Man, really good video. On point with everything. Thank you for taking the time to mention our channel on yours. All the channels you have mentioned I have watched as well and respect each and every business. This video is very helpful and has great breakdowns
I have had the Gemstone lights for years now. They are stunning and people are always commenting on how awesome they are. My wife was resistant at first now she uses them more than i do and always states how much she loves them. We had one warranty issue with the power injections and it was fixed in a couple days with not cost. The customer service at Gemstone is outstanding.
@anthonymorris4620 To hide the wires, I just used vinyl J-channel. I added photos and more details to the bottom of this blog post: handydad.tv/govee-permanent-outdoor-lights-pro-edition
Hey I did the same this past weekend! I live in an old Tudor so my trim and overhangs are a dark brown. The j channel was crazy cheap. It was easy to make repeatable cuts and it went up in no time.
I agree with your approach to use a (shared) spreadsheet to create your product scores. Then viewers can modify the weighting if some category (price, installation, etc) is more or less significant to them than to you. I chose Govee a couple months ago. Cost was an important criterion to me and all the professionally installed products were many times my budget. I too am not a fan of Govee's exposed wires but my soffits are a light color so that helps keep their white wires mostly hidden. Maybe someday there will be a commercial track that I can use to rehang them. Splicing around incontiguous sections was a bit of a hurdle but I succeeded in getting them installed without too much hassle. My wife has been an advocate from the start to add permanent holiday lights. We have one neighbor with Trimlight and that sold her on the idea. Many of my neighbors pay companies to install temporary holiday lights on their fascia and gutters. We've never been a big fan of those and their very limited color and pattern options. We used the new Govee lights during Halloween and many neighbors gave us positive comments. I have dimmable and automated recessed LED can lights in my soffits (both front and back) and have no intention of using the Govee LED strings for anything but holiday and special occasion lighting. Thanks for your video.
The pricing is misleading. Take Bright Home Lights vs Show Home Lights for instance. BHL is quoting the light strings only, while SHL is for a complete kit, including controller, tracks, cables, etc. For a similar kit from BHL, the pricing is $1425. OK, still cheaper, but not the dramatic difference listed in the video or on the spreadsheet.
I tried to use the least common denominator (strings only) as much as possible because that’s the variable cost. The controller is a one-time purchase. I’m also a fan of WLED so I wouldn’t want to buy a package anyway.
Very thorough and professional video presentation, best I've seen. Thank you. One small suggestion: add brightness (lumens) per light / per foot on your spreadsheet, if you can find that info from the manufacturer? Or better yet, measure it.
Relative brightness didn’t really matter to me. I think the look is more important. But a channel called The Hook Up did a great side by side comparison with brightness specs: ua-cam.com/video/DM-VhGarNgM/v-deo.html
I am heavily leaning toward the Govee lights, but I’ve heard some negative reviews about the 3M tape not sticking and the lack of customization if the home has multiple roof lines, because you can’t splice the lines without voiding warranty. How were the Govee Pros with regard to splicing and jumping lines?
In both cases, the 3M tape is just for convenience during installation so you can stick the light in place and use both hands to screw the clips in place. The clips are required, not optional. I can’t remember the last time I requested any kind of warranty claim. Things always seem to last through the warranty period. But if you’re not willing to take the risk with the original edition, the PROs definitely make splicing easier.
I also found same results when searching. Glad I watched it so I didn’t choose uninformed about other options. ( I’m going with Govee, on the fence between Version 1 and Pro)
Nice! My setup is actually custom built WLED/XLights, but uses Everlights strings as I was very impressed with their implementation and installation methods. One major flaw is that the addressable LEDs are only RGB, so no dedicated white, and I found that the manufacturer tolerances to be a bit disappointing. They replaced my strings that seemed to not match the rest but it’s annoying to have to do the manual labor necessary to unscrew and rescrew the lights with necessary soldering and weather proofing.
@@handydadtv Yeah I’d probably do it over again given how great the results look when done, and the potential you have with their patented approach, it’s just a cumbersome installation already, so best to do some color matching before you put them up. I tested my strings worked but never thought to make sure colors matched other strings. I assumed better.
@@handydadtv DIY in gutters and flashing pointed out. The strings are 9” spaced but I installed them on a 6” spacing to give a premium traditional appearance.
