Why are people so indifferent? (And what to do about it)

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  • @trollsneedhugs
    @trollsneedhugs Рік тому +5

    I get so excited when I find someone who says they want to know something, but blindsided when inevitably that was just them lying to be polite.

    • @FatherJohnny-oh4dh
      @FatherJohnny-oh4dh 4 місяці тому

      You should feel honored if they lied. At times they want information in order to misuse it to their advantage.

  • @mrmarten9385
    @mrmarten9385 3 роки тому +15

    Yes, exactly. Sadly from personal experience(s) I've noticed that people often care way too much about trivialities. Such things become problematic if it interferes with people's lives. It could leave them even somewhat paranoid if it would happen enough/too much. Living life would become a lot easier if one was a bit more indifferent, especially if it is deemed weird. ' Weird' people seem to care less about the trivial stuff society in general seems to care about. You seem to care about the right things. Right in the sense that you aren't messing with people and right in the sense that it is productive. So keep up the great videos.

  • @icephoenix1024
    @icephoenix1024 3 роки тому +12

    Even psychologist can be indifferent...

  • @ricard3135
    @ricard3135 3 роки тому +11

    Tremendous video as usual. I always try to make the most of people's insensibility and stupidity. Basically it's about forgetting about one's own ego.

  • @anthonylezama1645
    @anthonylezama1645 3 роки тому +7

    I agree, its futile to expect things from others, you'll just end up hurting yourself. When you approach people from a state of indifference, you give yourself the opportunity to be surprised (for better or worse). Realizing how important it is to maintain ones integrity can keep us from losing ourselves while we change through life. Very insightful video as always, i wish i could have talks like this with my loved ones, but it really is such a hard thing to explain at times. Its like two people who are painting with different color palettes, you can describe lights and darks, shades and hues, but if the person isnt working with the same set of colors as you, they cant fully understand the kind of picture you are trying to paint. The more i think about it, this might be a flawed analogy 😅(so i won't lmao) . But thank you man, sincerely

  • @Life_42
    @Life_42 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you very much for the advice. I will stop expecting many behaviors from people.

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +9

      It will bring a lot of peace to your life, and you'll become a lot more efficient in what you do.

  • @SyeedAli
    @SyeedAli 3 роки тому +6

    The "indifference" you speak of can be understood better by also thinking about "intellectual frugality".

  • @kawaii_princess_castle
    @kawaii_princess_castle 3 роки тому +7

    This is super true as well! I never will be able to understand why society is so indiferent and cruel with people in disadvantage circunstances, they act like bullies!!

    • @FatherJohnny-oh4dh
      @FatherJohnny-oh4dh 4 місяці тому

      I thought they acted like that in general, not simply towards those with disadvantages. They probably can't relate themselves to yourself.

    • @VALiantiosous
      @VALiantiosous Місяць тому

      @@FatherJohnny-oh4dh Its easier to bully the weak. They make the best scapegoat as they cannot retaliate. They bully due to the trauma of growing up in a cruel, indifferent world.

  • @ph1265
    @ph1265 3 роки тому +1

    bro this is next level observation, thank you for pinpointing something so hidden yet influential and articulating it

  • @AceOfFates
    @AceOfFates 3 роки тому +3

    What I do not like is when the indifference (continually) affects my livelihood. I also strongly recognize what you say about things being okay just so long as it does not cause them problems. It becomes quite frustrating, still, to interact with or find appropriate work that does not get met with both indifference & create problems or inconvenience for others.

  • @Pandora234able
    @Pandora234able 2 роки тому +7

    It almost reminds me of stoicism. Ive gotten to a point in life with much personal strife that having zero expectations is the best way. I want to give the benefit of the doubt but I’m not going to be shocked anymore at the idiosyncrasies of most humans.
    I should not be and I’m not the epithet of human existence so why, as you said, should I expect carbon copies of myself. I think this is freeing. Especially for those of us who are an outlier.

    • @timefortee
      @timefortee Рік тому

      YES, I have come to a very similar realisation and change in mindset recently, as well. Learning about neurotypicals helped immensely.

