2006 Q2.
The Mercedes W11 is basically a modern day Ferrari F2004. It was just that good and more importantly reliable too
I would love to see a comparison between the VCARB01 and the RB20 to see how much a lower midfield car with the same engine and many shared components fairs against one of the most dominent cars ever. Great video!
I feel honoured to have witnessed the W11 season
Cars have slowed down a lot.
alot alot or as alonso would say "gp2...gp2"
Previous Gen cars were all faster than current reg cars unfortunately and ground effect cars are also bigger
@@stealthfreak2535 which makes this comparison more like click bait really since ALL the cars from that period would be faster than ALL the cars from this period.
Didn’t the RB20 get the quickest qual time in Sydney? Not sure though
track limits also
Merc w11 is the best formula 1 car ever
still holding all the stop speed records, disgusting. and they try to argue that RB is a rocketship.
@@opupfgfastest car is different from the most dominant f1 car
@@angryboianimates4444 W11 was a dominant car as well,in spain(I think) Lewis lapped all the cars upto 3rd position,2nd was Max Verstappen and 3rd was Lewis's Teammate Valterri Botass
@@bewinwilsonmathews1892 that was it was only dominating on some track
RB is only dominant because of Max
Well done!
Good stuff
So accurate. I still remember when Hamilton literallly drove a lap and a half on 3 tires and still won with Verstappen barely making it close to him. Insane how far ahead always in those races. Even in 2022 the W13 when Verstappen barely won Ham was dominating that last race and it took a miracle and even then Max struggled to keep at bay a Ham on old hards while on brand new softs. That W11-W13 were nuts.
Wow think couple years ago the current reg cars were about 2.5 second off the w11. A .6 improvement is pretty good imo
head my is broken reading that title
Marking almost a second of distance in 1 corner is crazy
Wow this was almost like watching Abu Dhabi ‘21 but the saftey car didn’t come out
I knew it wouldn't be. These new regulations made the cars SLOW
F1 should hire you to do these
i wondering how do you know the racing line of the cars? soo perfect.. is that because you had the data?
The anti dive coming through on the RB
Thats straightline speed is fucking insane
okay Toto, bring it back right now😢
Imagine RB20 with smaller chassis and smaller tires WITH DIFFERENT TRACK LIMITS 💨💨
My heart rate when RB20 almost overtakes W11:📈📈📈
I remember they said that Williams was the fastest car around 2001 with a top speed between 350 to 380k/h , although Ferrari was the best winning car.
how where the track limits different? was the kerb considered, in for track limits?
So fast that you didn't had the time to read the video's title
they have different deiving style, hamilton likes understeer and verstappen like oversteering
The W11 was a monster. And the fact its still kinda still relevant today is amazing
The Regulation changes going into 2022 slowed down the cars by around 2+ seconds
It is not. Anyone with a bit of wheel knowledge would know that. These ground effect cars won't ever be as fast as for example the W11.
Even without track limits the 4 year old car is still head and shoulders ahead than the newer cars
not hard to know the reasons..
Is it just me or is the headline caption of the video very poorly worded?
5 years development vs 3 years.
The difference in driving, Max to optimize speed coming out of the corner, Lewis optimize traction coming out of the corner to profit from OP engin.
downforce levels in 2020 were insane, you can see how much faster the w11 was on the turns, just a beast of a car
Now do one with 2004 Ferrari Vs 2024 red bull
Hats off to mercedes engineer for creating such a powerfull engine. It is such technical wizardry which makes f1 interesting.
🔷pls make a new style animation that from top view perpective and the car is fixed to perspective. so, the only one is moving is the track🔷 i think its better shown in a vertical video
Everyone knows that 2022+ cars are slower than 2020-2021... What's new here?
The cars of 2024 have the same performance as 2021
it's funny.. I had a debate with many people when 2022 cars were introduced and when I see lap times, I was claiming this car has a chance to close a gap with 2020 cars by the end of this regulations and everybody was saying I don't have a clue... I am sure if we only have one more extra year with this regulations that ground effect would match 2020 times.. It is crazy considering that cars are 50kg heavier and also if it wasn't for ride height nerf maybe even in 2025 we would see some records broken..
