THANK YOU for watching this video, I worked harder on it than it may look on the surface. Here is a link to the second part if you are interested in seeing some stuff on the 1977 Self Titled album. Also, there is an unedited version on my Patreon (Link in description) with about 40 minutes more footage on it if you want to check that out. Thank you!!! ua-cam.com/video/ZcvkSmcFo7I/v-deo.html
I don’t like punk (I like post-punk, metal and metallic hardcore), but this is still interesting and educational. I think most of us have those groups we sleep on because of our outlook and then come to appreciate with age and wisdom
The one thing about me i always stand on is that I'm very open to changing my mind. It doesn't bother me to be into something and then suddenly you're not, and I also don't mind not being into a band for years and then suddenly like them. It is what it is, ya know?
Awesome to see you come around on The Clash! I'm a huge fan of both them and Rancid, and it's really cool to see them side by side! I missed so many musical references until now!
Man im so glad you got the chance to get introduced to the Clash. Its actually really cool to save that discovery for this stage of your life. It gets to be new to you. There catalogue is one Hell of a rabit hole, and admittedly ... There are some songs that i kind of cant get down with, but when you find one that speaks to you, it stays with you. Their lyrical approach was so cavalier and no fucks given. Honestly they said some stuff that probably should have freaked out the squares a lot more than the Sex Pistols. Im about halfway rhrough your first video. Looking forward to hearing the rest of both. Will be sharing.
Oh man! I never noticed subterranean was like same tempo as last gang in town. One other interesting and kind of funny thing is "this town belongs to me" is literally the same song as a Skrewdriver song called "tomorrow belongs to us" 😂 Yeah I thought about 11th hour being really clash inspired too. Oh... Unrelated... But you know the gaslight anthem song "ida called you woody Joe" off of sink or swim is like a love letter to the clash. Brian said It's about his first time hearing the clash and how his life changed.
Please share, that would be awesome! And I know that Gaslight song, but I can't think of it, I'll have to go back and listen to it. I'm having fun going through these songs, I'm going to make a Top 10 list soon, and then do it again in a year and see how much it changes
Dude! So glad you're into The Clash now. Welcome!!! I completely understand why their later stuff didn't hit you as a kid. At 14 or 15, when I first started getting into punk rock, I picked up a used cassette copy of The Story of The Clash because I heard there was more to them than the hits I knew. The first tape was all the radio stuff and I thought it was ok, but I didn't connect with The Clash until tape 2. That was what I was looking for and I was hooked by the time side A ended. Sorry you didn't go the compilation route when you started with them.
Love your work man. The Clash was one of my Dad's favourite bands when he was a kid then when I was a kid he introduced me to them after Rancid. I liked The Clash but they didn't grab me like other bands because they wasn't fast and shouty haha. Now I'm older and can actually understand what the songs are about and with more knowledge of the history of punk in general they connect on a much stronger level. Sorry for the essay I'm just so glad somebody is making videos talking in depth about my life long obsession. ❤ By the way, when you mentioned Tommy Gun and Out Come The Wolves it made me think of Listed MIA straight away.
I know it's an off the cuff question but I'd be super intrigued by what you'd think of Strummer's Mescalaros albums,,,, considering all 3 were released on Hellcat and I believe Rancid was the backing band on 2 tracks for his last album of the 3 ('Streetcore' I believe, was the name of it----released posthumously RIP)
I haven't listened to them in years, and I didn't like them much back when i heard them, outside a couple of standout tracks. That being said, I will be revisiting them soon to see if my opinion changed
Really fun video 👊🏻 Took me a while to get into The Clash for similar reasons. It wasn’t a sound I was looking for at the time, but loving the US bombs made me get into the clash heavy because of how insane their influence was on them
Matt Freeman is the best and l Iove his band Devil's Brigade - a bit like Rancid with a Double Bass.... but Paul Simonon was only in his early 20s when he recorded the debut Clash album and you can search pictures of him with the root notes printed on the back of the neck of his bass guitar when playing live.. still effective bass playing though, considering how young he was at the time....
I've always thought his voice sounds like Shane's, but he doesn't sing like him. He songs like Strummer a bit. He's really got his own style now, by combining a few other styles and making them his own sound. Rancid also has their own sound, even though they got some of it from The Clash.