2133 sqft single story home I was quoted $6,748.80 from Trimlight and a similar "competitive" price at 5600 ish and for jellyfish lighting from another company around like $6,350 ish
@@handydadtv My spouse reading and watching videos, to how to setup permanent Christmas lights. Do you have a video , that explains it clearly ??? Thank you !!!!
I went with the twinkly lights a couple years ago hard to beat the dollar per foot for the 150’ string. Just wish they were more info about splicing and programming.
@@handydadtv not yet but that was the idea when I purchased. I get they’re not exactly intended for that but at the time the only other option was pixel strings.
@@handydadtv We have a Christmas Light coming out , next week, and they put the traditional lights on the house. I rather have lights , that you are explaining .
Bright Home lights looks like it has its own app. Can you use WLED instead or is it all the same? Still learning all the options. Thank you for putting this together.
Their app is a customized version of the WLED app, but it's still WLED at its core. Their app will work fine with any WLED controller (I tested that) so you can easily integrate their controller with other WLED controllers.
Love your video- thanks for all of the help! question- Can we install Govee on the bottom edge of our facia board or even facing out at the bottom edge? Is there a reason your spreadsheet says only “down” with Govee lights? We don’t love the shadow effects
Govee style of lights are too harsh to install facing out. They are intended to face down and the lenses are designed to cause those shadows. If you don’t like the shadows, don’t use that style of light. Check out my installation that I recently completed: ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
Thanks. Bright Home is too expensive for our budget. Any other recommendation for installing lights at the BOTTOM of our fascia? (bottom edge facing down).
Question…Hope there’s is an answer out there. I installed a 150ft Govee permanent light kit and needed to add 50ft so installed the 50ft at the end of the 150ft assuming it would have no issues. Well.. you know what they say when you assume. The new lights do not turn on? Does Govee have a female to male adaptor? I really don’t want to take down the 50 ft strand. If you happen to know an option that could avoid the uninstall I would be very appreciative. I have easy access to a power source at the end of the 50ft but not so much from where I plugged into the end of the 150ft install.
Thank you for the reply! I tried that a few times but I’m wondering if the Govee app is limited to only 9 segments? Still hoping there is a way to extend the lights but If that is the case and would have to add a power supply is it pretty easy to make the 2 different lights go in sync?
@handydadtv thank you for your amazing video link. I've watched nearly all of it...unfortunately, I'm dealing with spanish tiles with no overhang...this is beyond me... Now I need to find someone to do this for my boss..
Awesome video with intricate synthesis of all the options! This lighting is probably the wave of the future but all houses will then look pretty much the same because you're either dealing with the cone-shaped effect or the the strip effect. What I'd like to see are permanent lights that don't look this perfect because except for the style that produces a cone=shaped light on the house, the other lights are so perfect that they all somewhat look like a Broadway marquee, circa 1930. Also, what's with the word "trivial" replacing "easy" as to installation? Are you an AI generated voice because substitutions like that are typical of the latter and are somewhat incongruous within the normal evolution of the English language. It's also a little creepy.
LOL nothing in my content is AI, no matter how easy or trivial it may be to generate content these days. Call me old fashioned. I just installed permanent lights on my house and it was far from trivial to hide the wires. ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
@@handydadtv Hey, there! Thanks for the response. Your place looks fantastic and thanks for sharing that video. No "AI" eh? I dunno. It's gettin' pretty scary out there. How do I know your response is not "AI" generated? LOL! Seriously, I do not think you are old-fashioned at all about AI. Creating technology that is light years faster at thinking and more intelligent than humans? Nah...NOTHING will go wrong with THAT. It's like my fellow baby boomers never met the HAL 9000. Languages do evolve but I have to say that your unique word choice took this one time student of English by surprise. What also took me by surprise was your channel. I love it and am happy to subscribe and see more content. You must have a science or math or other background that honed a natural ability to generate statistical data! Best regards!
Man, really good video. On point with everything. Thank you for taking the time to mention our channel on yours. All the channels you have mentioned I have watched as well and respect each and every business. This video is very helpful and has great breakdowns
Dude you’re a beast with those Govee installations! I’ve watched every one of them.
@@handydadtv 🙏 we love helping our viewers have a successful DIY project. Thank you for your comment
I have had the Gemstone lights for years now. They are stunning and people are always commenting on how awesome they are. My wife was resistant at first now she uses them more than i do and always states how much she loves them. We had one warranty issue with the power injections and it was fixed in a couple days with not cost. The customer service at Gemstone is outstanding.
