Thank you all so much for watching, i appreciate it! For anyone wanting to see bands from the 90s, this is the first video I made like this, covering that era. Bands like Rancid, Casualties, and Oxymoron are featured in it. ua-cam.com/video/Lu9WoKdHWQk/v-deo.html
'Street Punk' aint GBH or Exploited or Uk Subs or anything like Crust bands- Street Punk is English Oi! music - Slaughter and The Dogs ,Sham69 ,Cockney Rejects, Angelic Upstarts, The Last Resort ,4Skins , The Business , Cock Sparrer, Criminal Class .....
@@niceguy1774 Oi is Street Punk in reality. Non of those bands of the time liked the moniker which was basically coined by Gary Bushell when he worked for Sounds having to give the movement a name so he could write about it. There was this thing going around London at the time among the Working Class when talking to each other saying "Oi, Over Here Mate"! & stuff like "Oi Oi Saveloy" which still gets used by some people of the older generation. I guess the likes of Bushell cottoned on to what the youth were saying and used the name that stuck with the movement. After the Southall Riots in 1981 most bands didn't want to be associated with the name Oi anymore because it was being linked with the far right becoming more of a Skin Head thing after those events. Combat 84 done a lot of damage to the image of street punk after the 1982 Arena documentary where they espoused racist views which forever tarnished all Skins as being the same! Combat 84 were a Middle Class band who had previously had nothing to do with the movement before them coming a bit later on, they done a hell of a lot of damage to the reputation of Punk and Skin Heads of the time.
I really enjoyed this man, thank you. Rest In Peace Mickey Fitz! My most worn shirt in the 90’s was the Guinness logo as The Business that said Loud Proud and Punk, wish I still had it.
You answered your own question! The police were pub rock, music you could hear on a jukebox in a pub while the subs played on your record player at home.
Bands like Discharge, the Varukers, Charged GBH, the Exploited, Anti-Nowhere League were more part of another scene which went under the banner of UK 82. That scene came chiefly out of the Midlands in England which was a lot faster than normal Punk ending up becoming Thrash Metal by fans of the bands in the States. The D Blast drumming patterns being adopted by these bands through lack of technical efficiency also ended up being adopted by the likes of Metallica, Exodus, Slayer etc
Sure, they're all considered street punk bands though. Discharge is more crossover street punk and D-Beat, but the other bands obviously dip into other genres a little, too, but they're for sure street punk. It's a muddy water, though
@@thepunkrockreview I don't know about that because Street Punk is more the "Herbert" thing. Street Punk is more in line with the casual and football hooligan thing in terms of dress. Harrington's, Flight Jackets, Lonsdale T Shirts, Everlast, Levis jeans, trainers, boots etc Pretty much the way bands like Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer looked like. You would never see the likes of Mensi, Jeff Turner with Mohawks or anything like that back in the day. That is the whole point of street punk is the fact these Working Class kids were street level characters you would see around your neighbourhood. You would also see these UK 82 types around going to the same gigs as the Herbert's although I class them as something different.
Great video! Basque Country street punk is for me the best thing nowadays you can hear related to all this and collecting all this legacy... I tell you bro, check it out there are many bands that will blow your mind 🤯
Really enjoyed this,one gig you mentioned in particular i recall very well was the Carlisle Punk Festival back in 1984 with the Exploited,GBH,Toy Dolls,Chelsea etc..great gig,great memories..long live punk rock!!
New to this channel. Good job on this video. Doing any sort of punk documentary is a damned if you do,damned if you dont kinda thing. Punks,for all their assertions of unity and family,are just as fickle and judgmental as pop fans. You can never please everyone. I'm an old geezer and dug this quite a bit.Keep them coming. Cheers.
@@thepunkrockreview already did it after watching! And i totally support and think it's very fair you making this a full time job. I'm 'messing' with bands that i like trying to not step in your way, my dude (rancid is the exception, but i can't hold myself and you sure understand). PS - waiting for a Rev. Horton Heat vídeo so i don't have to do it with borat narration 😸😸
Man I appreciate that a lot! I'm absolutely working towards making this a full time thing. I want to document and entertain. I want this to be a destination spot for bands and such
Difference between pub and punk rock, aggression, pub rock included stuff like elvis costello pub rock was like the garage rock movement in the UK guys having a go at being the kinks or the small faces rehearsing at home and later playing in pubs. Punk rock took it that stage further with speed etc.
Another solid video, hell yea. Would be cool if you dove into how street punk continued on in the 2000s and 2010s. East LA was and still is a hot spot for it
Two of the most real bands you had from that era who actually lived what they said were the Angelic Upstarts & Cockney Rejects. Both had the violence and political strife of the time following them around coupled with football hooliganism, organized crime, etc Brothers Jeff Turner & Micky Geggus were both good boxers who could handle themselves and Mensi R.I.P was a proper hard case who was involved with football thing with Sunderland. Both bands were involved in some of the most notorious incidents of that era that led to mass brawls, attempted murders, arson, gun violence due to disputes with underworld figures etc etc etc
There were a few places down here that had that problem, lol. I may do a video on that down the line, I need to start compiling info on a number of videos and get to work! I have so many things I want to cover!
