My Honest Take On Jordan Peterson's Eye-Opening Interview With Zeena Schreck

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  • @the.sorceress.scheherazade
    @the.sorceress.scheherazade 3 місяці тому +6

    Just wanted to leave a comment of appreciation. I recently found your channel, like less than a month ago, and I'm working my way through your earlier videos. What a gold mine of information. You've answered many questions I've had for years. Thank you xx

  • @ordermind
    @ordermind 3 місяці тому +9

    "Having a sword but keeping it sheathed", something like that is how Jordan Peterson explained the original Greek meaning of the word "meek" in the statement "The meek shall inherit the Earth" which is found in the Bible. I'm glad you picked up on it, I was surprised that Jordan didn't mention it himself during the interview.

  • @anaestrada66
    @anaestrada66 3 місяці тому +9

    Love your take on things. Very sane and studied. Glad I found your channel.

  • @CleverChimney
    @CleverChimney 2 місяці тому +9

    I don’t like Jordan Peterson either. Zeena’s childhood was one of a victim of narcissistic parents which ruins your life and gives you CPTSD. I feel for her. The only evil entity there were the narcissists. I hope she’s found peace.

  • @sharonfreedman8595
    @sharonfreedman8595 3 місяці тому +5

    Thank you for your knowledge and wisdom - If good can't defend itself then good will be overcome by evil...

  • @parkerault2607
    @parkerault2607 3 місяці тому +5

    I had a friend who said "you show me a satanist and I'll show you a confused christian."

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому

      I once heard that Satanists are just Atheists doing dinner theater.

  • @tmountain1
    @tmountain1 3 місяці тому +16

    I thought LaVeyan Satanism would be an interesting thing to learn about until I heard his quote that his brand of Satanism is based on Ayn Rand. Of all the negative descriptions that could be lobbed at a Satanist, "tedious, boring, unintentionally funny" was not on my bingo card.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому

      There were persistent rumors over the year, that "Uncle Anton" was an Israeli intelligence asset. Funny how Ayn Rand (real name Alisa Rosenblum) hated collectivism, racism, and socialism. Yet, had zero problems with her fellow tribesman in a certain country in the Middle East the size of New Jersey.

  • @HillbillyYEEHAA
    @HillbillyYEEHAA 3 місяці тому +11

    I feel bad for her about her childhood. She was robbed of it.

  • @rosesrabbitsandravens4350
    @rosesrabbitsandravens4350 3 місяці тому +2

    So good, as always! Thank you! Informative and educational. So cool that Buddhism was chosen as the higher ground!

  • @rundbaum
    @rundbaum 3 місяці тому +2

    your 'commentors' are so eloquent really learning a lot just thru reading comments. zeena has not spoken internationally on the internet in years so this JBP broadcast was unexpected. i completely was not surprised he interviewed zeena as i've always had the feeling there was something more going on w/JBP than meets the eye. one only needs to hear his tongue. as to the zeena interview, she has added to her narrative of how exactly she pivoted to buddhism & found a different take on 'spirituality,' which i had not heard her voice yet. i thought it was interesting. she was determined, delail-oriented in this interview; there's always a sense of URGENCY to the way zeena speaks which is one thing i love about her. she showed all these things in her interview. i downloaded her Queensland College dissertation years ago to my hard drive b/c she at one point in time had these public on her website. one of the best pieces of writing i own. there is a Praeternatuality to zeena & she is a wonderful voice of individualism & authenticity in the current age of the internet . . .

  • @larrys9497
    @larrys9497 3 місяці тому +2

    I wasn't the least bit surprised to hear JP read Lavay and Crowley. He was about to defend the value of Eliphas Levi in a talk with Sam Harris, but Harris changed the topic before he could. I wouldn't be surprised if he has read through grimoires or looked into ceremonial magick.

  • @cecehectori9579
    @cecehectori9579 3 місяці тому

    I love your videos, they are a great experience. Thanks!