    • @evelynecrahay8229
      @evelynecrahay8229 10 місяців тому

      Bonjour, ne suis pas ok avec vous lorsque vous dites que ce n' est ni mauvais ni bon que les nt soient "réduits " à peu d'empathie, réduits à l'indifférence. Le constat est juste. Néanmoins il est intolérable et même plus, de chaque fois aller dans le mur par leurs faits, leurs fautes.
      Si vous regardez plus en " méta ", il ne s'agit pas juste de choisir un métier ou on est pas sur le même point de vue ou juste avoir des points de vue " divergeants " (😅).
      En mon quotidien, je ne cesse de pâtir des comportements des nt.
      Parce que je vis en van ( à la recherche depuis des années pour mettre un habitat léger sur un terrain isolé ( ultra grandes hyperesthesies).
      En mon pays le van n' est TOUJOURS pas bien vu au niveau des représentations.
      Résultat, ces punaises de nt viennent faire chier quasi quotidiennement, à me demander des comptes, à vouloir me raconter leurs soi- disants- " soucis" ( il semble qu' ils sentent surtout ma gentillesse et peuvent venir " déposer " des choses - puisque les autres sont....... justement indifférents😢. Ça vous prend une énergie de dingue.
      Maigre que j'ai fait le gros travail d'être plus franche, plus assertive..... ça ne marche qu' un tout petit peu. Et pour les plus encul.s, ils repartent frustrés . Et vous envoient les " forces du dés- ordres"😢.
      Parce que oui, une femme est censée la fermer et être toujours heureuse qu' on vienne pour la faire ch.....ier.
      Donc, permettez de dire que votre analyse est courte.
      Le premier niveau de conscientisation de ça.
      Il est vrai que c' est un cap difficile à passer ( j' ai mis des années avant de le " comprendre").
      Mais si, les nt posent des problèmes majeurs.
      Alors, que vous soyez un homme, bon, c' est déjà un avantage ( vous n' en pouvez rien, c' est vrai, néanmoins élargissez votre horizon svp. Les nanas ont de multiples peines en plus de vous - codes culturels biaisés.
      À un moment, ce serait bien de regarder plus loin que ça.
      Dire que le problème est que l'appréciation est incorrecte....bravo......
      Mais ce sont les conséquences de leurs merdiques comportements qui influent sur votre vie qui posent problème.
      Alors, si vous vivez en une grotte n'aimez pas ou n'avez point besoin de trop de lien social ( moi je les subis, et le fait de ne pas trouver un terrain n' est pas un choix de ma part, le fait de survivre au quotidien ( importante organisation pour savoir quand, comment, où, jusqu'à quelle heure potentiellement il y aura de la tranquillité...eetc), et que le seul " souci " est de prendre conscience qu'il faut apprendre à changer de perspective.....
      Rien que ce dernier point, pour moi , c'est bien déjà la merd..... et en plus je me coltine le reste.
      Ce que j'essaye de transmettre, ce n' est nnon pas le fait que vous parliez d' une info importante, mais plutôt que vous minimisiez beaucoup d'éléments autres en la dynamique sociale.....
      L'anglais n' est vraiment pas ma première langue, donc il est possible d'envisager que votre discours soit déformé pour la compréhension.
      Parce que , autrement ,et sachez que, vraiment vraiment, je vous trouvais " suffisant"😊.
      Je me doute que ce n' est évidemment pas du tout , ddu tout un but en soi.et je ne souhaite pas vous heurter....
      Plutôt désespérée de voir que les neurodivergeants que connais sont " tous" introvertis ou mieux dans leur grotte.... et sue je ne croise pas un peu plus aussi des neurodivergeants plus " siciables ", " extravertis " - également , ai un côté introvert très très poussé aussi - qui ont une autre visibilité sur le monde, une autre analyse que , juste, " intellectuelle".
      Il manque la sociologique, l'émotionnelle, et des pistes de solutions....
      Un toute toute petite dernière chose : j' ai pu " observer" que les hommes ont moins de difficulté à considérer la perspective dont vous faites montre ( construction de l'égo différente, codes culturels !?) Souvent et que les femmes souffrent " plus" - en en discutant avec des hommes et des femmes , bien sûr ) - de ne pas pouvoir créer plus de liens "authentiques ".
      Bonne journée 😊
      Alo

  • @VALiantiosous
    @VALiantiosous Місяць тому +1

    If everyone was not indifferent, there would be no need for "pushing" you. Our world would be a fair, just, sane, nurturing environment with healthy, humane policies in place. There would be very minimal problems for people to be in your business about. People would be busy creating, loving, learning, experiencing to be in your business. None of us are free in this indifferent, cold, inhumane world. In fact the majority are enslaved and starving.