Oh man, this genre, probably my favourite genre. So many good bands. And at the moment there are so many new and good bands here in Europe. Bands like Claimed Choice, The Young Ones, Rotten XIII, Kaleko Urdangak and so many more are just fucking amazing. Had the pleasure to share the stage with a few of them with my my band (The Reapers) and i was and am blown away every time. Check those European bands out!
Yeah I've heard a few of those bands, but I'll check out the others. I love what's going on in France right now, SO MUCH GOOD darkwave Oi! coming from that part of the world
FYI the violent disorder record I was telling you about "Skinhead worldwide", its out Friday. What I found interesting is the connection in respect of the business and argy bargy have the rhythm section of ray and nic of London beatdown hardcore crew knuckledust, which is probably why both bands were tight as in their latter years as those guys have been playing together for over 30 years in bands that are more technical etc than their street punk output.
Thanks homie, I appreciate it! This one took FOREVER! But im.lretty happy with it. Got a few bands I'd like to talk about still, so there's likely a 2nd installment of this one coming
Pub Rock was largely older bands prior to Punk influenced by Beat, Glam and R&B. Strang,ers, Vibrators, Cock Sparrer and others had their roots in pub Rock but changed to more Punk under influence of Bands like the sex Pistols.Stranglers always were more a garage version of the doors though early on. I thought Streetpunk was something of an early in-scene term. There were bands who were more Art-Punk and more Powerpop and some who were more working class, streetlevel, direct and Streetpunk was an early name for that. Cock Sparrer, Menace, Angelic Upstarts, Chelsea, Sham 69, slaughter and the dogs, the Ruts, the skids, maybe even UK subs, Lurkers. In the beginning maybe early Exploited, Discharge, Vice Squad , the Violators, and the Business were lumped in with them together, Addicts and Peter and the test-tube babies certainly were. But largely it all became Oi! Which at the beginning was a more broad term und didn't beco e synonymous with Skinhead bands until somewhat later. But few early fanzi es used "Streetpunk" and i wasn't there so i cannot say how far spread and accepted it really was. However it was very different from the later UK82 Hardcore Punk which was more motorhead inspired.
Again i forgot Anti-nowhere league and Chron Gen. Musically and scenewise they certainly were the right direction, but they probably were pretty much their own thing.
Thank you! I'm sure it's not perfect, but I worked hard on it. Gonna have to make a 2nd part I'm sure. I know I'd like to include Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, and Warzone in another installment
I'd like to see a long video like that on the bands on Crass Records (Crass, The Cravats, Flux of Pink Indians,Zounds, Dirt, Annie Anxiety, Poisson Girls, Rudimentary Peni, Honey Bane, Mob, Etc.) and the adjacent scene (Conflict, MDC, The Subhumans, Amebix, Disrupt, Nausea, Schwartzeneggar Chumbawamba (they should get their own video), Oi Polloi, Abrasive Wheels, Etc.) Band like Dead Kennedys, The Smarties, BuNaked Agression, D.O.A., Youth Brigade, Reagan Youth, Dropdead, No Means No, Hanson Brothers, Bikini kill, 7 seconds, Ripcordz, Dayglow Abortion, all would be great to cover as well on the North american side of things. Also bunch of random super cool band to cover with no specific theme: Berurier Noir (as influencial as Crass on the french side of punk music), Phobia, X Ray Spex, Beyond Pink, Maid Of Ace, Sick On The Bus, Lukrate Milk, Tragedy, Fall of Efrafa, Antidote, Grimskunk, Nofx, Iskra, Leper (ska-crust), Gattaca, Remains of the Day, Oroku, Ashkara, CWILL, La Ligne Maginot, Madame Germen, Siphilisation, Kurwa Aparata, Deche-Charge, Turtle Rage, Maraboots, Lion's Law, Evil Conduct, The Last Resort, Otoboke Beaver, Polysics, Wormrot, Seitan, Dirty kids Discounts, QRBP, Ecocide, Wornout Porch, Bald Vulture, D.R.I., S.O.D, Darkthrone (the crust trilogy), Elvis Hitler, Hank III, The Buzzcoks, The Adicts, Anti-Nowhere League, Raised Fist, Refused, Fugazi, Bad Brains, Perkele, The Ray Gradys, Gwar, 8°6 Crew, D.B.C, Dystopia, Death (proto punk), Negro Terror, Dwarves, The Gruesomes, Toy dolls, 999, The Dickies, The Adolescents, Alaskan.........Aaaarrrrggggg I can't stop writing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry about that 🤘🤘🤘
Im.covering a lot of this stuff in the future but I absolutely can't stand Crass. It doesn't mean I won't try and stay objective and cover them, but it would be minimal and I wouldn't likely say a lot positive about them. But you mentioned a lot of bands and plenty I'm not even aware of, so I'm definitely taking notes. But yeah, I don't want to make a promise I can't keep and I don't want to fake being a fan of something I'm not, but just for the sake of punk rock history, they'll show up in videos eventually. I appreciate you watching, and the input, sincerely. Hope this doesn't sound too rude, it's not meant to be and it's not directed at you personally, lol. 👊😎🏴☠️
No offense taken, you are allowed not to like what I like. But I'm curious on why you can't stand them. They are trully great people in real life, Steve is an absolute gem of a person and their music and the record label were so important to the scene back then. Anyway to each their preferences maybe if you dig more into it in the futur you'll start to apreciate them more or maybe not 🤷♂️. Cheers mate 🤘
@permafrostprod1 specifically talking about their music, nothing else. I just don't like it. I would love to talk to them, it would likely give me a new outlook on their music and possibly change my opinion on it.