  • @aron666x
    @aron666x 3 місяці тому +1

    Great summery and review

  • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
    @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

    I grew up as an angst-ridden suburban youth, so of course I was a fan of The Schrecks, Boyd Rice, A. Wyatt Man, and Adam Parfrey (founder of Feral House Books). What surprised me the most in this interview, was that Zeena was essentially working for free, with the exception of the one time payment of $75.
    Frankly, I was a little disappointed she didn't go into more detail about the 8/8/88 Rally--where the above mentioned names ritualistically "k(1)liked the 1960s. This period of time (late 80s-1994) was a unique time. For lack of a better term, this scene could be described as "reactionary", but with crazy getups (goth, heavy metal, and hints of fascist iconography). The two wrestling "heels" were the Religious Right (the fundie low church Protestants) and political liberals of the 60s (specifically hippies).

  • @7auren77
    @7auren77 3 місяці тому

    Excited for this one! It was an interesting interview.

  • @Heiscomingbacksoon7
    @Heiscomingbacksoon7 3 місяці тому

    Thank you❤your voice and intelligence, are a great match. I love your channel💜🌹

  • @liber_mundi
    @liber_mundi Місяць тому

    The point of "compassion is the vice of kings" is to always keep in mind that suffering is a way of turning someone into theyr best version. The whole point of the Book of The Law is to be guided by Love.
    Besides, the sentence was spoken by an Egyptian war God, of course he dislikes compassion.

  • @harryevans1786
    @harryevans1786 2 місяці тому +1

    I had an incling that Peterstone studied Crowley after his interview with Stephen Fry and that start talking about Nietzsche and let's have it right if you take Nietzsche away from Crowley there is not a lot there. Lol

  • @RobertHalvarsson
    @RobertHalvarsson 3 місяці тому +5

    One thing about these satanisms are that they really tend to go down a very egocentrical path, in your own words, it seems to be based on: "a flagrant disregard of other people". There can more mature forms of hedonism, such as the philosophy of Epicurus and a moderate appreciation of sensual life, which I do believe should be viewed as an idea of how to be responsible and life a secular life in which the goal is to combine an appreciation of human nature with growth of classic virtues. Satanism on the other hand really appear from the outside as a twisted and destructive shadow of monotheism. Such destrucive ideologies doesn't seem to be helpful at all.

  • @jeffreybarton1297
    @jeffreybarton1297 3 місяці тому

    Your analysis of the interview was very useful, bringing out meanings that my Monkey mind missed.

  • @ken.adhitya
    @ken.adhitya 2 місяці тому +2

    25:48 lol cought me off guard 😂

  • @emptystring4530
    @emptystring4530 3 місяці тому +5

    I didnt hear it whole, but I didnt get an impression they are talking about occult. They even said Vey was an anti occultist. according to some other stories that is not true.

    • @jewelsbypodcasterganesh
      @jewelsbypodcasterganesh 3 місяці тому +7

      LaVey was a materialist atheist. He didn't truly believe in a spiritual world.

    • @emptystring4530
      @emptystring4530 3 місяці тому

      In particular, I mean statements of these people ua-cam.com/video/RTb9ID6oRA4/v-deo.html

  • @c-LAW
    @c-LAW 3 місяці тому +1

    2:59 "She has found that peace..." Having watched the interview, doesn't seem so to me.

    • @silverwater211
      @silverwater211 2 місяці тому

      Her face expresses a profound sadness.

  • @EnostheChimp92
    @EnostheChimp92 3 місяці тому +1

    @liftingthelamp. Can Experienced Spiritual practitioners and enlightened folks tell when others are on the path? Can you see something different in people that have their hearts and minds open? Or is it that people progressed deeply in spirituality just emanate good vibes and to the correct people their knowledge and symbolism means more. I’m really going through it right now and a man was on the side of the road and idk if he heard me swear or could tell my discomfort but he waited until I turned around after he waved the first time and then formed the infinity symbol in a way that was smooth and flowing. Like he was telling me it’s okay, find balance and ride the balance. Idk. I can interpret it a couple ways, but to me it did mean more and was comforting to me.

  • @ginasmith1665
    @ginasmith1665 3 місяці тому +10

    What a shame it was Jordan Peterson doing the interviewing.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm not a Jordan Peterson fanboy, but I thought he did a decent job. She could have picked worse.