  • @ntlwilson0
    @ntlwilson0 Рік тому +1

    Thanks Abel. Big fan of autonomy. Have watched your videos before, but needed reminding, and actually just needed some like-mindedness in my evening. Thank-you.

  • @marianbundel1229
    @marianbundel1229 5 місяців тому

    Could somehow understand what your motivation/idea with that talk was, but my favorite in that starts at 8:53, very simple, nearly "obious" analogy, yet so easy, that it is great again. I love understanding in pictures.

  • @redtree732
    @redtree732 3 місяці тому

    This video is like a revelation. Bravo.

  • @veggiesnchill8134
    @veggiesnchill8134 3 роки тому +6

    I want to enact social change and that involves garnering support from the collective. It feels like you're taking the stance of confronting indifference with more indifference about their indifference and while that is tempting and advantageous, it seems less than compassionate for folks who are disadvantaged and not afforded this privilege.

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thanks for commenting. What privilege are you referring to exactly?

    • @evelynecrahay8229
      @evelynecrahay8229 10 місяців тому

      Merci à vous. J'ai posté moi aussi un commentaire sur le sujet😊

  • @joe-hanhairy3882
    @joe-hanhairy3882 3 роки тому +4

    @Abel abelson, the NT-language is 90% non-verbal ? ,[with lots of ''brackets aka. hidden/double meanings]

  • @lordsofpondland
    @lordsofpondland 5 місяців тому

    I appreciate the insights. I just bought your book. I do find that accepting that most people are indifferent is extremely painful. It’s something I have felt anguish over my life and have not been able to fully accept it as truth. It is a heavy burden to bear thinking it is my mantle to get people to care about important things. It’s hard to comprehend that people, in fact, do not care and there is a part of me that cannot fully accept that as of yet. Any advice on how to accept that people don’t care but still push forward to trying to make the world a better place?

  • @thndesmondsaid
    @thndesmondsaid 3 роки тому +2

    Wow the later idea about how indifference is a good thing is a great insight, thanks!

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому

      You're welcome, glad I could be of help🙂

  • @projectoldman3383
    @projectoldman3383 Рік тому

    Thanks very much for your contributions, I appreciate your points of view.

  • @booksdeclamation7249
    @booksdeclamation7249 Рік тому

    I think this is a good insight. It’s really frustrating that most people won’t change their minds about anything. For me, it is jarring to understand that most people are genuinely indifferent to the suffering of animals, for instance. It makes me feel like there’s an invisible wall between me and even my best friends. How do you deal with this?

  • @minaharker6641
    @minaharker6641 3 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed this video. 💖

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +1

      I'm glad you did, thanks for letting me know 👍

  • @Gandalf_the_quantum_G
    @Gandalf_the_quantum_G Рік тому +2

    This is a very limited perspective on that issue.
    You assume that if people would not be indifferent, they'd be trying to change your intentions.
    This is not logical. If people would not be indifferent, then everyone would be understanding what happens within the other person. Thereby nobody would try to change any behaviour or intentions. Thereby the understanding would be given to actually understand why the other person is doing it thinking the way she/he is thinking. This then would be able to cause what you call freedom.
    But think of it more deeply.
    If I'm aware of another person, I need to not only be aware of the person, but I also need to be aware of my thinking - and able to absorb it. Otherwise the person would appear to us like an optical illusion, unreal. Like when we sometimes think we see something but it was just a change in the eye pressure, resulting in a point you may see somewhere in your vision. You're aware of it - but your thinking was not focused on it. Resulting in the question: what was that? Was there an insect flying around?
    So, why do we ask ourself even this question? Because we, whatever we are, relate to our environment, but also the other way round. We relate the environment to us.
    Here it becomes interesting. Regarding to developmental psychology the creation and forming of a sense of self is taking place really early in life. If this process is distorted by e.g. a "dead" mother (Winnicot) the building self can be so overwhelmed that it creates a fake friend, a fantasy "god" friend, which then sacrifices the real self - that is the origin of pathological narcissism. These people do not have the capability to reference back to an intact "self" since they only can refer back to a god-self, which they have a knowing about, is not their real self while being unable to restore that true self.
    If that reference point is not given or appears like a god within one's experience, it is quite difficult to not be indifferent as long the other person does not provide the wrong self with life-force, what Freud called libido - since the god-self is aware, but not mentally able to focus on it, of it being not god simply because one is not able to move a mountain. This then creates the "experience dissonance" - not a cognitive dissonance, since they experience their missing reference point in that way like when someone asks you to proof that something does not exist - it is impossible in a free setting. That then may create the feeling of being not alive while they're are alive. So, they have a sensational deficit, actually an experience deficit, which they try to balance due to others, mostly very vivid or "alive" persons. Usually their children. They can't defend themselves. But if they're neurodivergent chances on an anecdotical level I assume are higher.
    This would fall into the "cause a problem" segment you mention. I assume you mean therewith that one causes a problem as soon one is behaving authentic - since that always triggers the false-self because it can't be that way. It is stuck at a level in child developmental states.
    This is what I consider to be the meaning behind of what you talk about.
    I just came on it since the assumption one wanted to change others when being aware of their patterns and problems would be set standard. This is not a must, it may even lead to exactly that what these false-selfes want. Life-force. Attention.
    If everyone would be empathic and had a reference point within oneself, this would mean that people would reciprocally do good to each other.
    Feel free to discuss with me.
    I'd be interested on other hypothesis and generelly what others do think in this regards.
    Thanks :) and have a good time.