Thanks for the info. Glad you like them.
Thank you for doing this. Very useful and I agree with your scoring. Hard to argue with your metrics and overall analysis.
Thanks 😊
Excellent video! I went with Govee but covered the cables with channels. The pucks themselves are visible, but I don't mind how they look at all.
No, I don’t mind the pucks, just the wires. A little OCD I guess.
How did you conceal the wire? Any images of your channel?
@anthonymorris4620 To hide the wires, I just used vinyl J-channel. I added photos and more details to the bottom of this blog post: handydad.tv/govee-permanent-outdoor-lights-pro-edition
Hey I did the same this past weekend! I live in an old Tudor so my trim and overhangs are a dark brown. The j channel was crazy cheap. It was easy to make repeatable cuts and it went up in no time.
@@nickbailey202 Do you have any images of what it looks like?
I agree with your approach to use a (shared) spreadsheet to create your product scores. Then viewers can modify the weighting if some category (price, installation, etc) is more or less significant to them than to you. I chose Govee a couple months ago. Cost was an important criterion to me and all the professionally installed products were many times my budget. I too am not a fan of Govee's exposed wires but my soffits are a light color so that helps keep their white wires mostly hidden. Maybe someday there will be a commercial track that I can use to rehang them. Splicing around incontiguous sections was a bit of a hurdle but I succeeded in getting them installed without too much hassle. My wife has been an advocate from the start to add permanent holiday lights. We have one neighbor with Trimlight and that sold her on the idea. Many of my neighbors pay companies to install temporary holiday lights on their fascia and gutters. We've never been a big fan of those and their very limited color and pattern options. We used the new Govee lights during Halloween and many neighbors gave us positive comments. I have dimmable and automated recessed LED can lights in my soffits (both front and back) and have no intention of using the Govee LED strings for anything but holiday and special occasion lighting. Thanks for your video.
Thanks for the input. Hang onto that very special lady who advocated for your lights. She’s a keeper!
This was a superb review! Thanks for the great information! Big ups to Bright Home Lights on being your #1!
Thanks 😊
@@handydadtv 😉👍
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing your spreadsheet, too. It looks like that took lots of work.
Thanks. Be sure to watch this follow-up:
ua-cam.com/video/WjlweVd7MZc/v-deo.html
I love strips on houses under the soffit. Shinning down. I would love to send you a sample of my strips I use
Mine have the best of both worlds.
ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
The pricing is misleading. Take Bright Home Lights vs Show Home Lights for instance. BHL is quoting the light strings only, while SHL is for a complete kit, including controller, tracks, cables, etc. For a similar kit from BHL, the pricing is $1425. OK, still cheaper, but not the dramatic difference listed in the video or on the spreadsheet.
I tried to use the least common denominator (strings only) as much as possible because that’s the variable cost. The controller is a one-time purchase.
I’m also a fan of WLED so I wouldn’t want to buy a package anyway.
Very thorough and professional video presentation, best I've seen. Thank you.
One small suggestion: add brightness (lumens) per light / per foot on your spreadsheet, if you can find that info from the manufacturer? Or better yet, measure it.
Relative brightness didn’t really matter to me. I think the look is more important. But a channel called The Hook Up did a great side by side comparison with brightness specs: ua-cam.com/video/DM-VhGarNgM/v-deo.html
Great video, very helpful. Love the vendor grading and evaluation sheet. Saves me a lot of homework. Liked and subscribed.
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the family!
I am heavily leaning toward the Govee lights, but I’ve heard some negative reviews about the 3M tape not sticking and the lack of customization if the home has multiple roof lines, because you can’t splice the lines without voiding warranty. How were the Govee Pros with regard to splicing and jumping lines?
In both cases, the 3M tape is just for convenience during installation so you can stick the light in place and use both hands to screw the clips in place. The clips are required, not optional.
I can’t remember the last time I requested any kind of warranty claim. Things always seem to last through the warranty period.
But if you’re not willing to take the risk with the original edition, the PROs definitely make splicing easier.
I also found same results when searching. Glad I watched it so I didn’t choose uninformed about other options. ( I’m going with Govee, on the fence between Version 1 and Pro)
I like the Govee look. It’s just the wires…
Awesome! Thank you
My pleasure!
Very helpful video. Thanks for putting it together
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
Check this out: How to install Permanent Holiday Lighting (Bright Home Lights)
ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
Awesome job, thank you! but what about comparing brightness?