Tim Armstrong was good friends with Joe strummer and admits one of his favorite bands were the clash , you can definitely see the influence in Rancid’s music , also Tim signed Strummer to Hellcat records were he released one album I believe? 👍
Sorry you feel embarrassed man. So happy to have you on board. For me all good things stem from The Clash and I am really happy that you are now getting to experience them. The Clash epitomize what punk was, is and can be. You have a huge rabbit hole to dive into. I am excited that you are going to learn the meanings behind Joe Strummer's words. Listen to them carefully . Also sorry to disagree but The Clash had three front men as Paul Simonon, the bass player also sang.
“Something finally clicked.” Lol. I was late to The Clash too. Maybe around my mid 20’s I listened to more than just the “hits” and I was like damn ok, I kinda like this. I get it now. I honestly can’t say why I overlooked them for so long. But it was cool being a bit older and feeling like discovering punk all over again in a way. 🙂
@ For sure! Enjoy the feeling man! Edit: I know this is about The Clash, but there’s an older band called The Scarred. They were on Punkcore for a while, kinda towards the end of the label. I absolutely love that band, and they are very very influenced by The Clash. Might be worth checking out.
The Clash is part of the Punk Rock, Canon. Study it, and learn it well youg grashopper. As far as similarities with Rancid Tim Armstrong's voice is similar to Joe Strummers and the first 2 Rancid albums are similar in terms of song structure and subject matter to the first two Clash albums. The clash morphed from a punk band to a straight up New Wave band by the time they were on their third album. That's where the similarities pertty much end. The Clash had higher ambitions then just being trapped in what became the formulaic punk rock 2.0. It's cool that you finally discovered them because the vibe is awesome.
I'm glad you're enjoying this! I dont know that I'll ever get into their later stuff, as I've had it all multiple times and have only enjoyed their hits. Even those I'm not super into. I find it incredible that their biggest hit songs were off their "worst" albums
@@thepunkrockreview Yeah, the band is remembere for the New Wave radio freindly hits, which are all strong songs, but not at all 'punk' in their sound. The first two albums though are quite stellar and represent the best of british punk rock, second only to the pistols in my opinion.
The Damned were the 1st punk band to release a record in 77, the Sex Pistols, and the Clash followed a little later, but punk did officially start in 76 after half the audience in attendance started their own bands. The Clash were the 1st punk band i got into back in 1980. i'm old, LOL
Yeah it's an argument I don't usually take part in. I say The Ramones started it, but people will think what they think. It doesn't really matter to me, though, I don't care how I got here, I'm just glad I did
@@thepunkrockreview I agree Ramones unknowingly created what was later labeled “punk rock”. Seems some still think it began in the UK, regardless of both the Pistols and Joe Strummer citing them as inspirational. Like you said, people will think what they think.
Sorry for all the comments, The Clash and Rancid are two of my favourite bands..... loved the video... and if I had started with Combat Rock and London Calling I would have been disillusioned too, let alone Sandinista the triple album genre fusion-fest ! but their early punk stuff really stands the test of time ... all best JT
In addition to how incredible they were, the Clash were probably more influential upon Rancid than any other band had been. The Clash were heavily influential upon hundreds of other punk rock bands worldwide as well. This is obvious to me, but hey. I can't knock it when people attempt to try and learn about just about anything, especially if it's where they came from. I don't know exactly what to make of some of the things that I'm hearing in this episode though, I must admit. You mention the Ramones in the beginning of it, and how you were into them already way back for example. Some months back you told both me, and also my buddy Dante that you did not like the Ramones and that you didn't consider them to be in any way relevant to punk rock, so naturally I found this to be a little bit strange. I also wanted to mention that punk rock bands throughout the years have notoriously pulled their influences from many places. What the song English Civil War by the Clash shares in common with many songs by the Dropkick Murphys for example is that they were both influenced to some extent by English, Scottish and Irish folk and marching band music.