    • @FatherJohnny-oh4dh
      @FatherJohnny-oh4dh 4 місяці тому +1

      Can't argue with what you said, nor can I add to it.

    • @Gandalf_the_quantum_G
      @Gandalf_the_quantum_G 4 місяці тому +1

      @@FatherJohnny-oh4dh FatherJohnny, I must express my heartfelt gratitude to you for this nuanced and accurate statement, with all due respect for you as a clergyman. Yours sincerely, Gandalf.

  • @goatnoises1657
    @goatnoises1657 3 роки тому +2

    Abel your voice and content is very insightful. It would fit to make podcast. Maybe also gives a space to go deep. I like to listen to your content while I do everyday tasks like cooking.

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому

      That's fabulous, thank you! On what kind of platform or site do you listen to podcasts?

    • @goatnoises1657
      @goatnoises1657 3 роки тому

      I myself just use UA-cam platform, but there is also other platforms such as bodbean, Spotify. ect. :)

  • @MikiMaki76
    @MikiMaki76 3 роки тому +3

    I wish most people were indifferent.. too bad they are not. they are indifferent when they feel is in their best interest (ex when someone is in need of help), but they meddle in other peoples affair, gossip and use others for their own ends, when they are in need of help, or they simply want other people to be as miserable as they are

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +2

      I'd call meddling and gossiping indifferent, inasmuch as it's indifferent to whom you really are and what you feel. It's an unfortunate case of getting caught in their machinations. Which is why you have to be always ready to fight, cfr. my other video on that...

    • @MikiMaki76
      @MikiMaki76 3 роки тому +3

      ​@@Abel.Abelson yes well it's a matter of definition. when I am indifferent to others, I follow the motto "live and let live" and "mind your own business", and I expect the same from others. if they don't follow the above rules, I consider them to be not indifferent to me.

  • @physics_lover100
    @physics_lover100 7 місяців тому

    What is your main field of interests??

  • @BGomez-tk7lu
    @BGomez-tk7lu 3 роки тому +2

    Ahh I'm so grateful to the world for it's indifference

  • @tacticalsnail3174
    @tacticalsnail3174 3 роки тому +3

    I wished we were friends. :/

  • @rohankale1000
    @rohankale1000 3 роки тому +2

    I subscribed to your wife's channel and read her bio in her blog. It seems that you were environmentalist for a time, I think that is why you are a little bit frustrated by the behavior of neurotypicals. But when you are in the environmental movement, you are against vested interests that wont give that easily. Your wife has a video on horizontal humans, and the vested interests are hierarchical vertical humans.

    • @flavioluismachado5825
      @flavioluismachado5825 3 роки тому

      Abel's wife has a channel? Please tell me the link!

    • @rohankale1000
      @rohankale1000 3 роки тому +1

      @@flavioluismachado5825 ua-cam.com/channels/oC_82TEPYlFF7NHxd2-bIA.html
      Yurira Harris that is the channel.

  • @DarwinianUniversal
    @DarwinianUniversal Рік тому +1

    Faulty expectations. Yep, Disney lied to us!!!! ;)

  • @gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222
    @gontlemanggeneral-segolodi5222 3 роки тому +2

    Ha ha, before you mentioned the spotify example, I was about to click off this vid in a few seconds.