The Hook Up channel just did a great on-house comparison. Not all the same lights as my list but it will give you a good idea of relative brightness.
Nice! My setup is actually custom built WLED/XLights, but uses Everlights strings as I was very impressed with their implementation and installation methods. One major flaw is that the addressable LEDs are only RGB, so no dedicated white, and I found that the manufacturer tolerances to be a bit disappointing. They replaced my strings that seemed to not match the rest but it’s annoying to have to do the manual labor necessary to unscrew and rescrew the lights with necessary soldering and weather proofing.
Oh wow. That is definitely disappointing to hear of such poor quality assurance for $10/foot!
@@handydadtv Yeah I’d probably do it over again given how great the results look when done, and the potential you have with their patented approach, it’s just a cumbersome installation already, so best to do some color matching before you put them up. I tested my strings worked but never thought to make sure colors matched other strings. I assumed better.
You did a DIY install? Pointing out or down? Did you put them in the gutter?
@@handydadtv
DIY in gutters and flashing pointed out. The strings are 9” spaced but I installed them on a 6” spacing to give a premium traditional appearance.
@@handydadtv I uploaded a video just now to demo the appearance of the lights on my house if you care to see.
2133 sqft single story home I was quoted $6,748.80 from Trimlight and a similar "competitive" price at 5600 ish and for jellyfish lighting from another company around like $6,350 ish
What did you decide to do?
@@handydadtv My spouse reading and watching videos, to how to setup permanent Christmas lights.
Do you have a video , that explains it clearly ??? Thank you !!!!
@debbiec6216 This guy does great tutorials for Govee lights: youtube.com/@jbsdiytv
Love the video! Thanks for all the research!
Thanks 😊 Be sure to watch my installation: ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
I went with the twinkly lights a couple years ago hard to beat the dollar per foot for the 150’ string. Just wish they were more info about splicing and programming.
Thanks for all the great info!!
Are they permanently installed?
@@handydadtv not yet but that was the idea when I purchased. I get they’re not exactly intended for that but at the time the only other option was pixel strings.
Excellent job and thank you, very informative!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
@@handydadtv We have a Christmas Light coming out , next week, and they put the traditional lights on the house.
I rather have lights , that you are explaining .
I’m a installer I do c9 led Christmas lights how can I get into installing these lights thanks for the help great video
Contact Charles at connect@brighthomelights.com. Tell him I sent you. 😉
Bright Home lights looks like it has its own app. Can you use WLED instead or is it all the same? Still learning all the options. Thank you for putting this together.
Their app is a customized version of the WLED app, but it's still WLED at its core. Their app will work fine with any WLED controller (I tested that) so you can easily integrate their controller with other WLED controllers.
You should do an update on this topic since it's a much more competitive market now
There are far too many copycat brands of peel-n-stick lights so I might consider removing them altogether. What would you suggest I add?
Oelo now comes with trim options so that it blends in better. @11:04 I would revise the spread sheet with updated details.
Thanks for the info
But it’s still the most expensive option.
Love your video- thanks for all of the help! question- Can we install Govee on the bottom edge of our facia board or even facing out at the bottom edge? Is there a reason your spreadsheet says only “down” with Govee lights? We don’t love the shadow effects
Govee style of lights are too harsh to install facing out. They are intended to face down and the lenses are designed to cause those shadows.
If you don’t like the shadows, don’t use that style of light. Check out my installation that I recently completed: ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
Thanks. Bright Home is too expensive for our budget. Any other recommendation for installing lights at the BOTTOM of our fascia? (bottom edge facing down).
@dianekaline You can still do Govee but attach them to the facia pointing down.
Thanks!
Is it ever possible to have certain strings (like the one over the garage) to turn on while others stay off?
Most can do that.
Have you researched Minleon? They seem to be a good combination of quality and price.
How can you tell? Their website is awful. It includes no pricing and no gallery of residential installations.
What about the RGB C9 Wled you used last year? Do you still recommend it?
They’re awesome for temporary use as long as you’re aware of the limitations.
WATCH BEFORE BUYING C9 RGB LEDs
ua-cam.com/video/kqJZtNKftXk/v-deo.html
Question…Hope there’s is an answer out there. I installed a 150ft Govee permanent light kit and needed to add 50ft so installed the 50ft at the end of the 150ft assuming it would have no issues. Well.. you know what they say when you assume. The new lights do not turn on? Does Govee have a female to male adaptor? I really don’t want to take down the 50 ft strand. If you happen to know an option that could avoid the uninstall I would be very appreciative. I have easy access to a power source at the end of the 50ft but not so much from where I plugged into the end of the 150ft install.