@@thepunkrockreview Nah I don't do that, people have their own opinion and I have mine, I like to talk about music alot and taste is taste and that is just a foulish thing to argue about.
For years I thought I was just hearing "punk rock" wrong or some people were saying it wrong, I only understood people were saying PUB ROCK like 5 years ago, lol
Pub rock was what the British called bands before punk had taken off ,that simply played energetic types of rock n roll ,like dr feellgood, Eddie n hot rods, cock sparrow, ian dury ect, that played pubs up and down the country, like the stooges is proto punk in us, in UK Eddie n hot rods ect were pub rock in uk
This was a video for before the Swingin Utters, but I covered them in the first video. I'll pin a comment with a link if you want to check it out! Thanks for watching. Oh, and I don't know much else about The Templars, or I would have put more in the video. I love that band
I’ve read some of the comments and all arguments about what is or isn’t street punk aside, I am genuinely curious about what he mentioned in this video that could be considered crust. Never thought of Discharge that way.
Discharge is the bedrock of D-Beat. Is D-Beat crust? I don't know, I've never thought of them the same, but I guess they could be. Discharge birthed the sound that bands like Doom, Tragedy, From Ashes Rise, His Hero Is Gone, Wolfbrigade, etc. use, specially the druma. I never called that stuff crust, but maybe? I just thought it was D-Beat. Thanks for watching
There's a cultural difference here unfortunately between the term in Uk and USA. Over here in uk it's about one thing "working class" politics. It's basically OI for bands who dont want to be part of the skinhead scene. Regardless its a great video. Thanks for your effort.
That's a good point, I will talk about that in the follow up video where I talk about some more bands. The difference in what it means in the UK, where it originated as far as I can tell, and the U.S. where it seems to be more about Rebellion and fashion but we borrowed from the music sonically.... thank you for watching, I appreciate it 👊 😎 🏴☠️
Also, maybe that's why I've seemed to resonate with the UK stuff more the older I get. I have 2 businesses and a family and have been blue collar for 25+ years
Thanks man, inworked hard on it. Oxymoron is too modern for this video but they were in the first one, it was about the 1990s-2000s. There's a link in the description. Leftover Crack, while great, aren't street punk. But I am planning a Crust/Crackrocksteady video at some point this year! Can't remember if I've listened to Bonecrusher and The Freeze, but I think I have. I'm making a master list for future videos though, I'll add them! Thank you! 👊😎🏴☠️
Thanks man, I appreciate it! None of those bands qualify for this video. This is an origin video, starts in the early 80s. But i covered them in the first street punk video, I'll drop a link in a pinned comment!
@planetwaft349 I am open to giving everything a 2nd chance, it's been a long time since I sat down and listened to Crass. I will absolutely check this out! 👊😎🏴☠️
If you're going to give Crass a go, try do they owe us a living, banned from the roxy and big a little a. If you don't like any of these, they're probably just not for you.
How about the Industrial band BILE.... A phenomenon, personally I say histories greatest composer is Krystoff. They made it to the mortal combat soundtrack, dee Snyders strangland movie. As well as making an appearance in the movie. Putting out albums steadily since 1992 and continue to this day .
Since you must have done a little bit of research on the subject of street punk in order to make this video, have you by any chance ever heard of a band called the Cockney Rejects?
Yes! I'm going to do a follow up to this with some more bands. Cockney Rejects, Chaos UK, Angelic Upstarts, and whoever else I can remember that I may have missed in this one
As a old head I was thinking you were gonna forget/miss the beginning of oi/street punk but fark you did an awesome review even the conflict exploited drama. Cheers & keep it up
Good bands but they cake WAY after the bands this video is about. I covered them in the first video, though. Here's a link! ua-cam.com/video/-8W-KyBCa7w/v-deo.html
I think if you're British or American really affects your view of punk .For an American you do have a good knowledge of the punk scene in Britain.An older British punk fan would probably see punk as almost a completely British thing and dismiss Green Day as not even real punk.The media in Britain and America now sees punk as US subculture because American bands have dominated the punk world for the last 30 years.A well researched video about some great bands like Business,Sham69,Uk Subs and Exploited
Thank you so much, I appreciate it! I work hard on this and love it so much. I'm working on some stuff about the punk scene in Indonesia right now, too
I'd say Sham69 Cockney Rejects and Angelic Upstarts ,were the biggest and oldest of the oi,street punk sound and style. Lots of trouble at gigs ,because of far right minority
I was just praising the templars saying they were the lords of the sword, and the poor knights of acre (a term associated to the actual templars) And the phrase "burn out their eyes!" (A line from Return of the Blind Dead, a film that inspired the band as well)
Street Punk is nothing but a continuation of 1980's Hardcore Punk. Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat etc etc. That's the easiest way to explain it.
I mean, no. Lol. It literally didn't come from that at all. Just listen to the first like 5-6 min of this video. It came from UK82 stuff, oi! music over in Europe. What you're talking about is Hardcore. It may have a little influence on modern street punk, but no, it's not where it came from.