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +1

      How indifferent of you 😉😄😄

  • @arm4ix
    @arm4ix 3 роки тому +2

    So the cure to the problem of indifference is more indifference?

    • @oscarl.3563
      @oscarl.3563 3 роки тому +4

      Expect anything from people and you'll be disappointed. A better word for the "cure" might be acceptance. You get what you get, trying to change people brings all sorts of suffering.

    • @arm4ix
      @arm4ix 3 роки тому

      @@oscarl.3563 That didn't end suffering, but just became ignorant to it

    • @oscarl.3563
      @oscarl.3563 3 роки тому

      @@arm4ix Maybe you misunderstood me. Desiring change is to suffer how things are, and losing your contentment to a mental vision of how things could or should be, while not trying to change things is to be content. Thus give up trying to change things. Or give up on the mind if you prefer because it will make you miserable.

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому

      Very well put, Oscar L.

    • @arm4ix
      @arm4ix 3 роки тому +1

      @@oscarl.3563 i didn't misunderstand u. Willingness to suffer in friction in order to change the indifference of people in this world to make it a better place is what makes u different.

  • @robertburatt5981
    @robertburatt5981 Рік тому

    Indifference to matters of publuc urgency is morally depraved or a condition of a moral idiocy!
    Global climate warming, threat of nuclear War, emergence of fascism and totalitarianism are all urgent public matters that are far beyond mere "voting".

    • @daemonspring
      @daemonspring 4 місяці тому

      What should I do about these issues?

    • @robertburatt5981
      @robertburatt5981 4 місяці тому

      @@daemonspring
      Develop a vision of society that is far better by creating an ideal and how that ideal can be realized.

  • @paulojrmsantos8
    @paulojrmsantos8 Рік тому

    That being said, are you vegan? Meaning, how does the suffering of animals and of the planet affect you?

  • @jonathencobber7101
    @jonathencobber7101 3 роки тому +2

    @AA, are nt's sociopaths ?

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +1

      Well, sociopathy is a continuous scale, and "everybody" (read: NT's) is somewhere on the scale, above zero. Not to a degree that's officially recognised as "sociopath", but not zero either...

    • @FatherJohnny-oh4dh
      @FatherJohnny-oh4dh 4 місяці тому

      Both sides can have that aspect. The degree varies, and I will personally say yes

  • @nicholasburch2122
    @nicholasburch2122 Рік тому

    I wonder what personal experiences informed this one

  • @minaharker6641
    @minaharker6641 3 роки тому +3

    Hello Abel, can you speak about positive desintegration in one of your videos please ✨

    • @timefortee
      @timefortee 3 роки тому +1

      That would be great!

    • @Abel.Abelson
      @Abel.Abelson  3 роки тому +1

      Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I'm not an expert on the subject however, and I think it's better that everyone talks about what they have personal experience or a certain level of understanding or expertise in, so I'm afraid I'm not really qualified and would better leave this to someone more knowledgeable or with more experience on the subject...

    • @minaharker6641
      @minaharker6641 3 роки тому

      @@Abel.Abelson that's ok, thank for answering. 💖

  • @999cathou
    @999cathou 8 місяців тому +1

    nobody cares because of cellular phones. :.))

  • @thndesmondsaid
    @thndesmondsaid 3 роки тому

    ❤️

  • @ngarumurray
    @ngarumurray 2 роки тому +1

    I really have mixed feelings about IQ discourse because some people bring race to it

    • @evelynecrahay8229
      @evelynecrahay8229 10 місяців тому

      Mec tu es hors sujet

    • @FatherJohnny-oh4dh
      @FatherJohnny-oh4dh 4 місяці тому

      It takes a certain level of understanding (knowledge) to ace an IQ test. Does it then say people were able to learn to be intelligent? While intelligence does differ between people, or perhaps the desire and capacity to learn.

  • @alistairreed3514
    @alistairreed3514 2 роки тому

    Dr Evil God a packet of crisps that invariably asks questions wattis what? private behind peoples backs. a private joke. coffee. m25 isn't a pretty drive. the speakers an old pub, the tables, a pint, well a pint's a pint. Alex bellfield voice of reason. the feedback I got. Helen Dibble. These words are my own song 2005