  • @SalvoColli
    @SalvoColli 2 місяці тому +2

    Read Evola, not Lavey. 😎

  • @llhpark
    @llhpark 3 місяці тому

    Conspicuously absent, from what portion of the interview I managed to direct my attention to, any mention of the pastor and his family who took her in as she broke away from the pack. It's a blockbuster movie somewhere, out there, in the file cabinets of missed opportunities.
    There was a visceral deception about her that I couldn't shake. Perhaps it was the kingdom, class, phylum approach to distinction, where words fell like pieces, in Tetris, where their descent to the bottom might vanish, having filled a solid line.
    I hope she keeps track of pivotal breadcrumbs, the continuity of past, the threads connected to present, the full acceptance that truth, above all things, is inevitable.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      I've followed the Schreck's for a while, and have never heard about a pastor that took her in. At some point, she was affiliated with Michael Aquino and the Temple of Set. Aquino is a rather interesting sort. He has an army intelligence background, specializing in psychological operations.

    • @llhpark
      @llhpark 2 місяці тому

      @@RobotClean138-lx1bo I'll try to find you the link.. the pastor tells a convincing story that is articulate as it is comprehensive.. nearly three hours..

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому

      @IIhpark
      Dare I say the only people more prone to embellishment than (some) occultists, are the low church Protestant sorts. Both Beggin' Bob Larson and Bill Schnoebelen are perfect examples. I don't know how old you are, but I lived through the Great Satanic Panic. There's a whole cottage industry about these sorts, "Defeating the Devil!". I have not seen or heard of any evidence of this Pastor helping Zeena, so color me cynical.

  • @GR-dl3eq
    @GR-dl3eq 3 місяці тому +35

    It seems that your disagreement with Peterson on political matters stems from your continued belief in government and a statist mindset. The very term "government" hints at its underlying purpose: derived from the Latin "gubernare mente," meaning "to govern the mind" or "mind control." For those who wish to truly understand the ideology behind such control, I recommend exploring the works of Mark Passio. Government, at its core, operates through moral relativism-one of the pillars of Satanism-which stands in direct opposition to Natural Law. To live a free and fulfilling life, it's essential to align with Natural Law, rather than adhering to systems that contravene it.

    • @33-vertebrae
      @33-vertebrae 3 місяці тому +8

      Everyone operates through moral relativism, regardless of belief system.

    • @larrys9497
      @larrys9497 3 місяці тому +2

      @@33-vertebrae I disagree

    • @belligirl21
      @belligirl21 3 місяці тому

      You just served up a heap of word salad when all you’re really trying to say is that you prefer chaos. Which is Satanic and dysfunctional.

    • @IvanSpaziano-ko5cv
      @IvanSpaziano-ko5cv 3 місяці тому

      There's no natural law, affirm it is a violence without sense, like Aristotele have do it in his ethics to Nichomedian. Promotes and living certain values is a thing, pretend without evidence that those are the unique universal truth, is just a political game.

    • @IvanSpaziano-ko5cv
      @IvanSpaziano-ko5cv 3 місяці тому +2

      Natural law? Politics..

  • @gianpaulgraziosi6171
    @gianpaulgraziosi6171 Місяць тому

    31:16 A negative times a negative equals a positive.

  • @teresa6714
    @teresa6714 4 дні тому

    I know very little about the Church of Satan however what I have come across doesn't seem to align to what you or others are saying .

  • @stalker9530
    @stalker9530 3 місяці тому +1

    First of all the interview was not eye-opening at all so I don’t even need to watch the rest of your video, mainly Zeena talking about mundane stuff and personal life stories which are not eye-opening at all…

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      @stalker-When I think of the audience that would be interested in listening to Zeena Schreck, I see two primary demographics. The first being clueless boomer conservatives (especially the Evangicuck sorts). As for the second group, it would be largely Gen-Xers that remember her from her media appearance in the 80s/90s. Especially her time being interviewed by Beggin' Bob Larson. I had hoped she'd discuss the 8/8/88 Rally, Boyd Rice and company, and her ex-husband.

  • @collegesynewave
    @collegesynewave 3 місяці тому

    Zeena has a presence to her ,the same kind of presence I've observed in Ramirez.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому

      Have you ever heard an interview with her ex, Nikolas Schreck (or as Boyd Rice calls Barry Dubin)?

    • @collegesynewave
      @collegesynewave 2 місяці тому

      @@RobotClean138-lx1bo No, will check ty.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@collegesynewave Back in the late 80s-mid 90s, Nikolas Schreck could best be described as an "Edge Lord". He was a guest on Beggin' Bob Larson's radio program, as well as a megachurch "showdown" both Zeena and Nikolas participated in.