What? No, lol. I've never heard anything by him or about him that led me to believe he had anything to do with street punk or UK82... personally, I'm not into him.or what he did, but maybe one day I'll make a video about him... thanks for watching, regardless 👊😎🏴☠️
Green day were as punk as it gets, they came from the bay area and played at Gilman st. Signing to a major label isn't selling out as long as you're still playing the music you want to play. That's why the whole pubk ethos falls apart since they quickly became their own establishment with strict rules you had to follow instead of being a haven for freedom of expressionand creativity like they claim to be.
I mean, I don't think I've ever claimed Greem Day sold out... they WERE punk for sure. But they definitely don't play punk rock anymore. But every culture or group has rules, including punk. I've never heard, been told, or said that there are no rules in punk. But being punk and playing punk rock aren't the same thing... but yeah, there are always punk haters (that behave like you are here, and im not even telling you to act different. I don't care, do what you want) so it's whatever, lol. I'm going to wave this flag until I'm dead and gone. It's completely saved and changed my life. But punk is tribal, just like everything else, bc it's made by humans. I dunno, my point is, who cares, I love punk. Do what you want. Green Day has been mid (musically) for 20 years, but always seemed to do what they want and seemed like stand up dudes. That's punk to me. 🤷🏻 ok, rant over, lol
@thepunkrockreview I love punk as well, and you're absolutely right, playing punk rock and being punk are totally seperate. That's why I still have respect for green day as fellow punks, cuz in most cases, a 30-40 year career of 3 minute, 3 chord songs isn't sustainable or able to stay interesting unless you allow yourself to go outside of that framework of punk music. Unless you're Keith Morris, that MFer seems like he'll never run out of great, fast, punk songs lol
Thank you all so much for watching, i appreciate it! For anyone wanting to see bands from the 90s, this is the first video I made like this, covering that era. Bands like Rancid, Casualties, and Oxymoron are featured in it.
ua-cam.com/video/Lu9WoKdHWQk/v-deo.html
you tell me - it's all about if they're gonna have "street punk" kids and/or if they only wear their costume for gigs
'Street Punk' aint GBH or Exploited or Uk Subs or anything like Crust bands- Street Punk is English Oi! music - Slaughter and The Dogs ,Sham69 ,Cockney Rejects, Angelic Upstarts, The Last Resort ,4Skins , The Business , Cock Sparrer, Criminal Class .....
The genre and sub genre thing is so ridiculous no matter which type of music it is.
Sham69 is pretty awesome!Cock Sparrer is great ofcourse!
@@niceguy1774 Oi is Street Punk in reality.
Non of those bands of the time liked the moniker which was basically coined by Gary Bushell when he worked for Sounds having to give the movement a name so he could write about it.
There was this thing going around London at the time among the Working Class when talking to each other saying "Oi, Over Here Mate"! & stuff like "Oi Oi Saveloy" which still gets used by some people of the older generation.
I guess the likes of Bushell cottoned on to what the youth were saying and used the name that stuck with the movement.
After the Southall Riots in 1981 most bands didn't want to be associated with the name Oi anymore because it was being linked with the far right becoming more of a Skin Head thing after those events.
Combat 84 done a lot of damage to the image of street punk after the 1982 Arena documentary where they espoused racist views which forever tarnished all Skins as being the same!
Combat 84 were a Middle Class band who had previously had nothing to do with the movement before them coming a bit later on, they done a hell of a lot of damage to the reputation of Punk and Skin Heads of the time.
@@SKINDEREE Right to choose thou🔥🔥🔥
I really enjoyed this man, thank you.
Rest In Peace Mickey Fitz!
My most worn shirt in the 90’s was the Guinness logo as The Business that said Loud Proud and Punk, wish I still had it.
Yoooooo! I had one of those, too! Man... I totally forgot about that shirt!
You answered your own question! The police were pub rock, music you could hear on a jukebox in a pub while the subs played on your record player at home.
Oh ok, that makes sense. I just recently started hearing the term "pub rock" a lot, so I wasn't quite sure that's what it meant
Wow, super well done video. Haven't seen a video this detailed with this much info packed into it. Love it!
Thank you! Not perfect, but I worked super hard on this one. I appreciate you watching it
The Business!! The Beginning
Yessir!!!
Everyone loves a good history lesson. Thanks for this!
Heck yeah, thank you for watching it!
Bands like Discharge, the Varukers, Charged GBH, the Exploited, Anti-Nowhere League were more part of another scene which went under the banner of UK 82.
That scene came chiefly out of the Midlands in England which was a lot faster than normal Punk ending up becoming Thrash Metal by fans of the bands in the States.
The D Blast drumming patterns being adopted by these bands through lack of technical efficiency also ended up being adopted by the likes of Metallica, Exodus, Slayer etc
Sure, they're all considered street punk bands though. Discharge is more crossover street punk and D-Beat, but the other bands obviously dip into other genres a little, too, but they're for sure street punk. It's a muddy water, though
@@thepunkrockreview I don't know about that because Street Punk is more the "Herbert" thing.
Street Punk is more in line with the casual and football hooligan thing in terms of dress.
Harrington's, Flight Jackets, Lonsdale T Shirts, Everlast, Levis jeans, trainers, boots etc
Pretty much the way bands like Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer looked like.