I don't recall ever saying I wasn't a fan of The Ramones... please shoot me a DM of when and where I said that so I can either 1) explain something I meant or 2) i didn't say that. I definitely said that about The Buzzcocks and The Clash. But if you've seen the video with Dante Ross, then you know exactly why I like what I like and how I got to these interests, etc, so none of this should be surprising. But yeah, I like what I like and a ton of this stuff is subjective and knowing/ understanding things is circumstantial bc it all depends on where you grew up and learned about it all, etc. As I've said many times, I was solo in all of this and lived in Houston, so the fact I even found punk rock was kind of unlikely to begin with. But yeah, make what you want out of the episode, I do the best I can with this stuff. But I don't think I've ever said I didn't like the Ramones or that they weren't innovative or whatever, I'm curious as to what makes you think I did... and if I did say something like that, I feel like maybe it is being taken out of context or I misspoke. Anyways.... yeah, I'm sorry if I'm not punk rock enough, lol...
@@thepunkrockreview Me and Dante have been friends since I was 13, so yeah. Of course I watched your interview with him. As for all of that stuff pertaining to the Ramones, that was during a back and forth session that you and I were having in your commenting section, and I remember it although not word for word. I will try and dig that up, and if it's still there than I'm sure that I will find it. I just wanted to ad that your closing statement above left me confused, since I don't go around telling anyone that they're not punk rock enough. Why would I? It simply wouldn't be worth my while to tell someone something like that because at the end of the day I honestly don't care. But you're choosing to apologize to me for something anyway. Well I accept your apology I guess, although to be perfectly honest I have no idea what it's for.
The first two Clash albums are fantastic. Most people are into London Calling or Combat Rock but for me The Clash and Give Em Enough Rope are the best Clash albums. Tommy Gun is a cracking tune. Toppers drumming on this album is superb.
Love both bands dearly for me I always wondered if Lars was as into the ruts much as he was the clash as seggs the bass player for the ruts was a session player for the uk subs around the time lars was in the band? the ruts always straddled that proto oi meets reggae/ska type sound, I always thought the clash, uk subs and the ruts were his jumping off points.
The album style progression of The Clash was somewhat replicated by Rancid too. First two albums and ep's more raw punk. 3rd album more accesible. 4th album experimental. Rancid didnt do a Combat Rock album, instead reverted to raw album for 5th. And havent followed a course since.
Yeah inwas actually talking about that with a buddy of mine the other day. the fact that Tim is so similar to Joe, inherently, is likely a lot of the reason for those similarities. I doubt it was planned
Bc Ramones-core bands have a much more narrow, distinct sound, and they're intentionally sounding like the Ramones as much as they can. The Clash had a much more broad sound, and I don't think bands intentionally start playing music to emulate them. Although bands like The Interrupters, The Last Gang, Left Alone, and Time Again are a derivative of The Clash, they sound more like Rancid than the Clash. It's kind of weird, actually
THANK YOU for watching this video, I worked harder on it than it may look on the surface. Here is a link to the second part if you are interested in seeing some stuff on the 1977 Self Titled album. Also, there is an unedited version on my Patreon (Link in description) with about 40 minutes more footage on it if you want to check that out. Thank you!!!
ua-cam.com/video/ZcvkSmcFo7I/v-deo.html
Love THE CLASH, love RANCID !!!
This was a fun video to do for sure. I'm gonna drop a bigger video with both parts and a new intro with a couple notes from the comment section
I don’t like punk (I like post-punk, metal and metallic hardcore), but this is still interesting and educational. I think most of us have those groups we sleep on because of our outlook and then come to appreciate with age and wisdom
The one thing about me i always stand on is that I'm very open to changing my mind. It doesn't bother me to be into something and then suddenly you're not, and I also don't mind not being into a band for years and then suddenly like them. It is what it is, ya know?
Grew up with "Sandinista!"
Oh man, I can't get into that album
Awesome to see you come around on The Clash! I'm a huge fan of both them and Rancid, and it's really cool to see them side by side! I missed so many musical references until now!
I am trying to learn about this stuff and simultaneously pass along my knowledge!
Man im so glad you got the chance to get introduced to the Clash. Its actually really cool to save that discovery for this stage of your life. It gets to be new to you.
There catalogue is one Hell of a rabit hole, and admittedly ... There are some songs that i kind of cant get down with, but when you find one that speaks to you, it stays with you.
Their lyrical approach was so cavalier and no fucks given. Honestly they said some stuff that probably should have freaked out the squares a lot more than the Sex Pistols.
Im about halfway rhrough your first video. Looking forward to hearing the rest of both. Will be sharing.