Track limit rules weren't "different", they were ignored when the Race Director wanted to ignore them, and enforced when he wanted to.enforce them.
W11 could solo every grid in 2024
if max drove that w11 it would be 1 second faster than lewis records
Track limits were not different. They punished everyone except Lewis then. I remember them giving lewis a warning at the end of the race wen there was like 10 laps left while giving everyone a warning within the 1st 20 laps
Even the 2020 Racing point is faster than the rb20, it is simply because the regulations of those cars already made them directly faster than the current ones.
The stricter rules of track limits has slowed down the car
Weight increase dont help i think they should scrap ground effect cars feels less driver focused and more of the car works with the right tyre temp window then perfect.
2026 is the season for you then
If they hadn’t changed the regs the racing would probably be better, at least at the front lol.
People arent even mentioning the fact that the Merc hit the track limits multiple times... that lap time wouldn't even be close to what it would get with todays rules. It would still beat the RB though, especially with DAS
DIFERENÇA DE PESO DOS CARROS É GRITSNTE
W11 is unbeatable ❤
We don’t give enough credit to the engineers that build these cars. Great drivers are not great without a great car underneath them to pilot. Put the best driver of their era in the worst car of their era and they wouldn’t be able to perform at such high levels. It’s a trade off between great talent and great machinery.
People complain about their cars burning oil, look what an engine burning oil can do 😂
I wonder if the cars of the next year will beat the W11
Its a RB-8, not a RB-20
What about the other tace tracks? 🤔
bahrain is the only track that both the 2020 and 2024 F1 has raced in.
W11 is the best F1 car since Hybrid era.
But as new reg. RB20 should destroyed old reg. on the straight speed.
What if W12 wasn't restricted? How fast would it be?
Only if you take the tires out of the equation like you have done
Ain't no way, until Spa.
then we're gonna see who is what
we all knew the answer.
W11 can't be matched with any other for many more years to come
IMO, if the track / track limit rules were different then it's not a fair comparison.
anyway W11 was a masterpiece, even Hamilton won with 3 wheel in the Silverstone
semua punya masanya😇
What is the difference in weight?
50kg
Whats the difference between now and then? Engine? If yes, whats the difference.
...and the RB16 from 2020 was only 0.4 slower in Q3, so basically RB20 doesn't stand a chance compared to his grandpa... Those cars were really fast!
W11 is on rails!
anyone knows the name of the song?
Sound Mind · Matt Large
Can someone explain what happened?
We also have to consider that Mercedes was already well developed (third-to-last race), whilst Red Bull is effectively a base spec car.
I think if the 2024 cars had the same spicey fuel settings it would be pretty close
No it wouldn’t lol
This might be a silly question but, why Mercedes doesn't go back to its old concepts? It's a regulations thing?
How can the company that designed this beast in 2020 now make tractors each year?
cost cap
Different rules, different staff and less budget.
Different rule bud
@@pyroxxxthis, Merc lost alot of their crew to red bull and aston martin, with others going to williams.
they also stuck with the zero side pod for an extra year instead of abandoning it.
If there wasn't a cap merc would have built a whole new car instead of driving franksteins monster and waiting an extra year to finish it.
Post Saint George Floyd Effect.
I wonder how much faster the best driver in the best car would be 😅
Faz com a melhor Ferrari que Michael Shumacher dirigiu
The F2004 with slicks would easily destroy both
What’s crazy is that they stop developing that car towards the beginning of the summer to work on the W12 …peddlers this is “bonkers “‘as Cameron f1 would say 😁
the car isn't but it's driver is
Yo ik it's a too much to ask but the movement of steering wheel like moving it left and right for respective turns would be amazing but apart from that amazing!!
we will never know about lewis putting the w11 to full capacity
Gonna have to do it again after monza 2024