You would never see the likes of Mensi, Jeff Turner with Mohawks or anything like that back in the day.
That is the whole point of street punk is the fact these Working Class kids were street level characters you would see around your neighbourhood.
You would also see these UK 82 types around going to the same gigs as the Herbert's although I class them as something different.
Uk Subs still playing gigs , Charlie was 80 this week ,they played a big gig in London on Saturday.
Yeah I saw Lars made a post about it, that's amazing! 80 years young still doing the damn thing! Wild
Great video! Basque Country street punk is for me the best thing nowadays you can hear related to all this and collecting all this legacy... I tell you bro, check it out there are many bands that will blow your mind 🤯
Really enjoyed this,one gig you mentioned in particular i recall very well was the Carlisle Punk Festival back in 1984 with the Exploited,GBH,Toy Dolls,Chelsea etc..great gig,great memories..long live punk rock!!
Thank you so much, I worked hard on this one
New to this channel. Good job on this video. Doing any sort of punk documentary is a damned if you do,damned if you dont kinda thing. Punks,for all their assertions of unity and family,are just as fickle and judgmental as pop fans. You can never please everyone. I'm an old geezer and dug this quite a bit.Keep them coming. Cheers.
I appreciate you and agree 100%, lol. Thank you for watching, I definitely have more on the way!
Awesome, my dude. A lot of hard work with a very clever storyline! Bring them on! 💪
Ayyye! Thanks for watching bro! I wonr get mad if you share the video.... 😂😂😂
@@thepunkrockreview already did it after watching! And i totally support and think it's very fair you making this a full time job. I'm 'messing' with bands that i like trying to not step in your way, my dude (rancid is the exception, but i can't hold myself and you sure understand). PS - waiting for a Rev. Horton Heat vídeo so i don't have to do it with borat narration 😸😸
Man I appreciate that a lot! I'm absolutely working towards making this a full time thing. I want to document and entertain. I want this to be a destination spot for bands and such
Difference between pub and punk rock, aggression, pub rock included stuff like elvis costello pub rock was like the garage rock movement in the UK guys having a go at being the kinks or the small faces rehearsing at home and later playing in pubs. Punk rock took it that stage further with speed etc.
Going to see The Exploited and Total Chaos in September in Brooklyn N.Y.
That should be awesome!
Bloody great ! Loved it..... really informative and some fucking awesome bands. Cheers Bro.
Thank you so much! Gonna work on more installments of this one later in the year
Another solid video, hell yea. Would be cool if you dove into how street punk continued on in the 2000s and 2010s. East LA was and still is a hot spot for it
Thank you! I'll get to that eventually, for sure 👊😎🏴☠️
Two of the most real bands you had from that era who actually lived what they said were the Angelic Upstarts & Cockney Rejects.
Both had the violence and political strife of the time following them around coupled with football hooliganism, organized crime, etc Brothers Jeff Turner & Micky Geggus were both good boxers who could handle themselves and Mensi R.I.P was a proper hard case who was involved with football thing with Sunderland.
Both bands were involved in some of the most notorious incidents of that era that led to mass brawls, attempted murders, arson, gun violence due to disputes with underworld figures etc etc etc
I really liked this video. This type of content is really enjoyable and interesting. Thanks!
Thank you! I'm working on my next one already, as well!
You should do a video on the history of Houston punk. There was thus one venue called The Island that i think got constantly shut down
There were a few places down here that had that problem, lol. I may do a video on that down the line, I need to start compiling info on a number of videos and get to work! I have so many things I want to cover!
Oh man, this genre, probably my favourite genre. So many good bands. And at the moment there are so many new and good bands here in Europe. Bands like Claimed Choice, The Young Ones, Rotten XIII, Kaleko Urdangak and so many more are just fucking amazing. Had the pleasure to share the stage with a few of them with my my band (The Reapers) and i was and am blown away every time. Check those European bands out!
Yeah I've heard a few of those bands, but I'll check out the others. I love what's going on in France right now, SO MUCH GOOD darkwave Oi! coming from that part of the world
Also, is your band's music anywhere I can check it out?
@@thepunkrockreview Yeah, France is crazy. And everything that is coming out of Basque Country is amazing!
@@thepunkrockreview oh that song is even here in youtube.
ua-cam.com/video/s_jID7DPSpE/v-deo.htmlsi=7sfTzD1IQjMX8OL4
FYI the violent disorder record I was telling you about "Skinhead worldwide", its out Friday. What I found interesting is the connection in respect of the business and argy bargy have the rhythm section of ray and nic of London beatdown hardcore crew knuckledust, which is probably why both bands were tight as in their latter years as those guys have been playing together for over 30 years in bands that are more technical etc than their street punk output.
I'll add that to the list of things to cover next week! I'll see if I can order physical copies, too
awesome video Randall! Great work
Thanks homie, I appreciate it! This one took FOREVER! But im.lretty happy with it. Got a few bands I'd like to talk about still, so there's likely a 2nd installment of this one coming
Excited for this......cheers
Thank you, I worked hard on this one! I'm trying to do more of this stuff, I want to do one a month at least.
Great documentary! I’ve been lucky enough to see GBH, The Exploited, and Total Chaos, all within the last 6or 7 yrs….