Oh man! I never noticed subterranean was like same tempo as last gang in town. One other interesting and kind of funny thing is "this town belongs to me" is literally the same song as a Skrewdriver song called "tomorrow belongs to us" 😂
Yeah I thought about 11th hour being really clash inspired too.
Oh... Unrelated... But you know the gaslight anthem song "ida called you woody Joe" off of sink or swim is like a love letter to the clash. Brian said It's about his first time hearing the clash and how his life changed.
Please share, that would be awesome! And I know that Gaslight song, but I can't think of it, I'll have to go back and listen to it. I'm having fun going through these songs, I'm going to make a Top 10 list soon, and then do it again in a year and see how much it changes
The Safe European Home outro is Ruby Soho
Dude! So glad you're into The Clash now. Welcome!!! I completely understand why their later stuff didn't hit you as a kid. At 14 or 15, when I first started getting into punk rock, I picked up a used cassette copy of The Story of The Clash because I heard there was more to them than the hits I knew. The first tape was all the radio stuff and I thought it was ok, but I didn't connect with The Clash until tape 2. That was what I was looking for and I was hooked by the time side A ended. Sorry you didn't go the compilation route when you started with them.
Love your work man. The Clash was one of my Dad's favourite bands when he was a kid then when I was a kid he introduced me to them after Rancid. I liked The Clash but they didn't grab me like other bands because they wasn't fast and shouty haha. Now I'm older and can actually understand what the songs are about and with more knowledge of the history of punk in general they connect on a much stronger level. Sorry for the essay I'm just so glad somebody is making videos talking in depth about my life long obsession. ❤
By the way, when you mentioned Tommy Gun and Out Come The Wolves it made me think of Listed MIA straight away.
Thank you so much, I appreciate the kind words! And yes, Listed MIA! That one for sure!
I know it's an off the cuff question but I'd be super intrigued by what you'd think of Strummer's Mescalaros albums,,,, considering all 3 were released on Hellcat and I believe Rancid was the backing band on 2 tracks for his last album of the 3 ('Streetcore' I believe, was the name of it----released posthumously RIP)
I haven't listened to them in years, and I didn't like them much back when i heard them, outside a couple of standout tracks. That being said, I will be revisiting them soon to see if my opinion changed
Really fun video 👊🏻 Took me a while to get into The Clash for similar reasons. It wasn’t a sound I was looking for at the time, but loving the US bombs made me get into the clash heavy because of how insane their influence was on them
Well the fact I've never heard Give Em Enough Rope is hilarious, it sounds like a Bombs record
@ don’t forget to check out Rancid’s cover of cheat. It’s great 👍
Maybe avenues and alleyways
Definitely A&A, for sure
Matt Freeman is the best and l Iove his band Devil's Brigade - a bit like Rancid with a Double Bass.... but Paul Simonon was only in his early 20s when he recorded the debut Clash album and you can search pictures of him with the root notes printed on the back of the neck of his bass guitar when playing live.. still effective bass playing though, considering how young he was at the time....
That's pretty awesome, actually
Give 'Em Enough Rope is the shit! Cheapskates is my favorite Clash song.
I'm flabbergasted by this album and how much i like it... lol 🤦
Just out of curiosity do you remember the year and what punk band or song you heard first
1995 Rancid - Time Bomb, then j saw them and the Ramones in 1996 (I was 14) and i was hooked!
1982 i was 9...
RAMONES...
We want the Airwaves..
@AtZero138 I was 13 pennywise unknown road
Coming from the other side of the coin (and the Atlantic), maybe I should give Rancid a listen sometime...
Wait, you've never heard Rancid? Well if you like the Clash, especially their first 2 albums, listen to Rancid. They're very good
Tim's voice sounds more like Shane McGowan without the accent. Check out Shane's work with the Nipple Erectors to really hear it
I've always thought his voice sounds like Shane's, but he doesn't sing like him. He songs like Strummer a bit. He's really got his own style now, by combining a few other styles and making them his own sound. Rancid also has their own sound, even though they got some of it from The Clash.
Tim Armstrong was good friends with Joe strummer and admits one of his favorite bands were the clash , you can definitely see the influence in Rancid’s music , also Tim signed Strummer to Hellcat records were he released one album I believe? 👍
Yeah i tried to get into that Mescalleros album, I just couldn't. I think he did a few albums under that name, possibly on Hellcat.
The Clash debut album is their masterpiece.