    • @collegesynewave
      @collegesynewave 2 місяці тому

      @@RobotClean138-lx1bo Currently watching a Nicholas interview re Ramirez interactions

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@collegesynewave I've heard one of his interviews about Richard Ramirez. Personally, I think his material on Manson is really good. Schreck was ahead of his time when it came to Manson. It was never "Helter-Skelter" but all about drugs/money. Tex Watson was the real culprit, not Charlie.

  • @jewelsbypodcasterganesh
    @jewelsbypodcasterganesh 3 місяці тому +5

    "Jordan Peterson" and "Satanism", get ready for the most viewed video on your channel.

  • @christinerivera2860
    @christinerivera2860 3 місяці тому +1

    First! ✌🏼

  • @goose33
    @goose33 2 місяці тому

    Taylor swift

  • @kafesociety1759
    @kafesociety1759 День тому

    Oh sweet Jesus, GET TO THE POINT already! Bailing… 🙄

  • @TheCyberbot
    @TheCyberbot 9 днів тому

    what a slow boring life...should have listened to the birds singing more

  • @Silenthillontheinside
    @Silenthillontheinside 2 місяці тому

    min 28:41 La feminidad y la inteligencia.

  • @costazurra
    @costazurra 3 місяці тому

    God have pover to give and take built and destroy

  • @NfindaMalongo
    @NfindaMalongo 3 місяці тому +2

    Wild to claim lavey invented Satanism but unless your a theistic Satanist your just a lifestyler

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      @NfindaMalongo
      Lifestyler? You mean like swinging, as in to swing? Sorry for the needless Raising Arizona reference, I couldn't help myself.

  • @rooboatdeer22yu51
    @rooboatdeer22yu51 3 місяці тому +1

    gosh I really dislike Jordan, He wrote a children's book about child abuse and he just boils my blood that he's a professional , caring for others. I don't think he's a real healing influence in the world. yeah we are allowed to express whatever but do those words have good out come no. He has once said he gave more to the therapeutic community more than one of the most famous psychologists. I don't think someone with that un-clearness should be caring for others minds but then again people will go anywhere else that is not god/goodness/love. it's not surprising to me that he has read satanist works or Crowley or Machiavellian works.

    • @FrostedSeagull
      @FrostedSeagull 3 місяці тому

      Aleister Crowley, up until his severe heroin addiction, wrote brilliantly on Spiritual Matters.
      Remember, Crowley spoke to the Head of the White Lodge, Kunat Sumara.
      Kunat Sumara is the powerful Arch-angel that heads the White Lodge.
      It is the White Lodge who charged Jesus with fulfilling the Words of the Hebew Prophets.
      Crowley's Tell Tale Failure
      The White Lodge advised Aleister Crowley to completely eradicate his Egos.
      This procedure takes years. It took both John the Baptist and Jesus over a decade to annihilate ALL Egos.
      Example - When Jesus walks into the desert to completely remove all
      Egos. This is where the three major temptations by the
      powerful Arch-demon Andra-Malek tempts Jesus.
      Keep in mind, the Arch-demons could only tempt Jesus, the non-God component of Divine. That's why the Christ within Jesus says:
      Get Thee Behind me Satan
      Jesus would not curse Satan as he was necessary part of him.
      You have the Christ without the Luciferic flame tempting the human vehicle. When Jesus overcome the many temptations, not just the big three, he turned the flame of Lucifer into Astral Fire OR . . .
      the fire of the Holy Spirit!
      Rooboatdeer22,
      The rest of your observations are relevant.
      Jordan Peterson, spiritually, is a failure.
      WHY - the fact on he hangs onto his observations as a psychologist as opposed to an Awakened Consciousness.
      Jordan P is the living embodiment ofJesus asking the rich man to sell off everything he owns and to follow him. This rich man was shocked and stunned as he immediately realised his spiritual dilemma. He loved his wealth even though he followed the Commandments, treated his subjects well and was giving alms to the Poor.
      Jordan Peterson like the aggrieved Rich Man, cannot drop his ego laden position of a Psychologist, to accept his Christic Essence and follow the path of the Lord.
      Like Crowley, Peterson wants to have his cake and eat it.