Thank you so much! That's amazing, I'm trying to catch some of these bands that I can still see OG members of
Pub Rock was largely older bands prior to Punk influenced by Beat, Glam and R&B. Strang,ers, Vibrators, Cock Sparrer and others had their roots in pub Rock but changed to more Punk under influence of Bands like the sex Pistols.Stranglers always were more a garage version of the doors though early on.
I thought Streetpunk was something of an early in-scene term. There were bands who were more Art-Punk and more Powerpop and some who were more working class, streetlevel, direct and Streetpunk was an early name for that. Cock Sparrer, Menace, Angelic Upstarts, Chelsea, Sham 69, slaughter and the dogs, the Ruts, the skids, maybe even UK subs, Lurkers. In the beginning maybe early Exploited, Discharge, Vice Squad , the Violators, and the Business were lumped in with them together, Addicts and Peter and the test-tube babies certainly were. But largely it all became Oi! Which at the beginning was a more broad term und didn't beco e synonymous with Skinhead bands until somewhat later. But few early fanzi es used "Streetpunk" and i wasn't there so i cannot say how far spread and accepted it really was. However it was very different from the later UK82 Hardcore Punk which was more motorhead inspired.
Again i forgot Anti-nowhere league and Chron Gen. Musically and scenewise they certainly were the right direction, but they probably were pretty much their own thing.
This is great!
Thank you! I'm sure it's not perfect, but I worked hard on it. Gonna have to make a 2nd part I'm sure. I know I'd like to include Angelic Upstarts, Cockney Rejects, and Warzone in another installment
Great narration, really enjoying the content
Thank you! I think im getting better at it. I don't want to us AI, I hate that stuff. I am working on an Indonesian Street Punk video next!
I'd like to see a long video like that on the bands on Crass Records (Crass, The Cravats, Flux of Pink Indians,Zounds, Dirt, Annie Anxiety, Poisson Girls, Rudimentary Peni, Honey Bane, Mob, Etc.) and the adjacent scene (Conflict, MDC, The Subhumans, Amebix, Disrupt, Nausea, Schwartzeneggar Chumbawamba (they should get their own video), Oi Polloi, Abrasive Wheels, Etc.)
Band like Dead Kennedys, The Smarties, BuNaked Agression, D.O.A., Youth Brigade, Reagan Youth, Dropdead, No Means No, Hanson Brothers, Bikini kill, 7 seconds, Ripcordz, Dayglow Abortion, all would be great to cover as well on the North american side of things.
Also bunch of random super cool band to cover with no specific theme: Berurier Noir (as influencial as Crass on the french side of punk music), Phobia, X Ray Spex, Beyond Pink, Maid Of Ace, Sick On The Bus, Lukrate Milk, Tragedy, Fall of Efrafa, Antidote, Grimskunk, Nofx, Iskra, Leper (ska-crust), Gattaca, Remains of the Day, Oroku, Ashkara, CWILL, La Ligne Maginot, Madame Germen, Siphilisation, Kurwa Aparata, Deche-Charge, Turtle Rage, Maraboots, Lion's Law, Evil Conduct, The Last Resort, Otoboke Beaver, Polysics, Wormrot, Seitan, Dirty kids Discounts, QRBP, Ecocide, Wornout Porch, Bald Vulture, D.R.I., S.O.D, Darkthrone (the crust trilogy), Elvis Hitler, Hank III, The Buzzcoks, The Adicts, Anti-Nowhere League, Raised Fist, Refused, Fugazi, Bad Brains, Perkele, The Ray Gradys, Gwar, 8°6 Crew, D.B.C, Dystopia, Death (proto punk), Negro Terror, Dwarves, The Gruesomes, Toy dolls, 999, The Dickies, The Adolescents, Alaskan.........Aaaarrrrggggg I can't stop writing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry about that 🤘🤘🤘
Im.covering a lot of this stuff in the future but I absolutely can't stand Crass. It doesn't mean I won't try and stay objective and cover them, but it would be minimal and I wouldn't likely say a lot positive about them. But you mentioned a lot of bands and plenty I'm not even aware of, so I'm definitely taking notes. But yeah, I don't want to make a promise I can't keep and I don't want to fake being a fan of something I'm not, but just for the sake of punk rock history, they'll show up in videos eventually. I appreciate you watching, and the input, sincerely. Hope this doesn't sound too rude, it's not meant to be and it's not directed at you personally, lol. 👊😎🏴☠️
No offense taken, you are allowed not to like what I like. But I'm curious on why you can't stand them. They are trully great people in real life, Steve is an absolute gem of a person and their music and the record label were so important to the scene back then. Anyway to each their preferences maybe if you dig more into it in the futur you'll start to apreciate them more or maybe not 🤷♂️.
Cheers mate 🤘
@permafrostprod1 specifically talking about their music, nothing else. I just don't like it. I would love to talk to them, it would likely give me a new outlook on their music and possibly change my opinion on it.
@permafrostprod1 also, I gotta day, I sincerely appreciate your response to me, I wasn't trying to be rude but I expected you to snap on me, lol
@@thepunkrockreview Nah I don't do that, people have their own opinion and I have mine, I like to talk about music alot and taste is taste and that is just a foulish thing to argue about.