I very much prefer Give Em Enough Rope, but that could change, I guess.
Sorry you feel embarrassed man. So happy to have you on board. For me all good things stem from The Clash and I am really happy that you are now getting to experience them. The Clash epitomize what punk was, is and can be. You have a huge rabbit hole to dive into. I am excited that you are going to learn the meanings behind Joe Strummer's words. Listen to them carefully . Also sorry to disagree but The Clash had three front men as Paul Simonon, the bass player also sang.
“Something finally clicked.” Lol. I was late to The Clash too. Maybe around my mid 20’s I listened to more than just the “hits” and I was like damn ok, I kinda like this. I get it now. I honestly can’t say why I overlooked them for so long. But it was cool being a bit older and feeling like discovering punk all over again in a way. 🙂
That's exactly how I felt! It's crazy, lol. But to me it just matters that I got there, not necessarily when
@ For sure! Enjoy the feeling man!
Edit: I know this is about The Clash, but there’s an older band called The Scarred. They were on Punkcore for a while, kinda towards the end of the label. I absolutely love that band, and they are very very influenced by The Clash. Might be worth checking out.
You really should listen to the last song off of Give ‘Em Enough Rope called Young Punks.
I've listened to them entire album like 6 times in the last week, kinda love it
The Clash is part of the Punk Rock, Canon. Study it, and learn it well youg grashopper. As far as similarities with Rancid Tim Armstrong's voice is similar to Joe Strummers and the first 2 Rancid albums are similar in terms of song structure and subject matter to the first two Clash albums. The clash morphed from a punk band to a straight up New Wave band by the time they were on their third album. That's where the similarities pertty much end. The Clash had higher ambitions then just being trapped in what became the formulaic punk rock 2.0. It's cool that you finally discovered them because the vibe is awesome.
I'm glad you're enjoying this! I dont know that I'll ever get into their later stuff, as I've had it all multiple times and have only enjoyed their hits. Even those I'm not super into. I find it incredible that their biggest hit songs were off their "worst" albums
@@thepunkrockreview Yeah, the band is remembere for the New Wave radio freindly hits, which are all strong songs, but not at all 'punk' in their sound. The first two albums though are quite stellar and represent the best of british punk rock, second only to the pistols in my opinion.
The Damned were the 1st punk band to release a record in 77, the Sex Pistols, and the Clash followed a little later, but punk did officially start in 76 after half the audience in attendance started their own bands. The Clash were the 1st punk band i got into back in 1980. i'm old, LOL
Yeah it's an argument I don't usually take part in. I say The Ramones started it, but people will think what they think. It doesn't really matter to me, though, I don't care how I got here, I'm just glad I did
@@thepunkrockreview I agree Ramones unknowingly created what was later labeled “punk rock”. Seems some still think it began in the UK, regardless of both the Pistols and Joe Strummer citing them as inspirational. Like you said, people will think what they think.
@@ga121169the “punk started in the UK” myth has hung on for decades.
The Saints, Queensland Australia, formed in 1973
Sorry for all the comments, The Clash and Rancid are two of my favourite bands..... loved the video... and if I had started with Combat Rock and London Calling I would have been disillusioned too, let alone Sandinista the triple album genre fusion-fest ! but their early punk stuff really stands the test of time ... all best JT
Yeah man, I had the worst luck of all time w this band, lol. I was so stunned when I heard Give Em Enough Rope, it literally blew my mind!
In addition to how incredible they were, the Clash were probably more influential upon Rancid than any other band had been. The Clash were heavily influential upon hundreds of other punk rock bands worldwide as well. This is obvious to me, but hey. I can't knock it when people attempt to try and learn about just about anything, especially if it's where they came from. I don't know exactly what to make of some of the things that I'm hearing in this episode though, I must admit. You mention the Ramones in the beginning of it, and how you were into them already way back for example. Some months back you told both me, and also my buddy Dante that you did not like the Ramones and that you didn't consider them to be in any way relevant to punk rock, so naturally I found this to be a little bit strange. I also wanted to mention that punk rock bands throughout the years have notoriously pulled their influences from many places. What the song English Civil War by the Clash shares in common with many songs by the Dropkick Murphys for example is that they were both influenced to some extent by English, Scottish and Irish folk and marching band music.