Try holding the power button for 5 seconds to reset the length.
Thank you for the reply! I tried that a few times but I’m wondering if the Govee app is limited to only 9 segments? Still hoping there is a way to extend the lights but If that is the case and would have to add a power supply is it pretty easy to make the 2 different lights go in sync?
@CW-eg7wd Ah yes. The original edition is limited to 150 feet per controller.
Gemstone will be about $30-40 ft installed depending on installer. I’m becoming one of their reps now
Thanks. What made you pick Gemstone?
How did gemstone rank?
I only evaluated DIY options.
How do gemstone lights compare?
They look just like mine with half as many lights but cost at least twice as much. ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
How do you run power to them?
How to install Permanent Holiday Lighting (Bright Home Lights)
ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
Do the Show Home come with a power supply?
You can buy their kit that includes everything, or you can buy just the lights and use your own controller.
Bright Home Lights Review
ua-cam.com/video/WjlweVd7MZc/v-deo.html
I appreciate you!
Aww Thanks 😊
This might be useful: How to install Permanent Holiday Lighting
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And I appreciate you too 🙌🏻
@handydadtv thank you for your amazing video link. I've watched nearly all of it...unfortunately, I'm dealing with spanish tiles with no overhang...this is beyond me... Now I need to find someone to do this for my boss..
Great video
Thanks 😊
What about jellyfish lighting?
It’s on the list but it’s not DIY and will probably cost you upwards of $5,000.
Error 404 on the link for the spreadsheet.
Hmmm. It's working for me. Try this: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t2clhSrQwku5KS8-xqSIiVlHT8CFUNcA5vfLkITsthA/edit?usp=sharing
working now btw
Might just been a delay with it saving changes or something
Awesome video with intricate synthesis of all the options! This lighting is probably the wave of the future but all houses will then look pretty much the same because you're either dealing with the cone-shaped effect or the the strip effect. What I'd like to see are permanent lights that don't look this perfect because except for the style that produces a cone=shaped light on the house, the other lights are so perfect that they all somewhat look like a Broadway marquee, circa 1930. Also, what's with the word "trivial" replacing "easy" as to installation? Are you an AI generated voice because substitutions like that are typical of the latter and are somewhat incongruous within the normal evolution of the English language. It's also a little creepy.
LOL nothing in my content is AI, no matter how easy or trivial it may be to generate content these days. Call me old fashioned.
I just installed permanent lights on my house and it was far from trivial to hide the wires. ua-cam.com/video/ogfrC78DQyg/v-deo.html
@@handydadtv Hey, there! Thanks for the response. Your place looks fantastic and thanks for sharing that video. No "AI" eh? I dunno. It's gettin' pretty scary out there. How do I know your response is not "AI" generated? LOL!
Seriously, I do not think you are old-fashioned at all about AI. Creating technology that is light years faster at thinking and more intelligent than humans? Nah...NOTHING will go wrong with THAT. It's like my fellow baby boomers never met the HAL 9000.
Languages do evolve but I have to say that your unique word choice took this one time student of English by surprise. What also took me by surprise was your channel. I love it and am happy to subscribe and see more content. You must have a science or math or other background that honed a natural ability to generate statistical data!
Best regards!
Where is BrightHomeLights headquartered from?
Texas
Spreadsheet link doesn't work
Try docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t2clhSrQwku5KS8-xqSIiVlHT8CFUNcA5vfLkITsthA/edit?usp=sharing
Bright home lights have the best setup I think
Bright Home Lights Review
ua-cam.com/video/WjlweVd7MZc/v-deo.html
I don't agree with 1 LEDs/light for Govee Pro. It has 5 LEDs I believe?
It has 3 warm white and 3 cool white, but only 1 RGB chip. I didn’t count the white LEDs on any of them.
@@handydadtv shouldn't separate Warm White be a consideration then at least?
@RushPL1 Good point. It should be a separate column.
Pro user here still waiting on extension kits c'mon govee haha.
People are getting over $100 per string on eBay.
Hmm @@handydadtv
$350 for 25 feet? Realy? $10 per light? Your business will die.
They’re having no trouble selling those $10 lights.