I think pub rock was simply rock bands in England who played the pubs but played originals or older covers and not the current style
For years I thought I was just hearing "punk rock" wrong or some people were saying it wrong, I only understood people were saying PUB ROCK like 5 years ago, lol
Pub rock was what the British called bands before punk had taken off ,that simply played energetic types of rock n roll ,like dr feellgood, Eddie n hot rods, cock sparrow, ian dury ect, that played pubs up and down the country, like the stooges is proto punk in us, in UK Eddie n hot rods ect were pub rock in uk
Cool as usual. Templars needed more time. Reducers SF and Swingin’ Utters would have fit right in. Yeah, I’m Bay Area proud
This was a video for before the Swingin Utters, but I covered them in the first video. I'll pin a comment with a link if you want to check it out! Thanks for watching.
Oh, and I don't know much else about The Templars, or I would have put more in the video. I love that band
Love the Templars add on. Ive been on a big kick of them lately
Great band!
I would like to hear something on just crust bands like Filth , Nausea etc... etc....
That is absolutely on the list for this year. I have a cpl ahead of it but it's coming
Hell yeah!
Thanks Shane, I appreciate the support hombre
The Templars Rule OK
pub rock was before punk
Yeah im starting to learn about this! Got some recommendations?
Great vid!!
Thank you!!!
Very cool, thanks for this
Absolutely! Thank you for watching!
I’ve read some of the comments and all arguments about what is or isn’t street punk aside, I am genuinely curious about what he mentioned in this video that could be considered crust. Never thought of Discharge that way.
Discharge is the bedrock of D-Beat. Is D-Beat crust? I don't know, I've never thought of them the same, but I guess they could be. Discharge birthed the sound that bands like Doom, Tragedy, From Ashes Rise, His Hero Is Gone, Wolfbrigade, etc. use, specially the druma. I never called that stuff crust, but maybe? I just thought it was D-Beat. Thanks for watching
Shoutout to Revolt
Good Stuff 👍🏻
Thanks man, I appreciate it Joe
Great video. Well done bro😊
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Lot of work to make these types of things
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my dude, thanks for checking it out
Do Peter and the Test-tube Babies! Please!🥺🥹
There's a cultural difference here unfortunately between the term in Uk and USA. Over here in uk it's about one thing "working class" politics. It's basically OI for bands who dont want to be part of the skinhead scene.
Regardless its a great video. Thanks for your effort.
That's a good point, I will talk about that in the follow up video where I talk about some more bands. The difference in what it means in the UK, where it originated as far as I can tell, and the U.S. where it seems to be more about Rebellion and fashion but we borrowed from the music sonically.... thank you for watching, I appreciate it 👊 😎 🏴☠️
Also, maybe that's why I've seemed to resonate with the UK stuff more the older I get. I have 2 businesses and a family and have been blue collar for 25+ years
Great doc, love punk, I'd add oxymoron, bonecrusher, and the freeze, all super underrated sum my favs, and leftover crack
Thanks man, inworked hard on it.
Oxymoron is too modern for this video but they were in the first one, it was about the 1990s-2000s. There's a link in the description. Leftover Crack, while great, aren't street punk. But I am planning a Crust/Crackrocksteady video at some point this year!
Can't remember if I've listened to Bonecrusher and The Freeze, but I think I have. I'm making a master list for future videos though, I'll add them! Thank you! 👊😎🏴☠️
@thepunkrockreview cool man just mentioned bands I think don't get respect, just punx bands underrated, keep em comming broski
Rancid and NoFX., and Oxymoron
And a cool video Bro.
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
None of those bands qualify for this video. This is an origin video, starts in the early 80s. But i covered them in the first street punk video, I'll drop a link in a pinned comment!
Well researched video
Thank you, I tried to do my best! A lot of it is from Wikipedia, of course, but planning it all out is where it gets tough, lol
This is well done
Man that made my day, thank you! I know it's not perfect, but I worked so hard on this...
You've got to love Crass.
Kind of hippy free festival punk crossover.
Anyone heard of 'Here and Now' ?
Nah, can't stand that band. Terrible music. The members of the band, I'm sure they're great, but the music is awful imo. 🤷🏻
@@thepunkrockreview ok fair enough but have you listened to "Reality Asylum'. ?
It might surprise you.
@planetwaft349 I am open to giving everything a 2nd chance, it's been a long time since I sat down and listened to Crass. I will absolutely check this out! 👊😎🏴☠️
If you're going to give Crass a go, try do they owe us a living, banned from the roxy and big a little a. If you don't like any of these, they're probably just not for you.
Grew up in the Boston punk scene and Marc and Paul would switch halfway throughout the show. And fun fact, Trip writes kids books now
Does he really?!? That's kinda awesome... I have kids, are they on Amazon?
How about the Industrial band BILE.... A phenomenon, personally I say histories greatest composer is Krystoff. They made it to the mortal combat soundtrack, dee Snyders strangland movie. As well as making an appearance in the movie. Putting out albums steadily since 1992 and continue to this day .
Not trying to sound rude, sincerely, what does that have to do with early street punk?
@@thepunkrockreview really nothing,my mistake I thought you involved all forms of the extreme music... misunderstanding on my part.
@PatTap-og7he well not on this video for sure, but I really only feature punk and punk adjacent music here
Since you must have done a little bit of research on the subject of street punk in order to make this video, have you by any chance ever heard of a band called the Cockney Rejects?