I don't recall ever saying I wasn't a fan of The Ramones... please shoot me a DM of when and where I said that so I can either 1) explain something I meant or 2) i didn't say that.
I definitely said that about The Buzzcocks and The Clash. But if you've seen the video with Dante Ross, then you know exactly why I like what I like and how I got to these interests, etc, so none of this should be surprising. But yeah, I like what I like and a ton of this stuff is subjective and knowing/ understanding things is circumstantial bc it all depends on where you grew up and learned about it all, etc. As I've said many times, I was solo in all of this and lived in Houston, so the fact I even found punk rock was kind of unlikely to begin with. But yeah, make what you want out of the episode, I do the best I can with this stuff. But I don't think I've ever said I didn't like the Ramones or that they weren't innovative or whatever, I'm curious as to what makes you think I did... and if I did say something like that, I feel like maybe it is being taken out of context or I misspoke. Anyways.... yeah, I'm sorry if I'm not punk rock enough, lol...
@@thepunkrockreview Me and Dante have been friends since I was 13, so yeah. Of course I watched your interview with him. As for all of that stuff pertaining to the Ramones, that was during a back and forth session that you and I were having in your commenting section, and I remember it although not word for word. I will try and dig that up, and if it's still there than I'm sure that I will find it. I just wanted to ad that your closing statement above left me confused, since I don't go around telling anyone that they're not punk rock enough. Why would I? It simply wouldn't be worth my while to tell someone something like that because at the end of the day I honestly don't care. But you're choosing to apologize to me for something anyway. Well I accept your apology I guess, although to be perfectly honest I have no idea what it's for.
Rancids most Clash Inspired Album is Life Won’t Wait
The first two Clash albums are fantastic. Most people are into London Calling or Combat Rock but for me The Clash and Give Em Enough Rope are the best Clash albums. Tommy Gun is a cracking tune. Toppers drumming on this album is superb.
Yeah man, Give Em Enough Rope is a really good album. I hear so many bands I love all throughout that record
Guns of Brixton..
Is a song by The Clash?
Try listening to the riff on 'Capitol Radio' by the Clash......
I will absolutely do that, right now, actually....
@@thepunkrockreview Definite influence on '11th Hour' ....
Oh good he did listen to all the young punks!
Of course, you should see the unedited version of this on my Patreon, it's almost 2 hours, lol
Love both bands dearly for me I always wondered if Lars was as into the ruts much as he was the clash as seggs the bass player for the ruts was a session player for the uk subs around the time lars was in the band? the ruts always straddled that proto oi meets reggae/ska type sound, I always thought the clash, uk subs and the ruts were his jumping off points.
Never heard the Ruts until now, I'll be listening to them today and possibly making a video on them, too
The album style progression of The Clash was somewhat replicated by Rancid too. First two albums and ep's more raw punk. 3rd album more accesible. 4th album experimental. Rancid didnt do a Combat Rock album, instead reverted to raw album for 5th. And havent followed a course since.
Yeah inwas actually talking about that with a buddy of mine the other day. the fact that Tim is so similar to Joe, inherently, is likely a lot of the reason for those similarities. I doubt it was planned
The Clash - The Only Band That Matter!
1977 by Clash is very much 1998 by Rancid
Yeah i had never heard that one before. That's wild
Mick Jones sings on Stay Free not Joe Strummer ..... great song ... I get the Punk Beatles reference
I can't tell them apart yet...
If the record store guy gave you Sandinista you probably would have turned it into a frisbee.
100% facts, then some dog woulda caught me and and took off running
Duane named his son Clash.
Yeah i heard about that. The one he lost?
I wonder why Ramones style punk bands are called Ramonescore but Clash style bands aren't called Clashcore 🤔
Bc Ramones-core bands have a much more narrow, distinct sound, and they're intentionally sounding like the Ramones as much as they can.
The Clash had a much more broad sound, and I don't think bands intentionally start playing music to emulate them. Although bands like The Interrupters, The Last Gang, Left Alone, and Time Again are a derivative of The Clash, they sound more like Rancid than the Clash. It's kind of weird, actually
Where would we be without The Stooges?
Not sure, never been a huge fan of them. Probably the same sad situation as if there was never the Beatles, Chuck Berry, and even Elvis.
@thepunkrockreview so you've never heard "I wanna be your dog" from 1969?