    • @tewtravelers9586
      @tewtravelers9586 3 місяці тому +2

      He’s the ultimate example of a fragile narcissist. Absolutely unbearable. I started with this video on this channel to see if I’d bother watching any of the others. Anyone who sees Peterson as a force for good gets no respect from me. Easy litmus test.

  • @dontbeobsessive
    @dontbeobsessive 3 місяці тому +9

    I pray to Jesus Christ and Arch Angel Michael that the young man in the video wakes up from his occult delusions and realises that Jesus is the one true God of his soul and will give him the inner peace he craves Amen.

    • @33-vertebrae
      @33-vertebrae 3 місяці тому

      Ya'll are the most annoying and invasive people on the planet. Even Muslims don't go around pushing their religion as much as you people. Go to your OWN spaces and leave others to discuss what they want free of solicitation.

    • @SIMUL4CR4
      @SIMUL4CR4 3 місяці тому +4

      Focus on your own Awakening. Charity starts at home, God helps those who help themselves.

    • @dontbeobsessive
      @dontbeobsessive 3 місяці тому

      @@SIMUL4CR4 I practiced witchcraft longer than you've been alive! Warning people about the evil spirits behind these practices is more valuable than gold.

    • @sweaterweather8789
      @sweaterweather8789 3 місяці тому

      ⁠@@dontbeobsessiveDo spirits REALLY actually exist? Is magic real? I’m truly curious. No disrespect to anyone.

    • @larrys9497
      @larrys9497 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sweaterweather8789 I would say yes based on my experiences.

  • @SK-XIIX
    @SK-XIIX 3 місяці тому +13

    It might also be edifying for you to examine where Zeena's life has lead her. Her marriage to the chameleon-charlatan Nikolas Shreck seems to be a case of her replacing her father with someone of similarly excessive egoism, obvious loathsome narcissism, looseness of ethics and fluidity of conscience. This elasticity of morality might be economically convenient for the doer, but is far less so for those exploited in the process; ask any of those who paid for but never received Shreck's latest (some say plagiaristic) effort, his literary self-proclaimed "magnum-opus" on Charles Manson, an enormous, largely-sourceless, mostly fictional tome masquerading as 'absolute fact'.
    It seems Zeena is still very much entrenched in a scene that essentially replicates the unethical nonsense promulgated by her father. The misinterpretation of Liber Al (III. 43: "𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘱𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴: 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘮𝘱 𝘥𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘤𝘩𝘦𝘥 & 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘢𝘬: 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘸 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘰𝘯𝘨: 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘭𝘢𝘸 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘫𝘰𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘭𝘥" seems to resonate loud and clear in the cases of both Anton Szandor LaVey and Nikolas Shreck, with Zeena seemingly merely paying lip-service to the more benevolent idea of compassion and conscience whilst actually going along with the contradictory self-serving doctrines of 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩 her father and husband.
    • Her "revenge" ritual against her father is an indication of how a fascination with Svengali figures, in her case her father and her husband, tends to corrupt one's moral compass.

    • @NetBSDToaster-u8e
      @NetBSDToaster-u8e 3 місяці тому +4

      I agree 100%.

    • @larrys9497
      @larrys9497 3 місяці тому +2

      Nicholas Shreck seemed like a far bigger monster to me than Anton. If he has turned away from that with Zeena, great.

    • @SK-XIIX
      @SK-XIIX 3 місяці тому +1

      @@larrys9497… "if" being the operative.

    • @RobotClean138-lx1bo
      @RobotClean138-lx1bo 2 місяці тому +1

      @SK-- Nikolas Schreck (or as Boyd Rice calls him Barry Dubin) made Charles Manson: Superstar back in the late 80s. It seems like Charlie had been a gravy train for ol' Barry. Listening to Zeena, took me back to hearing her on Beggin' Bob Larson's old radio program (Talk Back with Bob Larson). After listening to this interview, it dawned on me just how damaged she is.

    • @SK-XIIX
      @SK-XIIX 2 місяці тому

      @@RobotClean138-lx1bo It's hard to see what's left of her own 'original nature' and 'personal will', behind what feels like highly- scripted, "programmed" rhetoric and deep psychological conditioning. The exploitative manipulation she's been through would be hard for anyone to overcome: with the two primary male figures in her life being expert at this it would be a daunting if not impossible ordeal for her to transcend.