Yes! I'm going to do a follow up to this with some more bands. Cockney Rejects, Chaos UK, Angelic Upstarts, and whoever else I can remember that I may have missed in this one
As a old head I was thinking you were gonna forget/miss the beginning of oi/street punk but fark you did an awesome review even the conflict exploited drama. Cheers & keep it up
Thanks man, I may not get everything 100% correct, but I definitely put the work in.
Universally agreed upon answers sounds a little too close to order, and well just start rebelling against that too.
Wait, is that a Star Wars quote?
Cover Rupture from Australia
Heard! I'll definitely check that out!
What about Oxy Moron or The Causalities?
Good bands but they cake WAY after the bands this video is about. I covered them in the first video, though. Here's a link!
ua-cam.com/video/-8W-KyBCa7w/v-deo.html
I think if you're British or American really affects your view of punk .For an American you do have a good knowledge of the punk scene in Britain.An older British punk fan would probably see punk as almost a completely British thing and dismiss Green Day as not even real punk.The media in Britain and America now sees punk as US subculture because American bands have dominated the punk world for the last 30 years.A well researched video about some great bands like Business,Sham69,Uk Subs and Exploited
Thank you so much, I appreciate it! I work hard on this and love it so much. I'm working on some stuff about the punk scene in Indonesia right now, too
@@thepunkrockreview I thought it was a good and entertaining video that profiled bands that I liked when I was young
Chaos UK - One Hundred Per Cent Two Fingers in the Air Punk Rock
Violent Society - Not Enjoying It
Oh shit, I forgot CHAOS UK!!!! 🤦
Check out jesters of chaos
Or Spermbirds
Noted! I'll check em both out!
I'd say Sham69 Cockney Rejects and Angelic Upstarts ,were the biggest and oldest of the oi,street punk sound and style. Lots of trouble at gigs ,because of far right minority
I'm gonna do another installment with Angelic Upstarts and Cockney Rejects for sure
UK82
Hey. Why did my Templars comment disappear?
I have no idea. I don't delete comments.
Was it a question for me? I probably replied, no? What'd it say?
UA-cam hides 90% of my comments.
I was just praising the templars saying they were the lords of the sword, and the poor knights of acre (a term associated to the actual templars)
And the phrase "burn out their eyes!" (A line from Return of the Blind Dead, a film that inspired the band as well)
@@fletchkeilman2205 ah ok, not sure why YT would take that down... weird. But yeah, I love that band!
Pub rock is Dr feelgoood
British pub rock was fast RnB
Oh ok, what are some bands from that genre I should look into?
Dr Feelgood Eddy and The Hot Rods Ian Dury and Blockheads,Kilburn and High Roads. All British Pub rock bands from early to mid 70s
@@AndrewjWilson thank you! I'll go listen to those bands
Tyler Gang ,Ducks Deluxe also popular mid 70s pub rockers
@@AndrewjWilson heck yeah, thank you!
Street Punk is nothing but a continuation of 1980's Hardcore Punk. Black Flag, Circle Jerks, Minor Threat etc etc. That's the easiest way to explain it.
I mean, no. Lol. It literally didn't come from that at all. Just listen to the first like 5-6 min of this video. It came from UK82 stuff, oi! music over in Europe. What you're talking about is Hardcore. It may have a little influence on modern street punk, but no, it's not where it came from.
You forgot Chaos UK
I know
I also said in the video that it wasn't a comprehensive list. Jjst sayin' loo 👊
GG Allin??
What? No, lol. I've never heard anything by him or about him that led me to believe he had anything to do with street punk or UK82... personally, I'm not into him.or what he did, but maybe one day I'll make a video about him... thanks for watching, regardless 👊😎🏴☠️
GG wanted to be a rock star and even said so in old interviews and confirmed by his brother in recent interviews
Green day were as punk as it gets, they came from the bay area and played at Gilman st. Signing to a major label isn't selling out as long as you're still playing the music you want to play. That's why the whole pubk ethos falls apart since they quickly became their own establishment with strict rules you had to follow instead of being a haven for freedom of expressionand creativity like they claim to be.
I mean, I don't think I've ever claimed Greem Day sold out... they WERE punk for sure. But they definitely don't play punk rock anymore. But every culture or group has rules, including punk. I've never heard, been told, or said that there are no rules in punk. But being punk and playing punk rock aren't the same thing... but yeah, there are always punk haters (that behave like you are here, and im not even telling you to act different. I don't care, do what you want) so it's whatever, lol. I'm going to wave this flag until I'm dead and gone. It's completely saved and changed my life. But punk is tribal, just like everything else, bc it's made by humans. I dunno, my point is, who cares, I love punk. Do what you want. Green Day has been mid (musically) for 20 years, but always seemed to do what they want and seemed like stand up dudes. That's punk to me. 🤷🏻 ok, rant over, lol
@thepunkrockreview I love punk as well, and you're absolutely right, playing punk rock and being punk are totally seperate. That's why I still have respect for green day as fellow punks, cuz in most cases, a 30-40 year career of 3 minute, 3 chord songs isn't sustainable or able to stay interesting unless you allow yourself to go outside of that framework of punk music. Unless you're Keith Morris, that MFer seems like he'll never run out of great, fast, punk songs lol